Why are Bob and Jim the Best Announcers Ever???

by DaAzNJRiCh on Mar 18, 2007 8:38 PM PDT Comment 63 comments

I need to defend them! My buddies always make fun of them since one time Jim compared Zarko to Pau Gasol. They say that they're biased and are the worst announcers ever and it makes me mad. They don't take the argument that they are not as biased as other announcers who only announce for one team. So does anyone have any reasons or anything to help me argue my point???

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It's KINDA like Murphy and Leavy

They're not that bad, but, should never be together on a telecast. PLEASE, throw Tim Roye in there once in a while.

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY

by gsdubz on Mar 18, 2007 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely agree.

Though comparing them to Dunmurphy seems harsh, I do think Barnett is a little better with Tim Roye in there. Tim is great in that he gets incredibly excited, can really deliver some great calls for the home fans, but at the same time he doesn't often spout out the obviously biased statements. I think he tempers Barnett well in that way. Fitz... well, he wears his bias on his sleeve, and Bob&Jim together occasionally make my head shake. But they both know their stuff, and they don't make it boring, which is more than you can say for 80% of the rest of the guys out there.

For any Giants fans on the forum, we're definitely spoiled by Miller, Kruk, and Kuip, probably some of the best commentators in all of sports. Baseball just isn't as entertaining without them.

by ffgolden on Mar 18, 2007 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

i think you think tim roye is like that because one he does radio and when he does it with barnett its a dual radio televised game. so tim roye has to sound like hes so excited and descriptieve. i like him and fitz but hey who was the voice of the 2k series for a couple years bob Steele/ Fitzgerald!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Mar 19, 2007 4:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey...

I remember that. Bob Steele and Rod West (Rod Brooks) now together again on KNBR at Noon. I used to think it was funny how Rod would pretend to be an ex NBA Coach for the in game commentary. And you have to love the Pornstar names that they used for the game. what was that all about, not famous enough to use their real names?

by olympicmike on Mar 19, 2007 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They aren't bad...

but they ain't too good either. I guess to think positively, it could be a lot worse, you could have Bill Walton commentating all the games. There are lots of other commentator duos that are worse than bob and jim. I actually think they aren't that bias when it comes to giving the opposition their due respect. Jim does make his fair share of dumb comments and comparisons, but overall I don't mind them that much. Think about it like this, if they weren't bias at all, would any warrior fan want to hear them talk if the whole time they were talking good about the other team?

by david240z on Mar 18, 2007 9:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

announcers

are supposed to be a little biased...no one wants their announcers to bag on their own team....but i think jim and bob do a good job of saying when the warriors suck (well...alluding...they cant really just say it) barnett is pretty knowledgable, and although corny sometimes, i think hes a good play by play guy....and who doesnt love fitzgerald and his "YES SIR"s....and that buzzer beater in dallas last year, thats the kind of passion that makes basketball games fun to watch in my opinion..thats pretty much why i like them

by yapheelme on Mar 18, 2007 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

exactly my thoughts

by travisl212 on Mar 18, 2007 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

they're not

the sac announcers

we're blessed

by namjagerungbengi on Mar 18, 2007 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

that's right!

I forgot about the Sac announcers! They are HORRID! Esp when they had that girl, which i can say since i AM a girl. I couldn't stand her! And now she's calling games on ESPN! They really need to work on their announcing staff, it's really going downhill.

by dirrty on Mar 19, 2007 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

3 words- he got it!

how can u not love the way bob goes crazy and gets so into the game when u, the person watching, feels the same. how crappy would a boring announcer be?

by twelve years on Mar 18, 2007 10:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah!!

bob and jim are speaking as warrior fans themselves. watching TNT games with the warriors sometimes bugs me cause marv albert and doug collins or something never has anything positive to the warriors evne when the warriors do somethign crazy.

by bun on Mar 18, 2007 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And that is why they're great!

They are Warriors fans themselves! I really enjoy listening to them during games. The TNT guys really don't give a dam* about the Warriors.

by The City Warjorz on Mar 18, 2007 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fitz is great.

I think Fitz is a great announcer. Jim on the otherhand says the most obvious things. I forgot what he said one time but it was along the lines of "if you miss a shot, you're not gonna get points."

Felton Spencer career avg's: 5.2 points and 5.4 rips.

by Felton Spencer on Mar 18, 2007 10:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

haha.

Agreed 900 fold. I love Fitz, hate Jim.

Playoffs in '07, baby!

by coma on Mar 18, 2007 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fitz

Jim can get a little bit annoying, but Fitz is awesome. He is so knowledgeable about so many topics....if you listen to KNBR you know what I'm talking about.

by jrichordieflyin on Mar 18, 2007 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice pin

game winner baby!

by goldenchild on Mar 19, 2007 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ELLIS TO THE RIM

who else, but fitz could call that classic line

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZOK4tl8iI

that youtube clip always pumps me up watching the dubs

by goldenchild on Mar 18, 2007 10:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I love Bob and Jim

they are both knowledgable and fun and good guys to listen to. Jim Barnet is especially knowledgable and a very cool old guy. of course they are going to be a little biased because they are only brodcasting toward warriors fans, thats theyre job. but they are pretty unbiased because they often admit when the other team gets a bad call called on them and stuff like that. Tim Roye is okay. he is a really good radio anouncer and i like listening to him but i definately like my boys bob and jim

by travisl212 on Mar 18, 2007 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I love Bob and Jim

"they are both knowledgable and fun and good guys to listen to. Jim Barnet is especially knowledgable and a very cool old guy. of course they are going to be a little biased because they are only brodcasting toward warriors fans, thats theyre job. but they are pretty unbiased because they often admit when the other team gets a bad call called on them and stuff like that. Tim Roye is okay. he is a really good radio anouncer and i like listening to him but i definately like my boys bob and jim"

You get an A on this one young man! Well thought out and to the point. I'm about Barnett's age by the way so take it easy on us "old guys" OK? And how's your rehab on your knee goin?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2007 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

bob & jim

i think that you'd be hard pressed to find a more enthusiastic announcer than fitz. he really makes the game fun to watch. jim is just a really cool guy, and he's very knowledgeable. their both kinda biased but personally i like that.

by AJC3317 on Mar 18, 2007 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

bob and jim

are the best. I learned alot from them when i was a kid back then. Tim Roye is cool to but he has a radio voice and i like as a radio guy. But the guy who i can't stand, who is annoying is matt steinmatz who alwayz has something bad to say about the warriors i don't even know why his on tv

by Warrior fan 23 on Mar 18, 2007 11:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

agreed about Matt

I like his enthusiasm but he doesn't seem ready to be on tv cuz he says alot of stupid stuff even though I think he probably isn't that stupid

More Hardware Coming!

by gsw4life on Mar 18, 2007 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Third that notion

Sorry Matt--I liked your column, but your TV work... well, stinks. And you're not any more of an "NBA Insider" than anyone else at the arena. Aren't there any retired Warriors that we can bring in? Can Chris Gatling warm up a mic?

by ffgolden on Mar 18, 2007 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

fourth

stienmetz is lame, he always looks like he's unprepared whenever they show him

by AJC3317 on Mar 19, 2007 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys don't even know how lucky we are

Anyone with league pass would know how comparitively unbiased Bob & Jim are. Especially Jim! Honestly, to me it seems like he goes out of his way to be unbiased sometimes, like reverse-racisim except it's reverse-biasness. Like some calls that could go either way he'll go the Warriors got lucky on that one. But seroiusly, anyone with league pass knows Warriors fans are lucky. Take last night's game for example. Sonics announcers wouldn't ever admit a Sonics player fouled, and would always call it "good defense." It was especially funny one play they replayed slowmotion Collison blocking Biedrins on a dunk attempt and he got all arm, seriously his hand didn't get as high as the ball was and it was very obvious the refs missed one, but the Sonics guy is like Great defense by Collison! Anyways moral of story is we're lucky to have Bob & Jim.

More Hardware Coming!

by gsw4life on Mar 18, 2007 11:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

hah

Everyone says that, man. There are better former Warriors that could accompany Fitz and make a better broadcasting duo, in my opinion.

Playoffs in '07, baby!

by coma on Mar 19, 2007 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously

Some of the commentators are just ridiculous. They definitely know who is signing their pay checks.

by jrichordieflyin on Mar 19, 2007 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh

I think that point is really driven home w/MLB Extra Innings...the gap between "everyone else" and Krup/Kuip/Miller is immense. The gap b/t Fitz/Barnett and everyone else is...eh, not so much. It's a combination of Barnett being senile and Fitz not having any kind of background as a play-by-play guy. His enthusiasm kinda makes up for it but for those of you who remember Greg Papa doing warrior games...greg papa, he is not.

I wouldn't be sad losing Fitz on TV (as long as you keep him on radio...he's one of the more knowledgable guys out there). Who does Kevin Harlan do games for? The T-wolves, right? I'm sure we could send foyle/POB/fitz over for KG/Harlan...

"right between the eyes!"

by GameSix on Mar 19, 2007 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you really believe the gap isn't that big

You've obviously never watched a game announced by the Cleveland or San Antonio guys. They're not the only bad ones but they're the worst.

More Hardware Coming!

by gsw4life on Mar 19, 2007 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had league pass for the last three years...

while I was at school. Maybe I drank myself stupid, but no one is as bad as the Padres announcers or the White Sox announcers. Conversely, no one is as good as Kruk/Kuip/Miller. They're the best in all of baseball, period. I don't think Fitz/Barnett are in the same eschelon, regardless of how craptastic Cle/SA are.

by GameSix on Mar 19, 2007 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed with GSW4Life

Having league pass, I feel blessed to have Jim and Bob. The only other announcers I liked were the Blazer announcers. They had nothing but good things to say about the Warriors when we lost to them a week ago. Those Sonic announcers on the other hand were garbage. They kept saying "good defense" when they kept replaying their one good defensive play and that was more Biedrins missing the lay up than good defense by the Sonics.

Felton Spencer career avg's: 5.2 points and 5.4 rips.

by Felton Spencer on Mar 19, 2007 12:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah we are lucky

when i get free league pass i like to listen to the other teams announcers, and we are like oneof the best. here is my top 5

Cippers: They have pretty good voices and say the right stuff

Celtics: if you hear them they got that old voice that just sounds cool

Warriors: bob and jim are a good duo

Cavs: The guy makes everything sound like something big is going to happen no matter what it is

Miami: Good voices but it was better when they had fratello

my low 5
Bulls: They make you want to go sleep

Mavs: Just listen to the jrich shot on there side and that explains alot, and the guy just sounds like a dumba$$

Pacers: Now how in the world can you make murphleavy sound like the best players in the world?

all espn annoucners i dont know why they hire them TNT always got better people talking about a game than them

well i cant think of the 5th team but yeah

Sorry i dint pick our warrior team as #1 but if you got league pass or nbatv you will understand my list, but feel free to give your list and oppinions to mine

by 24k state fan since 87 on Mar 19, 2007 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"HEEEE GOT IT! HEEE GOT IT!!!!

THE WARRIORS WIN IT! THEY WIN IT!!!!!!!
Now they've called it good... it's gone, it's out of his hand, THEN the orange lights, THERE'S NO QUESTION IT'S GOOD! THE WARRIORS HAVE DONE IT AGAIN TO DALLAS!
JASON RICHARDSON, HITS THE THREE, TO GIVE HIM FORTY AND WIN THE GAME!"

I think Fitz's call on that game is on par with the guy who called the Big Game finish in 1982 (Joe Stargy?). You do not see any excitement like that anywhere. How can you not love the guy?

by Bill Curley 0wns j00 on Mar 19, 2007 12:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The great Joe Starkey

I posted this recently in another thread, but oh, what the heck, I'll re-post it here. Everyone, even Stanford kids, can always use a little dose of THE PLAY...

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 19, 2007 2:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

still get pretty misty watching that

from that point on, every kickoff in our nerf football games had to have mutiple laterals, with us anouncing like Starkey while we played.

by jakarta on Mar 19, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice vid

i'm from CAL, so i always love seeing that video. love how it was the best play in the top 50 most spectacular plays on best damn sports show.

btw, how did u embed the video? i tried doing that in some comments, but i get some HTML error.

by goldenchild on Mar 19, 2007 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Embedding

Yeah, I had to play with it to get it work. Basically, you copy the text from the "embed" box on the YouTube page, and then delete two bits of code: (1) all the stuff starting with "object width" before the first "embed"; and (2) the phrase wmode="transparent" which for whatever reason our board doesn't like.

If you have time, test it out here with "Ellis to the Rim" or something...

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 19, 2007 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think

they are okay. They don't get crazy over call or non-call, admit when the Warriors foul the other team. I can't say they're great but they're okay.
I remember watching on ESPN when they played a Bulls game (because it was a close game, but wasn't the one game scheduled on national TV) and the Bulls announcers went crazy and said "THAT WAS A FOUL! THAT WAS A FOUL!!" Bob and Jim remain relatively calm when they see those kinds of situations (close game and maybe got robbed by the officials, which probably because the Warriors have been robbed the officials since forever).

by semarubaka on Mar 19, 2007 12:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Matt

reminds me of the creepy guy that drives around in the ice cream truck lurring away little kids, something about him just screams creep. Maybe it's because he's a horrible broadcaster. Jim and Bob are good though, they make the game a lot more enjoyable because they have a lot of the same passion that we do because they're real Warriors fans.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Mar 19, 2007 2:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fitz is the man

How can you hate on Fitz who was the announcer on the 2k Basketball series by SEGA before they went all ESPN. Jim is all right the only thing that bugs me about him are the broken record sayings he keeps repeating; how about coming up with something I haven't heard all 82 games.

by fendog26 on Mar 19, 2007 2:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

bring back papa

ive been waiting for greg papa since he left..i thought fitz was just gonna be a temporary replacement. and yeah, we havent made the playoffs since....

barnett is cool, specially during those charge/block situations, he calls it how it is...

fitz during the seattle game: "i think monta duped the ref thinking he got hit.."

barnett: "what are you talking about bob...are u blind? he got hit u *&^(!!

(or something to that effect)

- i need a webpin

by VonteegoCummings on Mar 19, 2007 3:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

hahah

yeah, i remember that call. barnett had to lay the smack down

by goldenchild on Mar 19, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh...

and yeah ..please dont ever make nate thurmond sit on the broadcast ever again...as much as i like former warrior players....hes better off grilling some ribs at big nate's...

how about Greg Papa/ Rick Barry
or Jon Miller / Tom Tolbert

- i couldnt figure out the template

by VonteegoCummings on Mar 19, 2007 3:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

these guys are great

ilove fitz's enthusiasm, also they are both very knowledgable, and really when you are the team play by play guys you gotta be a little biased, in essence you do work for the team. i feel like they are both pretty even handed when it comes to foul calls either way. jim barnett reminds me of that cool grandpa that your buddy has that knows all this stuff and you could just sit around and hang out with him for hours. i really don't think the bay area fans realise how good they have it. some of the best broadcasters in sports work right here.

by ruderu22 on Mar 19, 2007 5:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

agreed!

I think Jim and Bob are the best! Of all the other announcers i've heard (and i'm pretty sure i've heard most of them), i think they both do a great job at not being utterly and completely biased towards the W's and at the same time having good knowledge of the game. Sometimes Jim makes cheesy comments, but he's old, give him a break! Oh, but i don't like Steinmentz.

The worst announcers in the Bay are the Giants announcers. GAG! I wish Greg Papa would go back to calling A's game with Ray Fosse.

by dirrty on Mar 19, 2007 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish Greg Papa would go back to calling A's game

"I wish Greg Papa would go back to calling A's game with Ray Fosse"

Anyone remember Monty Moore the old A's announcer during Fosse's playing days? Barnett has a style sorta like that, friendly and comfortable to listen to, a guy you'd like to hang out with.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2007 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um

No. The Giants have the best announcers in all of Baseball. Kruk, Kuip, Miller, heck even Flemming is above average.

by DaAzNJRiCh on Mar 19, 2007 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

seriously..

i wouldn't have it any other way. jim and bob do a great job and i love listening to their comments. On the other hand i think Matt S. is really bad luck. Maybe its because he has his half time commentary and then the Warriors usually come out and play crappy for the 2nd half. I guess I'm just a little superstitious...

PLAYOFFS!!!

by SalinasWarrior on Mar 19, 2007 8:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

not biased enough!!!

Jim Barnett tries to hard to act non biased when he is.. he criticizes the W's too much, analyzes too much and talks too much about nothing... i swear once I thought I saw him fart dust during a halftime.... SHOW SOME TRUE WARRIOR BIAS FOR A CHANGE AND JUST BASH THE OTHER TEAM AND THE OFFICIALS ON A REGULAR BASIS! WE NEED PRIDE.

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY

by gsdubz on Mar 19, 2007 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Pride?

And where would we derive this pride from...the longest drought in all four professional sports, where like 75% of the teams in the league make it?

Don't hold us to low standards...we gotta strive to be the best!

by GameSix on Mar 19, 2007 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

low standards?

what did you smoke today man? I have high standards, I want us to show nothing but love for the W's, whether it means turning the cheek on their fouls, calling out another team's dirty players, giving our guys a little extra compliments and less criticism... how are those low standards? i'm not saying to be happy about losing, i'm saying, stick up for ur own damn team instead of coming on here and complaining like a baby about every little thing.. it's funny that your low "standards" probably were what pushed people like you to actually defend murphleavy, i wouldn't put it past u.

If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 20, 2007 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

question mark

I defended Murphleavy? What are you talking about bro? I'm just saying, we gotta earn pride, respect, etc...this goes back to the referee bitching that goes on around here. You don't just roll up and get love. Giving them "less criticism" and "more compliments" are contributing factors to a losing mentality. Coddlers like you are the one who keep Murphleavy on teams.

by GameSix on Mar 20, 2007 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Difference between me and you

I'm on their side no matter what

You're on their side when they win

If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 20, 2007 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Figured it out

You're living in ol' AbsoluteLand...it's either black or white, all or nothing? I'm guessing by your line of reasoning that you are no more than 16 years old. Am I right? Be honest.

by GameSix on Mar 21, 2007 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW

I saw Jim Barnett make at least 15 three pointers in a row in pre game warm ups in his shirt and tie!

man the old guy can shoot

by VonteegoCummings on Mar 19, 2007 9:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Aight...

I'd say fitz is the college frat guy and Barnett is the professor. Fitz isn't very knowledgable when it come to basketball or sports for that matter, look at the shlubb, he can't even tie his shoes without doing three times. Barnett on the other hand does. He knows whats up. Many years in the NBA as a player and as an announcer are all the reasons to love him. BOTH FITZ and BARNETT hare homers till they die. Barnett is funny as hell when the Dubs are behind by 11 with 2:21 left in the game and says, "hey they are still in it!". Yeah no crap, until the buzzer blows, in theory, they are in it. Come on Barnett, just read the little graph on the tv provided by FOX sports net and they will give you the probability of the Dubs winning down by 11 with 2 minutes to play. Funny, funny, funny. All in all they are deacent in comparison to thers around the league. We need Papa back in a bad way though. And from another post here, when the Dubs are on NBA TV, ESPN or TNT they get NO LOVE at all. On NBA TV against the Clippers a week or so ago, the announcer said that with 3 minutes left and the Dubs not making a shot for like 3 minutes that the Clippers will come back even thought they were down by 6. What a hater!!!

by gabezgsw on Mar 19, 2007 9:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

hey yea!

what happened to the win probability? Haven't seen it in a while. Not that i'm complaining!

by tadams1080 on Mar 19, 2007 9:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Giants announcers?

Giants announcers Krap, I mean Krup, Kuip and Miller all sound like they were beat up as teenagers. In that they sound like nerds, especially the super goofy one, I think its Kuip, man that guy is a little boy loving weirdo. Uuha, uuha, uuuuuha...Besides, Baseball is for non-athletic fools who never got out of Jr. High English and pre pre algebra. Chewing tabacco and seeds are what they are good at. Maybe walking left or right for 1 second then paly with their ball sack and look at the hotties all day is sports? If golf, pool and darts are "sports" then so is Baseball I guess.

by gabezgsw on Mar 19, 2007 9:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Ban

by GameSix on Mar 19, 2007 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

did you just dis

kruk and kuip well one thing i gotta say i hope someone hits you high deep out of here, than after that GRAB SOME PINE MEAT! go BYE BYE BABY!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Mar 19, 2007 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why no love for Barnett?

Fitzgerald is pretty average as far as play-by-play people go, but Barnett is one of the best color guys in the business.

by SpreeForThree on Mar 19, 2007 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Barnett

always says the most obvious things... as someone said above. Things like, "if you foul a jumpshooter he's gonna get freethrows".... granted that he does repeat the same things because the warriors make the same mistakes. I love on the fastbreak when Bob says, "Baron running with friends..." that always makes me laugh.

by david240z on Mar 19, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

tim roye is one of the best

radio guys ive heard. Barnett and Fitzgerald are good also, but hey, at least we don't have the cavs announcers. All they talk about is sasha pavlovich, ilgaulskas, or as they like to call him Z and of course LeBron, LeBron, LeBron.

Rollin into the playoffs like a fat guy rolls into McDonalds!

by duggie25 on Mar 19, 2007 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs