Is this the Last Game we see Jason Richardson as a Warrior?
You know what deal seems nice? And not an absurd idea like trading for Milicic? JASON RICHARDSON PLUS the 18th Pick OR EITHER both of our 2nd round picks FOR PAU GASOL. It worked in Realgm.com And I See it working for both teams. Memphis needs scorers, next to Mike Miller, they have the 1st pick over-all and will like draft ODen or better yet Kevin Durant, so they really dont need Gasol who wanted to be traded out. If the want Al Harrington, maybe we can package it to them as well. I heard West is really high on him. Golden State Trade Breakdown Outgoing Jason Richardson 6-6 SG from Michigan State 16.0 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.4 apg in 32.9 minutes Incoming Pau Gasol 7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign) 20.8 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 3.4 apg in 36.1 minutes Change in team outlook: +4.8 ppg, +4.7 rpg, and 0.0 apg. Memphis Trade Breakdown Outgoing Pau Gasol 7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign) 20.8 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 3.4 apg in 36.1 minutes Incoming Jason Richardson 6-6 SG from Michigan State 16.0 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.4 apg in 32.9 minutes Change in team outlook: -4.8 ppg, -4.7 rpg, and 0.0 apg. Successful Scenario Due to Golden State and Memphis being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Golden State and Memphis had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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Gasol
by bayagrow on
May 16, 2007 3:23 AM PDT
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Maybe so..
ALL G-DUB!
by jaybee764 on
May 16, 2007 9:31 AM PDT
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I can't see Memphis taking J-rich
I would make the J_rich for AB trade in a second
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 10:14 AM PDT
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no never
LORD BARON
by nfisch88 on
May 16, 2007 3:29 AM PDT
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I disagree
More Hardware Coming!
by gsw4life on
May 16, 2007 10:37 AM PDT
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or Lets trade Cabbage,
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 10:53 AM PDT
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memphis would disagree
ALL G-DUB!
by jaybee764 on
May 16, 2007 10:54 AM PDT
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what about
LORD BARON
by nfisch88 on
May 16, 2007 11:58 AM PDT
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I know sarcasm doesn't always come out that well
More Hardware Coming!
by gsw4life on
May 19, 2007 1:57 AM PDT
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pietrus is an unknown...
LORD BARON
by nfisch88 on
May 16, 2007 2:44 PM PDT
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OK
Pietrus plus #18 for Gasol? Teams will want Pietrus because he's an "unknown"?
Please, don't stop ... after yesterday's game, I need a good laugh...
by Sleepy Freud on
May 16, 2007 3:25 PM PDT
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I say trade him
by Raw26 on
May 16, 2007 4:29 AM PDT
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monta
I'm not saying that i'm so blinded by my JR love that i'd never trade him. But we better be getting something damn good in return. And i agree that Gasol is soft, not to mention whiney. Give me someone with skill AND heart. Then it won't be so bad trading someone like JR.
by dirrty on
May 16, 2007 8:45 AM PDT
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You can't get too attached to players for success!
You can't depend on someone who is inconsistant, lacks defensive skills, not looking to take it to the hole when your team is counting on you. Comparison: I think J Rich is way better over-all then Fish but look who guided their team to the victories when their team needed them most.
If J Rich and a few other incentives could be bargained for a young, up-coming, (6'11,250 lb.+)low post player who can consistantly put up 15+ points, 11+ boards, and 2 to 3 blocks per game as well as blend in well with the Warrior transistion type of running game, I say they need to invest in their future play-off runs.
PS- I also like Chuck Hayes since he graduated from my old high school at MC (lots of exciting potential that he has not displayed at the NBA level yet. Works very well in a quick, up tempo, running transition game).
by whiterushen on
May 16, 2007 6:21 AM PDT
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Reality check
- Milicic for Richardson is not an "absurd idea." Their trade value around the league is probably close to equal. If anything, Darko has more value because of his size and potential.
- Pau Gasol for Jason Richardson + #18 ... now that's absurd. Jerry West may dangle Gasol, but if he did he could do a lot better than that.
- There is no way Jerry West, or any NBA GM, is "really high" on Al Harrington.
- You do know about a little thing called the draft lottery ... right? Your assumption that Memphis is guaranteed the top pick pretty much discredits anything else you have to say about the NBA.
- You capitalize way too much and the second half of your post reads like a CNN stock market crawl. Seriously, "Thaddeus Young," are you an actual sentient human being or just an automated computer program that spits out sports-related spam onto this board? Inquiring minds want to know.
by Sleepy Freud on
May 16, 2007 6:21 AM PDT
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Why not
I know after what he's done in the two playoffs series it could be impossible, but I'd rather keep JRich than Jack.
by WarriorFanForLife on
May 16, 2007 6:24 AM PDT
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Because no one..
And I agree with everyone else it would be nice to trade a two guard for a legit post presence but its just not going to happen
by dallaswarrior on
May 16, 2007 9:58 AM PDT
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cha-cha-cha
by GameSix on
May 16, 2007 7:27 AM PDT
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By not giving up talent for gasol
by GameSix on
May 16, 2007 10:43 AM PDT
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Your right this league is
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 10:56 AM PDT
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ok zig
You seem to be his prime defender in this diary. My whole thing is we shouldn't give up our talent for a second-tier big man. He can't even crack 20 pts per game and the offense has been DESIGNED to run through him in Memphis.
To trade FOR gasol would mean sending biendris to them. Period. Why would you want to do that?
by GameSix on
May 16, 2007 1:10 PM PDT
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I wouldn't trade AB
I would consider Monta and I would be happy to trade J-Rich
Gasol is an AllStar. Second rate meaning he is not a superstar?
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 2:22 PM PDT
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actually, i'd take gasol or notitzski
and really, there aren't many options at all for a dominant big man that is available. gasol is one of the few. don't be too idealistic about what we can actually put together.
by OaktownWarrior on
May 16, 2007 11:15 AM PDT
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Just because it works on
Thats like the cardinal sin trading, you NEVER trade a big for a small. In this case, you're suggesting that Memphis trades their legit low post player (these are very rare in the NBA), with very little mileage on him.... for a 2 Guard (the easiest position to fill in the NBA), that is no longer the athletic freak he used to be after his knee surgery, is an average defender, and has a horrible handle.
Memphis already has a player like Jrich... in Mike Miller... only Mike Miller is a better, more consistent shooter. Shooting guards grow off trees, legit 7'0 post players do not. If you're gonna be making possible trade ideas, make them freaing realistic. To get Gasol, the Warriors would probably have to give up at least 3 perimeter players and one of them would probably have to be Baron.
Marv Albert: "I ain't trippin'!"
by ZombieWarrior on
May 16, 2007 8:48 AM PDT
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The only trade I think can happen...
This is jsut too much to give up. I havent checked the salaries or anything like that but logically I am assuming that we have to give up this much talent to get Garnett.
When its all said and done I think we are going to have pretty much the same team next year. Lets be patient. Ellis is going to improve along with Biedrins and we are going to learn to play together better as well.
Be patient we can get better by improving over the offseason and working on team chemistry.
As for the offseason we need to make a few draft picks for guys who can give us minutes right away. We also need to sign a few under the radar types who fit in Nelsons system. Our problem in our playoff run is we ran out of gas. WE NEED DEPTH TO MAKE A LONG RUN IN THE PLAYOFFS
Get rid of Jeri(whatever his name is sorry cant spell it) and buyout foyle, let pietrus walk, resign barnes, and grab a few athletic freaks that dont fit in to anyone elses system.
by dallaswarrior on
May 16, 2007 10:06 AM PDT
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Two players I wouldn't trade on
Otherwise I would be willing to let anyone else go in the right deal, even Monta
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 10:16 AM PDT
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Change Nothing!!
by Cutchpuck on
May 16, 2007 10:38 AM PDT
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Nellie ball
Notice that their legs were gone these last two games.
The West is tough to keep even where they are at they need to get bigger and deeper
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 10:57 AM PDT
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agreed
He hustles, rebounds, and generally plays bigger than his height suggests. However he doesn't have much perimeter game so maybe Nellie won't like him.
by MightyReds2020 on
May 16, 2007 11:14 AM PDT
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Two things
The Grizzlies won't trade Gasol until after the lottery. If they get Oden, they're not trading Gasol. They have their starting frontcourt set for the next 10 years if they get Oden.
More Hardware Coming!
by gsw4life on
May 16, 2007 10:44 AM PDT
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I hope not
by Phil T28 on
May 16, 2007 10:45 AM PDT
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you're right
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 10:58 AM PDT
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J-Rich needs to work..
ALL G-DUB!
by jaybee764 on
May 16, 2007 11:03 AM PDT
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Forgot about Harrington
by Phil T28 on
May 16, 2007 10:47 AM PDT
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you realize he has been in the league
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 10:58 AM PDT
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hes only
LORD BARON
by nfisch88 on
May 16, 2007 12:08 PM PDT
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I'm saying he is what he is
He is a nice face up shooter and can even create off of a few dribbles
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 2:24 PM PDT
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ummm
LORD BARON
by nfisch88 on
May 16, 2007 2:42 PM PDT
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I should restate that
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 4:05 PM PDT
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and your last point isn't what I see
by Zig on
May 16, 2007 4:06 PM PDT
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hmmm
by TempletonPeck on
May 16, 2007 6:04 PM PDT
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TO TRADE OR NOT TO TRADE...
If we can trade anyone but BARON, I say DO IT! There's been a lot of talk about getting ARTEST and trading JRICH for a BIG MAN. Now tell me, would this starting line-up look that bad?
PG - BARON
SG - ARTEST
SF - JAX
PF - MILICIC/HARRINGTON
C - BIEDRINS/MILICIC
And coming off the bench you still have MONTA, POWELL, BUKE, and whoever else. I mean again, it's whether or not anyone would trade w/ us, not if we should or shouldn't.
The answer is WE SHOULD. Anything that will make the team better! I love JRICH and all, but I think we've seen all we have from him! As a person he's great, as an athlete he's great, but in the overall scheme of things, we need more defense and rebounding and he's not the guy, and he'd probably have more value than most on our team (aside from BARON, MONTA and BIEDRINS).
"If you build around them...they will come!"
by scottiepimppen on
May 16, 2007 11:16 AM PDT
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ya great idea...
Just because we lost doesnt mean we need to blow up the world lets keep our team together and make some moves to make us deeper. If we can go 10 deep and run our asses off we will be really good
by dallaswarrior on
May 16, 2007 1:36 PM PDT
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Now you're talking
Baron
Monta
Artest
Biedrins
Darko
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Jackson
Barnes
Azubuike
Backup PG (maybe Acie Law with the #18?)
Powell
by Sleepy Freud on
May 16, 2007 3:39 PM PDT
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random suggestion
by dj fuzzylogic on
May 16, 2007 11:48 AM PDT
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Can Magloire keep up??
ALL G-DUB!
by jaybee764 on
May 16, 2007 11:49 AM PDT
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yea, he's not the quickest dude
He's got decent post moves (infinitely better than anyone we got now...) and could try to D up opposing bigs better than what we got. I think he just hasn't been given the consistent minutes to contribute... but usually former all-stars traded a few times tend to lose that fire... so.. dunno
by dj fuzzylogic on
May 16, 2007 11:55 AM PDT
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word...
AWESOME BABY! AWESOME! - NELLIE
by jaybee764 on
May 17, 2007 6:06 PM PDT
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jrich is not the best player for nellieball style
however, i think the consensus among fans here would be that in the more structured offenses we have seen from this organization the previous 4+ years, jrich has been the most dependable, clutch player/performer in a warriors jersey. sure he did not always come through, but i can remember more than a few bungled endings by baron as well.
it might be good for jrich to be traded and it might even be better for the warriors, but i will continue to root for him.
by stedanko on
May 16, 2007 1:54 PM PDT
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jackson isnt good either
by stevenro59 on
May 16, 2007 3:08 PM PDT
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baron davis and pau gasol
useless players
adonal foyle
runas
pietrus
by stevenro59 on
May 16, 2007 3:06 PM PDT
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jrich for milicic
by llamalimbo1 on
May 16, 2007 3:51 PM PDT
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Where do you get
Granted, that was 3-4 years ago; since then he's filled out a little and become more of a true post player. He may not be quite as quick as AB, but then what 7-footers are? At age 21, Darko's already an excellent shotblocker (2.93 blocks per 40 minutes) and a solid rebounder (9.2 reb/40 mins); and I suspect his offense would improve greatly on an uptempo team. I mean, a year ago AB was considered a worse player than Darko, and look how much he improved under Nellie.
I'd be really sad to lose JRich, but I think if that deal is offered, you have to pull the trigger and not look back. JRich is what he is: a better-than-average NBA shooting guard who will never be Jordan or Kobe or Wade. Darko's no guarantee, but he has the potential to take this team to the next level. As I said before, the Duncans and Boozers of this world would have a lot harder time of it with two quick, athletic 7-footers patrolling the paint.
by Sleepy Freud on
May 16, 2007 4:17 PM PDT
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I don't think he has it in him
You've noticed in the fantasy game this season Darko hasn't been consistent from game to game, even with consistent PT.
And as you know, the fantasy game is all about being consistent! Do you take TJ Ford on a current hot streak of 25 and 12 for a week or spend 2-3 mil more and get Nash who will get 20-12 every game, no matter what?
by back2back51s on
May 16, 2007 4:31 PM PDT
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You may be right
It's definitely a crapshoot: there's no guarantee Darko will be one of the ones who gets it. I'm just saying that with Monta, Jax, Barnes, and Kelenna on the roster, and plenty of talented wingmen available at #18, I'd probably be willing to sacrifice JRich for even a 50% chance a getting a Biedrins Part Deux.
But hey, about that GSoM Fantasy League ... did Fantasy Junkie ever post a recap? All that hard work and buildup, and then nary a mention when it was said and done! I mean, jeez, the way the Fantasy League was dissed, you'd think the Warriors had made a crazy late-season run and gotten into the playoffs or something...
Anyway, Fantasy, if you're reading: I'm still waiting for my GSoM t-shirt and my all-expenses paid wild night of passion with Jessica Alba. That is, unless you already gave it to the cheater who ended up in "first place"...
by Sleepy Freud on
May 16, 2007 4:58 PM PDT
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The prize was a T-shirt yeah
First place prize for our trade buying fiend = the $126 million dollar man KG and no playoffs. Also Mark "break it down" Madsen.
Moving a big man from team to team every 2 years or so probably doesn't help them get in that groove. See, I dunno, Eddy Curry. He is a prospect, but is he speedy like Claxton? Can he move in the system that Nellie has started?
Will the team slow down into more half court motions with cuts and nifty screening and passing that enables JRich to be the man he was only a season ago? He's very good in a half court offense, how soon people forget due to the Nellie ball return of run and gun. Would trading for Darko keep Nellieball in place and thus, matchup problems due to not running?
True big men don't usually run like Amare and Marion. That's the basic problem, front and center.
Rebounding athletic freaks of nature that will run and hustle for 48 minutes aren't as in the league in numbers like big men either, and the former is pretty important to the Warriors system.
by back2back51s on
May 16, 2007 5:12 PM PDT
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Why Darko? Why not Vlade?
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/vladimir_radmanovic/
He's a talented ballhandler, a great passing power forward a fine rebounder, and a solid defender. At 6-10, 234 Radmanovic doesn't have the typical size in a power forward, he does a good job defending the post. I've seen him in the past holding his own against Miami's Alonzo Mourning.. He could do the same with the Boozers and Duncans come playoff time..
And since the Lakers are itching to get rid of him since his snowboard accident, why not? Besides, he'd love the fact that Tahoe's slopes aren't too far from the bay.. lol!
AWESOME BABY! AWESOME! - NELLIE
by jaybee764 on
May 17, 2007 6:24 PM PDT
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Jason has also gotten better every year
Dwight Howard and Darko on the block hasn't worked at all and Darko was getting enough chances with games of 30+ mins a night.
Practically non existent versus Detroit, which plays a much meaner game than Utah. And he definitely could have been a difference maker when there's Dwight, Grant "now over the" Hill, being the only two real options with Turkoglu being an up and comer working off their respective games.
by back2back51s on
May 16, 2007 4:28 PM PDT
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exactly
i am not saying he wont fit in somewhere, just not on this team or with this fanbase.
i said it already; i will be a lifelong fan of jrich and his willingness to step aside and be part of this squad rather than the defacto leader. however, jrich might be a better fit on a team where he does not have to run so hard on every possesion(like dallas or detroit) or be his own playmaker.
no matter what anyone says, i believe he is worth an even swap for a player of the same salary range because of his professional attitude, leadership and team play. not to mention he can rack up 20+ points and 6 rebounds per game.
by stedanko on
May 16, 2007 4:40 PM PDT
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Sarunas
by racsan on
May 16, 2007 4:50 PM PDT
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hey
by kenntoe on
May 17, 2007 12:49 AM PDT
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SEAN WILLIAMS
by Thaddeus Young on
May 17, 2007 7:36 AM PDT
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Dear Thaddeus Young,
Cut the crap.
- You already spammed us with that massive Sean Williams epic -- and both times you conveniently excised all the weaknesses and left in only the strengths.
- Nobody wants to sift through all that. Copy a couple of salient points and attach a link for people who want to read more.
- If you want to prove you're an actual human being with actual thoughts and feelings, try posting an opinion or two of your own rather than continually copying and pasting a whole ton of garbage.
by Sleepy Freud on
May 17, 2007 8:20 AM PDT
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