Get BD in the All Star Game!!!

by Krossover on Dec 13, 2007 1:20 PM PST

Pre-lim counts are in for the all star ballot and it's not looking that good:

2008 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING WESTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: Carmelo Anthony (Den) 482,127; Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 443,117; Tim Duncan (SA) 423,608; Carlos Boozer (Utah) 175,248; Shawn Marion (Pho) 154,641; Josh Howard (Dal) 146,909; Kevin Durant (Sea) 113,314; Luis Scola (Hou) 101,981; Shane Battier (Hou) 95,757; Grant Hill (Pho) 83,544.

Guards: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 569,302; Tracy McGrady (Hou) 388,959; Steve Nash (Pho) 317,091; Allen Iverson (Den) 292,565; Manu Ginobili (SA) 141,891; Jason Terry (Dal) 121,397; Tony Parker (SA) 117,881; Chris Paul (NO) 110,688; Jerry Stackhouse (Dal) 103,307; Baron Davis (GS) 100,422.

Centers: Yao Ming (Hou) 439,125; Amaré Stoudemire (Pho) 286,401; Erick Dampier (Dal) 101,878; Marcus Camby (Den) 94,473; Pau Gasol (Mem) 73,461; Mehmet Okur (Utah) 51,017; Chris Kaman (LAC) 40,256; LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 35,601; Tyson Chandler (NO) 32,595; Andris Biedrins (GS) 29,026.

Get out and vote...vote everyday!!

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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Erick Dampier??!!!???!!

by belli nellie on Dec 13, 2007 1:34 PM PST reply actions

what in the world?

jerry stackhouse has more votes than baron davis? thats gotta hurt his feelings.

by saintdee on Dec 13, 2007 1:44 PM PST reply actions

wow

that is really sad. we really do need to get Baron into that game.

by Number22Drew on Dec 13, 2007 2:32 PM PST reply actions

Just to let you all know

Certain teams hire people to come in and work for them during this time and do nothing but fill out all star ballots. So if you see some ridiculous player on the top of the lists (Erick Dampier, Luis Scola, Jerry Stackhouse, Shane Battier etc...) you know why. And for the record, I believe that the Rockets are one of the teams that hire people. They have to with those type of numbers..

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by sloth11 on Dec 13, 2007 2:51 PM PST reply actions

and...

The Rockets also have a guy named Yao Ming on their roster who gets a large number of votes for not only himself but also his teammates.

by BingBluNT on Dec 13, 2007 5:39 PM PST up reply actions

Dallas Bias

Jerry Stackhouse ahead of Baron Davis?
Erick Dampier ahead of Camby, Gasol, Kaman, Biedrins, Chandler, Aldridge and Okur?
Jason Terry ahead of Chris Paul, Tony Parker and Baron Davis?
I hope the voting changes; Stackhouse and Dampier shouldn't be anywhere near the All-Star game.

by zaki on Dec 13, 2007 2:53 PM PST reply actions

This

All-star balloting is becoming pathetic.Yi will be an all-star starter for the rest of his career nuff said.

by buky on Dec 13, 2007 3:00 PM PST reply actions

Maybe GSoM

can help by putting a link to the All Star Voting ballot on the front page?

by nautica on Dec 13, 2007 3:27 PM PST reply actions

Not really going to do much

If that does anything at all

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by sloth11 on Dec 13, 2007 3:45 PM PST up reply actions

Im surprised

No Yi?! What happened to all the people in China?

The J-RICH show is on his way out...=(

by dajrichshow on Dec 13, 2007 3:49 PM PST reply actions

Plus

Yi was left off the ballot. I guess the Chinese could still write him in, but he is def not on it.

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by sloth11 on Dec 13, 2007 4:17 PM PST up reply actions

wait a minute..

can we get the official source for your post? How do we know these are the legit vote count? You could be making it all up.

by saintdee on Dec 13, 2007 4:40 PM PST reply actions

look

in RealGM.

by jtoj on Dec 13, 2007 7:27 PM PST up reply actions

lol

My bad, not thinking clearly.

The J-RICH show is on his way out...=(

by dajrichshow on Dec 13, 2007 5:13 PM PST reply actions

my bad...

I should have posted a link. non-the-less, i got it right off NBA.COM.

http://www.nba.com//allstar_firstreturns_071213.html?rss=true

We're Golden!

by Krossover on Dec 13, 2007 8:59 PM PST reply actions

WOW

!@##@!#!@#!@%#$^% ^@$^%$#%#$$!@#%^$!!!!!!!!!!
Stackhouse sucks!!!!! What we need to do is sign TV contracts with ESPN and TNT so the whole country can watch us. Thats the problem. Not enough national exposure.

i hope we win a championship soon

by Da Jrich tribute on Dec 13, 2007 9:00 PM PST reply actions

WOW

i hope we win a championship soon

by Da Jrich tribute on Dec 13, 2007 9:00 PM PST reply actions

did

anyone hear gsw hater himself charles barkley on tnt inside the nba say he wants stephen jackson to be in the all star game!

What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 13, 2007 10:54 PM PST reply actions

its just

a pain in the ass to log in and vote every day. i wish there was a hack to that. i a sure there is, anyone know the way?

by baller90210 on Dec 13, 2007 11:23 PM PST reply actions

The categories are lame

The three real, distinguishable positions in basketball are not guard-forward-center but point guard-wing player-big man. If they realigned the categories to these, we'd avoid idiocy like Duncan trying to figure out what position he is, and Baron having to compete with Kobe and McGrady. I mean, it's hard enough to compete CP3, AI, Nash, and Deron...

There's a legitimate case to be made that Baron is the only the 3rd best point guard in the conference, but it's absurd to think that Carmelo Freaking Anthony and Dirk Freaking Nowitzki deserve to be there above him. Yes, I know it's about popularity, not "deserving," but realigning the categories would make total miscarriages of justice less likely.

What is it, 12 guys? Perfect, four per category:

Points: Baron, Nash, Paul, Iverson (sorry, Deron and TP)
Wings: Kobe, Ginobili, Marion, McGrady (screw Dirk and Carmelo)
Bigs: Duncan, Boozer, Amare, Camby

by Sleepy Freud on Dec 13, 2007 11:52 PM PST reply actions

Whoops

Forgot Yao. Throw him on there instead of Camby or Amare.

by Sleepy Freud on Dec 13, 2007 11:54 PM PST up reply actions

makes alot of sense to me

by jlagace on Dec 14, 2007 5:19 AM PST up reply actions

Well...

It would also make sense if teams could not hire people to vote all day, but they can (apparently). The NBA All-Star game is an exhibition for the fans. It is not an exhibition of the best basketball players in the league.

The NFL All Star game is an afterthought because it's after the season (nobody would be willing to risk the injury during the season). The NHL doesn't matter anymore (did it ever). The MLS doesn't matter yet. And the MLB All-Star game has the same problem as the NBA: Bigger fanbase = more all stars. I say problem because an "All-Star" game should be the best players. If it's going to be a popularity contest, call it the "NBA Favorites", "Players from Teams with Money to Spend on Voters", or "Players with the Biggest Fanbases". But then the NBA wouldn't make as much money. See, it all comes down to $$$$. If you want Baron in the game, spend some cash and convince others to spend their cash.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 14, 2007 7:16 AM PST up reply actions

Agreed

The thing is, I don't want Baron in the game. I'd much rather he and his knees get a nice 4-5 day rest.

The basic point about the stupidity of the categories stands. I wonder what Tim Duncan thinks about the fact that the #1 player in the West "at his position" is Carmelo Anthony.

by Sleepy Freud on Dec 14, 2007 8:01 AM PST up reply actions

how does it work again?

Starters are voted in by the fans then the bench is voted by the Coaches or Media or both?

We're Golden!

by Krossover on Dec 14, 2007 8:17 AM PST reply actions

asdf

The coaches vote in the bench.

by Psion on Dec 14, 2007 10:36 AM PST up reply actions

ya

We shouldn't really care that much about the votes because there's no way Baron's getting voted ahead of Kobe or T-Mac. Votes decide the starting five and then it's up to the coaches. If we continue to win Baron will definitely get in; if we slow down and have a mediocre record then it's up to luck with all the great players he's competing against; and if we have a losing record then Baron has no chance.

I like JVG's idea of expanding the rosters to 15 players. Yes, there will always be debate no matter how large the rosters are, but 12 is just too small of a roster since we end up almost arbitrarily leaving players out that have very similar credentials. After the top 15 there will be a larger gap between the players that get in and the players that don't.

It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 15, 2007 4:58 AM PST up reply actions

All-Star status

It is a popularity contest, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Identifying the best players in the league is what the "All-NBA" first and second teams are all about.

People vote to see who they want to see in the All-Star game, and that's all All-Star players should get credit for.

The connotations that go along with being an "All-Star" need to change though. It doesn't mean you're the best, it means you're the most popular. NBA Analysts can't say "well so-and-so was 6-time AllStar" because it doesn't mean crap, really.

by jlagace on Dec 14, 2007 5:10 PM PST reply actions

+1

by Sleepy Freud on Dec 14, 2007 7:06 PM PST up reply actions

jhfg

i dunno about anyone else, but my ballots have almost all current and former warriors. really, if Davis gets in that's great, but if he doesn't, at least he gets to rest his legs for a while. I guess this falls under the whole "it's an honor just to be nominated" category.

by exl on Dec 15, 2007 7:25 AM PST reply actions