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Rumor: Warriors Dangling JRich and Adonal Foyle for Allen Iverson

SI.com's Marty Burns breaks down where Allen Iverson might land in Going Places: Analyzing where Iverson may land -- and how quickly. Here's what matters most to Warriors Nation:

The Warriors reportedly are dangling Jason Richardson (who has missed the last four games with a sore knee), as well as Adonal Foyle.

Moving JRich the heart and soul of the Warriors along with Adonal Foyle the longest-tenured Warrior and the face of the franchise? Now that's a blockbuster deal of epic proportions! The rest of the hoops world probably won't see it that way, but for Warriors Nation it's a major, major move.

You have to wonder why the 76ers would want to trade for JR right now. No doubt, he's a flat out stud, but wouldn't you take a wait and see approach with his knee? Jason is a high-flyer and right now a lot of his game is dependent on his uber-athleticism. But hey, we're talking about the front office from an Atlantic Division team. Anything's possible.


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The Warriors are playing a dangerous game if...
they want AI.

J-Rich and Foyle is a joke of epic porportions.

J-Rich and Murphy is more feasible, and better in the longrun for this squad.

Billy King is not NUTS.

There would be a riot in the streets of Philly if they traded their franchise for J-Rich, and Adonal freakin Foyle!

by bigcity7 on Dec 12, 2006 12:26 PM PST   0 recs

P.S.
I'd rather dump Murph than Foyle, too, tho not by much; not sure that that trade would work, tho, under cap rules unless we were required to take another Sixer (ugh!).

by johnl on Dec 12, 2006 12:29 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Not my cuppa
I don't like giving up JR for AI -- especially since AI's got $40 million coming for the next two years (and another $9 mill this year).  But getting rid of Foyle might make it work, since he's got three years after this one.  The W's would have to make it thru AI's last year by going over cap to keep AB and Monta, but then they'd be close to seeing daylight on the cap.

So, from a BBall perspective, an AI trade does little for me -- he's just NOT what the team really needs -- but from a cap perspective, it could work.  (Tho if I were King, I'd rather have Megette, Livingston and whoever from the Clips -- and that trade's on the table, too, it appears.)

If the W's deal either AB or Monta, though, that'll be it for me.  They have to keep that future if they're ever going to dig out of this hole.

by johnl on Dec 12, 2006 12:27 PM PST   0 recs

True fans?

If the W's deal either AB or Monta, though, that'll be it for me.

Nice too see who the real fans are in GSoM.

by gsdubz on Dec 13, 2006 9:13 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

i guess
it would help dumping foyle's contract but wtfffff I don't want jrich leaving! I like our team! I think somebody already said it but its our front court with the problem not the back!

by djchuckdeez on Dec 12, 2006 12:37 PM PST   0 recs

NOOOOOO!!!!!
how can you give away your heart? you can't live without your heart!
Big Tone

by tadams1080 on Dec 12, 2006 12:42 PM PST   0 recs

Yeah...
I don't like losing J-Rich.

If you take a look out of your windows, you can now see Dallas, TX. Quite the site, no?

by coma on Dec 12, 2006 1:32 PM PST   0 recs

Why do we keep talkin bout this
AI is not gonna pull a miracle and turn us into a contender. This is a bad idea. Seriously though if J-Rich gets traded, I'm gonna become a Kings or a Sixers fan because of Jason. I know im not tha only one thats thinkin this.
I love 2 tell tha truth, but I'm such a Good Liar

by JRichIsStillAGodButBiedrinsIsABeast on Dec 12, 2006 1:34 PM PST   0 recs

You can take away JRich
You can take away our heart and soul to become a soulless ballhog club, but one thing you cannot do....

DON'T

TAKE

AWAY

MY

FOYLE!

If we're going to lose, we've gotta bring him along for the ride.

Foyle: Warrior Legend.

by Zorgon on Dec 12, 2006 1:36 PM PST   0 recs

huh
why would you not want to dump foyle's contract if you could

by djchuckdeez on Dec 12, 2006 1:44 PM PST   0 recs

If they trade JRich...
I think I wouldn't watch or care of about the warriors for a long time. I would probably look after the team jrich is on. I want him to get a ring, even better if it's with the warriors. I agree with most who think Mullin should pass on this deal. It's still the beginning of the season, I feel like the warriors already have 2nd round playoff potential, but they just don't know how to use it and/or keep it consistent. Plus, Richardson wasn't 100%, so we still don't know how much he can bring. And now they're not gonna wait? Geez. He's definitely the heart of the team. How can Mullin just trade him off when he listened to him in order to bring in Baron two seasons ago. I don't know what to expect anymore.

by Sleeksilve2 on Dec 12, 2006 1:50 PM PST   0 recs

Wow
A bit extreme, no?

If you've watched over 12 freaking crappy seasons (13th soon t come) why give up now? The fun has just started!

by Zorgon on Dec 12, 2006 2:37 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

kings just pulled out of the running
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/43717/20061212/kings_pull_out_of_iverson_derby/

The Sacramento Kings are out of the Allen Iverson derby.

``We're staying away,'' Kings co-owner Joe Maloof said in a telephone interview with Scott Soshnick. ``We're not going forward.''

Maloof did not cite a reason why they will not be exploring a trade for the former Most Valuable Player.

i love AI but we need a big man more than him...my only hope is that we could use AI in another trade later for that big

the crowning achievement of ira newble's illustrious career

by JudBooshlur on Dec 12, 2006 2:18 PM PST   0 recs

dude wtf...
Did you steal my user name?

by Jud Booshler on Dec 12, 2006 2:51 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

There is a god.
However, I am only partially convinced at best right now. Last year, Artest was on, off, on.

By the way, if I don't get to your pre-game post before tip-off, have a great game night all!

by pyro on Dec 12, 2006 2:52 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

monta?
you guys love this kid because of his "potential"?  he has inconsistent jumpers and turns the ball over way too much.  the only reason i see you guys liking him is because he's quick and gets layups/dunks.  layups/dunks = energizes crowd = monta ellis becomes fan favorite

by chimp on Dec 12, 2006 2:24 PM PST   0 recs

I think you're kinda right about this one
it reminds me of a similar situation in Oklahoma City. Remember Chris "The BirdMan" Andersen? He really didn't contribute all that well rather than occasionally getting some random dunk that energized the crowd, no rebounds and poor defense. Anyway, his jerseys were everywhere, and I still see them after the suspension.

On the other hand, you have P.J. Brown, loyal to the tam, great defensive pressure, and rebounds. But what did he have on offense? Boring 12-Foot jumpers with an occasional Layup/Dunk. How many P.J. Brown Jerseys have I seen? One. An old guy was wearing it. You see more (when he was still here) CHARLOTTE Hornets Jerseys than you did P.J. Brown Jerseys.

Monta is overhyped.

by Zorgon on Dec 12, 2006 2:58 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

AI has more heart than anyone
You guys are worried about losing the heart of the Warriors? JRich does play all out everytime he steps on the court, but he's hurt. And AI's heart is legendary. No one can match AI's intensity game in and game out. I like the move. I think bringing over AI may inspire the other Warriors to bring some more intensity to the table. The fact is JRich has been on the Warriors for 5 or 6 years and where has he taken us. I'm not saying it's JRich's fault that the Warriors spin their wheels every season, but the Warriors probably aren't headed anywhere with this nucleas anyways. It's time for a dramatic change.

by showerman on Dec 12, 2006 2:47 PM PST   0 recs

Bd
I would give up davis instead of j-rich

by bor887 on Dec 12, 2006 2:50 PM PST   0 recs

why?
Why would the sixers want j rich when they have andre iguodala? and besides, which do u think would work better: baron iverson and monta? or Monta iverson and j rich? so i don't see how giving up richardson would work for anybody. monta on the other hand....

by cantfindanname on Dec 12, 2006 4:30 PM PST   0 recs

no
GSoM

I've always loved Iverson's game and heart but i don't think JR (+ contracts and scraps) for Iverson makes sense. Iverson and BD can score, but to get decent numbers (+25 points) they both require lots of shots. having two volume shooters on one team isn't a good idea (especially when you don't have any pure shooters or enough low post scoring to bring up the teams shot %). also Monta and Iverson's games seem too similar to me to want both on the field at the same time. Monta+Iverson+BD = redundancy and low shot percentage. And whats that give you? BD, Iverson, Monta, Pietrus, AB? thats way too small. so is Monta a sub? i don't get it... unless they then move BD to get another piece.

Iverson for BD (+ contracts and scraps) seems to result in a better team. Monta, Iverson, JR, Pietrus, AB. its better but i still think you lack a real point guard (still not convinced Monta's a better 1 then 2) and enough rebounding/low post scoring.

honestly i don't get why GS is going for Iverson in the first place. GSs big issues are rebounding, interior defense, and offensive black outs. we need a reliable big forward (KG baby, Gasol, Bosh, Dwight Howard)  to compliment AB who can get to the hole when the offense stagnates and brings hard nosed defendesr to compliment AB shot blocking but slightly soft defense. If that fials we need a Star SF who can slash, defend and rebound (Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Reshard Lewis, Paul Pierce). I like Pietrus but he's not good enough for a team without a Star PF. If you can't get a star PF or SF defender then the last GOOD option would be a star shooter (Stojakovic, Ray Allen)

my guess as to Nellie's perfered lineup -> Monta/BD/JR/Pieitrus/AB is just too small
best -> Monta/+-BD or +-JR/Pietrus/Garnet/AB is perfect but a hoop dream
2nd best -> Monta/+-BD or +-JR/Rashard Lewis or Paul Pierce/Ike/AB
3rd best -> BD/Ray Allen/JR/some defensive minded, rebounding low scoring PF/AB

i'll be at the game. as an NBA fan/ticket buyer i'm sad to see TMac isn't gonna play. as a warriors fan i'm happy.

by Zardoz on Dec 12, 2006 4:59 PM PST   0 recs

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