RANT: Everything wrong w/GSOM (and a few things right)

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 17, 2007 10:08 PM PDT

Wassup party peoples,

I check this website probably ten times a day because I have the Warriors fever and just can't shake it. I read HoopsHype, and ESPN, and at least half the diaries here, even the diaries where half the posts are petty arguments between one poster and another. I like this place.

However, we are no doubt going through some growing pains, and some of the old timers are frustrated, and some of the newbies are down to fight, and we're all a little fried after all this wondering, and waiting, to see if KG will land in the 'town.

So we've got new regulations and a new REGULATOR and a whole army of vigilante content monitors who are definitely ready to pop a cap in yo' ass if you write some frivolous drivel.

And that's the good part...

Anyway, where I'm going with this is: well, we might just need a bitch session. You know, a time to complain and critique and even diss a bit. You can also pay some compliments, if you are into that sort of thing.

So here goes...

WHAT IS WRONG WITH GSOM

#1 The Warriors didn't win the championship. We will not truly be happy until that happens. Even then, we probably won't be "happy".

#5 We've got more people than the current format can handle. We don't yet have the little systems that present diaries in order of popularity, for example.

#9 We are a relatively young, growing community that is trying out new rules and regulations and, well, frankly, some of the efforts are misguided. For example (and this is not a personal critique, but rather, a functionality issue): the new words in the titles (REPORT, IDEA, etc). Truthfully, they suck. The classifications are more filler that you have to scan through until you figure out what the diary is really about. I still need to read the whole title of the diary before I can figure out whether or not I want to read it.

#13 That dude with the racist Indian logo as his webpin (sorry man, it is just plain ugly).

WHAT IS RIGHT WITH GSOM

#1 The Warriors. They rule!

#2 The Warriors. The playoffs were dope!!!

#6 The personalities here. The webpins, the Sleepies and comas, the Commishes and the Zorgs, the Atmas and Fantasy and YaoButtas and all. It's nice to know that you'll be reading some familiar voices when you stop by this place.

#99.9 Rumors! I love 'em.!!!

PS - Especially for you young bucks, who may get carried away by the "what is wrong" stuff - let's keep it respectful! Remember the guidelines!!!

Poll

how tight is GSOM?

Nirvana. Nothing is better.

13 votes

I'm enjoying the ride. It may get even better.

28 votes

Enough for my sports fix, as long as I keep it short and sweet.

3 votes

I only come here when I have nothing better to do.

4 votes

48 votes | Poll has closed

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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Golden

Overall this is a great website. It is a little biased sometimes on what the creators personal opinions are (most notably the Anti-Monta rumors posted on the main page because they want Yi here). I was also put off by the Yi movement because it seemed it was based a lot on racial aspects which I don't really care for. I don't give a crap if the whole team is purple if they put up wins...but hey if I ran a website i'd post my own views as well. Keep up the good work guys

by BaronForPrez on Jul 17, 2007 10:16 PM PDT 0 recs

Sorry man

It is a little biased sometimes on what the creators personal opinions are (most notably the Anti-Monta rumors posted on the main page because they want Yi here).

Sorry man, but that's complete nonsense and I'm kinda offended you'd write that. I posted what other people had written about Monta (from Rotoworld and Draft Express which are respected sites) and I myself was shocked at what they wrote which was explicitly noted in that piece. It had absolutely nothing to do with Yi and I can't see how you could draw that ridiculous conclusion.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 17, 2007 10:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

Meh

I drew that conclusion because that story was posted as the trade-talk of Monta was in full swing. Also your main "source" and the biggest block of your story was from message boards... hardly credible or reliable. How else did I come to my rediculous conclusion? Maybe because in the message board post from a random person in NEW YORK, after stating "Ellis is apparently an idiot of JR Rider proportions.", they went on to say "They are also majorly enamored with Yi Jianlian...the SF met area has the highest percentage of Asians in the entire country...makes sense." You did put it under Rumors but it just didn't sit well with me. I think Monta has a huge future and it's dissapointing that slander on the internet is not only ok but quotable. I didn't mean to offend you and as I said I love the site including the work you do...I was told to rant and rant I did

by BaronForPrez on Jul 17, 2007 11:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

Well let's dig it up

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/6/27/131725/678

It's fine to criticize and I really do appreciate the feedback (always), but it's wrong to misread and draw incorrect conclusions. You still aren't able to explain your accusation that Monta was dissed to hype up Yi. That's entirely wrong and shady that you'd even post a lie like that.

Again, the main sources on that piece were from Rotoworld and Draft Express which few folks would say are not credible or reliable. What can I say? If you're upset because other people knocked a guy who was a on pedestal for you, there's not much I can do for you. It's ridiculous and homer-like to get mad that I ran those links and quotes because they upset some.

Look if it didn't sit well with you about those Monta comments from other people that's fine, but honestly you're getting upset with the messenger and the linker (me) which is pretty odd.

I think you were encouraged to give constructive criticism and that isn't what you did.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 17, 2007 11:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

Now won't the real slim shady please stand up...

Your largest block of quote was from neither of those sources, but from The Real GM message boards, which I have a feeling doesn't have real GMs. Also i'm not sure how an opinion (mine) can be constituted as a lie, as I wasn't stating anything as fact. It's MY opinion. I'm not lying to you about how I feel. Monta isn't on any pedastal for me, if Monta really is "an idiot" as you quoted, then so be it... it's just irresponsible to quote a "Real GM" forum member in which he questions someones character. I consider GSoM a reputable source of Warriors related news, but ESPN and the like would never post such an outlandish claim from some Forum hobo, even in the Rumors section. I already explained the Monta/Yi parallel twice in my last post. It's obvious the original poster was anti-Monta, pro-Yi. Did the post call for constructive criticism?... Because I read it as "We might just need a bitch session. You know, a time to complain and critique and even diss a bit." And I didn't even take it to that level, all I did was aire my complaint sandwiched between a "Overall this is a great website." and a "keep up the good work".

by BaronForPrez on Jul 18, 2007 12:29 AM PDT up 0 recs

Not true at all man

It is a little biased sometimes on what the creators personal opinions are (most notably the Anti-Monta rumors posted on the main page because they want Yi here)

You posed your opinion as a fact. In doing so you questioned my intentions and credibility. Sorry, that's just wrong.

Again, you're failing to address the Draft Express and Rotoworld quotes. The quote from RealGM only augmented it.

There's not much I can do for you unless you address those points.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 18, 2007 8:21 AM PDT up 0 recs

It's all good in this hood

Hey man, I apologize. I didn't mean to get into a war of words, especially on the internet, ESPECIALLY with a Warriors fan. I didn't have a problem with your other sources, just that one because he made serious claims about Monta and there is no way to verify or make him accountable. I just had my one complaint, but without you guys I wouldn't even have a place to put it. Keep on keepin on

by BaronForPrez on Jul 18, 2007 12:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

No thang man

Stay up!

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 18, 2007 12:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

Growing Pains

without that kid and his inner monologues with the spacing out camera view pulling out from the scene. (Kind of an old show, don't know if these internet kids with the lols and hahahas in posts would remember it)

KG to the Warriors is a definite wait and see, impatient people are going to suffer the most.

Wait and see is the whole theme of what's going to happen around here in regards to Atma dropping the note of "big things on the horizon on the backend" to get some stuff in place. I'm going to think he's hustling to get that done but has to wait and work around the red tape of SBNation.

Labeling things isn't a requirement but its going to let everyone get into a better habit of labeling what their dairy is mostly about in one sentence or less, yeah?

Zorg disappeared for a bit but the Foyle notes and small reports at then end of other things brought him back out of the woodwork!

by back2back51s on Jul 17, 2007 10:20 PM PDT 0 recs

No, it wasn't the Foyle notes that bought me back

I was addicted to Sim Leagues. Then I looked at GSoM and was like, "Look who I've left behind!" So I started posting again.

Tony aka Drawlz600 is AWESOME!!!!

by Zorgon on Jul 18, 2007 3:48 AM PDT up 0 recs

My bad

I forgot about 'Buike/Powell/etc. getting minutes which is good to see and doubly so for you who wanted this guy (Kelenna) to get at least some legit playoff minutes.

So NBA TV's Summer League probably was a draw to come back here too right?

by back2back51s on Jul 18, 2007 4:28 AM PDT up 0 recs

SORRY

But I'm confused by your #'g! What happened to #'s 2, 3, etc.? I must have missed something!

We are a relatively young, growing community that is trying out new rules and regulations and, well, frankly, some of the efforts are misguided. For example (and this is not a personal critique, but rather, a functionality issue): the new words in the titles (REPORT, IDEA, etc). Truthfully, they suck.

I personally like adding REPORT, IDEA, RUMOR, etc. to the title of diaries to differentiate what they might be about. I think the issue is whether or not they're used in the right context and not necessarily that it contains the right content. I don't think it's in anyway misguiding or tricking people into thinking it's something else.

Nevertheless...things that make you go hmmmm!

"GO BIG or GO HOME!!!"

by scottiepimppen on Jul 17, 2007 10:20 PM PDT 0 recs

numbering explained

i meant to leave room for BESTS and WORSTS from everyone else!

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 17, 2007 10:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

EXPLANATION ACCEPTED

Thanks for the clarification! I thought I was going blind or crazy for a second!

"GO BIG or GO HOME!!!"

by scottiepimppen on Jul 17, 2007 10:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

I HATE THE INDIAN

THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE W'S

by dallaswarrior on Jul 17, 2007 10:39 PM PDT 0 recs

Yo man

Why you gotta diss me and Hash? That's messed up!

(joking, but yeah I do think that stereotypical Native American mascot needs to go)

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 17, 2007 10:52 PM PDT up 0 recs

wait...

i did mention you!

but as for Hash, really, i could write a whole diary of apprecation there. i am, the name itself evokes so many happy concepts. i love corned beef hash...

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 17, 2007 10:58 PM PDT up 0 recs

To be honest...

I don't mind having a stereotypical mascot on this site or any other for that matter. Oh how I would love to have a stereotypical mascot of my race. I can imagine it now.... half red headed Irish guy drinking a beer & eatin potatoes, 1/4 German guy drinking beer & eating Brauts, and 1/4 stereotypical indian guy (not fuity lookin, but badass). One can only dream!

by Bake Da Ripper on Jul 17, 2007 10:59 PM PDT up 0 recs

hmm

aint that the celtics mascot?

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jul 18, 2007 3:32 AM PDT up 0 recs

Indian logo- see below

I have dealt with the Indian logo situation.

Scroll down for an update.

by OptionZero on Jul 17, 2007 11:06 PM PDT up 0 recs

Once again:

A one word label takes you two seconds to type. For example, without "Video" in the Azubuike diary, maybe someone would think it's just another repost of his signing (which we had). Perhaps beyond the label the title would be better, but people like to use a little creative licensing of catch phrases or jokes or what not, and that just adds to the personality of each poster. Not a big deal.

If you're one to dig through all the diaries anyways, then the label doesn't affect you at all- by your own admission, you read the site religiously and scan other sites as well. If such is the case, I could probably label a diary "REPORT: Tiger Woods Works Out for Warriors", and you would still click on it. Why? Just cuz.

For other situations, however, we've gotten so many trolls posting their random ideas or fake rumors, that it's hard to separate the content from the chaff. If it's labeled properly, you know someone probably cares enough to post something worth glancing at , at the least.

And since it takes so little time, and some people like it, and it doesn't affect those who don't (aside from having something to complain about)...what's the problem, really?

If the titles without labels weren't informative enough, and the labels with labels aren't informative for you...then...again...what's the beef?

by OptionZero on Jul 17, 2007 10:44 PM PDT 0 recs

the beef is aesthetic, maybe political

it's not a big deal, i'm just saying i don't like it. i don't want you to feel like you need to defend the system. i am more seeking to air out the situation, encourage conversation, and see where that takes us.

for me, a better rule would be: have a clear title. if you want, list examples of good titles.

i guess i am a little more left-brain (or is it right-brain?), or more anarchist over militarist, or more artist over scientist: i am into the creative and kooky titles more than i am into this place being a clearly defined roadmap to specified information.

all of that said, i am not going to preach on this for long. (on a side note: i think it is interesting, mr. OZ, that now that you have been appointed sherriff, you are posting a lot. on a positive tip, you are "owning" your new responsibility. at the same time, you are taking up more space. just something to think about.)

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 17, 2007 10:54 PM PDT up 0 recs

Totally with Mike D on the labels

"Be clear" or "don't mislead" are much better rules of thumb. For the budding sportswriters/bloggers among us, coming up with a clever, poetic title is half the fun of writing a diary. I don't mind seeing the occasional label -- it does help navigate the site -- but it'd get really tedious to see a label on every diary. I for one will be miffed if anyone ever slaps a label on one of my diaries. Just letting you know advance ;-D

As an aside, drivel like the gswarrior4life's latest diary shouldn't really be dignified with the label "idea." Plenty of sports blogs have specific language that discourages totally outlandish trade proposals and "laundry list" posts with no analysis (a la 49erGiantwhatever). Also, I have no problem with the occasional typo or grammatical error, but it's a tough slog when every other word is misspelled or misused.

If for whatever reason you see fit not to delete stuff like that, you should at least label it "my pre-pubescent fantasy" or "look at me, I wrote a diary..."

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 19, 2007 11:15 AM PDT up 0 recs

how about we

just stop repeating diaries? and show a little courtesy?

"All of this has been covered before, so maybe it isn't worth its own diary; but at least it isn't a rumor, per se." Ya, ya I need a url: http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/7/18/171/84274
(see most recent diary!) Accidents happen, myself included! But let's at least look down the list of diaries before we duplicate each other's efforts. Back end, Front end, sideways, whatever. We don't need Atma to pull electronic miracles, and having diarycop supervising diaries is just a sad development when WE CAN DO IT OURSELVES.

GSoM was great and will be again, when as a community we lighten up and respect eachother's ideas rather than continue the pissing contests. That's what separated this from lots of the other blogs.

by hardcore on Jul 17, 2007 10:48 PM PDT 0 recs

WAHHHHH :(

God damn dude, bunch of whiners. Give me a break. The indian is an old logo. It's part of the history of the franchise. Get over it. It's not worse than the Cleveland Indians, or the Washington Redskins, or the Atlanta Braves.

Stop taking an issue with nothing just for the sake of taking an issue. I know there isn't jack else to talk about but it doesn't give you whiners free reigns to just cry about stuff that doesn't matter anyways.

I personally think everything is fine and CANT WAIT for the season to start so you primadonnas can start whining about how we're playing instead of minor crap like sigs and rules.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma on Jul 17, 2007 10:50 PM PDT 0 recs

whining about whining

is the irony intentional?

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 17, 2007 10:56 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yea...

I co-sign this.

I opened this diary expecting to laugh, and I got much more then that.

Pointless diary...original poster sounds like the Father of GSoM or something.

Good job buddy.

by gswrico on Jul 17, 2007 10:57 PM PDT up 0 recs

Edit

I co-sign COMAS comments, by the way.

by gswrico on Jul 17, 2007 10:59 PM PDT up 0 recs

lol

i'm assuming you are not co-signing my mocking of his mocking. i double-mock you as well. with respect, of course.

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 17, 2007 10:59 PM PDT up 0 recs

it's not any worse

than Cleveland, Washington, and Atlanta... but does that make it ok? i'm not a fan at all of th old warrior mascot and i'm glad that they got rid of the "native american" mascot at University of Illinois and his fake "tribal" dances.

by dj fuzzylogic on Jul 18, 2007 6:40 AM PDT up 0 recs

ATTENTION: The Indian logo and ranters

User "jeppalepala" 's "Philly Warriors" logo has been the subject of complaints.

For all those who have a problem with it, listen up:

jeppalepala has decided voluntarily to change his signature. He does not believe it is offensive, since it is the actual logo that was used by the team back in the day; others in fact think it's just kinda funny.

In an effort to salve some of the tensions going on right now, jeppalepala has graciously agreed not to cause any trouble. I asked him if he'd do it, with no repercussions, and he stepped up to the plate.

By tomorrow it should be changed (he went to sleep already), so give him the 24 hours or whatever.

I am leaving this diary open for now so people can let off some steam. In the future, however, I don't really want to see more diaries about how the site is run, and I don't want to see off-hand comments about any of the GSoMers (atma, me, anyone).

My personal information is here:

jon.d.ma@gmail.com
AIM (Jetforze)

I'm giving you my info for a reason- if you have issues with the site is run, TALK TO ME. I'm here, I'll listen, I'm not hiding from anyone. A number of members have already taken the time to chat with me, everyone else is welcome to as well.

Let's get back to writing diaries about the Warriors and Basketball.

Fair enough, everyone?

by OptionZero on Jul 17, 2007 11:05 PM PDT 0 recs

I don't really want to see more diaries about how

" the site is run, and I don't want to see off-hand comments about any of the GSoMers (atma, me, anyone)'

Crap! You've come up the perfect recipe to ruin a good thing. I hope someone starts a new version of the real GSofM before next season cause this one's gonna be hella boring.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 17, 2007 11:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

careful how you wield your power

ok, i guess you could delete this diary. but that type of censorship would be discouraging. in terms of the prohibition on "off-hand comments," i don't know. i don't want anyone making personal attacks. but there is something about putting your name (or your "signature") on a website, as a moderator or founder, that truly puts you in the public view and, essentially, fair game for criticism. that's the journalistic aspect of what we are doing - people write things, people even create this website - and because it is an interactive blog, you get feedback. if you don't want interactivity, then you lose this whole community.

now, of course, we all want this blog to be on point - focused on the most interesting news about the dubs. the trick is, how do we get there?

i would agree with the premise, spoken and unspoken, that we need a little bit of regulation out here. thus, OZ, regulator.

we also still need to keep the doors open for public discussion, of the website itself and of course of the Dub Nation. big bureaucracies have a person called the "ombudsman" that takes care of stuff like this. nonprofit organizations go on retreats to air all the ideas and beefs. here, we need to have a little focused conversation once in a while (i think, at least) to remind ourselves what we are doing here.

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 18, 2007 12:23 AM PDT up 0 recs

Deletion?

If I were going to delete this diary, I would have done it dozens of comments ago. As I said, I'll let people get their feelings out now and let that be that. I don't want it to be an ongoing thing, I think we have better things to talk about: The Warriors, the NBA, Being Unstoppable

In case you missed it, my sig is the product of other posters, not me.

coma made the badge
gamesix likened me to Dwight
Unstoppable is the site motto
Optionzero is me

hence the sig, it's self-depreciating, if you watch the Office you'll know, and it's not to toot my own horn or such, it's supposed to be funny

by OptionZero on Jul 18, 2007 12:28 AM PDT up 0 recs

hmmm....

a couple of little things:

(1) as your most recent comment, "If I were going to delete this diary, I would have done it dozens of comments ago." illustrates, power can be a dangerous thing. suddenly, you can delete my diary? why? just because you are moderator now? is that going to make this a better place? this deserves more discussion.

(2) i wasn't talking about your webpin in particular. i followed the creation process on that. i was making a more global point that, hey, if you are the publisher of the New York Times, some days you are going to get called out, by name, in public, for some of the things going on in your paper, rightly or wrongly; and if you are ATMA BROTHER ONE or, now, OptionZero, and you are the official GSOM crew, you will occasionally be called by name, rightly or wrongly, and that is just part of the game.

i mean, there are some benefits to running this site, right? a little bit of ad revenue must be coming in. there are definitely tickets, other freebies, access to the dubs. of course, no one is a millionaire. but, as far as Warriors fans go, the GSOM official folks are semi-celebrities. so, enjoy your celebrity, with all that comes with it!

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 18, 2007 1:31 AM PDT up 0 recs

Now you're filling in blanks with assumptions

It's not an illustration of power. I left it open because, like you said, it deserved discussion. I think you're letting your anarchist side get the best of you here.
Getting called out on content is fine. People are free to post their opinion on the substance of writings. Questioning the system, even, is acceptable- but to a point. There is no system that will please everyone, and attempting to do so results in no system at all. Isn't it possible to participate in the community and respect how it operates even while disagreeing personally with some aspects of it? We could spend all of time debating the finer points of organization of blogs and whatnot, but then we'd have no time for basketball. Just suck it up, do your best to play along, and take whatever fun you can out of it.

If GSoM makes money, I don't know about it. Again, the anarchist side of you is grasping. You don't think people can run this site because they enjoy doing this? Why are you trying to undercut the product of their enthusiasm and creativity by pinning some ulterior motive on them in a passive aggressive way?

by OptionZero on Jul 18, 2007 1:47 AM PDT up 0 recs

um, nothing passive here

its not passive when you say it directly.

i wasn't saying that you have the keys to the site and know all about the income from the banner and google ads. however, that does add up to something.

and i'm not trying to bring anything down. i like this place (i think i said that before). i want it to be good, better, awesome, amazing. that's why i bring the criticism - essentially, i am trying to shed light on ways this can be better. i like reading all the comments (yours included), the diaries, etc. i don't want that experience to be lost in a wave of crack-downs and such.

but, i still don't think you get me on the power issue. let's let it sit for a bit. we'll see how things go.

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 18, 2007 1:58 AM PDT up 0 recs

I'm starting the official......

Jeppalepala's Philly Warrior movement. Right here, right now.There's nothing wrong with it at all. Anybody who has a problem is over reacting. It's a team logo. Not a racial slur.

by Bake Da Ripper on Jul 18, 2007 1:22 AM PDT up 0 recs

FINALLY thank GOD!

NOAH HAS WRITTEN ON STONE! But yea guys furreals i wasn't trying to be racist... i mean maybe the 1936 whatever Philladelphia Warriors were... but uhh... not i so yea lol leave me be

by jeppalepala on Jul 18, 2007 1:43 AM PDT up 0 recs

whoa whoa

people had a problem with it because its racist? those people should grow a thicker skin. i mean if i up and call some white guy a Cracker, we know its wrong and i shouldnt do it... but no one has the right to make me not say it. you could have the most racist, sexist sig known to man, and i'd probably think you were a total dick for having it and not like you.... but i'm not gonna stop you.

i only had a problem with it because it was FRICKIN HUGE! ...as is your wilt one btw. i even dropped my "Boom Tho Movement" pic because combined with my current one, it was just too big and gaudy =\

by nativeson on Jul 18, 2007 5:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

RANT: These diary titles and diaries

"Everything wrong w/GSOM"? Come on man. Don't you think that's a little misleading to new visitors of this site who see your diary title? It seems like the majority of your beef is with other community members, not the writers or the main blog. I'd appreciate it if you specified that with your title.

You did make a lot of constructive points and I give you a ton of credit for that. However, I can honestly tell you that the misdirected and mislabeled rants that are becoming all to commonplace here and all the negativity about GSoM from GSoMers are really starting to annoy me. To be perfectly honest with ya'll it's going to send me into an early retirement from GSoM. I'm just sick of it. (and this isn't entirely directed at mike d by any stretch- he's been a great longtime and loyal GSoMer)

In terms of traffic this is the leading blog on the entire SB Nation network and we're younger than many of them. That includes Athletics Nation and it's our offseason right now. Pause for a second and marinate on that- a Golden State Warriors blog the top traffic getter? How did that happen? Before the Warriors even ended the curse we were top 5 in terms of traffic. We're the top (or maybe top 2) NBA team blog out there also even before everyone jumped on the Warrior bandwagon.

If there's so much wrong with GSoM that deserves a diary or two a week filled with rants, then the other sports team blogs must really, really be screwing up. Either that or we're doing something right...

No doubt there's tons for this entire community to improve upon, but I'm proud of what we've achieved in a little over 2 years.

UNSTOPPABLE BABY!

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 17, 2007 11:09 PM PDT 0 recs

Growing pains

Don't leave us man.

The influx of traffic from the awesome season and the KG rumors has hit a wall because of the lull in the offseason, so the community is getting a little restless.

Also, as we get bigger, we have to learn to live with each other.

Its an adjustment period, but hey...thats what the offseason is for. Come training camp and preseason, we'll be rounding into game-shape. We're already UNSTOPPABLE, can you imagine how good we'll bee once we hit our stride, figure it all out?

UNSTOPPABLE x10!

by OptionZero on Jul 17, 2007 11:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

hmmm

my point of writing this diary was to create a release where a lot of these random bickerings can be taken care of in one place. gswrico aside (i don't think you get the point, hombre), a lot of the dialogue here is constructive. in fact, contrary to what folks are saying about the ugliness of all the ranting, it is better to take care of these conversations in ONE place as opposed to CONSTANTLY having these conversations in MANY places at once.

thus, if we can get all the bitching and complaining out of the way right here, then maybe we can get 20 or 30 diaries in a row about NBA basketball, etc.

those of you that are RANTING about my RANTING, you don't get it - the title of this diary is ironic, the point is to bring up BESTS and WORSTS and if you don't have any worsts, bring up some bests! (don't keep repeating the worst, or killing the messenger; get on to whatever positive thing you might have to say.)

by OaktownWarrior on Jul 18, 2007 12:08 AM PDT up 0 recs

I agree with OZ

Don't leave, Atma. It might be a little bit weird now, but OZ's already doing a good job and the Unstoppableness will get even more Unstoppable-er when the season starts!

UNSTOPPABLE BABY!!!

GOOD LUCK, JRICH. WE MISS YOU, MAN.

by goGSW24 on Jul 18, 2007 12:46 AM PDT up 0 recs

Thank You

By the way...the only thing I laughed at in this diary, was dude talking about "new regulations" and he isnt even a mod.

by gswrico on Jul 17, 2007 11:15 PM PDT 0 recs

Im sorry...

Someone has to say this....this post is ridiculous. Fighting on here about a certain topic is what DRIVES this site. If everyone just danced around and talked about "how nice Adonal Foyle is" or "isnt baron davis great?" all day, Atma wouldnt HAVE to retire because he would have fallen asleep already. This site is exciting cause of the diversity, and your theory about how we all need to be one happy family to make it a better site, is off the wall.

As a matter of fact....if nobody fired back at you about this, YOUR diary would have had no responses, and would have been boring...how ironic.

by gswrico on Jul 17, 2007 11:24 PM PDT 0 recs

people need to realize something

click this link to learn the way of the wombat!! http://www.globalcommunity.org/flash/wombat.shtml
(turn your volume down first)

by stedanko on Jul 17, 2007 11:46 PM PDT 0 recs

WTF

whats wrong with GSOM?

-coments under this topic show it well

-people take care about lot of shit out of bball -out of team

-even cop is needed?
-as kids yore playin this world out here -someone is badguy someone cop and someone junky

anyway
-lotofhere have to growup
-even GSOM -cause if you not growin yore diein

best comentator ever -ZORGON

by Lat We N Trash on Jul 17, 2007 11:55 PM PDT 0 recs

WTF

wrong wit englesh can nut tulk left? no i men right.

you gaw do tings my way touch cuz right no fight till die make history wit biedrins RAR!

help me nun to earth power talk to much shizzle out side of basket bol nothing to do with team

i not understand american ways to out topic things

need cops for...

lol just kidding here peoples ill translate

WTF

Translation = What The F*k

-coments under this topic show it well

-people take care about lot of shit out of bball -out of team

Translation = People on this site talk about too many unrelated topics other than the team itself and the players on the team, "we really show our team spirit" (sarcasm)

-even cop is needed?

Translation = We even need to be policed by Honorable Captain OptionZero? (I know you liked that one)

-as kids yore playin this world out here -someone is badguy someone cop and someone junky

Translation = One day we will all choose a path and become what we were destined to be! GLORIOUSLY PUT *Lat We N Trash!

anyway
-lotofhere have to growup
-even GSOM -cause if you not growin yore diein

Translation = Many of the bloggers here must mature and act as young proffessionals, model citizens of a society! Even the moderators and staff of GSoM must mature as well because I believe I'm better than you all or else you will die! WOW SO HARD MR Lat We N Trash!

best comentator ever -ZORGON

Translation = Best Comentator ever - Jeppalepala

by jeppalepala on Jul 18, 2007 12:24 AM PDT up 0 recs

Zorgon is a GSoM OG

Translation: If you don't like Zorgon, something must be wrong, with you! /to paraphrase the Big Shaq

Layoff that BS with "trying to act hard," that's just flamebait with putting words in his mouth.

by back2back51s on Jul 18, 2007 12:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

yea he is i didnt say i didnt like him

quote me then if i did

by jeppalepala on Jul 18, 2007 12:59 AM PDT up 0 recs

Here

I hate Zorgon. Bwahahahaha!

- jeppalepala

Nah, jk. I don't think he was really trying to insult me, guys. And thanks, Lat We N Trash and 51s.

Tony aka Drawlz600 is AWESOME!!!!

by Zorgon on Jul 18, 2007 3:41 AM PDT up 0 recs

laconism is highest velue

i said what i said

-your translation is just interpretation
-how meany readers so meany interpretations

by Lat We N Trash on Jul 18, 2007 12:50 AM PDT up 0 recs

GSOM-plosion

I'm totally in agreement with Mike D and this diary.
It was a really thoughtful diary. If anything like this was deleted by the Secret Police, I'd be pissed. Think about it. All this BS because of an obnoxious poster. GSOM admins have to take responsibility, but there are better ways to solve problems then by royal decree. Like you could have put a guidelines discussion on the first page during the offseason. Make it democratic. Build community. Maybe you would have learned how easy it is to add a recommendation system for the diaries and have them listed on the sidebar.

A little wisdom could have weighed the options between putting up or banning a diary poster like 49er versus all this negative crap. I'm a little tired of our Admins throwin down with posters at the drop of a hat. Its YOUR site right? Why stoop to arguing?

by eshock on Jul 18, 2007 12:40 AM PDT 0 recs

Uhh how bout leave the mods alone? ehh?

lets all play like good little children i know its a waiting period for all of us just waiting for all this shit to start but were really stabbing eachother in the back... really i mean were all restless for the new season but yall shut the hell up and just chill out fureals... man its like 6 peolpe running this you know? and i mean its hard enuff running it then yall be talking wreckless and shit... really please like furreals just this one just chill out and take a deep breath and laff at something like my translation

by jeppalepala on Jul 18, 2007 12:58 AM PDT up 0 recs

Um what are you talking about?

For the record I would never delete this diary. I have personally only deleted a diary if it didn't follow the character limit, was a blatant repeat with no additional in depth analysis (god- there were like 4 Azubuike signing diaries when it was already on the front page), or something racist/ homophobic, etc (usually from a dumb fan of a different team). But thankfully I'm out of the moderation/ baby-sitting game to focus on writing.

GSOM admins have to take responsibility, but there are better ways to solve problems then by royal decree.

When have we not taken responsibility? And by the way there are no "admins" here. There's 5 writers and 1 moderator (OptionZero).

Like you could have put a guidelines discussion on the first page during the offseason.

There's a community guidelines under the About Golden State of Mind section. It used to be on the main Opening Tip menu, but we moved it to save space. Every time you post a comment or diary there's a link to it. Honestly what more do you want? If people don't read it or follow it that's out of our hands.

Make it democratic.

Every time we've made a major change Fantasy Junkie or I have posted a diary asking for suggestions and feedback. I think that's a pretty misguided statement.

Build community.

Well I think that's what we have done. Sorry, but I really don't need your advice on how to build a community. I've actually helped do it. There's over 8,000 people who visit GSoM everyday good for 25,000+ hits a day. If you don't think GSoM is a community, then you probably weren't there for GSoM Night where over 350+ GSoMers rolled to a Warriors game.

Maybe you would have learned how easy it is to add a recommendation system for the diaries and have them listed on the sidebar.

Maybe you should stop making these assumptions. We've posted several times that we DO NOT have that functionality on the GSoM backend system. We are running on an older system than Athletics Nation and much far behind Daily Kos. For the millionth time this is completely out of our hands.

Sorry man, but this makes no sense and I have no idea what you're talking about.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 18, 2007 8:51 AM PDT up 0 recs