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Lottery format to change?

I'm still kind of numb from the lottery upset, but there is this article on Yahoo that caught my eye. Tom Canavan writes that:

The NBA may consider examining its draft lottery system after speculation some teams weren't trying their best to win late in the season, with the hope of improving their chances of getting the top pick... Stern said he likes the system but wasn't happy with the way some teams played down the stretch.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the "lose to win" mentality, even though it seems the most logical. This draft shows that "lose to win" won't necessarily even get you the top pick. If Stern wants to stop teams from tanking down the stretch, I wonder how he's going to do it. It's not possible to implement a rule, so do you think the lottery format will change? I'm thinking keep the general idea, more help for the greater need, but limit the disparity of lottery balls per team. Thoughts?

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I love the lottery
I love the lottery system because it doesn't necessarily guarantee the team with the worst record to land the No. 1 overall pick. That results as punishment for any teams trying to tank the season in landing the No. 1 pick. I forget what was the chances of the worst team to actually land the pick since the inception of the Draft Lottery. But whatever it is, teams just can't tank their seasons anymore. The NFL should implement a lottery as well. You can't and shouldn't reward teams for losing. I hope they never change it.

by Phil T28 on May 22, 2007 7:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure he means changes to the lottery
Like a reversion to the straight 14 ping pong balls variety. I think they should, it'd be awesome

by awesomer on May 22, 2007 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what I meant
was to do something about teams intentionally tanking just to get a good pick. It's a joke to basketball and it's a joke to the fans. Who would want to pay $60+ just to watch your team play its scrubs for half the game just to lose?

by Caught Backcourt on May 23, 2007 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lottery Format is Good
the way the Lottery is set up makes things as fair as possible and I like it.  Hopefully this year's draft order will stop teams from tanking again in the years to come, but I doubt it.  

There has to be some other way so that non-playoff teams still have an incentive to win.  Maybe they can make it so the best non-playoffs teams get a slight increase in the salary cap in the following year.  It would be just a little incentive to keep teams playing for something.  Just an idea

by jlagace on May 22, 2007 9:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like this
idea to offset the lottery...you either play for free agents or rookie draft picks...

by RubberDubDubs on May 23, 2007 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about
the team with the best record not to make the playoffs gets the most balls...and the rest of the teams have the normal lottery,  worst record gets second most and so on...

by RubberDubDubs on May 23, 2007 9:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope you're kidding
That's the worst lottery idea I've heard, and I've heard a lot of bad ones. ;-P

by Sleepy Freud on May 24, 2007 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

105 balls
This is what I would like to see. The team with the worst record gets 14 balls and the team with the best record, in the lottery, gets one ball. This makes it so the isn't much that hard to win if you like the 5th worst team, they get 9 balls. I think this makes it so you have know idea what pick you'll get.

by Psion on May 25, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lottery history
The original argument for a lottery was to prevent tanking.  By limiting the rewards for

And when the the odds didn't change that much, win or lose, there wasn't (statistically speaking, and yes, people have actually crunched the numbers) as much tanking as there was before.  But the really bad teams didn't think it was fair when a team that just barely missed the playoffs won the lottery, like when New York got Ewing and we got Mullin.  

So they weighted the lottery slightly and rewarded tanking, but not that much. This didn't please people though as the worst teams still didn't necessarily get the best pick.  And better teams could pick high in successive years with more regularity.  The strongest call against the low-weighted lottery (e.g. best team in lottery gets one chance, worst gets 14) came after Orlando won in back-to-back years.  The NBA didn't want this to happen again for some reason.  

So the NBA adopted a more skewed weighting system where the worst team had a 25% shot at the best pick, about double what it was in the previous minor weighted lottery.   This rewarded tanking more than before, but not as much as when there was not a lottery.  But it does reward it and there's clear evidence that it happens.  I doubt that a coach would deliberately throw games, but they'd definitely play guys who weren't that good with the "we have to see what we have" excuse, knowing very well that they've seen them not play well in practice and odds that these guys will suddenly play better in real games is low, low, low.  

So now tanking's seen as the problem and there's talk of modifying the lottery to not reward it.  

There's only one solution that I can see that minimizes the incentive to tank and gives really bad teams the competitive advantage to get higher picks which hopefully give them a shot at improving.  That's to weight the lottery, but not based on record of non-playoff teams in a particular season, but by number of consecutive years out of the playoffs (with the ties broken by record perhaps).  I can't see a team tanking successive seasons to win the lottery for unidentified players years down the line.  And yeah, when the Warriors hadn't been there in more than a decade, it would have been fairer than successive #9 picks destined to keep us picking #9.  It would have been fairer than seeing San Antonio luck into the #1 to get Duncan because Robinson had been hurt for a season, essentially winning the lottery in their only entry in a decade.

by jae on May 25, 2007 6:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i have no problem with a team
subtly tanking.  they should be able to play there young and inexperienced guys a lot more then normal.  whats the point of going all out and trying to win if your not in the playoffs.

by travisl212 on May 26, 2007 8:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no other sports that i can think
of have the draft lottery.  it all goes by record, and no1 has a problem with the NFL draft or anything.  JAE also has a great idea

by travisl212 on May 26, 2007 8:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

or what about if it was like college
football in a way... experts or whatever pick the best teams to play in the bowl games or however that works.  what if a team of experts had a say in who was the worst team, and most deserving of the #1 pick taking everything into consideration such as injuries, consecutive years with out the playoffs, ect.   just an idea

by travisl212 on May 26, 2007 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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