Rumor: Warriors Looking to Move Dead-Weight Contracts for Allen Iverson

by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 12, 2006 9:44 AM PST in Rumors Comment 11 comments

From Peter Vecsey's article The Answer is... Here's the Lowdown on Allen's Destination in the New York Post:

The Warriors are as active and aggressive in diving on Iverson's loose body as any team. Not to keep A.I. (and you thought Don Nelson was seriously about playing smallest) but to re-route his $49M, two-years-to-go debt along with at least one of their dead-weight contracts - Adonal Foyle, Troy Murphy or Mike Dunleavy. Jason Richardson is the guy King has coveted for some time. However, his surgically repaired knee is hurting (swollen) - and not only in the healing area.

Let's just put it this way:

Adonal Foyle: $42 million over 6 years (currently in year 3 of the deal with a team option for year 6)
Troy Murphy: $58 million over 6 years (currently in year 2 of the deal)
Mike Dunleavy: $44 million over 5 years (currently in the 1st year of the deal)
Moving one of these bad contracts for AI? Priceless.

If you're interested in taking a closer look at the state of the Warriors salary cap head on over to HoopsHype.

Which of these contracts are you most eager to move in a deal for Allen Iverson? (Haha and no, all 3 doesn't seem that likely.)

The fun don't stop:

99% of rumors never happen, but 99% of them are fun to talk about!

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Still on AI?

AI is fun to watch, but as everyone knows he must ALWAYS have the ball in his hands. He's a horrible match for the W's -- who need to move the ball around -- even if they didn't already have BD.
The Sixers have dug themselves into a deep hole by not playing AI -- loss streak at 8 now -- while trying to trade him. Each day his value descreases. As the ESPN folks agereed yesterday, King's going to get "nothing" for Iverson. So why the W's would even consider trading BD, Monta or JR in order to go smaller is beyond me (and I hope beyond Mullin).
AI does nothing to help the team's cap situation -- he's just another enormous drag for three years. Only an idiot would want to lard that contract onto the team.
The W's need a "four" (defender, rebounder, passer, shooter) not an over-the-hill six foot "two" (since AI really isn't capable of playing point any more). Lacking a "four" they need a slahing, scoring, shooter at "three" -- and there are several out there.
A much better -- and much cheaper -- choice for this team would be Artest, whose available. He's got the attitude and muscle to push this team along. His problem is that he ALSO likes to pound the ball and shoot, which could be disruptive in a motion game. But he is the lesser of two evils.

Let's not get snowed by a tiny, old, 40% shooting ball hog who can't seem to lead or win. He makes the great play, yes -- at least one or two a game -- but we can all watch those on SportsCenter; we don't need to weaken this team further by adding another piece that simply won't fit. If you want the W's to be a winning team, it'll be a lot harder with Iverson.

by johnl on Dec 12, 2006 10:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Artest?

"A much better -- and much cheaper -- choice for this team would be Artest, whose available"
Hi John, You think he is? That would be a good move, we need some toughness. Who would Sacto want for RonRon? How bout it Pyro? any thoughts?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 12, 2006 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Artest is available???

I guess any and all players are up for grabs at any time but Artest being on the block right now is news to me. Link me, please.

Let's assume for a moment Ron was available. You can look up his stats to see the beef of it. You would also be getting a guy who would give up his first born for a win. He is always early to practice and the last to leave. He works endlessly with the young guys. Yah, he had a problem in Indy, but in Sacto he is an ideal citizen, holds the team to high standards and never stops thinking we will win it all. Who do you have that would replace that?

If either Sac or GS were to get AI we are going to need a SERIOUS rebounder in the trade. Does either of our teams have one? Our best may be traded (Kenny) and yours is better, young (Biedrins) and also on the AI chopping block.

by pyro on Dec 12, 2006 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Trading for Artest

This is the only thing I've seen on it:
http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/kawakami/2006/12/06/artest-to-the-warriors-makes-more-sense-this-seas on-than-last/

by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 12, 2006 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Monta's Contract?

What did Monta Ellis sign for? The NBA transaction database doesn't say how many years he signed for, and HoopsHype shows a blank for next season. Most 2nd round picks sign two year deals (which is how the Warriors lost Gilbert, or course). Did Ellis sign a 2 year deal or a 3 year deal?

BTW, who knew that all those ridiculous contracts would come in handy when AI came on the market? Brian Grant helped the Heat win a title because the Heat couldn't have traded for Shaq without his ridiculous contract. NBA Action! It's Fantastic! NBA Salary Cap Rules! They're Farcically Counter-Intuitive!

by Steve Perrin on Dec 12, 2006 10:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Monta's contract

Monta's making the NBA minimum this year. If I recall correctly, we have him with an option for next year at the minimum as well. At the end of this, he'll be a restricted free agent with the Warriors retaining Bird rights as well as the Arenas provision surrounding restricted free agents. If not signed through next season, Ellis becomes a restricted free agent and the Warriors retain Arenas Provisions to match almost any offer. In any event, the Warriors are in the driver's seat with his contract.

by jae on Dec 12, 2006 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

1st of, gotta give you props Atma Brother ONE...

you are all over this trade talk like a dog on a meat-wagon! Keep up the good work!

Now, on to A.I....

I get the feeling the W's are trying to push THREE of the big contracts out of the door.

We all know that with AI's contract Philly will have to take back two of the following: J-Rich, Murph, Dunleavy, Foyle.

There's no question J-Rich is gone if this deal is done, and most likely Murphy and Dunleavy.

The only question is who is the other team involved, and who would they be giving up?

Bottomline is that is looks like the Warriors could potentially field a team that looks like this:

Baron
AI
Monta
Diogu
Biedrins

Ouch! That's gotta hurt Sacramento! ha!

by bigcity7 on Dec 12, 2006 10:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Finally, a deal that almost makes sense ...

If you're going to go for Iverson (which I'm still opposed to) this is the way to do it:

You trade Richardson (who's hard to see go, but becomes more expendable as Monta develops) and Murphy, or Richardson and Foyle.

Baron still remains our primary ballhandler - he's better at that than Iverson - which means that the offense doesn't turn into a bunch of one-on-one contests (as it does when Iverson controls the ball).

You clear some cap space and erase one of Mullin's mistakes.

I'm not sure we're any better after making that trade, but at least we're not selling out our future.

by Ronaldinho on Dec 12, 2006 10:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I gotta agree with you there...

It would be foolish to trade any of the following: Ellis, Biedrins, Diogu, for AI.

Its Philly whose in a bind -- not Golden State.

But with that said, AI is a small SG who has never played with a play maker like BD.

Sure, BD shoots alot, but he is a playmaker.

And in the process, we groom Monta to take his spot or AI's.

A potential roster of BD, AI, Monta, Biedrins, Diogu, and Pietrus is worth trading J-Rich, Murphy and Dunleavy IMO.

by bigcity7 on Dec 12, 2006 10:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

but to re-route his $49M

that is a key statement, re-route him for who?
KG? J.Oneal? Pao? to bad the early season Amare possibilities have seemed to die down. as i said before if we deal for AI it has to just be the start of some major deals, or we wont be in any better situation than we are now.
as far as which contracts to move, in order
foyle, dun, murph
those should be the only big contracts we give for AI(unless the front office already has a taker for him, which i think is unlikely)

by azw on Dec 12, 2006 10:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs