REMEMEBER- we tried to build around j-rich before (musselman/ montgomery)- didnt work. we tried to build around diddy/ j rich (2005-6) didnt work. in 06-07 we built around baron with a bunch of swingman around him, all capable of going off and scoring 20-25 pts a game (jacks, j-rich, ellis, barnes, pietris) we dont need anyone like that who is interchangable making 10 million per. j-rich was not the go to player you guys are making him out to be. when we needed a shot what would we do? clear the floor for baron or and have him either take it himself or dish off for a 3. j-rich became a shooter. an interchangable piece.

look i LOVE j-rich. i stormed out of the room swearing when the trade was made. but the more i thought about it, the more i like this trade. especially if brandan wright is the one the nellie and mullin really wanted... i am for it. nellie is a damn good judge of talent and i think brandan wright can flourish in our system. the only question about this guy is his motor and heart. you think he is gonna dog it with nellie as his coach? he'll be on the bench then in the d-league. added with that 10 million exception, we can pick up another good player (backup pg, another cheaper swingman, maybe more size, who knows) in a sign and trade.

look, i love jrich, wish him the best of luck, and he is one of my favorite warriors. but in nellieball, he is a luxury, not a go to guy. it hurts to lose him, but tough decisions have to be made.

the problem is that most everyone here is looking at the deal emotionally. look at it with no emotion and it makes alot of sense. mullin and nelson made the tough decision and i think there is a very good chance the team will be better for it.

There's little issue if he got a fair deal. Now if he was lied to and signed for under value then maybe.

But I doubt any player has any major problems being shipped out after they got a fat deal. Sure some will have personal issues, family not wanting to move etc. But at the end of the day they'll still be seeing the same amount of money anyhow whether its as a Warrior or as someone else.

Nellieball is right. This trade is not a salary dump. J-Rich is a cap casualty. If his contract was half of what it currently is, he'd probably still be a Warrior, as the incentive to shed salary, as well as receive the juicy trade exception (which might not be so juicy; we shall see), would be greatly reduced.

I definitely admit that Jason didn't fit great in Nellie's offense. But he also only had one training camp, and less than 1/2 season with Nellie. Can't the GSoM-branded genius find space for a healthy, explosive scorer and rebounder in the prime of his career?

The other issue that no one has mentioned is the length of this Nellieball style of offense. If the W's are making long term plans in terms of acquiring players to fit a certain style or philosophy, then wouldn't you want to be reassured that the coach might actually stick around for awhile? It has only been informally reported that Nelson is even going to coach this season. How long is he going to stick around? Does he plan to groom a successor who immediately changes the style to a defensive philosophy? To me, this just seems not very well thought out.

Anyway, I was just trying to bring attention to the fact that Chris Mullin has had to overhaul the roster because Chris Mullin made a bunch of bad signings, and then when those same highly paid players struggled in an offense not built for them (and because most weren't very good to begin with), the players were traded and pieces that did fit the offense were moved in. I'd feel great if the Warriors had a long-term system in place, such as those found in Utah or San Antonio, but that's not the reality of the situation.

BUT...if this was all part of Mullin's master plan, to overpay certain players, gradually pawn them off on unsuspecting GMs across the league, and then in one whirlwind sequence, send your 'franchise' player across the country in a convuluted deal that somehow nets Kevin Garnett in an effort to make an honest run for the title, well...then Mullin is more of a genius than I can ever credit.

Just don't include Beans in the deal.