O'Bryant, Diogu and Biedrins: Wasted Lottery Picks?

by Atma Brother ONE on Sep 19, 2006 4:35 PM PDT in Links Comment 9 comments

In his Talking Points Tim Kawakami (check out our recent Q&A Part I | Part II) does some great meta-analysis of Don Nelson's recent interviews (see Nelson ready to shake up the Warrior) and Don Nelson Mania on the Web! (Part I | Part II | Part III | Part IV). Tim's final verdict:

Forget about O’Bryant as a Warrior.

Worry about Diogu as a Warrior.

And be concerned about Biedrins.

It's tough to really comment on how POB is going to pan out in Nellie's system or in the NBA as he's never seen a single minute of NBA action. From the scouting reports on him and his recent summer league performance it doesn't look so hot though.

I was actually pretty impressed with Ike's shooting touch and range last season. He's a legit jump shooter inside the arc. Nellie will like Ike. If there's anyone who can pull off a lineup of BD, Monta, JRich, Ike, and TMurph, it's Don Nelson. It would be fun to watch.

Biedrins- well, you have to think he's the first guy Nellie trades away or benches. Adonal and his extra 27 pounds would go first, but with that great contract he's probably found himself a nice permanent home in the Bay. Biedrins just doesn't look like a Nellie type of player at all. His game is far from fluid and when he's not fouling out of games he either looks lost or clumsy. Great attitude and energy, but very little skill or progress at this stage of his career.

Do you think the Warriors wasted their past 3 lottery picks on guys who don't fit Nellie's game plan? Everyone has been discussing what Nellie will do for BD, Murphy, Dunleavy, and Pietrus, but there really hasn't been enough about POB, Ike, and Biedrins. Drop some knowledge in the comments section.

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sigh

the only draft I thought was great that we had in the past 12 years was 2001 when we got Jrich, T-Murder and Arenas. That was THE BEST draft year we ever had. The last 3 years wasted? no...the last 5 years yes. Pietrus before that and mr 44 million dollar man Dunleavy, they both haven't proved anything.

by djchuckdeez on Sep 19, 2006 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Ahem!

1960! We got Wilt Chamberlain! What now, Bee-yotch!

RUN FOYLE, RUN!!!!

by Zorgon on Sep 19, 2006 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i never liked biedrins

i can't believe some of you guys would still want biedrins. it's his 3rd season in the nba and he's just a fouling machine. some of ya'll would reject a trade if it involved biedrins! patrick o bryant was just a stupid pick

by chimp on Sep 19, 2006 5:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nellie = A change of perspective

For so long we've all been lamenting Adonal Foyle and the need for quality big men...thus the last 3 drafts. But big men take time to develop (unless they are Shaq).

Remember, Biedrins is VERY young still, Diogu is only in year 2 (and he played sparingly last year behind Murphy) and Taft lost all of last season (funny how nobody is talking about him, although I see him working well in Nellie's system if he can ever recover). I know that the Jermaine O'Neal references are cliche, but cliches only become cliches because they are based in facts that continue to repeat themselves.

HOWEVER, with the Nellie re-hire we all have to re-evaluate our positions on the roster. What we craved over the past several years (the elusive dominant big man) is no longer the coveted prize. Frankly, I think that none of us knows what to expect and we won't be able to fully understand the roster until Nellie has them into January. If we can showcase Murphy, Pietrus and the young bigs early we might be able to make a trade for a dynamic 3 (Rashard Lewis hasn't got that extension yet...)

by McJ on Sep 19, 2006 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Picking on kids

Washed out Andris is 2 months older than POB. He's 6 months younger than Monta. He still can't order a drink at a bar.

Time to give up on him? Only if you want to see another x-warrior playing and contributing on another team.

by joe sez on Sep 19, 2006 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Too early to say

You can't trust Nelson. He lies to pump up players he wants to trade and disguise his next moves. He plays you. Wait and see. His plan will reveal itself, but probably not prematurely.

by Gain on 10 on Sep 19, 2006 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

that slurping sound y'all heard

was the Western conference PFs & Cs licking their collective chops at the the thought of their ppg rising going up against Murphy and the Arnold-like Dunleavy in the post. OOOOOOH it hurts so good!

Wasted draft picks? here?! NAAAAAAAA - not when we got the big-bad-boys like GS!

Nelson's game plan? deceptive?? Y'all don't think the rest of the league doesn't KNOW what the Woes have and what Nellie's about? they're not bumpkins ...

by hardcore on Sep 19, 2006 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Bulls defense under Skiles = GSW under Nellie

Chicago Bulls were height challenged at PF and C but lead the NBA in defensive field goal precentage.

Bulls played team defense that denied the ball to the post player.

If they can scare Miami with 6'9" Sweetney and foul prone Chandler at C and play 6'7" Nocioni at PF then GSW can be competitive with Andris, Ike, Murphy and Dunleavy.

Skiles is a fitness freak and so is Nellie. I think the GSW will play the same kind of game -- run on offense and get back to set up the defense.

by joe sez on Sep 19, 2006 9:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs