Rumor: 76ers Want a Troy Murphy Package for Allen Iverson
From David Aldridge of the Philadelphia Inquirer:
For example, the Sixers dearly covet Warriors forward Troy Murphy, who seems to be on the trading block; a package with a couple of other Warriors might get things done.
It seems like a slam dunk that T-Double will not be on the Warriors next season.
We will all be pleasantly SHOCKED if Mullin and company can obtain superstar Allen Iverson without giving up fan favorite Jason Richardon and Baron Davis aka Boom Dizzle.
How many wins do you think the Warriors would rack up if they had a fun trio of AI, Boom Dizzle, and JRich?
99% of rumors never happen, but 99% of them are fun to talk about!
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At least 48 wins
SG: AI
SF: JRich
PF: Ike
C: Some scrub
That's a nice lineup. In this new NBA that might just work.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 2, 2006 9:48 AM PDT reply actions
Let AI Go
However, if Mully could work some kind of a trade for BD, then AI would make a little more sense.
With a rather newbie NBA coach in Monty, having two strong personalties like AI and BD on the same team under any circumstances could easily and probably spell disaster.
And I just don't see AI at SG, simply because for most of his career he has handled the ball. And could you just imagine other teams playing us with our only inside presence Ike and Andris? Hmmm, I wonder what their strategy would be?
I also don't think it would make any sense to create such a logjam at PG, with AI, BD, Fish, and Monta.
Finally, while AI would be an improvement over BD for hustle and mental toughness, I personally wouldn't pay so much money for an aging superstar. We would just be in the same position we are in now, which is tying up millions on a PG (Read BD or AI) who has a definite downside and is on the downhill in terms of age and physical durability.
What I would do, as I have stated before, is find a way to unload BD and go with Fish and Monta at PG. I probably would look into picking up Speedy, who is reportedly available, for some help off the bench.
I think with Fish/Monta at PG and JRich/Monta at SG, we would have a backcourt that we could go as far as we needed to in the playoffs.
Our big problems arise at SF, PF, and C.
If POB can become a reliable backup to Andris, and they both improve enough to not be a negative factor, we would be OK at C.
I think Ike has possibilities at PF, but he is a few years away. I think a dynamic SF would make all the difference.
I still say trade BD and Troy for a dynamic SF and a solid, playoff-experienced PF to help Ike and Zarko. Keep MD for a backup off the bench.
We would still be a young team, but more balanced.
PG: Fish - Monta - (Speedy)
SG: JRich - Monta - MP
SF: (Top SF) - MD - MP
PF: Ike - (Reliable PF) - Zarko
C: Andris - POB - Kosta Coast
As you can see, I don't consider Adonyl a part of the W's future.
Our strength would be JRich and the best SF we could get. Fish would give experienced and reliable help, as would the PF.
Monta, MP, MD, (Reliable PF), Zarko, and POB seem to be an excellent bench that definately could score.
We would be very young with Ike and Andris, but sometimes young can work, and they will only get better.
So in conclusion, I hope Mully doesn't even consider AI. I just think the possible problems and unbalanced roster would outweigh any advantages.
by pineriver on Jul 2, 2006 10:57 AM PDT reply actions
I'm torn
On the other hand, it does nothing for the Warriors in terms of winning anything. Maybe we sneak into the 8th spot. BD and AI on the same team makes as much sense as Marbury and Francis on the same team. I don't think JRich can hang at the SF spot, although he'd still be an upgrade to MDJ. For the most part I agree with Pineriver.
If we got AI and then could swing another trade sending BD for a good SF/PF that might make some sense.
by LancerEvoV on Jul 2, 2006 11:30 AM PDT reply actions
AI is NOT the answer
we just need Dunleavy to step up and take over =)
I love it...
Murphy
PG: BD, Claxton
SG: J-Rich, Monta
SF: Maggette, Gooden
PF: Gooden, Diogu, Zarko
C: Biedrins, O'Bryant, Kosta
AI
by bor887 on Jul 2, 2006 3:59 PM PDT reply actions
Get AI
For everyone to say AI is getting older, he's not falling off as much as say Shaq right now. His assists are up, he takes care of the ball, but he just lacks a bit of defense outside of his 2 or so steals a game. Plus he is very durable and misses few games a year. Compare that to Baron in which him playing 70 games a year is beyond realistic.
As long as he doesn't pull 30+ shots a night, which he most likely would not lest he be trade bait for the mentioned SF help.
And did anyone see who the Bucks drafted after "Kosta Coast"? David Noel from North Carolina. Known primarily as a dunker and second option swingman, but look how someone similar, JRich, turned out.
Murph/Pietrus/Zarko/Fish for The Answer
Troy Murphy, Mickael Pietrus, Zarko Carbarkapa, and Derek Fisher for The Answer.
We might even be able to sway a draft pick or two out of the Sixers, since they desperately want to move Iverson.
Baron (Speedy - $1 mil exception or $5 mil)
Iverson (Ellis)
Richardson (Dunleavy)
Diogu (Biedrins) (Taft)
Foyle (O'Bryant) (Kosta)
That team would make the playoffs.
by Saltinuts40 on Jul 3, 2006 2:59 AM PDT reply actions
Iverson is the Answer for a reason.
Iverson Trade
PG - Allen Iverson, Monta Ellis
SG - Jason Richardson, Monta Ellis
SF - Al Harrington, Mike Dunleavy Jr.
PF - Ike Diogu, Christ Taft
C - Andris Biedrins, Patrick O'Bryant
In the above scenario we deal Troy Murphy, Mickael Pietrus, Derek Fisher and Adoynal Foyle for AI and maybe some cap filler.
We then deal Baron Davis for Al Harrington in a sign and trade.
I think these two deals would put the Warriors in the playoffs next season while still allowing us to have some young players on the rise (Ellis, Diogu, Taft, Biedrins, O'Bryant) with some young veterans (J-Rich and Harrington) and aging veteran STAR player in Iverson. Thoughts on how realistic this is?
Don't Forget Zark the Shark!
I would not count on Taft, however, due to injuries.
Personally, I think Zarko may develop into a Kevin McHale-type player that could back up Ike, wouldn't complain, and would add an outside threat.
Our bench would be a little weak at PG-SG. I know AI and JRich wouldn't need too much help, and Monta is better than excellent for his age, however, I'd feel better with one more player off the bench. Could we get Speedy in your plan?
Overall, very interesting.
by pineriver on Jul 3, 2006 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Mid-Level Exception
by norcaldevilasu on Jul 3, 2006 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Not so Speedy
by NY Warriors Fan on Jul 3, 2006 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
STEAL
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 3, 2006 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Still Waiting for the Rod and Chris Show to Begin
The Bulls are looking better overnight (Getting ready to sign Big Ben). The Lakers also made a nice move with Radmanovic and the Hornets with Peja.
So the question is, where are Rod and Chris?
by pineriver on Jul 4, 2006 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
where are Rod and Chris?
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 4, 2006 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I like your thinking
Norcal
I don't see AI and Baron being able to co-exist with those two huge ego's, oh and do you honestly think our current coach can even take someone more problematic then baron???

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