Rumor: Kevin Garnett Wants to Play with Baron Davis and for the Warriors

by Atma Brother ONE on Jun 22, 2007 1:06 PM PDT in Rumors

With Kevin Garnett and his agent telling the Boston Celtics and their "braintrust" to stay the hell away from him plus the Minnesota Timberwolves' inept owner Glen Taylor and clueless GM Kevin McHale not so stealthily indicating that the superstar is available on the trading market [see Wolves-Celtics trade talk? Garnett says forget it on ESPN.com] Warriors Nation is left salivating at even the slim chance that KG could be coming to the Bay. GSoM friend Tim Kawakami thinks KG to the Bay has gotten a lot more realistic in the past week. Here's his take on KG to the Warriors:

I always have been told that Garnett would very much like to be a Warrior, a feeling that heated up after the acquisition of Baron Davis (KG really wants to play with a great point guard) and probably went torch-inferno during/after the Warriors’ Nellie-ball escapades in the playoffs.

By the way, I think it’s understood that Chris Mullin has been intrigued by Garnett for years and years, and that Don Nelson couldn’t find a better fit for his system than Garnett.

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2. Would Garnett agree to a Warrior trade?

Answer: Almost certainly, yes. He wants to play with Baron and he likes California, enough said.

Make sure to check out the rest of Tim's blog post about KG to the Warriors on Talking Points.

I don't think I need to tell you how great of a player KG is, so I won't. I don't think I need to tell you how great of a fit KG would be for the Nellieball, so I won't. I don't think I need to tell you how much fun it would be see to KG in a Warriors uniform, so I won't. I don't think I need to tell you how much fun KG would have playing in the Roaracle Arena in front of the best fans in the league, so I won't.

We love KG in the Bay and KG will LOVE it here.

Ooops, I guess I just sorta did.

Mullin, Nellie, McHale, KG, KG's agent- We believe ya'll can make this happen... and you know what happens when We Believe here in good ol' Warriors' land.

I'll even eat Wheaties instead of Cocoa Krispies every morning if KG comes here!
That's more of a commitment to winning than Kevin McHale and the Timberkittens ever had in Minnesnowta.

The Free KG Movement is in full session...

Head on over to ESPN's Trade Machine and post the best trades you can come up with to bring KG to the Bay in the comments section.

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99% of rumors never happen, but 99% of them are fun to talk about!

Also check out

The Cost of Bringing KG to the Bay [Hoopsworld]
The Eternal Sunshine of a KG-Obsessed Mind [Fast Break]

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Realistically

I don't think this should happen, because we got to the playoffs with this squad and can do it again. As they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it...

If the W's think they need to roll the dice and believe one man can change the outcome of the post season, here is what I'm guessing it would take:

JRich
Biedrins
Harrington
+ the 18th pick

If there is some way to move Foyle in this deal, I'd definitely pull the trigger, regardless of it ripping the heart out of this team.

Otherwise, I'd keep looking for a rebounder and backup for Biedrins and try to make another run with what we have.

by RonG on Jun 22, 2007 1:24 PM PDT 0 recs

If...

If you can do this without giving up Baron or AB I think it's pretty hard to turn down. A deal like,

JRich
Monta
Al
POB
2nd 07
1st 08

for KG would devastate our roster, but if we resign Barnes for the MLE trade Sarunas for a usable piece or a 2nd round pick we could still put a pretty scary team on the court.

Baron
SJax
Barnes
KG
Andris

I don't really care whos on the bench that team would be nasty.

by olympicmike on Jun 22, 2007 1:35 PM PDT 0 recs

REALISTICALLY...

we barely got into the playoffs last year, so don't be so certain that the same squad is going to get us there again!

I know we only saw this team play together for half of a season which is probably why we caught teams off-guard, but at the same time, w/ a full season, teams will be able to figure out our weaknesses, which are definitely rebounding and probably plugging up the inside and forcing us to shoot from the outside!

So, I agree w/ OLYMPICMIKE when he said..."I don't really care whos on the bench that team would be nasty" because it really would! I might not necessarily agree that we should give them all that for KG, but whatever it takes...almost!

"GO BIG or GO HOME!!!"

by scottiepimppen on Jun 22, 2007 2:40 PM PDT 0 recs

This is...

...almost assuredly an insane pipe dream, unless Isiah Thomas truly is as dumb as he's thought to be, and unless he himself is made aware that he has no chance for KG, but would want to make sure he wasn't moved to the East. It also requires Kevin McHale to really, really want David Lee and Jamal Crawford, which I don't know that he does.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=254~308~3019~261~165~2772~703&teams=18 ~18~18~9~16~16~16

Golden State sends Patrick O'Bryant, Adonal Foyle, and Al Harrington to the Knicks. The Knicks in turn send Crawford, Lee, and somebody else I've already forgotten to Minnesota, who flip Garnett to the Warriors.

It is nice to dream, isn't it?

by Zack Vank on Jun 22, 2007 2:48 PM PDT 0 recs

eh

we've got a surplus of unrealistic dreams at GSOM. keep it real.

by OaktownWarrior on Jun 23, 2007 10:23 AM PDT up 0 recs

free kg and ricky davis

and i'll say it again!

jrich
foyle
al

for

Ricky
KG

by djchuckdeez on Jun 22, 2007 3:09 PM PDT 0 recs

minny would never do that

by dallaswarrior on Jun 22, 2007 3:15 PM PDT up 0 recs

so stop saying it

by dallaswarrior on Jun 22, 2007 3:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

im goin to laugh

when it does happen

by djchuckdeez on Jun 22, 2007 7:58 PM PDT up 0 recs

and

would you ever think indy would take muprhy and dunleavy for al and jax? nope, I woudlnt of thought that but hey it happened. So you never know! But realistically probably know but still, never know!

by djchuckdeez on Jun 22, 2007 10:03 PM PDT up 0 recs

eh

get serious

by OaktownWarrior on Jun 23, 2007 10:23 AM PDT up 0 recs

No...let me start by saying....

I don't wanna get rid of J-Rich.....

But I was playing w/ the Trade machine..and how do you guys feel about this one...

KG + Marko

for

J-Rich, Al, Adonal, POB, and the 18th pick?

Think this one would fly??

It works moneywise.....we'd pick up a back up PG also?? I'm not even sure if I like this yet...what do yall think?

HE GOT IT!!!!!!!

by esco41510 on Jun 22, 2007 3:23 PM PDT 0 recs

On 2nd thought, they would definitely

Want either Monta or Beans in this one. I don't think they would do it just like that.

HE GOT IT!!!!!!!

by esco41510 on Jun 22, 2007 3:24 PM PDT 0 recs

I like it but Minny wont do it.

No one wants adonals contract and we arent giving them enough for a great player like KG. they would want a young big man back like AB not Foyle

by dallaswarrior on Jun 22, 2007 3:26 PM PDT 0 recs

I BELIEVE...

... that we will have KG on our roster before the season starts.

If KG wants to play for the Warriors, then we should have a 50/50 chance of landing him.

That's better odds than the ones that we had for making the playoffs last season. We still went on a 16-5 run with the toughest remaining schedule left in the league and we ended up making the playoffs even though it seemed impossible at first.

That was the first step in getting KG. When we got that national exposure in the postseason, he got to see how exciting it is here in Golden State and he also got to see what a great coach Nellie is. I'm pretty sure that KG had a little moment where he imagined himself in a Warriors uniform.

Now Mullin need to do his part in this and go on his own run to get KG to become a Warrior.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Jun 22, 2007 3:28 PM PDT 0 recs

It'll hurt

The only way KG will get traded for under value will be if he refuses to play ala C-Webb, which KG won't do because he's all class, and if he was going to be traded for under value, he will be traded to a team with more to offer than us.

Therefore, we are going to have to part with players whose absence will hurt us in our hearts(J-Rich) and on the floor(Monta, Beans) and hurt GSW's future.

I say keep what we have and try to get our salary cap under control so that we can resign Monta and Beans.

"You go into battle with the Army you have."
-Donald Rumsfeld

by optimistic pessimist on Jun 22, 2007 3:29 PM PDT 0 recs

eh

the quote adds nothing, except revealing some sort of affinity for a war criminal.

by OaktownWarrior on Jun 23, 2007 10:29 AM PDT up 0 recs

Aight...

I agree, what do you think about...

J-Rich, S-Jax, Beans, and Adonal + the 18th pick.

for

KG + Marko

This one hurts a little more IMO. I know they don't want Adonals $, but the pick up Beans. This might not fit since they already have Ricky however. But would it be doable on our end?

HE GOT IT!!!!!!!

by esco41510 on Jun 22, 2007 3:31 PM PDT 0 recs

What Happened to the Yi Movement!

Hey, did Yi become chopped liver? I wonder where the fickle finger of fate will land us in less than a week. In the meantime, it sure is fun to read the speculation, hopes,and pipe dreams.

by commish on Jun 22, 2007 3:59 PM PDT 0 recs

Ok ok... I have a real HOMERISH trade...

If New York is dumb enough... we could pull off a three trade heist which would involve a lot of future picks...

New York gets:
#36 pick
Adonal Foyle
Project O'Bryant
Monta Ellis
Ricky Davis
future first rounder from G.S.

gives:
Steve Francis
Jerome James

Minnesota gets:
#18 pick
Al Harrington
Steve Francis
Jerome James
two future first rounders from G.S.

Minnesota gives:
Kevin Garnett
Ricky Davis

Golden State gets:
Kevin Garnett

Gives:
3 future first rounders
#18 pick
#36 pick
Monta Ellis
Al Harrington
Adonal Foyle
Project O'Bryant

There is no justification for this trade... as it is PURE fantasy! But hey... we did get Jackson & Harrington and got rid of Dunleavy & Murphy all for Diogu's potential... a shooting star might pass over the Bay Bridge next month.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

by mightymadskillz on Jun 22, 2007 4:38 PM PDT 0 recs

How is that deal bad for NY??

They make out like bandits: two exciting, talented players (Monta and Ricky D) for a steaming pile of crap. I pray you're at least lottery-protecting those two first-rounders.

Minnesota is the team that gets totally hosed in that deal.

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 22, 2007 5:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

ur definately right

and NY gets a few draft picks, plus a bigman with upside in obryant lol

by travisl212 on Jun 22, 2007 10:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

ok...

How about if we take out Ellis from the equation... will it be a pure fantasy trade then? =)

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

by mightymadskillz on Jun 23, 2007 10:18 AM PDT up 0 recs

ooo boy

KG would put the Bay back on the map permanently and we could be a great contender for the NBA FINALS!

"Intensity, Integrity, Intelligence" - Kurt Angle

by ballin on Jun 22, 2007 5:03 PM PDT 0 recs

Orlando!!!

DallasWarrior brought this up in another thread, but I'll repost it here. Orlando makes a ton of sense as a third team in a Minnesota trade, since:

They're one of the few teams around with a surplus young talented big man (to replace KG)
They're one of the few teams in dire need of a talented wing player
Otis Smith is rumored to love JRich

ORL gets: JRich
GSW gets: Garnett
Min gets: Monta, Darko (sign/trade $10M-ish), Harrington

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 22, 2007 5:47 PM PDT 0 recs

Not Bad

This is good way to get around the Twolves not really needing all the 2 guards we have to offer. Another one I was thinking of is a variation of the first trade I posted where we bring in Utah and send JRich to the jazz and they send AK47 to Minnie. I'm not sure if McHale would like AK or if Utah would want JRich but I can make a pretty good case for it in my head. (Utah needs size at the two, and Twolves would need frontcourt help w/o KG) Problem is I could argue a pretty good case against it too. : (

by olympicmike on Jun 22, 2007 6:15 PM PDT up 0 recs

i hate to lose monta and j-rich

that takes a lot of the soul out of the team. at the same time, this deal would still be sweet for the warriors - b-davis, KG, steve jax, barnes, biedrins. we'd have to take it if we could get it.

at the same time, i'm starting to think the best plan would be to go for something less dramatic, i.e.: j-rich for varejao.

by OaktownWarrior on Jun 23, 2007 10:27 AM PDT up 0 recs

I tend to agree

I think we have to take a stab at getting a guy like KG or Kobe but it would be hard to part with the guys that took us on that wild ride last year.

As far as trading JRich, that seems to be the most likely scenario because he is the only player with real value who would not leave a big hole in the line-up (thanks to monta). Hopefully they can find a deal that will get us what we need to fill out the team. I posted this on the main page but a deal like

JRich
Sarunas
POB

for

Varejao or Gooden
Gibson
Marshall

A trade like this one might be our best bet. It would fill some holes without making new ones. Hopefully Mullin and Nellie can do better though.

by olympicmike on Jun 23, 2007 12:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

the best team to get involved?

Charlotte. They can make any trade work since you just sent a boat anchor contract their way and they kick a trade exception out your way.

Plus, they have a #8 pick they don't "really" need/want.

Perhaps something like the #8 (Noah or Hawes?), Sean May, Adam Morrison, Harrington, Richardson, and some huge trade exception to Minnesota

Ellis, POB and #18 to the Bobcats

Garnet and Troy Hudson (since his contract sucks, he wants out, and we need a backup PG anyways...basically it's extra incentive for Minnesota since we'll take Hudson off their hands) to the Warriors

Essentially we want to bribe Charlotte into using their cap space to make any deal work.

by OptionZero on Jun 22, 2007 7:43 PM PDT 0 recs

whoever quoted rumsfeld...

is kind of a fouler

by thatrabbi on Jun 22, 2007 8:04 PM PDT 0 recs

Word to that

And I'm not even 100% sure what a "fouler" is...

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 22, 2007 9:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

IF the warriors pull it off

I think Biedrins and JRich will be headed the other way. No Monta. He is our insurance & compliment to Baron.

The warriors cannot afford to part with 3 of Baron, Monta, JRich, Jackson, Al, and Biedrins. That's half of the core of the team (some consider Barnes to be part of this group; i don't disagree).

At the same time they probably have to unload 3 of those players (and possibly not resign Barnes) just to stay around luxury level and have a hope of getting under the luxury in the future.

And seeing as that the warriors are in the west the Twolves would no doubt prefer to ship Garnett elsewhere. Where does that leave us? Too many roadblocks to getting a deal done. We'll see what happens, but I think an Eastern team will swoop in (chicago makes so much more sense than any alternative).

by BingBluNT on Jun 23, 2007 2:32 AM PDT 0 recs

win now or plan for the future?

That's the big question for a lot of teams. Take it from a Lakers fan, I know all about the troubles of trying to "win now" and planning for the future.

Sometimes you can't do both. To me, Baron, and even Jax, have about a 3-5 year window to "win now". I know alot of people want to hold on to Monta for the future. But, is he worth holding onto if KG is available?

If the Warriors are willing to give up Monta, I think they have a great chance of landing KG.

I've proposed this trade here before and I'll do it again:

J-Rich
Monta
Harrington
Foyle

for

KG
Ricky Davis

It works under the cap and gives the Warriors a legitimate chance to win a championship within the next 3-5 years.

Baron
Ricky Davis
Jax
KG
Biedrins

Baron / Monta
J-Rich
Jax
Harrington
Biedrins

Which lineup do you think has a better chance of winnning a championship?

by THE DAGGER on Jun 24, 2007 11:51 PM PDT 0 recs

All of this is garbage, the only one that

makes any sense without destroying our team is the 3 way with orlando. I think we could work something with charlotte too but the packages we would have to send out seem way too big and ludicrous.

by dallaswarrior on Jun 25, 2007 9:58 AM PDT 0 recs