2006 Rookie Rankings- Nothing's Cooking but Fouls

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 26, 2006 11:39 PM PDT in News

NBA.com dropped their first installment of the 2006 rookie rankings based on the Summer League play so far. The Chef didn't make the top 10 rookie list, but he got this mention:

Warriors big man Patrick O'Bryant averaged 9.6 points, 4.2 rebounds and 1.4 blocks while often finding himself in foul trouble.

#26 with 26 fouls a game!
(Photo by Garrett W. Ellwood/NBAE via Getty Images)

Are you worried the Warriors drafted another one minute man in Patrick O'Bryant aka The Chef?

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Another Biendrin?

you guys, did we juss draft another Biedrins? at almost the same spot he was drafted in. Always getting into foul trouble, should we be concerned? hopefully, his FT shooting is better than Biendrins, if it isnt, oh my lord

by chingychink2006 on Jul 27, 2006 12:24 AM PDT reply actions

Indeed

Yes, he is another Biedrins, but he does shoot better FTs. He shot 70% at Bradley...

by Yoyo on Jul 27, 2006 12:39 AM PDT reply actions

he's got offense

unlike biedidrins, o'bryant understands the game and can play offense. i saw a clip of him knockng down a 20 footer. all o'bryant needs to do is bulk up, which he says he',ll do and he'll be fine

by mydedgerbil555 on Jul 27, 2006 1:01 AM PDT reply actions

O'Bryant

is way more skilled now than Biedrins has shown so far, he has the potential to be a far better offensive player without a doubt, but i think he has the same problem as Biedrins, he fouls so much because of inexperience and trying too hard, then cant get the PT he needs because of the fouls; a never ending cycle of futility....
Hopefully The Chef will understand that he cant stop every single shot attempt, pick and chose which shots to block, get the NBA game down, finish touching up his offensive game, and be a solid center for the W's in years to come

Well theres always next year x12

by FoyledAgain on Jul 27, 2006 1:15 AM PDT reply actions

No Ike had tha same problem.

I aint even trippin, I know tha chef is gonna have his problems in tha kitchen. But he will soon learn with experience how to create the perfect defensive food in not getting himself burned.

by JRichIsStillAGodButBiedrinsIsABeast on Jul 27, 2006 1:44 AM PDT reply actions

I still don't get why

people are so down on Biedrins. No, he can't shoot. And no, he can't drain free throws. But he is pretty adept at catching around the basket and subsequently getting the ball in the basket and he's shown a lot of potential as an inside defensive stopper of sorts. He's also been one of the youngest players in the NBA two years running. If he can ever learn to passably shoot free throws and discipline himself with regards to the fouling, I think he'd make a darn good center.

Jury's still out on O'Bryant as far as I'm concerned. Summer league is summer league. Tskitishvili looked good in a summer league once.

by jonathan on Jul 27, 2006 2:53 AM PDT reply actions

The Problem Isn't Andris

I agree concerning Andris. He has the potential to be a great center if he keeps improving. His attitude on the court is excellent. All hustle and no excuses.

I don't think the GSW's problems are with the younger bench guys. Our young bench guys are excellent.

Monta - Ike - Zarko - Andris and now POB are not the problem.

The only real debate is whether Chris Mullin should have based the future of the franchise on BD.

The real remaining problems are C & R's poor judgment in signing Adonyl, MD, and Troy to inflated, long-term contracts last year that they can't move this year.

Does anyone really doubt that Andris will return in great shape ready to play?

Unfortunately for the GSW, the same cannot be said for the player Chris Mullin has chosen as the GSW franchise player and the GSW highest paid player. Everyone from the fans to the media have no idea how serious BD really is about next season and what kind of physical and mental shape he'll return in. Everybody questions his committment.

And therein lies the problem for the GSW.

Anybody question Kobe's committment? DWade's? Steve Nash's? Dirk's? Tim Duncan's?

(DFish's - Lucky for Utah, they got a professional who will show up ready to play when the season starts. Nobody doubts Fish's committment.)

JRich's?

Jason Richardson is really our true franchise player. He has the same dedication and committment as any of the All-Stars mentioned above. JRich is the one who could lead the GSW to an NBA Championship. JRich is also the best role model for the younger players with his leadership and desire.

Too bad our GM doesn't see it that way.

by pineriver on Jul 27, 2006 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions

O'Bryant

I think that Patrick will be fine. The jump from a small college to the pros can take an adjustment period, especially for big men.
Patrick has already shown an inate feel for the game, and once he gets experience he'll do fine.

He already reminds me of a young Robert Parrish who was also from a small school (Citadel?) and we all know how Parrish turned out. In fact didn't the W's trade Parrish away?

Also of note the nicknames of Parrish and O'Bryant are not too far apart. The "Chief" and The "Chef". I think that their games will be similar in time as well.

by goldenstatefan on Jul 27, 2006 10:07 AM PDT reply actions

Predictions for POB

I hope the part about POB taking several years to develop where he's seen as an unmotivated underachiever, only to be traded away before his glory days isn't similar. If POB is going to suck, I sure hope he doesn't ever get good for another team either.

I predict that POB will be a far less selfish player than Parrish. There's no "I" in chef.

by jae on Jul 27, 2006 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Robert Parish

Robert Parish play college ball at Centenary College in Louisiana.

by Ace Fury on Jul 27, 2006 10:16 AM PDT reply actions

Thanks Ace!

Thank you Ace, I knew it started with a "C" just was unsure about the school.

by goldenstatefan on Jul 27, 2006 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Well

Amare Stoudemire averaged 8 fouls in the same summer league.

That should give everyone a perspective on how much the foul-count is worth in player evaluations.

by MightyReds2020 on Jul 27, 2006 10:36 AM PDT reply actions

Fouls

I'm not too worried about POBs foul problems in the summer league. Big men almost always have some foul problems as they adjust to the higher athleticism and size they face in the NBA. Plus, the refs were wearing out the whistles in vegas. Amare got called for 12 fouls one game i think. A lot of the players were complaining about the amount of fouls called in the games. If anything, I'm glad he isn't shying away from contact like some skinny big men do. He'll get the hang of what is and isn't allowed in the NBA, and he'll be fine.

Biedrins can't seem to keep from sticking a leg or arm out and picks up way too many cheap fouls away from the basket. Hopefully, the Warriors will work with both of these kids on that.

by chrisz42 on Jul 27, 2006 10:37 AM PDT reply actions

First of all,

Biedrins is like 12 years-old. He's got upside. O'Bryant is also ridiculously young, and I don't think any realistic person expects him to make too meaningful a contribution this year. Sure, he's a project, but not one worth groaning about. I doubt he's the best plater available at the pick we took him, but these things are nearly impossible to tell. He's 7' tall. And most experts agreed he was the best 7-footer available. It wasn't that bad of a pick. Most people agree he has the athleticism to make a productive impact, he just need time to refine his abilities. That's gonna take more than just one summer. One year in the league should probably do the trick. I predict we'll all be more high on O'Bryant toward the end of the season. Let's not lose sight of our real problems: Mullin's a fucking idiot, Monty is a shitty coach, BD is broken, Dunleavy and Foyle are overcompensated for their limited contributions, and we play in a tough division and conference.