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OPEN THREAD: Game #24- Warriors @ Pistons

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Warriors (W-L): 13-10
Pistons (W-L): 16-7
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Radio: KNBR 680

The Warriors ended a painful losing streak to Ebok and the Lakers on Friday night on national TV. Baron stole the show with his heroic, uh-I-can't-believe-he's-taking-that-shot-- HELLYEAH!, booming trey and blew kisses to the Roaracle crowd as the Warriors finished off the Fakers.

Make the jump for a preview of Sunday morning's away game...



Update: Warriors lose a "close one" 87-109.
Final Boxscore

Stay tuned for the recap...

Star-divide

On Sunday morning the Warriors take on the Detroit Pistons in front of the most barbaric fans in the league. If I was commish after that Palace Brawl I'd ban this sorry suburban city from ever hosting another NBA game again. I'm not pointing the finger at urban Detroit here, I'm pointing the finger at the most likely reasonably wealthy barbarians in the lower bowl. We're not talking about one or two dumb, obnoxious fans- hey even the great Roaracle Arena crowd has a few of those- I'm talking about the masses of losers who should be in jail.

Well Stephen Jackson's back and if those losers try anything stupid again hopefully Commissioner Stern will quit focusing on dumb policies and instead move the Pistons away from these barbarians. It's disturbing that still to this day Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson are painted as the sole criminals seemingly every time the national mainstream media brings up the brawl, but they never seem to bring up these barbarians in the stands (not to say that Artest and Jackson were angels that night either). They also fail to bring up incidents like a member of the Auburn Hills barbarians throwing change from the stands at then 76er Allen Iverson just a few weeks later. The rhetoric of "players getting into fights with fans" is disturbing as well. It's as if being a fan justifies idiocy, makes the fans the good guys/ victims, and absolves them of any blame for their actions. How about we call it players getting into fights with barbarians? Seems more fitting.

It's really too bad that these barbarians have been treated to a very solid team that's gone to the Eastern Conference Finals 5 straight season. They don't deserve this squad. They've done a huge disservice to the rest of the league and their foolishness is arguably what enabled the NBA's front office to justify such silliness as the NBA's dress code and zero tolerance rule with refs who don't exactly have squeaky clean records themselves. Just like those losers in Salt Lake City proved during last season's snoring and boring Western Conference Finals, the NBA has a fan problem.

On to the game (as I duck from all the flying objects and beer that the barbarians are trying to hurl at me from their keyboards)...

Despite only being 3 games over .500 the Warriors are a very hot team having gone 7-3 in their last 10 games. However the Pistons are even hotter and have been playing very good basketball thus far this season. They're currently at 16-7 and have won 8 out of there past 10 games. Even if you plucked this squad out of the Leastern Conference and plugged them into the Wessyde this is still a very good ball club. They're loaded up front with depth (Rasheed Wallace, Antonio McDyess, Jason Maxiell, and Amir Johnson) and have one of the league's best back courts in Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton. Throw in glue guy Tayshaun Prince and it's no wonder why this team has had so much success over the years. Their recent trade with the Charlotte BETcats to bring on Primoz Brezec and Walter Herrmann was interesting. I'm curious to see how that plays out for them. Actually I'm more curious to see which of these guys blows up for a career game against the Warriors either Sunday or some time in the near future.

You really have to wonder how good this roster would be if Joe Dumars and the rest of the Pistons front office didn't make one of the worst draft selections of all time in Darko Miličić over big names like Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, and Josh Howard. They would arguably be much better off had they selected Chris Kaman, Kirk Hinrich, T.J. Ford, or David West too. That was a colossal mistake that arguably cost this team a dynasty. Still, Dumars and his gang are some of the best in the business and play to win the game now, instead of building for some silly, mythical bright future that keeps many GMs their job while they frantically search for a clue.

Right now I'd call them a shoo-in for a Eastern Conference Finals date with the Boston Collusion, but are they a shoo-in to beat the We're Back Warriors Sunday morning in front of the barbarians?

Last year the Warriors delightfully blew out the Pistons twice. Despite still having Murphleavy and Dunmurphy (sorry, that doesn't make any sense, but for some odd reason it cracks me up), the Dubs dominated the Pistons at home in the Roaracle back in early November 2006. Then the Warriors snapped an ugly 6 game losing streak that had us thinking ping pong balls x13 in Detroit on a fine Monday in March. That game of course proved to be historic as it began the We Believe Warriors' 16-5 run and path towards shocking the world. Good times.

Unfortunately when the Warriors played the Pistons pre-Jack earlier this season they blew a whopping 22 point lead at home. As that game illustrated the Warriors can win a foot race with the Pistons any day of the week, but savvy, patience, and smarts trumps that any day.

Let's get this W and try to escape from here without any violent outbursts from the classless Auburn Hills crowd.

For some classy Pistons' fans thoughts on Deeeetroit basketball and more check out Detroit Bad Boys and Need4Sheed.com

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Tony.psd making the collabos happen!

Predictions

  • Warriors by 1
  • Boom Dizzle goes for a triple double.
  • Warriors win the battle of the boards by... -10.
  • At least 2 Pistons get double doubles in points and boards.
  • Matt Barnes plays a great all around game and collects at least 10-5-5.
  • If they get to play Primoz Brezec and Walter Herrmann look much better than they are.
  • No loser Pistons fan at the Palace of Auburn Hills does anything stupid. Well actually let me qualify that- no loser Pistons fan tries to provoke any violence with a Warrior player today.
  • Stephen Jackson gets a tech and I crack up.
  • Rasheed Wallace gets a tech and I crack up.
  • If the Warriors lose I spend the first paragraph of the recap writing about how dumb the league is for having a West Coast team play their first game on the road at 9:30am on a Sunday.

Drop your predictions and live game thoughts in the comments. Let's get this open thread poppin'!

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sigh
not the Warriors by 1 prediction

by Number22Drew on Dec 15, 2007 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

pistons
they have been playing really good ball as of late, were gonna have to keep jason maxiell off the boards to win tomorrows game though. i agree with your last statement, 9: 30 AM PST is way too early to wake up on a sunday, let alone play an NBA game.

Double-Double for AB if he stays outta foul trouble.

GO DUBS!

by DubsFanInDallas on Dec 15, 2007 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

Atma
@ least people in Europe like me can watch this game in normal time 7:30PM
-this game is on Latvian national TV again (previous was with Toronto)

lol -first time saw that some one in US can write Miličič right -maybe you can write Biedriņš too

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Dec 15, 2007 8:40 PM PST reply actions  

Since when
are if statements allowed in predictions?

by racsan on Dec 15, 2007 11:47 PM PST reply actions  

Dubs
err, gonna be a tough one tomorrow.

BEST OF LUCK to the dubs

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 12:20 AM PST reply actions  

I hope our guys put a whoopin' on the Pistons.
That lead we blew against them in out first meeting still haunts me. I'm upset just thinking about it.

by Jeremy Belvins on Dec 16, 2007 12:32 AM PST reply actions  

Honestly,
I just don't like how it looks.  A 9:30 start time.  I bet they come out half-sleep.  If the dubs win this one, its gonna be by skin of their teeth.  This might be a clone of W's v Lakeshow 2 or W's v Miami or even W's v Orlando.

I just hope our guys don't get blown out.

Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Dec 16, 2007 12:52 AM PST reply actions  

looking at the Pistons roster...
I think they have a squad that fits don nelson's ideal for nellie ball.

-Big guards
-4 players with 3pt range
-All are above avg 1on1 defenders
-Post season Exp.

Think about it...

Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Dec 16, 2007 9:42 AM PST reply actions  

Pistons telecast
reports Warriors had a 7:30 wake up call for this day game. That's 4:30 Pacific. Ouch. Let's hope we're not jet-lagged here.
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

ya this doesn't feel like an NBA game
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

argh
fouling a jump shooter...

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

Harrington is so bad at taking charges
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

harrington
is an inept shotblocker and doesn't even try to swat a shot

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

where is the crowd?
wow this is the quietest game i've heard in a while!

by YaoButtaMing on Dec 16, 2007 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

ya not very "barbaric"
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Sleepin' in...
Looks like they ALL hit the snooze button.
Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Dec 16, 2007 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone notice
THat dubs didn't make 1 substitution yet.
Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Dec 16, 2007 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

hard to believe that was a foul
Maxiel had the ball down and was looking the other way...
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

lol Pistons announcer...
"gotta do something to slow Stephen Jackson down. Maybe a timeout's the answer!"
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 10:12 AM PST reply actions  

if
if they're gonna ref like that we can't play defense

shoot

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

pg!
with a lazy lob pass not over the top

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

quick question
are you allowed to move up if there is no one within 3 rows from you? I see some people sitting way up there when there is clearly no one in the lower bowls.

by saintdee on Dec 16, 2007 10:15 AM PST reply actions  

Allowed?
"Allowed"? I know I do it all the time at the roaracle. It just takes a little skill with the apathetic ticket checker. I just walk in with a beer in one hand, a hot-dog in the other, and say "I'm just coming back." I've never had the dude insist on me putting down my food to get out my ticket.

Anyway, those rich lite-core fans who bought lower-bowl season tickets during the playoff run don't even bother to sell the seats for the games they don't go to. That's why you almost always see open seats on the telecasts in the first 20 rows. $200 seats baby!

"SCARY HOT!"

by Talimon on Dec 16, 2007 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I love when Monta
single-handedly gets it done when our offense is struggling
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

Mbenga... terrible
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

and
...misses both free throws

bangs head on wall

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

WHAT THE
hell is mbenga doing

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

Too early
MAN THIS IS NOT FAIR. WHO THE HECK SCHEDULED THIS GAME? mORONS
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

PIETRUS
HORRIblE SHOT

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:30 AM PST reply actions  

Pietrus
on a big slump, sucking big time
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 10:30 AM PST reply actions  

dude
we're gonna lose the game because of the turnover margin

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

not creating any to's and missing our 3's
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 10:35 AM PST reply actions  

drive g-d it, DRIVE!
too many stand still 3s & not enough playmaking/drive&kick or drive&dish

broken record (sigh)

by hardcore on Dec 16, 2007 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

man
we can't do crap on either end of the court

there's no energy on defense, we're 1 step slow

on offense we can't get out of our own way with turnovers or missed 3's and nothing in between

they might as well have stayed in bed

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

awesome
clank, clank, clank, clank
I love Todd Fuller

by Yayo87 on Dec 16, 2007 10:42 AM PST reply actions  

W's still asleep
horrible scheduling.
Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious.

by Kobe on Dec 16, 2007 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

Terrible end to the first half
It's going to be hard in the second to get back into this one now.

by zaki on Dec 16, 2007 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

Nellie
Is probably thinking about his first beer at this point...maybe they will crack a case in the locker room and loosen up

by belli nellie on Dec 16, 2007 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

next time
if they aren't gonna bother showing up, just let us know in advance

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

I can tell we already will have a much
better half. Just because of the way Baron's playing D
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

nice prediction gsw4life
thanks
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Play some D
they need to play D and go on a run something like 10-2
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 11:01 AM PST reply actions  

OH god
nevermind, we are going down bad. 13-11 record, write it down
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 11:05 AM PST reply actions  

ejection
i forsee someone getting frustrated and getting 2 technicals and getting the boot.

ps: fsn can you PLEASE get rid of those stupid NBA LIVE 08 (w/ amare) and the Simpsons movie ads in the bottom left corner. ty in advance

by InNellie WeTrust on Dec 16, 2007 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

belinelli point guard..
hmmm all we need in this lineup is POB
Mike Dunleavy Jr's #1 FAN!!! (really)

by s0lefulwarrior on Dec 16, 2007 11:13 AM PST reply actions  

Don't forget
ya don't forget THUD
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

POB
That's exactly what I was thinking.  Why doesn't Nellie play him??  If he puts in Thud I'm turning off the TV and going shopping.

by centerre on Dec 16, 2007 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

wow the 3rd string comes up with a quick 7-0 run
B Wright is gonna be good
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Dec 16, 2007 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

lmao this is funny I LOVE THE JIM BARRNET JINX
he says rasheed will get a T-foul and he does XD
he should do that more often

by 8monta on Dec 16, 2007 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

wow
our future on display. wright's long reach bats out a rebound and bellinelli hits a three on the same play!

by pree t zinta on Dec 16, 2007 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

I'll say
after that last

Chaaannnncceeeee B - B - B - Billups

I muted the sound on the TV

by centerre on Dec 16, 2007 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

A mini run cut short
I thought we could cut it to 13 for the 4th

by belli nellie on Dec 16, 2007 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

yea but hey they still did good XD
Jim Barrent should jinx them more often

by 8monta on Dec 16, 2007 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

So I am at work...
...and just have to ask since I can't watch the game...what the heck happened? Is it because the game is so early? No energy or what? Just plain not hitting shots?

by Golden Gate Warrior on Dec 16, 2007 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

hehe
The oracle was still sleeping, warriors didn't get a chance to talk to her.
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

i guess someone will have to spend their
first paragraph writing about early basketball games

by 8monta on Dec 16, 2007 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

UGLY
man if this was in the evening time or on national tv (like vs lakers) i almost assure you that we would have seen a diff result. damn this loss is so UGLY for us. This road trip is going to be a long one.. sigh
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Road trip
I'm confident that it'll still be a good road trip. We could easily go 3-2,and possibly 4-1 if we can pull one out in Cleveland.

by WarriorForLife on Dec 16, 2007 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Croshere
has never made a dunk. He always get fouled/rejected.

by curtischin on Dec 16, 2007 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

"Never"...?
"SCARY HOT!"

by Talimon on Dec 16, 2007 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh well
Not a great game but at least the 2nd team got some burn.

by curtischin on Dec 16, 2007 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

True
At least Wright scored 10 and pulled down 4 boards. Him and Bellinelli shot 50%. A little confidence boost?

by fryan on Dec 16, 2007 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

In all seriousness...
It was fun watching our rooks play, but in the end it felt like a pre-season game.

I don't see why Nelly didn't take this game seriously. Even though it didn't seem as important as our intense win against the LA Fakers, in the end a game is a game. Hopefully the rest of our road trip doesn't look like this.

Mike Dunleavy Jr's #1 FAN!!! (really)

by s0lefulwarrior on Dec 16, 2007 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

Wright
Should have gotten some burn with the first team.
This was a sucky game today.I sure hope we make the Grizzlies pay for this one.

by highflya on Dec 16, 2007 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

Disappointing Result...
But it just wasn't our day today and it was tough to come to Detroit on a Sunday Morning (for the players) after a tiring 108-106 win over the Lakers. I still think we can have a good road trip - we should win 3 or our next 4 - New Jersey and Memphis are playing badly and although the T'Wolves are improving, we should still beat them. Cleveland is tough now Lebron's back but we have a chance - I predict a 3-2 road trip.

The game was almost over at half-time and Nellie gave the 2nd team some playing time. It was good to see them play a bit and they did ok, Croshere played well and knocked down some free-throws. Wright and Belinelli were our only players to have a positive +/- stat and they both shot 50% from the field as well as getting 5 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block between them.

by zaki on Dec 16, 2007 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

baron
Baron paid the price for his nat'l TV glory

a craptastic performance the next game

24 > 23

WE NEED A BACKUP POINT GUARD

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 16, 2007 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

given away game
not awful -just given away (awful was with Portland)
i liked to see full second team
DJ made a jumper
Belinelly made some 3s

maybe it must be so -game tomorrow is more important
W's tried
but then used this game in best possible way

tnx Nellie for not put some thud bunny on court

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Dec 16, 2007 2:10 PM PST reply actions  

T-hud
was he put on the inactive list because of some kind of injury or sickness? or did Nelly just feel as if it was time to give some pt to the rookies?
Mike Dunleavy Jr's #1 FAN!!! (really)

by s0lefulwarrior on Dec 16, 2007 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

Man, I HATE WHEN I'M RIGHT
Sorry, guys this one was my fault. Every time I feel bad about an upcoming game and post it, the dubs get drubbed.  I'm gonna keep my nasty predictions to myself from now on.
Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Dec 16, 2007 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

some positives
there's not many from this game but i've got 2:
  1. the starters got a lot of rest for tomorrow
  2. the rookies got some burn and played pretty well

by AJC3317 on Dec 16, 2007 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

Grizz
i hope we do better tomorrow. Mike miller always gives dubs hard time. It is going to interesting how they are gonna play the grizz. Hopefully they don't come out flat like today.

GO WARRIORS

brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 16, 2007 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

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