Dungleavy, Murphy still on honeymoon with Pacers
Great article on insidebayarea.com about how Murphleavy still suck, but they're winning so noone's paying attention.
Loved this dig from Junior directed towards us:
"They've played well," Carlisle said. "Every passing week, they're getting more comfortable with what we're doing. They work hard. ... Both those guys, they're basketball players."Yup, the honeymoon is still on.
Dunleavy said he hasn't been this happy since he was at Duke. He practically glows when talking about his new home, and how his full game is appreciated, his basketball IQ, his passing skills, his team play.
"People there are excited to have me there," Dunleavy said. "The feeling is reciprocated. They understand basketball. They appreciate good basketball."
Everyday I wake up and thank Xenu that Dunleavy is no longer on this team.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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what in the F are you talking about?
honeymoon my arse.

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY
Even w/dropping the last six games IN A ROW...
actually
by jngai on Mar 7, 2007 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Oops, my bad
you feel stupid huh?
good 'ol gsom'ers, makin sure we all get our facts straight!

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY
Charmin Soft Twins in Indiana
The little whiny prick!
My question is this: how is it that in our infinitely diverse Warriors Universe, just about the only thing agreed on by everyone -- from Nellie to Atma to Kawakami to GSDubz -- is that getting rid of Junior was a frigging Godsend?
I think I may need to go post this on the Pacers' blog:

I would buy that box 7 days a week
by mightymadskillz on Mar 7, 2007 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Haha
by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 7, 2007 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Just trusty old Photoshop
Hey, while we're on the subject, I wanted to ask if there are any copyright restrictions on images at GSoM. For example, a couple of weeks back I couldn't find a good close-up of a current player in a THE CITY jersey, so I went to ESPN, clicked on one of the recent game images -- which don't have their own separate url, so presumably aren't meant to be linked to -- uploaded it to my flickr site, and posted it here. Is this acceptable behavior? Where do you guys get all your cool images?
Images
Most of our game images come from the AP and Getty via Yahoo Warrior image feeds.
by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 7, 2007 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
It's not nice to call people "prick"
by KCBS Warrior Fan on Mar 7, 2007 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
dot dot dot.

Playoffs in '07, baby!
by coma @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 7, 2007 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
by KCBS Warrior Fan on Mar 7, 2007 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
lol

Playoffs in '07, baby!
by coma @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 7, 2007 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Try reading the actual quote
Clearly he's only marginally talented, but because he plays hard and generally makes good decisions, he's a serviceable backup. Calling him spoiled, or whiny, or any other irrelevant thing is just rationalization for the real issue, which is that he's a bust. You can't directly blame him for his draft position so you invent reasons to hate him. Relative to the rest of the league, most evidence points to him being a fine teammate.
Though the money made the trade worth it for us, basketball-wise, it was a wash at best. Harrington is completely one-dimensional. At his best, he's a decent scorer, at worst a ball-hog who kills continuity and doesn't create for anyone else. Jackson is a little better at creating for others, but he takes a lot of bad shots and is questionable, at best, in the locker room.
by Carney04 on Mar 7, 2007 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Check my thoughts on Dunleavy, Harrington, and Jax
http://goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/1/20/635/11174
by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 7, 2007 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
balance
In terms of b-ball IQ, you don't give him any credit, but what many basketball players don't understand or see is that a good passer doesn't necessarily have to get a lot of assists, although that may too occur. A good passer can just be someone who recognizes opportunities and gets the ball to the right place. It can be quickly passing the ball up the floor to someone on the wing, who then makes the defense scramble, resulting in a basket by someone else. Or getting the ball in the right position (either by dribbling or passing) to make an entry pass to the post. Those kinds of things are invaluable even though they don't show up in the stats and they do show that someone has a good basketball IQ.
by Carney04 on Mar 7, 2007 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
All Good
I respect that you disagree with my analysis of Dunleavy. It's not an exact science.
by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 7, 2007 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
In fairness
Don't really want to re-hash the old "what is about Dunleavy?" debate, except to say that there was clearly something above and beyond his mediocre game that annoyed people. Again, the Foyle comparison: also a high, wasted first round pick, also a bad contract, also a disappointment as a player, but somehow much more beloved by fans. Obviously I don't know them personally, but for me Foyle always comes off as thoughtful and a good guy, while Dunleavy always seemed petulant and whiny. Sure, the fact that he's a privileged, white son-of-a-coach who went to Duke doesn't help his case. And those "Drunkleavy" photos that were posted here a few weeks ago just cemented my image of him as a spoiled, obnoxious fratboy (sorry if I offended any in the GSoM Greek community).
Still, when he was "one of us" I did try to refrain from hating on him too much. IIRC, one of my earliest posts here was questioning the incessant Dunleavy bashing that went on here. But as long as he's gone, and continuing to make smartass remarks about the Ws and Ws fans, I figure he's totally fair game for flaming. All in good fun, of course.
Those fans are wrong.
Outside of where he was picked, I think his body language was probably a factor. The only time he showed emotion was when he was whining about a call. Still, I think it was mostly his on-court failures that made people not like him. He was supposed to be a scorer and clearly he's not.
Again, the Foyle comparison: also a high, wasted first round pick, also a bad contract, also a disappointment as a player, but somehow much more beloved by fans. Obviously I don't know them personally, but for me Foyle always comes off as thoughtful and a good guy, while Dunleavy always seemed petulant and whiny. Sure, the fact that he's a privileged, white son-of-a-coach who went to Duke doesn't help his case. And those "Drunkleavy" photos that were posted here a few weeks ago just cemented my image of him as a spoiled, obnoxious fratboy (sorry if I offended any in the GSoM Greek community).
Foyle vs. Dunleavy isn't really fair. For one, Dun was picked 3rd, which is high lottery. That carries different expectations. Second, their styles of play are very different and lead to the impression that one is overachieving while the other is underachieving. Foyle is obviously limited, so any positives he gives are the result of hustle and selling out. Fans appreciate that kind of stuff (and they should). Dun, otoh, seems like he should be better than he is and fans are disappointed. And that's fine, but objectively, even with his limitations, Dun is a more productive player than Foyle. And if you're a fan of the team, you should recognize that.
As for personalities, who cares? Foyle is obviously much more worldly and intellectual. I'd definitely pick him over Dun in a debate or even just to hang out with. A friend of mind smoked a blunt with Foyle at a club in San Fran, which is awesome (I was suprised to hear it, but as he said, "I'm from the Islands, man"). But fans who are rooting for or against personalities have it wrong. Its about basketball, and unless someone's personality is hurting the team, it doesn't matter in the slightest.
by Carney04 on Mar 7, 2007 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
get out of here
the premise of almost every argument you made about him, is his draft position. i have news for you buddy, Azubuike, who was not even drafted, is a better player than Dunleavy is or ever was. Think about that before you type another comment which is obviously biased and opinionated probably because you identify with Dunleavy on some sort of personal level, not because he was any sort of respectable player.

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY
Reading comprehension
You're delusional. I didn't start this diary. My initial comment was actually to wonder why so many so-called fans are such haters. I think it says more about them, or should I say "you", then it does the player they're talking about.
If you're really objective about it, and understand what good, winning basketball is about, then you can separate personality from value (the exception being when someone's personality actually hurts the team).
the premise of almost every argument you made about him, is his draft position. i have news for you buddy, Azubuike, who was not even drafted, is a better player than Dunleavy is or ever was. Think about that before you type another comment which is obviously biased and opinionated probably because you identify with Dunleavy on some sort of personal level, not because he was any sort of respectable player.
Again, delusional. I mentioned draft position, but also style of play and statistical value (or lack thereof). Just so you know, it helps to read something before you respond to it. You may learn that better next year, when you start high school.
And as for Azubuike, what is your point? He was actually a really good college player, and I was surprised he wasn't picked. NBA GMs consistently take potential and good workouts over proven college guys, which doesn't make sense, and has been widely criticized. How does Arenas fall to where he did?
My point was that Dun was a bust at #3 and that's one of the reasons people disliked him so much. What does that have to do with Azubuike? Again, say it with me this time, READING COMPREHENSION.
by Carney04 on Mar 8, 2007 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know....
Your personal bias
It also explains why you attack people's READING COMPREHENSION in a freakin forum. What's next, you're gonna tell me the SAT's are fair? lol.
You're ridiculous.

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY
And that isn't an attack

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY
Its sad
But to save you some future embarrassment, let me just say this. The "dominant cultural bias" exists in all cultures and sub-cultures. It shouldn't be used haphazardly or as an excuse because you didn't take the time to understand what I was saying. Nothing that I said requires that you have any particular class or race. It just requires that you read and comprehend it. There are many things in Oakland that are obstacles and that marginalize poorer folks, and those things are serious and shouldn't be trivialized. If you were from the town or you were a product of the OPS, you'd realize that and wouldn't say what you said.
by Carney04 on Mar 9, 2007 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
I'm honored!!!!
Thanks man! And props to you on that awesome wheaties box.

It ain't EASY, stoppin' TOO EASY
haha
by 24k state fan since 87 on Mar 7, 2007 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Really what do you expect him to
I never hated him as much as others did I guess. I still think he is going to be a decent player. I guess I always felt his limitation were more physical than anything
For some reason I disliked Murphy way more.
I'd expect him to say
If he were, you know, a basically good guy, I'd expect him to say what any basically good guy would say: "I had a great time on the Warriors and I wish them and their fans the best, but I'm happy here now and I'm moving on..."
I probably preferred Dunleavy's game to Murphy's, but from everything I read/saw, I liked Murphy the person a million times better better than Junior.

The illegitimate child of Murphleavy?
I take a different stance.
i'm even happier that he's gone and we have TMNT and SJax, though. :)
I guess.....
The fact is that we have Harrington and Jackson now and they are starting to play great for the Warriors, so everybody's happy.

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