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RECAP: Warriors 120, Efes Pilsen 66


The 2nd half started as a blowout...

How much can the Golden State Warriors and their fans learn from a preseason game against a team that many college teams would be able to beat? Quite a bit. Coach Don Nelson tried a bunch of different combinations. Ike Diogu and Troy Murphy, Monta Ellis and Dajuan Wagner, Baron Davis and Monta, Mike Dunleavy and Andirs Biedrins. You could tell he was experimenting and trying to find a unit that seemed to gel together. Overall, the Warriors played very well. The Turkish team was clearly no match, but their fans were the loudest in the building the whole time, even when they were down by 50.



High 5

1) Monta Ellis is still a baller
I felt he was the best player out there. He was electric tonight. Everything that we saw at the end of last year, he brought it out this year. And it's only the first game of the preseason. He didn't look rusty from his long layoff after the injury in the summer league nor did it seem to affect his game. He was quick as usual, able to drive the lane and hit jumpers. His defense was also superb as he stayed in front of his man and managed to get his hands on some passes. Just like Monty last year, Nelson is going to have a real hard time keeping Monta out of the game.

2) Biedrins is going to be valuable
He could really turn into a backup center possibly earning 25 minutes a night. He's not a Nelson player, but Nellie has to love his hustle. This is not the same player we saw last year. He still has the nonstop motor but his game looked more refined and patient. On offense, he's always around the basket either anticipating a dish from the penetrating guard or cleaning up the garbage. Once he does get the ball, he's become more patient and doesn't hurry himself. He seemed to collect himself tonight, survey the D, and then either take one hard dribble or just go straight up. He's got real soft hands too as he seemed to catch most everything that was thrown his way. He even ran a sweet pick and roll with Dunleavy about 15 feet out, where Dunleavy gave him a nice bounce pass resulting in a Biedrins bucket. On defense he also seemed to play under control better. Even though he picked up a couple fouls he still grabbed some boards, changed shots, and overall did a nice defensive job.

3) Dajuan Wagner got skillz
Sure that's not surprising but this is the first time he's done it for real in a Warriors uniform. He's got this nice floater in traffic to get over the big guys. Also, he's got the quickness to get to the bucket and the strength to finish. I'm sure it felt great for him to do well in his first game back.

4) Dunleavy, the point forward
Dunleavy played well tonight but a lot of guys did. What was key for him was to show that he can play the point and run the offense. I think he did a good job tonight. With Baron on the floor at the same time and Dunleavy initiating the offense, they had Baron post up the smaller guards. This worked great tonight as Baron was able to overpower the other guards and also use his quickness to get inside. He made some nice passes and basically ran the offense well in combination with either Baron, Monta or Dajuan. It's going to be an interesting combination if the three scorers and initiators, Baron, Monta, and Dajuan, are freed up from ball handling duties to fly around on offense curling around picks and moving without the ball.

5) It's a whole different ballgame
This is the type of team I want to see play. On offense, instead of people camping out on the 3 point line, a lot of guys were able to penetrate and create offense for others. Not only were the players, Murphy included, able to drive the lane, but the teammates were no longer standing around on the perimeter. They were cutting to the open spots (Baron to Dunleavy early in the game). Teammates were looking to get open or rotate the ball to keep the offense in motion. The offense never really felt stagnant like it did on Monday night at the open practice.

On defense the team showed a lot of heart. They were getting in the passing lanes, trying to create turnovers for easy transition buckets. They caused a lot of problems for the Turkish team. You could see the desire that was missing from last year especially in the man to man defense. I only remember seeing the zone defense used occasionally in the 1st quarter. The one sequence I remember was Dunleavy was guarding someone in the post. Baron doubled down and you could hear him talking to Dunleavy. The ball swung out and the defense rotated well. The Turkish team ended up with a poor shot and a lost possession. I don't recall the Warriors playing too much other zone defense the whole game.

The transition game, a staple of a Nelson coached team, was in full effect tonight. They may not have had a ton of fast break points, but the rebounders got the ball to the guards quickly or dribbled it up themselves. The fast breaks started much faster and the passing was much more crisp.


...and ended as a blowout

We gotta give props to Tim Kawakami tonight for taking the time out to meet up with us during halftime. He's a real cool guy and just from that short talk with him we could really tell he knows his hoops inside and out. If you get the chance, check out Kawakami's take on the night and his analysis of the Dunleavy-Ellis-Biedrins unit.

Oh and thanks to our buddy BK for hooking up the tickets.

Will the Warriors be able to sustain this success against NBA teams?

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kick ass
report.  i was waiting all night for this

by namjagerungbengi on Oct 13, 2006 12:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

More coming
We got some more coming tomorrow, so hang tight!

by Atma Brother ONE on Oct 13, 2006 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Foyle
Play?

Yeah, Turkey isn't exactly a power house. They've just got Okur and Turkolu.

by Zorgon on Oct 13, 2006 4:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Foyle
Poor Foyle didn't even sniff one single minute. He just doesn't seem to fit in and Nellie doesn't seem to care.
The Turkish fans out there were ridiculously awesome, cheering and chanting to the last second, despite the Warriors doubling their score the entire game. I even saw a guy wearing a Turkoglu jersey.

by MoUpInTheO on Oct 13, 2006 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AWW!
Noooooooo!!!! :'(

by Zorgon on Oct 13, 2006 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outstanding!
I must admit I was pretty bummed by your account of the last open practice; now you (and Kawakami) have me all jazzed up again. If Biedrins and Ellis have indeed progressed, and Wags is his old self PLUS, our ceiling may have just risen.

The mind begins to race ... If Dunleavy really takes to this point forward thing, and Wags and Ellis totally blow up, does our friend BDiddy eventually become expendable? If, for example, Minnesota stumbles out of the gate, is there any chance we might revisit a deal along the lines of, say, Baron, Diogu and Murphy for KG? Baron would be a pretty huge upgrade over Mike James (their 31-yr old PG of the future); and I'd happily go to war with a young-but-thrilling starting five of

1 Ellis
2 Wagner
3 JRich
4 Garnett
5 Biedrins

With Dunleavy, Pietrus, Roberson, Zarko, Foyle, Taft, and POB rounding out the bench.

Or maybe even better: Baron breaks his glass jaw again and misses the season; Monta gets vital experience at PG while the team takes it lumps; and we finish low enough to luck into Noah or Oden in the '07 draft -- the piece we need to make us 55-win team in '08.

Ahh... early fall, when hoops hope springs eternal...

by Sleepy Freud on Oct 13, 2006 8:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Open Practice vs. The Game
The open practice was very different from the game. The intensity was there at the game whereas guys during the open practice probably were just trying not to get hurt.

The negatives we saw during the open practice didn't show up too much last night. Shot selection was much better, defense was imporved, and the offense clicked.

by Fantasy Junkie on Oct 13, 2006 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

- not to rain on the parade but
if the Dubs start off against an NBA caliber team shooting that low a percentage in the first quarter we'll be in a deep hole, and our post defense hasn't been challenged ... I want to see how well Nelson's zones work vs NBA competition because that will be a key to GS staying in ballgames ...

it's just way too early to get too high (last night) or too low (the open practice) about this group, not even NBA preseason will tell us enough has changed to sniff playoffs - first 12-15 regular season games could indicate if Ws are even close (but remember last year when a month or two into the season everyone was SURE GS would make the playoffs?). Fool me once shame on you, fool me 12 freaking years ... just goes to show how starved we are for some good news around these parts!

by hardcore on Oct 13, 2006 9:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
   Very good, even-handed report.  Much better than what was in gthe Chron or CC Times.  Nice also to link in Tim K's insightful piece.  
   I was especially glad to see that Nellie has an open mind on Biedrins, who could just be the kind of center a Nellie offense needs, IF he can control his fouls and hit his free throws.  His hands, his energy, and his tenacity have always been his strengths; he's just terrific with the ball around the basket.  Now it looks like the rest of his game may be coming together -- and just at the right time.  BD, if he can accept playing without the ball in the half-court offense, may look raw now but he's got the size and talent to step his game up and utilize his pot-up and driving potential -- if he buys what Nellie's selling.  
   Dun, of course, looks like he's born for this style, but -- as noted -- we'll have to see what happens when he's up against real NBA fours.  Can he take the banging and still do his thing?  Glad to see that the team was playing much more zone than the 15-20% predicted.  If these guys are good enough to run and get back, they can set up and make things much harder for opponents from the get-go.  And no toreador play if they get to their spots.  Lots of IFs here, for sure, but there does seem to be a glimmer that Nellie's strong hand can stir last year's kool-aid into something far more potable -- and palatable.  
   So, it'll be interesting to see how these guys do against some bigger teams with NBA-style play, but this game suggests that the W's could be fun this year.  Right now, that's enough for me.

by johnl on Oct 13, 2006 9:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice points
BD, if he can accept playing without the ball in the half-court offense, may look raw now but he's got the size and talent to step his game up and utilize his pot-up and driving potential -- if he buys what Nellie's selling.  

Baron off the ball has me worried though. He's one of the league's best with the ball- driving to the bucket and creating shots for others. I just don't see him having much success at the 2. I like him as a distributor, rather than as a scorer off the ball.

But who knows? It's a new season. Let's wait and see. Nellie obviously knows what he's doing.

by Atma Brother ONE on Oct 13, 2006 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

m'vn BD
is almost brilliant - he can come off screens to get the 1st pass and create from different angles on the floor: his passing, penetrating, and post up game are all enhanced by it in fact ... I worry so much more about defending the 4/5s of the league with DunMurphy than BD on the offensive end ... Beedy and POB better work out as backups as Foyle is clearly not (yet?) in the plan

by hardcore on Oct 13, 2006 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baron and the Point Forward
What did Baron do with the Hornets when the offense ran in part through Mashburn?  Mash certainly handled the ball a bunch and managed more than 5 assists per game.  The offense usually ran through him in addition to the point guard.  Those seasons were Baron's best so far in terms of his overall game.    

by jae on Oct 13, 2006 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look foward
The nuggets played this team to, and won 118-102.  And Hedo Turkoglu and Okur did not play for them when they played the nuggets (i dont know that the actually play for the team any more).  So we can say that the Warriors beat this team worse than the Nuggets, even without our star.  Of course the real tests comes tomorrow when the warriors actually play the nuggets, anyone thinking of going down to mexico to watch?

by FoyledAgain on Oct 13, 2006 10:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

umm, what??
umm, FYI, turkoglu and okur haven't played for Efes Pilsen for like 5 years...

by andymonarch on Oct 13, 2006 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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