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Opting Out of the All-Star Game

The first All-Star votes are in and the Warriors are dead last.  I couldn't be happier.  The NBA regularly salutes Warriors' fans as the league's finest.  A large part of the reason why is because we understand what's important in the game.  We cheer louder for court burns than we do free t-shirts.  And we don't waste our time stuffing the ballot box for a global marketing beauty pageant.  All the beauty we need is being delivered nightly from the fingertips of men five men on the court, thrilled to be identified not for their individual vote counts, but for what they do together as Warriors.

Star-divide

Jerry Stackhouse ahead of Baron Davis?  Erick Dampier pulling down four times as many votes as Andris Biedrins?  Dirk Nowitzki leaving Stephen Jackson in the dust?  Fine by me.  All the All-Star appearances in the world won't erase from Dirk's memory what Jax did to him last May.  And I'm pretty sure that Stephen wouldn't trade his barrage of three pointers in Game 6 for a trip to New Orleans this year.  Why should he?  The type of rapture shared between players and fans in Oakland that night hasn't been found at the All-Star Game for a long time, if ever.  So given that our synapses are a little numb from an overdose of glorious basketball after years of neglect, its perfectly understandable that Warriors fans couldn't care less about hanging chads in David Stern's annual election.  

In my experience there are three types of players that snag All-Star votes.  The first are the global brands.  The LeBrons, Kobes, KGs, and Yaos.  They get votes from across the league (and world) because they're the players people will pay to see.  If you're going to have an All-Star game, it should be filled with these types of players.  The second category covers the international niche stars.  If anyone from Turkey votes, it's a safe bet Hedo's getting their support.  The same rules likely apply for Yao and Yi.  I have no beef with these votes.  The NBA is an international game and anything that brings more of that flavor into the mix should be encouraged.  It's the third category where I have a problem.  Let's call these the "compensation" votes.  Jason Terry?  Shane Battier?  Jerry Stackhouse?  These are guys who, based upon their play, have no right entering the state of Louisiana on All-Star Weekend.  But come early December fans of the Mavs and Rockets seem to have made voting early and often for their players, no matter how mediocre, a rally cry.  It's a bit like "We Believe," except replace the monumental goal of the first playoff appearance in 13 years with a meaningless exhibition game and the grass-roots movement of t-shirts and signs with empty corporate gestures.  I'm no doctor - and I certainly don't pretend to know what goes on in the minds of many Texans - but it seems to me that such fervent devotion to casting All-Star votes may closely correlate with dashed expectations in games that actually matter.  If you're increasingly having trouble finding something to cheer for in the games that count, you might as well try your hardest to cheer for your players in one that doesn't.  

Ultimately, when stuffing the ballot isn't voter fraud, voting is a fraud.  It's no great insight that the All-Star game is nothing more than a popularity contest.  The absence of Warriors on the list seems to suggest, however, that it's a measure of a certain type of popularity.  Warriors fans love their players as much as any NBA fanbase at the moment.  But because we love them for what they do as a team - and how all the crazy, diverse, and rebellious personalities come together to form something greater than the parts - we can't really be bothered to send them individually to the All-Star game.  I don't need to see Baron catch a sloppy pass from Tracy McGrady, then blow by non-existent defense by Shaq.  I'd rather see Baron resting his beaten body on a beach for a few days away from the sharp elbows and rough landings of NBA competition.  In that spirit, if you must vote, I recommend a straight ticket of Utah Jazz.  We'll be seeing them Tuesday February 19, two days after the festivities in New Orleans.  I'd hate for Boozer to be tired.

Read Adam regularly at Fast Break, the San Jose Mercury News' Warriors Fan Blog.

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the all star game voting is ridiculous but i'd still love to see a Warrior in the all star game

by Number22Drew on Dec 18, 2007 12:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant
"Ultimately, when stuffing the ballot isn't voter fraud, voting is a fraud"
Thats deep..

Hey maybe Bukie gets in on the sophmore game.

by highflya on Dec 18, 2007 12:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Completely forgot about that
He better be in there. He most definately deserves it
My pictures never show up here, so this is my new Signature

by sloth11 on Dec 18, 2007 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm excited for the Kevin Durant show!
He'll take 35 shots, score 35 points and win the "Best Player" award.

Yeah, Buki will be there, has to be.  PoB?  Not so much.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 18, 2007 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.
The whole process is a joke. However, that doesn't take away from the fact that I would love to see one of our own in the game. It's just team pride.

by danschmeck on Dec 18, 2007 1:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

fans shouldn't be able to vote
Similar to the MLB All-Star game, there has to be some intelligence test before letting people vote. A popularity contest isn't what it should be, but it's just entertainment... so I have no preference

by PHUT! on Dec 18, 2007 1:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

you know
that there's a whole bunch of guys who are on this site all the time that log in and vote for JRich to be in the AllStar game, though he isn't even a Warrior anymore.  
The anonymity of the voting process allows for emotional voting, rather than honest assessment of value and talent.
As has been said before, the interesting thing will be if Popovich or D'Antoni names BDiddy to the team as a reserve.  It sure seems like the guy has earned it, but there is a lot of competition out west.

by panhandlelegend on Dec 18, 2007 2:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would hate to be Stackhouse or Dampier
if they somehow end up in the all-star game. I mean, it'll be really awkward if they get in. Watch the introduction be like, your Western All-Stars... Kobe Bryant! Tracy Mcgrady! Jerry Stackhouse???

by lightz0ut on Dec 18, 2007 4:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

yknow what?
go bells.

by ArtestJackson08 on Dec 18, 2007 4:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

eh
the voting favors popularity.  period.  we are in a small sports market, so we suffer.  it doesn't make the process a fraud - it is honestly a reflection of how many NBA fans support each player.  anyone can stuff the ballot - back in the late 1980s, i remember submitting hundreds of ballots filled with votes for the Oakland A's - and that was before electronic ballots.  

we are used to the electoral college and parity among the states, but that's not the NBA.  the all-star game is a popularity contest and, well, we don't have individually popular players.

that said, i'd like to see b-diddy get in there, but  he probably needs to have a few great seasons in a row before he really gets noticed.

by OaktownWarrior on Dec 18, 2007 5:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

wha..?
"we're a small sports market" ?

Why then do we have two baseball teams and two football teams 30 minutes apart? I wouldn't say we have a smaller sports market than a lot of teams sending players. I think the issue isn't so much how many warriors fans there are, but rather how many actually bother to vote. The All-Star game is something of a joke, which isn't to say that the players don't have a good time, but I don't think most fans bother to think much about it.

"SCARY HOT!"

by Talimon on Dec 19, 2007 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Baron
Would class up the joint

by belli nellie on Dec 18, 2007 8:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

qua?
The second category covers the international niche stars.  If anyone from Turkey votes, it's a safe bet Hedo's getting their support.  The same rules likely apply for Yao and Yi.  I have no beef with these votes.  The NBA is an international game and anything that brings more of that flavor into the mix should be encouraged.  It's the third category where I have a problem.

I don't see the difference here.  Voting for someone because they are YOUR nationality doesn't seem any different to me than voting for someone because they are YOUR team.  Either way it's a light form of jingoism and xenophobia.  Of course, I have issues in electoral politics with identity voting based on religious values, or even party affiliation.  

Of course, I haven't been able to handle the US coverage of the Olympics over the last 20 years either.  The beauty of sports is that the favored, the powerful, and the recognized can be defeated by unknown upstarts.  The NBA All Star Game, like the Olympics, indeed resembles a stupid American Idol show or something on the E channel.  

by jakarta on Dec 18, 2007 8:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, sort of
Jakarta - You make a good point and it's one that I weighed in considering that group of players.  You're right that it is international identity-based voting.  I'm not crazy about it, but at this stage I think it's good for the game.  As the NBA fights for attention in countries like Turkey, Spain, or even China, drawing in fans through All-Star voting seems like a good way to broaden the sport's appeal.  And a lot of the international viewers only have a chance to see their home-country players in action on a regular basis.  People in Dallas and Houston?  No such excuses.  

If you really want an All-Star game (I could live without one), I'd be interested in seeing one based on player votes with no position restraints.  Just have guys rank the 15 best players not on their team in their conference, then the 5 best coaches.  Add up the votes and throw the guys out on the court with a head coach.  From a pure basketball standpoint, it would be a lot more interesting.  

by Adam Lauridsen on Dec 18, 2007 9:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK
If you really want an All-Star game (I could live without one), I'd be interested in seeing one based on player votes with no position restraints.  Just have guys rank the 15 best players not on their team in their conference, then the 5 best coaches.  Add up the votes and throw the guys out on the court with a head coach.  From a pure basketball standpoint, it would be a lot more interesting.

I'd enjoy your idea.  Heck, I'd watch it.  I long ago stopped watching All-Star weekend, so I am out of touch with whether or not my dampened enthusiasm is mirrored widely among other fans.  I do know that Bill Simmons has taken many shots over the last few years at the NBA for its All-Star intransigence.  But I don't know whether Stern views this as a problem or not.

by jakarta on Dec 18, 2007 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Represent!
what ever the case, it'd still be nice to have the Warriors represented in the all star game.   Look at it as our player, be it BD, Jack or Biedrins, as being the embassador for our team in recognition of what the Warriors have to offer.  When's the last time we had someone in the all-star game other than Monte in the rookie/sophmore game?
We're Golden!

by Krossover on Dec 18, 2007 9:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Correct me if I'm Wrong But...
Don't the fans vote only on the starters? And the reserves are chosen by head coaches around the league? If that is true, then at least 1 warrior should make it. Who cares if you start or not, as long as you there that is all that matters. Baron will prolly get voted by the coaches because of how clutch he is and how much he affects the outcomes of some many close games.

by celicadriven27 on Dec 18, 2007 9:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Represent
I'm tired of hearing how great and loyal the Dubs fans are. Hear me out on this. Before last year, you had a small, but die-hard contingent of Warriors fans.

They were loud enough, but if the Kings came into town still in the playoff hunt, you know they're getting the majority of the cheers (despite my "Bibby sucks" chant).

Even last year with the small-ball frenetic style of play, the crowd was good, but still didn't believe.

That first round was amazing and the crowd did help out. But how many of those cats were bandwagoners?

I was at the Warriors/Lakers game last Friday. Half the lower bowl was empty by half time, and the Lakers decidedly had half the crowd until the fourth.

"seems to me that such fervent devotion to casting All-Star votes may closely correlate with dashed expectations in games that actually matter"

Yeah man. 1 playoffs in 13 years. Don't try and act like this team is too concerned with winning rings.

by Marinman on Dec 18, 2007 10:34 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

re:represent
im tired of hearing all this talk about die hard fans vs bandwagon fans.  who cares. i myself, started cheering for the warriors when i started playing 4th grade cyo in the city in early 90s.  does that make a difference? no.  Fans are Fans regardless of when they begin cheering for the Warriors.  I doubt anyone of us were born Warriors Fans.  

As for the lakers game, i was lucky enough to have suite tickets and the lower bowl didnt look empty at all.  There were a lot of lakers fans and the crowd didnt really come alive til the 4th, but you have to understand that not only do the players feed off the crowd, the crowd feeds off the players.  Any time we made a small run, the lakers stopped that momentum which kept the crowd in check.  However, the crowd came alive when it mattered in the 4th and you know what happened.  

Don't try and act like your better than other fans just because you're a "die hard fan."

by jngai on Dec 18, 2007 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

welcome to the world of sports my friend....
....die hard fans or bandwagon fans, they still remain fans.  If you feel the need to justify yourself as a "die-hard" fan by bashing passive fans well then, that's your perogative....whatever makes you sleep better at night.  I say, just have fun with it and let eveyone enjoy the ride.....the more the merrier!  Go Warriors!
We're Golden!

by Krossover on Dec 18, 2007 11:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
not all fans go to games .....
and if you havent noticed alot of people dont like traffic
if you live near here you would noe

by 8monta on Dec 18, 2007 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thats a shame..
... have to be grasping for straws with this article. I'm even embarrased to be a fan now.. wow... shame on you for writing this! WOW!

by advaldez on Dec 18, 2007 11:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What this means is:
That the Warriors are not well liked around NBA fandom. This IS a popularity contest after all. And while the Texas players are being touted as an example of what is wrong, consider that the Dallas Mavericks have never had a player voted to the all star team except by the coaches as reserves.

by cosmicc on Dec 18, 2007 11:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Gimmick
Notice: the best PG in the league isn't a starter at the moment .. he's behind Tracy McICan'tGetOutOfTheFirstRound. We all know this voting is silly and stupid - for Chrissakes, Gilbert Arenas is ahead of Chauncey Billups!

The game is designed to sell you things like Lenovo fridges and T-Mobile handheld devices. Taking it for anything more than that - such as respect or a representation of a team's fanbase is silly.

by pree on Dec 18, 2007 12:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Idea
Why not make some of you signs available (on the cheap, please?) in the GSoM store?

There's no reason McGrady's next trop to the roaracle, if they come back this year, shouldn't be met by a hundred of these signs...

by BingBluNT on Dec 18, 2007 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL... believe me...
I tried getting a lot of my signs on my tony.psd store... and sad 2 say it got me into a lot of trouble with legal  advisors on both ends questioning all of my work and getting the NBA to drop my designs from my store... it was an experience that was too much for me to handle... and almost got me into some serious lawsuits... 1 thing I got out of it was a lot of info concerning copyright infringements... esp on how tough the NBA is... they're like the mafia of trademark jacking!

and on that note... it isn't too late to stuff GSoM gear under the tree!

http://www.zazzle.com/goldenstateofmind

by Tony.psd on Dec 18, 2007 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"on the cheap"
Sorry man I just find that really disrespectful. Tony.psd is a professional artist and puts in a ton of hard work and dedication into making all this happen. He shouldn't have to sell his work "on the cheap". The good man is already making next to nothing on the GSoM Store 2.0 products just so we could lower the costs as much as possible for the larger community. Note that we aren't using profits from the store for the initial launch to add to the GSoM season ticket fund or donate to a charity either.

It's honestly not easy for independent artists and media like GSoM to stay afloat. This is all done for the love of the game.

by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 18, 2007 3:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No disrespect intended
This site remains one of the only blogs i visit on a daily basis because of its dedication to stay true to the fans.  Nothing that the Golden State of Mind has done would lead me to believe that the site won't stay that way.

Having said that, I don't see how my comment was offensive in anyway.  My point was that if it was easy for people to buy something as original and dope as the "2nd Round Virgin" sign, then said virgin would be met with a barrage of them next time he came to Oakland.  I fail to see how that doesn't fit right into the GSoM's expertise in contributing to the notorious roaracle crowd.  

I was also half-joking though, and did not actually expect for this sign or other masterpieces to become available for purchase.  Nor do I expect Tony or any of you to sacrifice your jobs or families for a professional sports team, even if they are the on and only warriors.

That is all.

by BingBluNT on Dec 18, 2007 11:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares
As long as we are winning and are in the top half of the NBA, I could care less if some of our players get snubbed from All Star Weekend.  Like many have said, its all a popularity contest.  We all know that Nash, CP3, Derron Williams and Baron are the best PG's in the West.  Will all 4 of them make it, no, should they yes.  Is Jerry Stackhouse old and crusty-YES!!!  ALL-STAR-NO!!!

by gabezgsw on Dec 18, 2007 12:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

All-Star Voting
Personally, I think the warriors would benefit the most from not having a player voted or select to the all-star game for two reasons:
  1. The two most likely guys are Capt Jax and B-diddy. We all know that Nellie has been pushing each of them nearly 40 minutes a game. I think all the wear and tear will kill the Warriors down the stretch. Granted that's when the weak part of Warriors schedule kicks in. Either way, I'd rather have a health Davis and Jackson beating up the weaker teams on their schedule verses a little more worn down Davis and Jackson will an All-Star appearance in their resume.
  2. By getting snubbed for the game it adds another chip to the shoulders of Davis and Jackson both of whom seem to play better when they've got something to prove. I'd love for the All-star snub for fuel a strong 2nd half of the season as the Warriors attempt to make it back to the playoffs.
SIDENOTE: I'm sure this is a video everyone has seen on GSoM, but if not I just saw it on IFC's Framed. It is a clip directed by Emmanuelle Chriqui and starring Baron Davis. This clip is just the intro. The actual video is hilarious with Baron doing all this b-ball trick while roller skating to some whacky 80s music. If I can find the full video I'll post it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZHG9TBZvuo

by mcwalter44 on Dec 18, 2007 2:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I want 1 all star
I want to see Monta in the dunk competition.   Lets see him pwn lebron.....

by jeezy on Dec 18, 2007 2:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

who cares about the all star game
making it to the playoffs is what counts

and fans are fans...
no difference if you just join or you been one since you were small
everyone has to start somewhere

by 8monta on Dec 18, 2007 4:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Here's an idea....
Why doesn't everyone take a little time each day and vote online. I'm sure if more Warriors fans voted, one of our guys would be higher up in the totals.
Yes the all-star game is a popularity contest and no one can beat 3 billion chinese voters to replace Yao Ming as the starting center, but doesn't one of our players deserve the effort? Now I'm not saying miss half the game at Oracle so you can stuff the ballot box, but I don't think 10min a day trying to get Baron the recognition he deserves would hurt.

by tangel29 on Dec 18, 2007 5:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

my dissagreements
fans vote for starters
coaches and whoever decide the rest
so if jason terry gets one less vote than steve nash and he doesn't deserve to go, he won't go.  Who really cares

Its stupid that you don't care if fans vote for Yi, but voting for jerry stackhouse or shane battier is unacceptable.  If the fans want to see a jason terry so bad, why not.  personally i don't think yao should have been starting the all star game his rookie year and i don't think Terry should go at all, but im not gonna say im for one of them and im against the other.  mediocre players that don't deserve to go shouldn't go in my opinion - i don't want someone to go just because of race.  You don't see all the white people in america voting heavily on white people

Even if baron isn't getting any love from voters he should and will probably make it cuz the warriors are actually a good squad this year and he is playing great and deserves it.

by Proof on Dec 18, 2007 6:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

COME ON ITS THE LEAST WE CAN DO
THE WARRIORS HAVE BEEN WORKING THEIR BUTTS OFF TO GET THE BAY CRAZY AND THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS SHOW THAT WE LOVE EM AND PUT EM IN THE ALL STAR GAME. the all star game not only shows their the best in the league but also gives them face time on tv world wide. which moves compensation players to the global players which is what i think baron davis is capable of maybe maybe the other warriors

by gswLLBatman on Dec 18, 2007 6:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I mostly agree
with mcwalter up above. from a selfish standpoint as a dubs fan, I'd rather give our whole squad the long weekend off, and ice those knees.
Let the all-star nonsense play itself out, and then we get back to business.
could you even imagine how crap it would feel if Bdiddy got injured playing in this overhyped exhibition match?
I'll pass, though maybe the players themselves would like the recognition.  As a fan, I'm content to know that Davis is one of the very best, to hell with whether all the voters in China, Texas and Turkey recognize.

by panhandlelegend on Dec 18, 2007 8:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Chyeah
Voting only determines starters. Coaches pick the rest. For those of you who actually believe we can get Baron to start. Come on! Even if the whole Bay votes for him everyday, he won't start. He's still gotta compete with the likes of Nash, T-Mac, and Kobe, who are all getting votes not only from their respective cities, but from the whole nation and world. Baron doesn't come close to them in terms of popularity. But hey, I'm a pessismist. Prove me wrong guys. :D

by WarriorForLife on Dec 18, 2007 10:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Give me a break
"The NBA regularly salutes Warriors' fans as the league's finest."

When did this happen?

We are still talking about the same fans that were more interested in a dunk than winning a playoff series, right?

by bisteira on Dec 19, 2007 8:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

um...what?
watch a warrior game on national tv and hear the heaps of praise given to warrior fans by the broadcasters. and just because we celebrated the dunk as one of the best of all time (which it was), doesn't mean we cared about it more than winning the series. i don't think there's one person here who wouldn't trade away the dunk for having won that series. do some research noob

by AJC3317 on Dec 19, 2007 10:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't feed the trolls

Seriously, is there any question which "in the middle of a slump" team this cat, bisteira, follows?

Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Dec 19, 2007 11:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All-Star Games are for Losers
Case in point: I'm hella stoked that Pat Willis made the Pro Bowl. Made my day.

by Panic Button on Dec 19, 2007 10:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

all a matter of opinion
There are a lot of opinions on here regarding the all-star ballot and what not and weather or not BD(or any other warrior) should go, with a lot of people bashing the all-star thing but the fact remains, it is an all-star game and I would assume that it's an honor and a privilege for any player to partcipate in the event regardless how they were voted in.  It really doesn't matter what people think of the voting process and what BD should or shouldn't do, why or why not.....I would find it hard to believe that any Warrior/ BD fan would be disappointed if Baron DID make the team and play the game.

Has it occured to anyone that just maybe Baron would be happy to be a part of the "festivities" and get that "recognition" as being an all-star and represent his team?  I would think it's safe to assume that he would.....I'd be amazed if anyone thinks otherwise.

We're Golden!

by Krossover on Dec 19, 2007 11:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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