Warriors 85, Lakers 102 - Answer: Owned!, Question: Warriors?

by Fantasy Junkie on Feb 25, 2007 6:37 PM PST in Recaps

My favorite clip gets the leadoff spot. Whenever you see the monkey, you know it was a bad game.

Answer: 1 Win, 14 Losses
Question: What is the Warriors record on the 2nd game of a back to back?

Ummm, that record is flat out horrible. C'mon, these guys are supposed to be in great shape running all the time with Nellie's uptempo offense. There's no reason they should be extra tired on the 2nd game of a back to back. I mean there are teams that could accidentally win 2 out of 15 games. Of many other things, this needs to get fixed. Fast.

Answer: 6 points
Question: How many fast break points did the Warriors score in the first 3 quarters?

Today, the Warriors scored a total of 14 fast break points, but had just 6 in the first 3 quarters. The rest came in garbage time. The reason for the low output on fast breaks was they looked tired and the Lakers did well getting back on D. As in the paragraph above, why are they tired? This is a running team, running teams aren't supposed to get tired. They are supposed to be in tip top shape. As far as the Lakers D, they did an excellent job of not letting the Warriors get out and run. They limited the outlet passes and clogged the fast break lanes when the Warriors tried to run. There always seemed to be 3 or 4 guys back on D when the Warriors entered the frontcourt. This led to way too many half court sets and we all now how ugly a Warriors half court set can be. See below...

Answer: 9-21, 42.9%
Question: What did the Warriors shoot from the free throw line?

I bet some of you saw the percentage and thought that was what the Warriors shot from 3 point land. Nope! Had they shot that well from 3, they might have been in the game. Below 50% from the line is pretty much inexcusable. Stephen Jackson 0-2, Andris Biedrins 0-2, Mickael Pietrus 0-2, Kelenna Azubuike 1-2, Matt Barnes 0-2. Those 5 guys managed to go 1-10 from the line.

One interesting stat, Jason Richardson from the line went 0-0. I know he just came back from injury but how can a guy who can drive as well as he does, not draw a single foul while shooting? He took a lot of jumpers today and hit them, but I still would like him to get to the hole. Maybe he didn't have his legs since it's the 2nd game of a back to back and he's been out awhile, but we'll need him to get to the line and force the issue against the defense.

Answer: 2-19, 10.5%
Question: What did the Warriors shoot from 3 point range?

This one just baffles me. At halftime, they were 1-11 from 3. So what is the smart thing to do? Maybe attack the basket or step inside the line for a mid-range jumper. Instead, the Warriors decide that shooting some more long range bombs was the answer. Some people say, live by the 3, die by the 3. I just don't understand it. As a team, if you're not shooting well from outside, then it behooves you to get a little closer. If it's not working, then stop doing it. Continuing to shoot 3's even though you're not making them is like continuing to play a zone when the other team is killing your zone. Oh wait, nevermind, that happens too. Also, it's not like this is an isolated incident. The Warriors have had plenty of games where the 3 isn't falling and they keep jacking it up there. Stop it. Please.

Here's an answer. Until you start making some mid-range jumpers, attack the basket, or get some easy buckets to actually cut into the lead, don't shoot anymore 3's. Once you get your confidence back in your ability to score and you actually feel it, then step outside and shoot a 3.

Answer: Maurice Evans
Question: Which Lakers role player has a career game against the Warriors?

Warrior killer!

So when the scouting report came out for today's game I'm sure it was full of how to contain Kobe, not let Odom go off, keep Bynum out of the paint, or not let Turiaf embarrass you again. Perhaps, guard Maurice Evans should have been in the report. Let's take a look at his season averages:

Minutes: 22:18
Points: 8.3
Field Goals: 3.0-7.1 (42.8%)
Rebounds: 2.9
Assists: 1.0
Steals: 0.4

Okay now let's look at what kind of player the Warriors turned this guy into:
Minutes: 36:08
Points: 26!
Field Goals: 8-13 (61.5%)
Rebounds: 2
Assists: 4
Steals: 2

Hey look, we held him below his season average in rebounds. Good job guys.

Answer: ???
Question: Will the Warriors make the playoffs?

I don't know the answer to this one. Maybe you do. Leave your answer in the comments.

Warrior Wonder: Andris Biedrins. 8 points, 16 boards and some good defense. I still don't understand why Biedrins and Powell don't play together more often. They're two athletic big men, one who can beat you inside, and one who can shoot outside. Not a bad combination. Anyways, Beans gets the award for today for having a nice game despite the overall ugliness on the Warriors side.

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I still don't understand why Biedrins and Powell don't play together more often. They're two athletic big men, one who can beat you inside, and one who can shoot outside. Not a bad combination.

Answer: Because our coach is Nelson.

by MANUTEs BOLs on Feb 25, 2007 6:50 PM PST reply actions

first off

mad props to GSOM... win or lose we're still here. i think today's game was a "must win" and the wolves and kings winning wont help either. today, i witnessed the worse display of home team support. we were chanting "mvp" for kobe? we were cheering for the lakers at the end of the game? im not sure if it was a home game because it wasnt fair for our team. bottom line, it's to late to wait for baron to carry us and its to late to "hope or if". no more questions. we cant wait to for injuries cause it's to late to point fingers. (read the post-game quotes!!!) our 5 against their 5!!! we either put up or shut up!!! 5 games on the road and we need to come up on top. and the best thing is we still believe even though we know the answer. i put my entire paycheck that this road trip makes us or breaks us cause we're either closer to .500 or -10 under .500!!!

gdubb

by gogomaplata on Feb 25, 2007 7:18 PM PST reply actions

Nope

No playoffs for this team. I think we've proven how thoroughly mediocre we are.

by jonathan on Feb 25, 2007 7:33 PM PST reply actions

Nope again...

Mediocre AND inconsistent. This team has shown flashes of brilliance this year, but they don't do it game after game. They often don't play smart (continuing to fire up 3's when they're not hitting them), they often do play carelessly (unforced turnovers, missed layups and free throws) and I just don't think they have the overall talent to get to the playoffs. Waiting for Pietrus to develop is, I fear, going to be like waiting for Dunleavy to develop: not going to happen. Barnes has had some good games, but has had far more mediocre/poor ones. Biedrins and Monta: untouchable...they will develop even further. Powell and Booky, too. The jury's still out on SJax and Harrington, but it's not looking good. Sarunas could be an asset, but he has to play more and probably won't get an opportunity, especially after Baron returns. Baron, JRich, Biedrins and Monta can't do it by themselves. As presently constituted, even with individual improvement, 2007-8 will probably be a continuation of the playoff drought unless a couple of shrewd trades can be made.
I hope they prove me wrong and start bearing down, but I don't see a playoff appearance this season.

Optimist

by believer on Feb 25, 2007 9:15 PM PST up reply actions

Ouch

Anyways, Beans gets the award for today for having a nice game despite the overall ugliness on the Warriors side.

Not that I actually saw the game (judging from the result, that's probably a good thing), but I can totally second that, and I'm not talking about the score or stats either. ;)

by J-Triumf on Feb 25, 2007 7:39 PM PST reply actions

Hmmm...

JT, did I detect a backhanded slap at the old-school THE CITY unis?

Or were you talking about Stephen Jackson? ;-)

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 25, 2007 8:14 PM PST up reply actions

props to

POB. he played some good defense on andrew bynum today and pushed him out of the key. but he needs to be a lot more agressive offensively and on the boards. keep developing POB, even if it means its in the NBDL.

by CatchAndShoot on Feb 25, 2007 8:06 PM PST reply actions

Will the Warriors make the playoffs?

Not likely. Their record might put them in the mix, but they are clearly not playing like a playoff team. Hopefully they get fired up and get some urgency.

Warriors fan 4 life!

by tadams1080 on Feb 25, 2007 8:15 PM PST reply actions

playoffs

the dubs still got a chance. if we tread water till our savior boom dizzle gets back we will be golden.

Panz Callit is the name Holla

by hailmullingssavior on Feb 25, 2007 8:24 PM PST reply actions

I can't wait

Monta getting more bench-time and our rusty "savior," fresh off knee surgery, clanging relentlessly from long distance. We'll be unstoppable ... baby.

25 games left -- maybe 15-20 by the time Baron returns. Not a whole lot of time to gel into a playoff team. These last two losses hurt bad.

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 25, 2007 8:32 PM PST up reply actions

Monta is the truth

he was just unstoppable in the first half... until he disappeared in the 3rd for unexplainable reasons. Even the Faker fans all around me were admiring Monta's talent and praising him.

by ZombieWarrior on Feb 25, 2007 8:59 PM PST up reply actions

I hope you're right about that

At some point in the next year or two, I think everyone associated with this team -- Nellie, JRich, Baron, AB, Harrington, SJax -- is going to have to realize that this is Monta's team for the forseeable future. Really, the sooner the better, AFAIC. All great teams need to build around one player and team leader; Monta may not be a sure bet for superstardom, but right now he's the closest thing we've got.

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 25, 2007 9:10 PM PST up reply actions

Cool off buddy

A little extreme there on BD don't ya think?

He's not playing right now, so take a deep breath.

He's never played with our entire roster, give him a few days OK?

With real basketball players, (not an injured J Rich and 2 Broadway actresses), he won't have to throw up the 3's like he usually is INSTRUCTED to by coach... he can penetrate more. He's still by far our best player, by far, don't you see his face all over Yahoo sports these days with those ATT commercials?

So cool off bro. It could be worse if you were a Celtics fan, Mr. Boston ha ha ha

Now I always think of Mr. Boston from VH1 whenever I see your posts.

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY

by gsdubz on Feb 26, 2007 7:53 AM PST up reply actions

I'm kewwwwwl

Yeah, in the heat of my postgame frustration, I probably overstated the case on Baron. The "clanging from long-distance" line was unduly harsh (though I think that could be a great alternate title for his AT&T show...)

I agree that he's our best player, GSD -- but I don't know about "by far." Monta and Beans seem to close the gap daily. I guess I'm just dubious that Baron, coming off knee surgery, can magically whip us into playoff shape in the space of 15-20 games. Chemistry takes time. And, thinking more long-term, I'm even more dubious that he's the centerpiece around whom we should be building the team.

As for "Mr. Boston:" love it! I totally didn't get the VH1 reference, but I like the idea of your trying to cobble together a picture of me from my multifarious posts on GSoM. I'm in your head! I think every few weeks or so I'll have to throw out a red herring just to keep you off the scent. Have I mentioned that I wear a monocle, speak with a pronounced lisp, and have an irrational fear of pickles?

Yeah, think Austin Powers' "Dr. Evil," and you're not far off... ;-)

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 26, 2007 2:59 PM PST up reply actions

omg

u have to go to vh1.com and check the clips of mr. boston, the dude is hilarious, he became a vh1 celebrity over night ha ha

don't worry i won't think about you too much

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY

by gsdubz on Feb 28, 2007 1:09 PM PST up reply actions

All great teams need to build around

"one player and team leader; Monta may not be a sure bet for superstardom, but right now he's the closest thing we've got"

A one dimensional short guy is not the one to build around. I'd keep Baron, Jason, and Dris for starters and Powell, Bukakke, and Cabagges for backups and try to trade monta(who has more value as a trade chip than as a keeper)as well as Sjax, harrington, etc for a really good big man.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 26, 2007 1:50 PM PST up reply actions

hear that?

listen closely. that's our playoff hopes going down the drain.

by AJC3317 on Feb 25, 2007 9:14 PM PST reply actions

Where is the Veteran Leadership?

I was at the game and looking forward to the team really stepping up. I just can't understand why Jax, Harrington and J-Rich can't play like the veterans they are. They just disappear and all of sudden we have Monta and AB carrying the team offensively and defensively. At least Jax and Harrington came from a team with a winning culture, and supposedly that makes a big difference.

Being at the game was disheartening as was the loss to the Clippers. I don't think anyone has a clue how this team, currently constructed and coached, can turn the franchise around if the on-court leadership can't get it turned around.

So at the end of this season, we'll have Baron and J-Rich and maybe even Nellie promising next year will be different. And come April I'll get my ticket renewal offer (by now and save some money)and being the fan I am I'll re-up because hope springs eternal. Even if Cohan and management lay another increase on us, certainly not predicsted on any performance based criteria.

Thank goodness for GSoM, an oasis in the desert of disappointment and broken promises.

by commish on Feb 25, 2007 9:49 PM PST reply actions

Harrington and Jax

I just can't understand why Jax, Harrington and J-Rich can't play like the veterans they are. They just disappear and all of sudden we have Monta and AB carrying the team offensively and defensively. At least Jax and Harrington came from a team with a winning culture, and supposedly that makes a big difference.

There is a reason that Harrington and Jackson were available for overpriced players we didn't want. Pacers fans tended to think that they should have been better, that they were prone to disappear. The team with the 'winning culture' got rid of two starters mid-season. Perrhaps because they were recognized as being detrimental to the 'winning culture' there.

Harrington seems to have a problem jumping. I was told that he was supposed to be 'athletic' but I'm still waiting to see evidence of this.

by jae on Feb 26, 2007 4:15 PM PST up reply actions

I WONDER...

How many players, have either set season highs or even careers highs vs. the Dubs this season? I saw one this afternoon, it seems like every game though, I cannot help but wonder if it is some kind of record or something for letting 'F'ing nobody's score like they they are Pistol Pete!

by ZEROrebounding on Feb 25, 2007 9:52 PM PST reply actions

like i've been saying

Boom Dizzle won't be back til March 7th ok? After the road trip, when we play denver and the clipps next. We will go probably 1-4 on the road trip, and will be 27-35, 8 games under .500. From there, we will need to go about 14-6 down the stretch with our whole team.

I know it seems unlikely, but if we have a chance at the playoffs, it will be known in the first few days of that last 20 game stretch, when our team plays together for the FIRST TIME. If not, then we wait til next year, make some good moves in the summer, and will start off hot right from the start, above .500 the entire season from the first day.

The trade was the highlight of our year, the highlight of our last several years, and our future is bright with this team and Coach Nelson.

nuff said.

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY

by gsdubz on Feb 25, 2007 10:16 PM PST reply actions

i was at the game today

and the worst part wasn't the warriors unenthusiastic and lackadaisacal approach to the game. it was all the f*cking lakers fans! they were EVERYWHERE. they were cheering kobe at the free-throw line, chanting MVP, and COMPLETELY drowning out the home crowd. It put me to shame as a fan....that and the 17-point loss.

jusgo

by tobin on Feb 25, 2007 10:23 PM PST reply actions

Biggest waste of two hours ever.

I am very unlucky in that the last two games I've gone to this season have been this latest debacle and the Miami Heat game which the dubs dropped by 30. This team has gotta rip up their game plan and find something unique that they can all fit into well. The Lakers were not that good tonite, wtf!
Too many bad passes, too many crap fouls, and too many 3pts missed. This team is goin nowhere fast.

by OaktownRajah on Feb 26, 2007 1:21 AM PST reply actions

i remember last year

how many games the warrior lost by 30 pts? i guess only 2, how many by 1 or 3 points 20, so the defense was there, we only didnt do it at the cluth but this up tempo nelly strategy i dont think its a good idea specially when a good for nothing player have some carrers high vs us.

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by goldenberto on Feb 26, 2007 5:12 AM PST reply actions

its too late

to worry about the "ifs, ands & buts?" the "should haves and could haves" the "hopes and dream" are too late!!! our window of opportunity is dwindling. look, ive been on different forums and a lot of people out there believe the warriors are gonna make the push to the post season. so now is the time we support our team. cause witnessing the lakers blow us out in our home court with our own crowd against us was a shame!!! its proven that our season has been a roller coaster but these guys are actually trying. the team and its fans!!! so the next home game comes around lets rock the oracle and play our part in as the hungriest fans in the NBA!!!!

gdubb

by gogomaplata on Feb 26, 2007 9:47 AM PST reply actions

We should have had GSoM night today

We could have countered all those Faker fans.

by racsan on Feb 26, 2007 9:55 AM PST reply actions

24-7

its GSOM day all day everyday bro!!!! (especially on game day!!!)

gdubb

by gogomaplata on Feb 26, 2007 10:51 AM PST up reply actions

its all out of love

I agree with you goldenboy, I think a lot of people believe in the Warriors this year. Thats why I get so upset, because I see so much potential. But I will never give up on this team. The future is still bright for them. And as long as they go out and play hard every game, I'll be happy. Go Dubs!

Warriors fan 4 life!

by tadams1080 on Feb 26, 2007 10:22 AM PST reply actions

LA transplant up herrrr...

I'm a Laker fan but I'm a b-ball fan first and, well, I hate Kobe. Anyway....personally, and I just found this forum so I imagine some have said something like this, but Nelly doesn't know how to get his players to play defense. Avery Johnson basically took the same roster in '05-'06 which Nelly had had the year before and got them to play D and look at them now. Nelly is in love with offense and like they say, defense wins championships. Al Harrington has never been known for D. Really, when you have good defenders-Josh Powell springs to mind, along with people like Foyle who...oops, this sounds like a bad rhyme...does defend...well, I'm not saying they should be playing all the time, but you need some defense to give yourselves a chance. Anyway, my point is just I don't see GSW getting to the playoffs this year. Maybe they get there but they're not going far as long as they're not playing defense. And why organizations continue to hold up Mr. Injury Baron Davis as the key to success is beyond me. But anyway....I admire your team...and Warrior fans.....we're spoiled in LA...Warrior fans are admirable for their loyalty. But Nelly is not the answer. Anyway, if you've read this far, thanks for reading :)

by MuchLubtoGSDub on Feb 26, 2007 3:04 PM PST reply actions

hey thanx .......

good analisys by a non-warrior fan, i love the warriors since run tmc and i think im the only faithfull fan from my lovely Puerto Rico (Arroyo's and JJ Barea town too)and really this has been a roller coaster for da dubs,let's see what happens

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by goldenberto on Feb 26, 2007 7:46 PM PST reply actions