You're kidding, right?

Each one of your proposals is more outlandish than the previous. I especially like how you take trades that are already lopsided in our favor and then sneak in top 10 picks in the best draft in years, just to sweeten the pot a little.

Draft Express has Corey Brewer at #7 and Yi JianLian at #10. So, one of those two guys plus Kevin Garnett for JRich and a bunch of crap we don't want. Love it. Take out the Kevin Garnett part and Minnesota might consider it.

I love the enthusiasm and the idea of putting in trade scenarios but these are out of control

funniest one was when you said we would get bogut for pietris lol!

Now I'm not sure whether people are kidding or not. The last two trade suggestions aren't as ridiculous as the ones in the main diary, but they're still pretty ridiculous.

So far the only remotely non-ridiculous scenario I've read involving Garnett is the Adam Lauridsen one that DallasWarrior linked to earlier in the Garnett thread. The basics:

• Warriors give: Monta Ellis, Jason Richardson, Al Harrington, and Patrick O'Bryant
  
• Warriors get: Kevin Garnett, Carlos Arroyo
• Wolves give: Kevin Garnett
  
• Wolves get: Monta Ellis, Darko Milicic, Al Harrington, Patrick O'Bryant, and Keith Bogans.
• Magic give: Darko Milicic, Carlos Arroyo, Keith Bogans
  
• Magic get:  Jason Richardson

The financials all work, and Lauridsen actually takes the time to analyze it from all three teams' perspectives, something we all should do when proposing trades. I think his idea of turning JRich into Darko and spinning off Darko is an especially brilliant one: Orlando already has a dominating pivot, they're one of the very few teams in the NBA that actually needs a shooting guard, and Otis Smith is apparently a big fan of JRich. Whatever you may say about the merits of JRich v. Darko, I guarantee that Darko, as an athletic 21 y.o. 7-footer, has a ton more trade value to 95% of the teams in the league, including Minnesota. Someone needs to fax this deal to the front offices of the three teams immediately.

core? Let's keep it simple fellas. We did get to the 2nd round of the POs you know. Which means we're only a big or two away to make it to the finals. Why can't we just use the 18th and 2nd Rd picks wisely and grab athletic, rebound/defensive-minded bigs and a back-up true PG?

Really, if we had Milsap, we may have won the Jazz series.

We need a rebounder (a little offense is a plus) to relieve AB. Oftentimes the Ws subbed in Al for AB and we know this didn't work.

Now, I'm not gonna say that I did my homework on these PFs but perhaps the Ws mgmt may know more about these guys:

Sean Williams 6-10 235 PF BC Jr.
We all know what he can do.

Herbert Hill 6-10 240 PF Providence Sr.
NBADraft compares him to Long John Salley

• Shows good mobility, running the court with ease
  
• Possesses great hands, capable of catching most passes without fumbling or losing control of the ball (anti-Foyle)
  
• Solid rebounder who uses his long arms and hands to tip balls out of position to himself (reminds me of Beans)
  
• Solid finisher where he wastes little time, keeps the ball high and goes right up
  
• For his size he shows above average lateral movement which enables him to make an impact as a very good help defender on the weak side of the court
  
• Offensively Hill has a very good jump hook that he converts from a multitude of angles
  
• What makes this even more impressive is that Hill will adjust his release on his shot depending on his defender's position
  
• Surprisingly an excellent post passer possessing the court vision to hit cutters or pass to the open shooter (hello Nellie Ball)
  
• Shows quality shot blocking ability due to his long arms and top notch timing
  
• Does a good job of absorbing contact in the lane and finishing the play for free throw opportunities
  
• Plays solid post defense with good intensity and constantly works to keep himself between his man and the basket
  
• Has shown signs of an emerging face-up game as Hill now hits shots from 12 feet out (something Beans can't do - YET!)
  
• Approaches the game with a blue collar attitude (a la Milsap), with no problem doing the dirty work
  
• Work ethic has been applauded by many throughout his 5 years in college (NICE)

Weaknesses: below avg FT shooter...yikes!

Jermareo Davidson 6-10 220 PF Ala. Sr.

• has an impressive package of mobility and leaping ability
  
• he runs the court like a guard, able to keep up on fast breaks
  
• Has shown the ability to hit the mid-range jumper out to 18 feet from the basket
  
• Decent ball handler able to catch the ball (anti-Adonal)
  
• Defensively Davidson shows quality shot blocking ability as his timing, long arms and quickness enable him to disrupt shots
  
• Long arms and mobility allow for him to be an excellent out of position rebounder ... - Mental toughness and focus have been tested this year as he has endured a series of personal tragedies off the court
  
• Quality finisher around the basket due to his athleticism which allows him to finish with flair (will rock the big Oracle)
  
• Great help defender who's mobility allows him to make his presence felt from the weak side

Negatives include strength, gives up positioning on the defensive end easily (YUCK), gets out-muscled easily for rebounding position (OUCH), and other minor ones.

However, anyone can weight train to gain strength and mass.

Carl Landry 6-9 235 PF Purdue Sr.
Strengths: Shows good mobility running the court

• Tough nosed player who fights hard every game
  
• Post footwork, shooting touch and soft hands enable him to convert most opportunities in the paint
  
• Offensively Landry is crafty as he will use a number of fakes to get his defender off balance and draw fouls
  
• Back to the basket skills are quite advanced, displays a nice jump hook and turnaround jumper
  
• Shows mid range shooting ability from 14-16 feet that he makes with regularity
  
• Underrated post passer who is unselfish and sees the floor well
  
• Quality rebounder in his area
  
• Fundamentally sound as he understands how to read where the ball will go on missed shots when boxing out
  
• Upper body strength enables him to finish after contact occurs
  
• Basketball IQ is solid as Landry understands what his strengths are on the court and rarely goes outside of his comfort range ...
  

REMINDS ME KIND OF LIKE IKE...

Weanesses: height...then again Milsap is only 6'8".

Ali Traore 6-9 239 PF France 1985
Ronny Turiaf Part Deux???
Strengths: Traore is a solid athlete with good quickness and leaping ability

• Mobility is excellent for a player his size
  
• Has the body to continue to put on weight comfortably and not lose any athletic ability
  
• Ball handling ability is solid as it's not uncommon for him to gather the ball from the top of the key and take his man off the dribble (hello Al Harrington)
  
• Fundamentally he understands how the value of keeping the ball high in the post
  
• Possesses good hands enabling him to catch most passes with few problems (ahem Adonal)
  
• Rebounding potential is excellent as he is able to box out well as well as snare balls out of position
  
• Shows good touch around the basket as he is able to finish with both hands (ahem Al)
  
• Excellent finisher around the basket where he excels at catching passes off dishes from guards (can we say Nellie ball?)
  
• Uses his quickness well for fast execution in the post
  
• Physically Traore has many of the qualities of a quality shot blocker with a long wingspan and quick leaping ability
  
• Body control is superb for a player his size ... Overall potential is impressive ...

Weakness: tends to lose confidence and focus (uh-oh), foul-prone, not a great shot-blocker.

Ryvon Covile 6-9 250 PF Detroit Sr.
Don't know much about him but he did avg 10.6 rebs last year in a not so challenging conference...maybe he could help???

Any thoughts? Attacks are welcome!

Ask any GM "do you draft for need?" and he'll tell you you draft the best available player, you trade for need.

I think we were scared away from those three trades because they were high schoolers. I really thought we were going to draft Garnett, man was I really bummed. Then Joe Smith sucked and I was pissed.