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HOT or NOT: Rapping Ballers?

Basketball players want to be rappers.  Rappers want to be ball players and film stars.  Film stars know not to touch the mic.  Amidst the hoopla around Artest and AI's shortlived rap careers and the controversy around images of "hip-hop" in the NBA and how basketball players want to look "ghetto" on the sidelines, a rapper (can't remember the name) responded and said (loosely) "(we) want to have the fine suits and the guaranteed contracts.  Why would you want to look poor?"  

This is by no means a moral judgment on what people should and shouldn't wear on the sidelines or neither is this an anti-hip-hop diatribe or a jab at the poor, destitute, and oppressed.  

Seriously though, why do ball players think they can rap?  Second, what type of expectations do we bring to rappers and those who aren't rappers first? 

As scholars, critics and artist themselves have written, the craft of hip-hop inflected in part by the culture industry of mass music is built upon certain expectations-- whether its having skills, flow, charisma, novelty or even a particular race, class, gendered background.  Despite the discourse that claims that hip-hop is "universal" or an "American" grammar, it's undeniable that the culture, or more precisely the industry deliberately contains the representations of rap music to specific generic conventions, or rather the vestiges, of historical legacies and stereotypes of a urban (meaning poor) black (meaning thug) masculinity (meaning a whole bunch of other things).  But besides the stereotypes, you ALSO got to come correct.  As much as people might bump "Chicken Noodle Soup" or Mims "This is Why I'm hot" at the club, in cars, or on the (historical) bloc, its evident by record sales alone that their shelf life is shorter than raw meats outdoors. Not surprising how less mainstream artists like Ghostface Killah push more records by quite a large margin.

Ballers-cum-rappers tend to say nothing at all or offer some of worst lyricism ever, sticking to cliches of images commonly circulated throughout rap but with b-rate video vixens, cars, and directors (see Roy Jones Jr. "Y'all Must've Forgot").

From the good friends over at the Poplicks blog, I came across a post about Tony P(arker)'s new rap album. For release in France, but  his music videos are circulating across the globe as we speak.  I had to see for myself.

As expected, it contained the cliche sports and hip-hop motifs.  Basketball hoops, cheerleaders, a few basketball references (its in French but you can hear things like "slam dunk") in addition to the conventional music video stuff like fine women, cars with big big wheels, and of course the possee.  Surprisingly, no Spurs players are present, probably cuz Brent Barry, Tim Duncan, Oberto, et al. aren't really street cred worthy.  I think it goes to show that image isn't EVERYTHING and that being having lyrics as crafty as your game on the court could probably go a long way.  

With that said, GSoM presents Tony P.  Is he "HOT" or "NOT"???  I think you already know what I think...

"Top of the Game"
- Tony P. featuring Fabolous & Booba


"Balance Toi" - Tony P.

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Eva Longoria needs to talk some sense into her man
HELL YES
18 votes
No! I love this!
5 votes

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well...
i'd rather listen to sound clips of cats being skinned alive than listen to this poser.

by david240z on Mar 31, 2007 9:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously though, why do ball players
 " think they can rap?  Second, what type of expectations do we bring to rappers and those who aren't rappers first? "

    They obviously don't need the money so they probably do it because they enjoy it. Everyone needs a little creative outlet even if they are not very good at it. Look at all the "experts" on here trying to trade Jason or pick up Garnett or make out starting lineups or pick the odds. I can imagine some ballers (like cassels, baron, and hibachi for instance)could be good rappers, they always seem to have something to say.
   We shouldn't bring any expectations. That's their job, they must entertain, educate us, or connect with us in some way to earn the money. I don't know why rap or hiphop should be held to higher standards than country or rock, they are all just folks doing what they think life is all about.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 31, 2007 9:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

rapper don't have to say "something"
but clever word play, story telling, witty oneliners and disses, etc has always been there. i don't think you have to say something "positive" or "conscious" or necessarily "intellectual" but what i'm getting at is that rappers have goone to great lengths in the past and present to prove to critics that hip-hop is creative, thoughtful musical form just like "western" musics. Jay-Z isn't breaking stuff down, but at least his braggadocio has some memorable lines: "i'm flyer than a piece of paper bearing my name" or "like short sleeves I bear arms, Stay out my way from here on (CLEAR?) Gone!" Poetic justice! vs. Mims "This is why i'm hot... you ain't cuz you not."

by dj fuzzylogic on Mar 31, 2007 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sghshs
I'd still take A Tribe Called Quest over Tony P. Mims or Hova anyday.
Ronald Reagan was a jerk.

by Nooob on Mar 31, 2007 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talent and hard work
I think it's a matter of talent and hard work. The most successful rappers work hard at it, it's their job. They live it and breathe it. I don't think pro athletes have the time to be able to devote as much effort into becoming an artist and that's why you get such B-rate quality. Plus it takes time to become good at it. Nobody can just do it for fun and then one day drop a good album. I don't think these guys have really put in the effort to become good artists and that's the result they get. I'm not saying they don't have the talent to, it's just they haven't developed that skill yet.

by Fantasy Junkie on Mar 31, 2007 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing against
Tony P, but I dont know if anyone in the world can pull off rapping in french.  It's the language of love yo.

by FoyledAgain on Mar 31, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't hate on the french rap
I know it is hard for us to swallow, but french hip-hop is actually thriving and there is some serious game coming out of there. First of all, they have a real underclass that strongly identifies with the street and rebellious image of hip-hop. Secondly, slang french sounds actually quite cool in hip-hop.  Check out Akheneton if you can.  He's pretty hardcore and very political.

by walkerp on Mar 31, 2007 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dam
that was horrible! how in the world did he get fabulous to be in the video?!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Mar 31, 2007 11:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

aside from the very FINE women and
Eva Longoria licking the lollipop in the music vid.... it is absolutely crappy.

by ZombieWarrior on Mar 31, 2007 12:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony P=
what an idiot! ha!

by jtoj on Mar 31, 2007 12:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you watch the videos?
Half of the Spurs team is in the "Top of the Game" video.

by LancerEvoV on Mar 31, 2007 12:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i admit...
I only watched clips of both, since i spent half the time rolling on the ground laughing.

by dj fuzzylogic on Mar 31, 2007 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...
I was about to mention that. timmy makes about 6 half second appearances in top of the game....which I kinda actually liked :D

by bradyk2 on Mar 31, 2007 1:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't watch unless you have a chaser....
it'll make you yack!

And whats going on with Fabolous, i was actually a fan. If he keeps this up, he's gonna be joing JA-Rule in the street cred department.


Through thinNthinN?

by k759 on Mar 31, 2007 5:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The beat
in the 2nd video in the very begining is about the only bright spot I see.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Mar 31, 2007 11:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow.
how much did he pay for fabolous to get on the track? i wonder.

by supasickwidit on Apr 3, 2007 3:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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