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RECAP: Warriors 116, Grizzlies 104 - Whatever It Takes


Flyin' High



At this point in the season, the Warriors just have to do whatever they have to do in order to get a win. Ugly wins are still wins. They can't all be beautiful games like the Phoenix win or the Houston win. But finally, what I can confidently say is that the Warriors are beating teams they should beat and that they are a team to be reckoned even on the road. This team is not the same team that got slaughtered in Cleveland or in Atlanta. This team is on hot right now and at the right time. This team sits one game out of the last spot and has the Clippers, Nuggets, and Lakers scared because if either of those teams slip, the Warriors are right there to take their place in the playoffs.

Before I write anything about the Popeye Jones-ness of the game, here's what Nellie had to say.

"It was a hard win for us, really. We didn't attack their zone the first half at all, so we saw it all second half. They played us well; I was surprised. I didn't want to lose this game going into San Antonio. I wanted to play everyone 48 minutes. The bench did well. This keeps us going. It gives us a free swing at San Antonio. I told the team it didn't matter if everyone fouled out. They had to leave it on the floor. This was a must win."

I never blame the refs for a loss because good teams don't make excuses, but it feels like something fishy is going on. Maybe this is a Warriors theme, but it seems like the refs just don't want the Warriors to win and make the playoffs. At one point during the game, Nellie said to the ref, "You can't call a foul every time they go to the basket. They've shot about 45 free throws." It got so bad that Nellie got a technical for arguing a little too much with the refs. Sometimes a coach has to make a point to the refs to let them know. But you know what? This team is determined to win and is going win despite the calls going against us. That's what good teams do. They win despite adversity by making the necessary plays to win the game.

So with calls seeming to go the Grizzlies way, the Warriors shot far less free throws the Grizzlies, 25 for the Warriors, 37 for the Grizzlies. This really isn't surprising because every game, the Warriors shoot less free throws than their opponent. Why? First, as mentioned above, they just don't seem to get the calls. The Warriors haven't earned the respect of the officials and they have to earn it. That's what they're doing now by winning. Also, the players have to play hard no matter what happens. A second reason for the free throw disparity is that the run and gun style that the Warriors play doesn't get them a lot of free throw opportunities. This team takes a ton of 3 pointers, 36 tonight versus the Grizzlies 12. You rarely see people get fouled shooting 3 pointers. They also take a lot of mid range jumpers, again jump shots don't get you to the line. Additionally, many of their points come on fast breaks where they get an easy bucket or lay the ball in without making contact with a defender. Lastly, I question whether Nellie really wants to shoot a lot of free throws. They probably slow the game down so much that the Warriors lose their run and gun advantage.

Back to the game. Those turnovers, all 23 of them, nearly cost the Warriors the game. The only reason those didn't come back to bite the Warriors is because Memphis had 28 turnovers. The Warriors were sloppy with the ball tonight JRich had 5, Stephen Jackson with 4, and Baron with 8. On the flip side, this team is so active on defense now that they're creating many turnovers and causing havoc for the opposing team's offense. That's what a running team needs, the ability to disrupt the other team's offense and get them to play the way the Warriors want to play. That's what happened tonight and the better running team won.




It's my night

Tonight was all about Baron. He did it all tonight. He scored, he rebounded, he passed, and he won. He had a ton of turnovers, but he led this team tonight with his all around court game. His 31 points, 8 rebounds, 9 assists and 4 steals, were crazy. He carried the team tonight.

But he got a lot of help from his friends. Stephen Jackson chipped in with 7 helpers and 4 steals once again proving that he has some of the best vision and passing ability on this team. Monta Ellis was big tonight as well. His 20 points, 8 rebounds, and 8 assists tonight were actually statistically better than Baron because he had just 2 turnovers. Each night, everyone is giving it their all and when one player struggles (Al Harrington tonight) another one picks up the slack. Again, this the sign of a good team.

The Warriors nearly gave the game away. At one point in the 2nd quarter, the Warriors were up 10 points only to see the Grizzlies close out the quarter with a strong run to cut the lead to one heading into the half. Apparently, Nellie wasn't too happy about this. Here's what Stephen Jackson had to say, "We're taking it one game at a time. I'm glad tonight we had a rough game. It's not easy. We haven't made the playoffs in a while. Good teams finally get wins when they play hard, that's what the NBA is about. Coach [Don Nelson] came and got into us at the half. I'm glad he did."

This game looked an awful lot like the one played in Oakland last Sunday. The Grizzlies wouldn't go away and had a 4th quarter lead. But just like last Sunday, the Warriors staged a 4th quarter rally to secure a lead that they would not give up. Thanks to the 36-22 4th quarter, the Warriors were able to close the game out and go home with their 4th straight W.

Andris Biedrins twisted his ankle in the 3rd quarter but was able to return in the 4th to help close out the game. For tomorrow's game against the Spurs he will not be 100% but they're going to need him to play to have a better chance to win.

The Warriors desperately needed two wins on this 3 game road trip to stay alive in the playoff race, they've got that now. This upcoming game is like a free game for the Warriors. Most people didn't expect them to win all 3 games, but now that they've won 2, they can exceed expectations by taking down the Spurs for their 5th win in a row. 2 wins were expected, 3 wins will put some major pressure on the Clips.



Tonight's Warrior Wonder is Baron Davis. He had a big game and was the spark plug tonight. He's the leader of this team and his 42 minutes tonight made sure the Warriors got the win. Only 6 games to go and Warriors Nation is ready to explode. We bleed lightning bolts. Go Dubs.

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how about
a winning record on a road trip. when's the last time that happened? but damn the bball gods hate us. can the nuggets or clippers please lose? i guess one of them will lose tomorrow but with our luck it will be the nuggets

by AJC3317 on Apr 6, 2007 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Absolutely no respect for Kobe...
Scoring 48 against the Sonics?! Where was that against the Clips, you a$$hole!?

by OaktownRajah on Apr 6, 2007 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

great write up.
agree with every word in there. one part perked my ears up tho: about earning trips to the line and respect from the refs...memphis has earned what this year? how much did kinsey earn in his 6 games? it's conspiracy at it's finest, the NBA will make more money if both LA teams are in, and denver carries two players with extreme marketability. don't they realize the bay area's the fourth largest sports market in the us???

just kidding about that, but seriously the warriors get no love from refs, and it's happened so much in recent games, i'm just glad we won most of them. i think the utah game screwed us with the officiating, but by golly we'll get that one back. i'll be there to make sure.

is anyone else just looking past the spurs??? i'm gonna watch due to my extreme loyalty, but does anyone in the whole world have the warriors winning this one?? anyone?

by sandstorm on Apr 6, 2007 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

NBA referees are consistantly terrible
I don't really think the warriors are out to get us, they just make pretty bad calls all the way around. How about Gasol's "foul" on barons baseline drive for a dunk in the 4th?

by SkipT on Apr 7, 2007 12:00 AM PDT reply actions  

This game was an exception
the refs were just horrible both ways. I am amazed we managed to get any fastbreak points with the amount of fouls they were calling.

Anyone notice how much better we've gotten on free throws lately?

by racsan on Apr 7, 2007 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

YOU GOTTA BE...
kidding me. Denver beat the Mavs?! Man, these teams are throwing games so the Dubs can't get in.....

by wander7 on Apr 7, 2007 12:49 AM PDT reply actions  

We bleed lightning bolts. Go Dubs
I love it!!!! hahaha.. .great job, preview AND recap, and the W's win, ur becoming my favorite poster bro!

1 Dub!


If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Apr 7, 2007 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Regarding the Refs
I've thought that the calls have gone to the opposing team ever since Nellie spoke up to the press about bad officiating after the Wizards game where we lost because of the T at the end.  It seems that soon after that game the Warriors consistantly got a raw deal with the whistles.

Anyway, I thought the game was pretty good.  Man, that Memphis crowd was pathetic!  I loved Baron's heart and hustle playing through that nasty fall.  And Peitrus's dunk over Gasol was beautiful.

by RonG on Apr 7, 2007 10:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Really..
In all seriousness...I dont think the Mavs care about 70 wins...I think they care more about the Warriors not making the playoffs, cause they KNOW how well we play them. Cuban is behind this, Im like 85% sure the Mavs threw that game, and will do the same against the Clips.

by gswrico on Apr 7, 2007 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Great Game, But. . .
This team will NOT make the playoffs; the road is just too uphill at this point.  And, as for tonight, there's virtually no chance -- on paper, anyway: The W's are on the second night of a BTB; they're playing the best, hottest team in the leaugue; they play AT SA; SA didn't play last night; they match up poorly with this team; BD will be tired (and hurting from that fall); AB is hurting; AH is off his game; the team hasn't won in SA in years; only eight W's played last night -- and only one non-starter got 20 minutes, etc. etc. etc.  If they're very lucky, they'll keep it relatively close -- but don't be surprised by a blowout.

So, what to do?  Enjoy this run; shoot for a 41-41 season (four wins are unlikely, but still doable); and start thinking about how to add an NBA four for next season, which can put these guys in a fully competitive position.  It HAS been a good year.  Let's appreciate that.  But ginning things up like the playoffs are a reality (or that even if the team could scrape their way to them -- which they won't -- they'd have anything left for Dallas) just makes no sense.  Reality strikes!  Might as well accept it, guys.

by johnl on Apr 7, 2007 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

No need at add
An add would be nice, but barring any unforseen injuries, (which i know is a problem we've had), we would be ok.

We're 11-4 in the last 15, in an 82 game season that's on track for 60 wins... subtract a few for injuries, and um... I think we'd be competitive next season.  That's just me.


If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Apr 7, 2007 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Understatement
We are going to be a VERY COMPETITIVE team next year! I'm thinking 2nd in our division giving PHX a little scare.

by Psion on Apr 7, 2007 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

BESIDES
while a win tonight would be HUGE its not really a must win.  they can still lose one, maybe maybe 2 from here on out.  if the clipps can struggle a bit, then we're right in it.  Anything can happen

by travisl212 on Apr 7, 2007 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

and quit acting like
your a freakin genius and you know way more then us.  you think we don't know its going to be extremely tough and it is unlikely.

by travisl212 on Apr 7, 2007 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, please!
Geez, it has nothing to do with anything other than reality.  So what's your beef?  I made no criticism of the team, the coach, or any player; simply said they didn't have a chance against the Spurs tonight.  Duh!  

I also said they should go for a 41-41 season (that's figuring on the loss tonight and most likely a loss at Dallas, but winning the rest -- which is no easy feat).  Frankly, if the team could hit this mark -- and that's what I'm hoping -- it'd be a lot more impressive than making the playoffs with an under .500 record (which just means there's a lot of weak teams in your division and you're going home in the first round, anyway).  Why not let's earn it?  All we need is that one missing piece.

by johnl on Apr 7, 2007 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was talking about
you saying that the warriors will not make the playoffs.  they deleted an earlier comment i posted saying screw you for shooting them down and not even stating it as an opinion.  while it doesnt look likely its still possible especially if the clips lose and the nuggets should have lost last night.  i knew this game was highly improbable.  i just didnt like how you said the warriors are not making the playoffs and basically said that everyone who thinks they have a shot is a fool

by travisl212 on Apr 7, 2007 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pick it up, travisl
You've got to start paying attention to what's actually said -- not simply react from the emotional state you are in when you read it.  I didn't engage in any name-calling; nor did I say anyone was a "fool" who thinks the W's have a "shot" at the playoffs.  Mathematically, they do; realistically, they don't -- and haven't since they lost the Lakers game.  They just didn't have much of a shot at beating the Spurs because so much was against them.  In short, I said -- forget about them making the playoffs, enjoy how well they're playing on its own terms, and hope they pick up a legitimate four next year.  All comments of mine were substantively based; none were of the entirely useless "screw you" variety.  (That kind of unsupported comment is never either convincing or salutary -- it's analysis that's fun, because there usua;;y isn't one right answer in life.)

What's irksome is to have posters simply rant -- and offer puerile, ad hominem attacks -- without making any substantive comments about the team, the players, the coach or the game.  Fans who truly love the game look to understand what is happening and why, not merely at who might be saying things (or drawing conclusions) that differ from their own biases.

So, to be blunt: You don't have to like the comment of another, but please be substantive in supporting your own.  (See e.g. Atma's excellant riposte that it's not just the W's inability to win out, but that the Clips (and the Nuggets, for that matter) have been playing much better the past two weeks than anyone would have thought.  THAT'S substantive -- because it supports a point and isn't mere knee-jerk, blogger ranting of the "so's your old lady" type.)  We'll all have more fun with this -- and, perhaps, learn some things -- if we can freely share our thoughts about the "game" -- instead of each other.  OK?

by johnl on Apr 8, 2007 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sad but true
It's not over yet, but we have have to give a ton of credit to the Clips. They've lost both their PG's but they're still playing tough and winning games. The Clips are still big time underachievers this season, but I give them props for some solid play down the stretch.

In the end I think what's going to haunt the Warriors is that they didn't really take advantage of that home-loaded schedule in the early going. A playoff team wouldn't just be hovering around .500 after that gift- they'd be several games OVER .500. I know it's beyond Mullin and Higgins' control, but if that trade with the Pacers came sooner we might be IN the playoffs right now too.

Still, this team is on the way up and I really couldn't say that at this point last year. A real NBA 4 is all that's keeping this team from a guaranteed trip to the playoffs next season. Just hope Oden and Durant don't end up in the West!

by Atma Brother ONE on Apr 7, 2007 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopeful Scenario
I'm gonna say forget about catching the Lakers or Denver.  We're 2.5 back from Denver and 3 back from the Lakers.  I won't even include the Hornets into the equation since they stand 2 back from us.  Here's my hopeful scenario:

Clippers
Denver - L
@ Dallas - L
@ New Orleans - L
@ LA Lakers - L
Portland - W
Sacramento - W
@ Phoenix - L
New Orleans - W
Season Ends at 40-42

Warriors
@ San Antonio - L
Utah - W
@ Sacramento - W
Minnesota - W
Dallas - L
@ Portland - W
Season Ends at 41-41

by AntiLaker on Apr 7, 2007 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Go Dubs!
Really appreciate the in-depth review of the game from GSoM and the added commentary from all the fans.  I know this game against the Spurs looks very difficult, but let's go for it!  This "It's not a must-win" attitude is for lamers.  We need every game.  Let's rattle the spurs.

by walkerp on Apr 7, 2007 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

SHAMELESS PLUG
I thought this team would rock 16-8 a while back when jrich was finally coming back, but that even w/the impressive record, we wouldnt crack the postseason.  I underestimated how badly the teams ahead of us would play...and now we're right in the thick of it.   ALL GAMES NOT AGAINST THE ORIGINAL DREAMTEAM ARE WINNABLE AND MUST BE APPROACHED AS SUCH.  i love our chances tonite!

by GameSix on Apr 7, 2007 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's go Warriors!
I have a good feeling tonight against San Antonio. It might come down to the wire, but it definitely won't be a shut out game. I know we need this my prediction is the Warriors by 2.

by ally314 on Apr 7, 2007 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

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