How about James Posey at SF?

by warriordrp on Jul 12, 2007 11:18 PM PDT Comment 36 comments

The Miami Herald is reporting that Posey has narrowed his choices down to four teams, and one is Golden State. I think Posey would fit in very well at the 3 spot. He's a good defender and can shoot the 3 very well. Basically he's a much better Pietrus. If we can get him for less money than Barnes, I say grab him. What do you think? Also, I would love to get Joe Smith at the PF position if he will take less money.

Davis/Ellis
Jackson/Belinelli/Azibuike
Harrington/Posey
Smith/Wright/Lasme
Biedrins/Foyle

Heck of a squad!

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47103/20070713/posey_narrows_choices_down_to_four/

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yes

I have brought his name up before because Miami doesn't seem to want him back and no one else has expressed interest (maybe the Wiz?).

He is 6'8, great size for a swing man, has a rep for being a solid defender. He has experience on a relatively successful team.

Posey has 3 point range, boards decently for a SF, and should be athletic enough to run in our system.

His game might be compared to Pietrus, but as a vet, I expect he won't have that many mental breakdowns.

He's not the greatest player in the world, but he has appeal because he can play a Barnes-like role for something like half the MLE.

by OptionZero on Jul 12, 2007 11:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

one more

He shoots 80% from the line.

He makes too much sense not to be on our radar.

by OptionZero on Jul 12, 2007 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wasnt he

the guy that tried to take a charge while monta was in full stride causing them to crash and monta to be injured?

by llamalimbo1 on Jul 12, 2007 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

how about

kg at pf?

by djchuckdeez on Jul 12, 2007 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

this is about posey

let's not make it into yet another Kg diary

by OptionZero on Jul 12, 2007 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well then

Let's not propose Joe Freaking Smith as our starting PF... ;-P

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 13, 2007 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmm

i agree hahaha

by djchuckdeez on Jul 13, 2007 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes

especially if we can get him that cheap. if we could sign him for 1/2 the MLE that may leave enough room to sign Barnes as well since it sounds like he may not command as much as $ as was thought

by azw on Jul 12, 2007 11:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

duplicate

Posey makes Barnes obsolete.

We'd have Ellis starting at SG, Jackson starting at SF.

Belinelli and Azubiuke backup both spots; Ellis and Belinelli can spot PG minutes.

I figure Posey would be the backup SF and pseudo-PF for Nelly.

Barnes would just be a excess we don't need to spend on.

Frankly, I'd take Posey because he's a better FT and has more experience (assuming both are equal price).

by OptionZero on Jul 13, 2007 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

even in Nellies system

he likes similar interchangeable players, i could see him occasionally putting out a line up of
BD
JAX
Posey
Barnes
AL
But you are probably right, i would still like to see them get a reliable back up for BD (since he doesnt seem to want to play sarunas, and a maybe little inside muscle

by azw on Jul 13, 2007 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Posey would be a nice addition here

He brings a veteran presence, solid defense and good free throw shooting. He's a better all-around player than Pietrus and can run the floor. I'd take a flyer on him if I was Chris Mullin.

by Byron Houston We Have A Problem on Jul 12, 2007 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Posey

Posey made $6.3 million in 06-07, and he hasn't done anything to be paid less in his next upcoming contract. I think Barnes would give us better bang for the buck than Posey, but Posey is a very good fit though.

by jlagace on Jul 13, 2007 12:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

except

Become a free agent.

$6M was his old paycheck, that says nothing about what he'll get this time. He's not gonna get the full MLE, and the other teams on his "list" (CLE, NO/K, NJ) are over the cap. Taking a paycut is pretty much a foregone conclusion unless someone's stupid enough to sign and trade just for the privilege of paying him more than the MLE.

Frankly, I can't imagine Cleveland paying him much because they're basically going to bust the bank keeping Sasha Pavlovic and Varajeo.

That leaves the Nets and the Hornets.
The Nets have Nachbar, Jefferson, and Hassan Adams, so I can't see Posey getting significant minutes there, so no advantage for Jersey.

The Hornets swingmen are Peja and J. Wright, and they area already paying Rasual Butler a good amount ($3M per) to be a backup.

Honestly, I don't see why he wouldn't want to play in our system, where swingmen thrive if they're willing to spot minutes at the 4. If we weren't gonna touch the full MLE for Barnes, there's really little chance we'd do it for Posey, so I'm pretty sure we'll come in at $4M or below.

by OptionZero on Jul 13, 2007 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

joe smith?

you have got to be kidding me

by travisl212 on Jul 13, 2007 12:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

for the sake of ..

me stabbing myself in the neck with an icepick...no joe smith.

by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Jul 13, 2007 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmm...

this might be legit (actually i have no idea). my basis is here. go back to this post

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/7/9/22111/12746

and check the little exchange between pree and sleepy freud. POSEY IS ON THE LIST!

by llamalimbo1 on Jul 13, 2007 1:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm with that!

he would be an upgrade on defense and at the free strip....but i still like barnes.

by Belinelli2Biedrins on Jul 13, 2007 1:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

werd.

I'm getting tired of OptionZero. It was bad enough when he just posted once or twice in a thread. But now he's just debunking every single post with his logic and acting like its super factual. Because if he says it, even though it's opinion, it's truth. And he has his ugly sig to go with it now. The one he made in paint.

We get it dude. You know everything about sports. You don't need to sit here and figure out different ways to tell people you think they're wrong. Just post your opinion and leave it be. It's tired. I'm bored of it.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma on Jul 13, 2007 2:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

really?

Cuz i don't know that much about hockey or soccer.

by OptionZero on Jul 13, 2007 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

cool dude!

Well, it's a good thing you're here then.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma on Jul 13, 2007 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

awesome

you said it, not me

glad to be here

by OptionZero on Jul 13, 2007 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

cool.

Glad to be of service. I also love that as a law student, and a self-proclaimed "one of four people who post anything worth reading around here", you have no sarcasm detection system. Work on that.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma on Jul 13, 2007 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Expect something from me soon

The hot stove is cooking. I'm trying to figure out if the Warriors are a recipe.

by pree on Jul 13, 2007 2:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

James Posey and Joe Smith

Yes on Posey and no on Joe...LOL

by Phil T28 on Jul 13, 2007 8:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Blechh

Screw Joe Smith and Parker Posey.

30 y.o swingman with a career 41.6% FG who does nothing above average, except defend? I'd rather have Barnes. I'd probably even rather have Pietrus.

Player age / 2006-07 PER
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Barnes 27 / 14.7
Pietrus 25 / 13.0
Posey 30 / 12.7

Given that we can likely have either Barnes and Pietrus for cheaper than the MLE, I don't really see the point in playing ring around the Posey.

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 13, 2007 8:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Good point

I thought Posey would be a good pickup two years ago. I think Barnes makes HIM redundant, not the other way around.

Parker Posey, on the other hand, would be a great pickup...

by ffgolden on Jul 13, 2007 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

comparo

I think it's a little misleading to look at the straight PER comparison among the 3.

Barnes had an unusually good year; Pietrus' flaws are well documented. Both are looking for the full MLE.

None of the 3 bring any individual offense and rely mostly on opportunistic 3 point shooting or transition/garbage buckets for scoring.

Posey, however, is a superior free throw shooter and rebounded well playing at the 2/3 positions. Barnes and Pietrus put up good board numbers, but at the 4 position.

I would not want Pietrus back under any circumstances, and would take the cheaper of Barnes or Posey.

by OptionZero on Jul 13, 2007 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unless there are more players around the ring???

http://www.topix.net/forum/basketball-players/james-posey/T5U7PFIG10K0P3HD5

"The Heat needs to give Mo a deadline. This is silly - he's obviously holding out for a massive deal. The only reason I can see the Heat wait is if there is a sign and trade involving Golden State to send Yi to GS, Williams here and players/picks to the Bucks."

NOT an advocate...but solves the Bucks draft problems and gets Yi into the NBA

by streetballer on Jul 13, 2007 9:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

True

that. Barnes is pretty obligated to stay with us, he has a "We Believe" tattoo. As for Joe Smith, I'd be up for signing him as much as I'd be up for signing Chris Webber or say drinking bleach.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Jul 13, 2007 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

werd

actually that tat just says "believe", and he had it way before that whole we believe nonsense.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma on Jul 13, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Joe Smith

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

by gabezgsw on Jul 13, 2007 9:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

warriordrp

Thanks for posting this. Please link to the original source not RealGM. RealGM didn't do anything here but copy an article from somewhere else and make it look like it's their rumor. It's shady.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/basketball/story/169237.html

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 13, 2007 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

In defense of RealGM

They do link to the source article, and they do cite the source at the beginning of each summary. They also don't call their links section "RealGM Rumors" or something, but rather, "Wiretap Headlines", which I think is fair. But yeah, I know where you're coming from. Plagiarism sucks.

by ffgolden on Jul 13, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not anymore

I have kind of been a Posey fan over the years but I think it's a little late to get him now. The guy is a pretty good defender and despite his FG% I have seen him hit a ton of clutch threes, but I think that unless he takes less than Barnes would I would go with someone younger.

I don't know if his body could handle playing uptempo all season. IIRC he has played for Denver, Houston, Memphis, and Miami, all halfcourt-set offense type clubs while he was there. I'm not sure he would fit in our system that well. He is also a bit of a hot-head/cheap-shot artist, which is one of the few things that bug me about him as a player. Anyway I might take him if it was a super bargain but then again he might be a good pick-up if we land KG. haha, it's funny but I can't think about any of these moves without also considering how it would work with a KG trade. lol.

by olympicmike on Jul 13, 2007 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

UPDATE: Hornets sign Peterson

According to SI:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/wires/07/13/2030.ap.bkn.hornets.peterson.0291/

Looks like NO/OK is out of the Posey sweepstakes.

by OptionZero on Jul 13, 2007 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Posey

Would be a good option. Good rebounder, solid on D, can shoot 3s and an excellent free-throw shooter; he would definitely be better than Pietrus and maybe Barnes; plus, he would probably be cheaper too.

by zaki on Jul 14, 2007 4:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs