The Baron Davis sucks diary
No, I'm not joking. And yeah, I'm a Warrior fan. Baron was the reason they lost to the pathetic Clips. Period.
24 FRICKING SHOTS FROM ONE OF THE WORST SHOOTERS ON THE TEAM???
If he could've even hit 30 percent from the 3 line, the Dubs would've been in overtime. (Even if only to watch him hoist up more bricks for the extended period.)
And didn't anyone notice him "take the last shot" at the half, which would've put them ahead going into the locker room? Er, except instead he showed off his handles, and let the shot clock expire.
I don't have the numbers, but anyone who has watched the Dubs over the last few seasons knows, when Baron holds the ball for the "last shot" of the quarter, it's most likely going to clank off a rim, or get stuffed.
Baron is simply NOT a shooter. And he never HAS been. He's always near the bottom of the league in FG% among PGs, and his 3pt shooting has always been embarrassing. So he should go to the rim more and get fouled, you say? He can't shoot free throws either. 68% lifetime.
Bigger teams just pack the middle, and hack every W taking shots in close (because they know even if they get to the line, they'll miss) or force them to shoot from outside (where perentages tell you they miss, and bigger guys are standing there collecting uncontested rebounds).
But Davis BELIEVES he's a shooter. He (and apparently Nelson) BELIEVES he's the best shooter on the team. And so he dominates the shot attempts almost every night. And except on those nights when they accidentally fall for him, the W's are fighting against Baron's averages.
I enjoyed the run at the end of the season. My jaw was on the floor watching them beat Dallas. I couldn't believe my eyes. It wasn't the same team of brick layers I watched all last season. Instead every shot seemed to go in. And the fact is, anybody who watched the NBA all season KNEW they were whipping a BETTER team.
They were the NBA's Colorado Rockies last year.
But that was last year.
Is it possible to be a Warrior's fan and not "believe" this team as currently constructed is a play-off team? I humbly suggest it is.
They're too small (because Nelson either benches or gets rid of big guys) and because they don't have enough high percentage shooters taking shots (KA may be a welcome exception) they can't play "small ball" consistently. With the current recipe they can't win unless at least two guys have crazy. over-their-heads, shooting nights. There's no escaping the numbers on this team.
I'll watch the Warriors because I'm a fan. But even though hope springs eternal, I'll probably find some other things to do in a couple weeks. When they're 2-8.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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It's sad
by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 3, 2007 9:12 AM PDT reply actions
asdajgf
by Nooob on Nov 3, 2007 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
He came down on OZ too
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Some might now see the
Hey
I thought you wouldn't be hanging around here anymore once the season started.
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Hi olympicmike..
I GOT IT NOW!!
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
by Tim N Chris Burger on Nov 4, 2007 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
in agreement
And, Atma, I understand you're trying to manage the tone of the website and the diaries by coming down hard on these 'whiny' titles, but he wouldn't have used the title if our own moderator hadn't used the same title for Nelson.
Tone of site
And I literally ripped OptionZero for doing the same and for the "Pietrus should be shot line". He's since deleted the line about Pietrus and changed the title, so I have to give him his due on that. I'm not trying to have double standards- we have a certain style and class here that I expect EVERYONE to follow. There are no exceptions. If people don't like how we do it here, they're welcome to go somewhere else. This is a family show and a conscious spot. The day it's not those two things is the day I quit.
by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 3, 2007 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Proven fact
who cares?
You and the writer of this diary can't say baron sucks over one game. Frankly, our team is not that good and baron is that good and he felt like he had to do more to win and it just didn't happen for him. If you've ever been a good player at any point in your life in High School or whatever you would understand this.
by Proof on Nov 3, 2007 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
ok?
is latrell sprewell gonna have to choke a b*tch?
by Spree4Threee on Nov 3, 2007 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Shot selection
Additionally, he gives up too easily when his teammates fail to execute plays, and he settles for a 3Per. This was his greatest fault when Monty was around, lack of patience to run the offense, instead choosing to go one v one from the perimeter.
He needs to reign it in one way or the other and the rest of the team needs to move the ball around. There's no point in floor spacing if it's not going to be used.
Questions? Complaints?
(AIM: JetForze; email: Jon.d.ma@gmail.com)
by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Nov 3, 2007 11:01 AM PDT reply actions
Not only that,
I am as powerful as 100 times 100 times 100 times 13 Stilts!
Shot Selection
In the Mike Montgomery days baron was notorius for hoisting fall away threes early in the shot clock. He made about 10% of those. I agree with OZ, Baron's energy level has a lot to do with his shot selection. Also his general health. If he is favoring his bad wheels, he'll take the physically easiest path and jack off-balance threes.
The Warriors are shooting only 30% on all shots outside of the paint. The ONLY way the Warriors win is if they hit 40% of those shots. They're not this bad, but they probably need a couple of more 3-point shooters in reserve.
For the moment these guys are killing themselves outside of the paint:
Baron 2-18, Monta 3-11, Barnes 2-7 and Harrington 1-10.
They HAVE to hit their outside shots.
by San Francisco Slim on Nov 3, 2007 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't suck, he needs more rest
When will Nellie realize that leaving him to suck air on the floor doesn't help in the short run and will be terrible in the long run? He should be limited to 30 min a night. Period. Otherwise, he'll continue to blow games w/crappy shots and will be out for another 20-30 games this season.
asdf
Baron
As for taking the last shot, B.Davis is the ONLY clutch player on this squad.. Remember those game-winning shots against Seattle, Dallas, and Houston?. When Monta hit that game-winner against NJ last year, Baron set him up for it.. I agree that Baron is NOT the best shooter on the team, nor does he take the best shots, but he gets everyone involved (11 ast vs LAC, 10 vs Utah),he probably has the best court IQ in the team, and he usually harasses most other PG's who guard him straight up.
By the way, its only been 2 games into the season.. remember Dallas at the beginning of the season last year? they lost like 4 straight or somethin like that until their first win.. im not saying that the W's will do the same, but until about AT LEAST 10-15 games into the season, ill reserve judgement..
is latrell sprewell gonna have to choke a b*tch?
by Spree4Threee on Nov 3, 2007 11:20 AM PDT reply actions
dallas was
ok
im sure Dallas was also gettin bashed by their fans at the beginning of the season last year..
and i remember two years ago the W's were killin until the about mid December and failed to reach the playoffs that year..
is latrell sprewell gonna have to choke a b*tch?
by Spree4Threee on Nov 3, 2007 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
oh yea
i just mean that with Dallas, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt that they won't suck for 82 games.
The warriors on the other hand are still a mystery.
he needs a different go to shot
by airport son on Nov 3, 2007 11:21 AM PDT reply actions
Rasheed Wallace?
Remember these GW shots?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhsxp9PKUV4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubvPYD8u0Y
not exactly off balance
is latrell sprewell gonna have to choke a b*tch?
by Spree4Threee on Nov 3, 2007 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
No love for Hashweed!?
by airport son on Nov 3, 2007 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
i like rasheed
Rip, B.Wallace, and Prince earned that ring for Detroit just as much Billups or sheed. But that's a different story
is latrell sprewell gonna have to choke a b*tch?
by Spree4Threee on Nov 3, 2007 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he practices that shot alot and it's
Baron
Lazy
Another issue that I see is the lack of trust in his teamates. I think that it's natural this early in the year, with so many new faces and increased rolls for last years bench warmers, no Jack, he's probably feeling a lot of pressure to win these games by himself.
I'm not too worried. This is going to be a tough year early on with Jax out and a very tough schedule. We are all going to have our "end of the world" moments in the next few weeks. Lets just hope they can hang around and stay somewhat competitive until Jax gets back and the team starts to gel.
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my thoughts
Don't taze me bro!
Could Baron's shot selection be better? Sure, but we are talking about the NBA. I have been a Warrior Fan for 30 years, I am telling you from experience that we are way better off at the point than we have been since Tim Hardaway. If I was Baron coming off the season ending run he had last season I would be creating for myself. BTW, we are four hours away from game 3 of the season. If he continues to consistently miss his shots by the All Star break, I will change my name to formerlythecity the Messiah!
by Baron the Messiah on Nov 3, 2007 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
we just don't have the personnel
I'm starting to think the 9-1 run was a fluke.
prove me wrong Dubz, please prove me wrong...
Baron Does Not Suck
I would let him go at the end of the season or the W's should pull off a major trade with another team.
Ballin
off topic...
i gotta go take a cold shower...
by Anomaly on Nov 3, 2007 3:33 PM PDT reply actions
Baron Davis
He isn't going to be shooting like this forever too. When he starts heating up like he did last year he's going to be winning alot of games pretty much on his own and everybody will be singing his praises once again.
Look on the bright side, he's averaging 10 assists/game and 2.3 steals/game; so it's not like he's completely dogging it out there.
Baron Davis is simply THE microcosm of the Golden State Warriors. When he's off, things seem hopeless. But when he's on, he's UNSTOPPABLE BABY!
words of wisdom
Isn't he also
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
by Tim N Chris Burger on Nov 4, 2007 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
thank you
Go back to last year, we wouldn't have made the playoffs or beat the Mavericks if we played the traditional half-court style. We don't have the personnel. So we said screw it, jack up a bunch of threes and play all out, full court D, maybe we'll win, maybe we'll lose, but at least we have a chance. If we played the way everyone else does we'd lose everytime.
We are the Warriors. We got Baron Davis, Nellieball, some big cajones and not a whole lot else. I love and enjoy it. If you don't go root for the Spurs.
by BoomRich on Nov 6, 2007 7:49 AM PST up reply actions

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