What the Warriors Are When they Are Bad

by philsmith75 on Oct 14, 2007 10:25 PM PDT Comment 10 comments

I hate this kind of game in the worst way but being realistic about the Ws, this is what the Ws are going to look like when they have an off game. We saw that when they are clicking its awesome; but what is it that we are seeing? Shots falling, jumpers falling, everything falling into place, up fakes working, clear paths to the hole.

Well when the jumpers don't fall, they slough off and let the Ws just jack it up, which leads to long rebounds and fast breaks the other way. That's why post up options are so valuable, short shots and FTs to offset the missed jumpers.

There was no Biedrins tonight but I think its not going to be any different with Biedrins in and the jumpers not falling.

Its okay, I'm willing to live with this if we get the highs too, its the price.

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There was a little girl...

Who had a little curl
Right in the middle of her forehead;
And when she was good
She was very, very good,
But when she was bad she was horrid.

-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

Hmm, sound like a team we know...?

by Sleepy Freud on Oct 14, 2007 10:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

well

None of us saw the game (those that did are still enroute, i suppose)

From tracking the box score, it seems like Hudson and Harrington were making more of an effort to get to the line in the second half and MADE THEIR FREE THROWS.

Of course, no Ellis and no Biedrins robbed some of our ability to get easy buckets.

and then you have our inability to buy a jumper, which seems to be an all-or-nothing deal. I don't know why our ENTIRE team hits or NO one hits.

Baron himself was atrocious; 2 asts/4 TO's.

Jack was even worse 1 of 7. I'm assuming he was guarding Maggette, who went nuts from the line. Thats not unusual, either, since he's one of the league leaders in that respect. Shame our first unit didn't buy a clue from h im.

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by OptionZero on Oct 14, 2007 11:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I doubt that

This was just an example for this scenario..playing only two starters with a bunch of rookies and bad players. If the Warriors really wanted to win, they could do what they did in the playoffs which is isolate Baron and Jackson. Yes their offense is the fastbreak and 3point shots, but if that isn't flowing then their post up game is strong, especially posting Baron. It forces the opposite team to double team which leads to open shots. In a game that matters, Nellie has a lot more playbook options and players to work with, he was just testing his new players. Nonetheless, a horrible game.

by Badberto on Oct 15, 2007 12:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Need Better Post Options

Baron and Jax are the best options but they will not carry them through the whole year. You cannot survive with guard post ups. I'd rather see them run the weave anyway than just post Baron and Jax and have everyone else stand around.

Nothing better than "The City".

by philsmith75 on Oct 15, 2007 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But tell me this....

What team looks GOOD when they're playing BAD? I dont think its anything to worry about, just a preseason game without our starters. Every team has an off night here and there. In a regular season game, I highly doubt Nellie would have given Burke and company as much minutes as they played. Chillax folks!

by barojax on Oct 15, 2007 8:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

you're right

but i think the concern stems from the habits (that we saw last year as well) when the team isn't shooting well.

when your shot isn't falling, what you're supposed to do is step up your defense and try to get easy hoops or get to the line.

when you're down big, you want to chip away at the lead and eventually hit "milestones" (under 20, under 15, under 10, under 5).

when faced w/ these problems last year, the dubs answer was to chuck up quick 3's creating easy rebounding opportunities for the opposition.

chucking pull up jumpers early in the shot clock is something you do when your shot is falling. it's not something you do when you're struggling or trying to get hot.

by the evil monkey on Oct 15, 2007 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's discouraging to see...

Dubz fans bummed out over a preseason game that mostly had newbies and bench guys represent while started either had limited playing time minutes or knew how much the game wasn't as important as a regular season game. I've been to a lot of games where they've lost... lost bad, but as mentioned up top, what team looks good playing bad? You win some... you lose some- but ya' play another day. I've been to back to back games where the dubz have lost bad... but I never lost faith- yeah it sucked but I kept my head up. I hate seein' losses like this but you know, it's preseason time, I'll worry more when the season begins. Stay up, don't look down- you don't wanna be seen as a cry baby representing the dubz.

by Tony.psd on Oct 15, 2007 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

i dont think they're worried

b/c of one preseason game. i think they're concerned b/c that one preseason game reminded them of the dubs' bad habits that we saw last year.

I know this may be blasphemy to some, but, b/c he wants to win so badly, I really think sometimes Baron falls into the trap of trying too hard to do it by himself. Kind of a "Kobe Bryant effect" which kind of dominoes to everyone on the team.

by the evil monkey on Oct 15, 2007 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't be too concerned

It's preseason still. I don't think we'll have an 11pt first quarter again.

The only thing I am still concerned about is Stephen Jackson and his turnovers. It's been happening all through training camp.

by gswfanforlife on Oct 15, 2007 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Its Not Being Down on the Ws

I am not discouraged by losing in the preseason, its HOW they lost. If they got steamrolled because the Clippers were hot and on clicking, that's okay. But to just jack up shots, no rebounding, as Jason said, that's a reminder.

More than anything, what I'd like to see is consistency in how they play, whether its the starters or the 2nd or 3rd team. Effort, hustle, taking care of the ball.

Nothing better than "The City".

by philsmith75 on Oct 16, 2007 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs