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The Greatest Interview Ever

Okay maybe that title is stretching it a little, but recently I was interviewed by Vince Morales over at Dream League, an Asian community basketball league. We covered a few topics such as Golden State of Mind's roots, some of the philosophy behind GSoM, and how our Dream League team is doing. In fact, it was a lot of fun and might be a recurring thing just to talk hoops, Warriors, NBA, and Dream League.

If you haven't heard of Dream League, it's an Asian community basketball league in the Bay Area run by a single guy, Rich Twu. Currently there are somewhere around 95 teams spilt into 9 divisions with some serious ballers in the upper levels. These are former college players and some of the top amateurs. Both Atma and I have played the last 2 seasons (each season is about 3 months) and it has brought back some competitive fire. I'll admit, we've struggled quite a bit but we're slowly improving and adjusting to playing an officiated game after playing pickup hoops for a few years. Anyways, our team is remarkably similar to the Warriors in that we have one big man surrounded by a bunch of guards and small forwards. We also ball in one of the divisions that the big guys play in so we have to play tough D, try to outrun them, and shoot well to win. We even employed the 3-2 zone that Nellie was using during the playoff run. In fact I was watching Warriors games to figure out how to run it!

So make sure to check out the interview I had a lot of fun doing it. Here's a little snippet of the interview.

V: Seems like you have a lot of key responsibilities. Do you guys get paid for your efforts, or is this just a labor of love like the Dream League?

FJ: You got it. It's pretty much just a labor of love. We're Warrior fans and we love having this great community to share with other Warriors fans. In fact one of the main goals we set out to accomplish was to generate enough money in ads to be able to afford season tickets to share with our readers.

It's like our way of giving back to the people who visit our site everyday and support us. Basically, we don't make any money. It's all love, baby.

Thanks to Vince, Rich and the Dream League for not only interviewing me, but for giving us a place to play ball. It's been a lot of fun and the playoffs are coming in just over a month, so things could get even more interesting.

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Hey Junkie,

I'm moving into the city from Marin in a month or two and was looking for a league.  This might be a stupid question but you referred to it as an "Asian community" league, I'm not asian...can I still ball?  When do seasons start, how much to join, where's it played?  etc etc.

If it's exclusive that's cool, got any suggestions on where to find a good run in the city?

Thanks.

jusgo

by tobin on May 30, 2007 10:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

other rec leagues in SF
These guys run several hoops leagues in the city:
http://www.sports4good.com/
I've been playing in their co-ed league for the last couple "seasons" and it's been a blast.

UCSF also runs rec leagues that are open to the public:
http://www.recsports.ucsf.edu/leagues/register.php

RACK IT UP!!! We believed. Playoffs '07. One Dub!

by EternalWarriorsOptimist on May 31, 2007 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dream League
Good Interview - I read the interview on the Dream League site already.  I played in the Dream League for one season (Summer/Fall 2005) and it was pretty fun.  I haven't had a chance to go back since the Sunday league games conflict with some of my basketball reffing duties.  For those who haven't tried the Dream League, give it a shot.

That brings up another point for Jusgo:  

Unless you're "25% Asian", you can't play in the Dream League.  

However, there are plenty of other leagues around that you could play:

Jewish Community Center SF - Leagues year round and you don't have to be Jewish to play.  Sign up as a free agent or form a team

Golden Gate Sport and Social Club - Same as the JCC above.  

Depending on where you live, your local Rec center in SF might have leagues running as well.

by coach41 on May 30, 2007 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i played
i was in dreamleague with my buddies last summer (my last in the bay).. it's a pretty good league.. officials are alright.. we played in oakland.. fun times =)

by prophet on May 30, 2007 12:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

asian community
Hey folks, before we start getting too much heat about having a league "exclusive" to Asians, let me just point out a couple things: (1) dreamleague has, in the past, run open leagues, corporate leagues, as well as Women's leagues, and (2) basketball in the Asian community has been around for a long time and dreamleague is the most "open" that particular community has ever seen.

On point #1, I just had to make a conscious decision and scale back, otherwise I would've burned out (although I feel like I'm burning out as it is). There's only so much one man can do every weekend. When there's 95 teams who need your services, that will naturally outweigh the 10-team open league and the 8-team Women's league -- although we are starting one backup hopefully, depending on my Women's commish.

If you read some of the news articles, such as the one from the Oakland Tribune, on the right side our homepage, you will see that I'm all for running leagues for any affinity group you got. I just so happen to come from the Asian community, so that's what I started with. As I've mentioned before, we have run open and Women's leagues and we plan to revive our corporate league by next year.

I could probably write a book about this, but Asian leagues have been around for at least 75 years, especially thanks to the Japanese in California and the hoops-rabid Filipino immigrants who have arrived in almost every major U.S. city. Those have been traditionally exclusive to Japanese, then a few full-blooded Chinese, then allowing more Koreans and Vietnamese (in LA only and not in the Bay, curiously), and then with the Filipinos, obviously Filipino.

We are the first "Asian" league to extend those boundaries to Asian ethnicities as defined by the Asian Games, which stretch as far west on the Asian continent as Palestine. So yes, this is the first Asian league to include Arab Americans.

Do we have people that bring in non-Asians? Yes, on occasion and perhaps surreptitiously. Are we steadfast on our rules? Not necessarily, as there's only so much I can police anyways. And the bigger picture is, if more non-Asians respect Asians as good, clean basketball players, then that can only be a good thing. I let the people in our community decide on who they want to bring in. If it's a serious enough issue that it affects teams' competitive fire, then like David Stern, I have no choice but to police the rules that my teams want me to enforce.

Anyways, all of this should be a moot point in due time as we make more leagues available to other affinity groups, be they ethnic, corporate, or whatever.

What the Japanese and Filipino leagues have done in the past in terms of the passion and organization behind leagues and tournaments, while preserving the game of basketball in terms of sportsmanship and pure skill/talent, and what dreamleague has taken to the next level (such as a 24-sec shotclock, semi-stop-time rules, advancing the ball on a timeout, double-elim playoffs, how we run things in parallel to the NBA's rules, et. al.), is truly something I wish to offer to any and all who want it.

Thank you GSOM and GSOM readers! Hope to see you on the court somewhere...

Poor Man's Commish

by dreamleague on May 30, 2007 1:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Exclusive
To the dreamleague commish:

No worries from me on being an (semi) exclusive league, bringing together a community through a medium which I love (SPORTS!) is always great and I am all for that.  Props to you for taking on such a taxing and consuming challenge.  That's what b-ball should be about anyways, 5 as 1.  

To coach41, thanks for the tips..I'll probably check out the JCC that's near the neighborhoods I'm looking at living in.

jusgo

by tobin on May 30, 2007 1:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Leagues in SF
I've played in SF leagues for 5 years now and have a good feel for almost all of them.  Golden Gate Sport and Social Club (www.playinthebay.com) is pretty solid but is played on a smaller court in North Beach.  The Presidio YMCA has tight leagues on a couple of full courts.  That's where I'm playing right now.  Both leagues cost about $100 per individual and give you a jersey, refs, a 7 game schedule and playoffs.  Hope that helps.

THE NOTE

"The more scotch I drink, the better the game plan gets."

by CNote on May 30, 2007 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Exclusive"
   Well I think racist based eligibility sucks in any form. I thought we learned that lesson from Jackie Robinson?  

by Skeptic con Urquell on May 30, 2007 9:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Different Strokes for Different Folks
Skeptic con Urquell,

People inside and outside the Asian-American basketball community have probably debated the necessity of "Asian-only" basketball leagues.  

Without going into all the details, some Asian folks feel that on the whole, Asian American ball players are smaller in stature than their Caucasian/African-American/Latino counterparts (Yao Ming or Yi Lianlian non-withstanding). So, Asian leagues exist because they fulfill a need of the community for basketball.

However, don't think all "Asian" leagues are "exclusive".  The Dream League is "semi-exclusive" with their 25% Asian requirement.  The 75 year old Japanese league has pretty strict requirements.

However, two Asian church leagues I run in is open to everyone.  One league is primarily for "churches" or other religious organizations.  There is usually a solid number of non-Asians in the league across the divisions (Men, Women, High School, Youth).

The other league is a draft league run by my friends.  We are also open to everyone.  We've had our share of non-Asian players over the past four years.  Usually, it's friends or co-workers that are brought in.

One Asian League I came across (in Virginia I believe) is "Asian only" with the exception of two roster spots for non-Asians.  

Different leagues are doing different things.  If a league can't accomodate you, then simply find one that does.  :)

by coach41 on May 31, 2007 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If a league can't accomodate you,
  "then simply find one that does'

    Yeah, I remember the days of the old negro leagues. I was hopin those days had gone away for ever but I guess the snake is hard to kill.
  Don't worry I won't be applying to your league any sooner than I'll be applyin to the KKK league.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 1, 2007 10:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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