Thought: There's Something In The Air...

by gswfan4life on Jul 27, 2007 3:46 AM PDT

And it smells like....

Something "Major" (thanx Posh Spice) is going down. Now, this diary is not about KG, nor do I have sources to support my gut feeling, but it does seem like Mully is up to something and here's why:

As most of you know, ever since Mully took over, the Warriors have been one of the most active teams on the trade market. They have kept everything to themselves and most of their moves were never forseen by many beatwriters and hardcore fans. From acquiring Davis, Jackson, Harrington and recently Wright, many of these moves were never mentioned in rumors and literally came out of nowhere. When Mully first came on board, we ALL knew that the Warriors needed a SuperStar and so what did he do?

He acquired Davis for a sandwich and some pickles on the side! When we knew "DunMurphy" weren't the answers to our playoff run and thought we would never be able to get rid of their contracts, Mully did exactly the opposite and pulled a rabbit out of his hat and traded both their contracts. When we thought we didn't have enough money to resign Ellis/Beidrins and needed help down low, Mully traded Richardson for Wright and the $10 Million TPE.

A lot of fans like myself are wondering why the Warriors are so 'quiet' during the offseason and many fans and national writers are criticizing the Warriors for their lack of movement during the free agency period. I can understand why they would be upset and criticized, but if you really take a look at how Mully and the Warriors operate, that's exactly what he wants and this is where my gut feeling comes to play. I can't imagine a better time for a 'big move' to happen within the next couple weeks with all the flexibility the Warriors have.

We know the Warriors need another big on the floor that can rebound, score in the low post and defend monsters such as Duncan and Boozer. We know that Davis has 2 years left on his contract and Nelly won't coach beyond this year and maybe next year unless he coaches a contender for the championship. And lastly, we all know Mully likes to operate under the radar and shock the basketball world.

So what does this all mean? Does this mean KG is coming to the Bay? Does this mean we're keeping our roster intact and just adding a few bigs down low who slightly improve our playoff chances? Who knows, but my gut feeling tells me something BIG is about to happen that will shock the Warriors Nation and we're all about to find out.

After writing this, maybe this diary is about KG ;) or maybe not!

What do you think?

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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But

According to your assumptions, a KG deal wouldn't fit the bill since nnow everyone and their mom is now expecting it to happen; it isn't something "out of left field" like Mullin's other trades. Maybe he's working on a trade for Duncan or Amare. Haha yeah right..

But I do have to agree with you. It feels like they're stocking up on depth players right now because they know that the big trade is gonna deplete the bench. Resigning Azubuike, drafting Belinelli, possibly resigning Pietrus for cheap? That's a little more guard depth than we actually need. Getting Wright, drafting Lasme, offering Powell a contract, possibly signing Perovic?? That's an excess of big men as well.

by jlagace on Jul 27, 2007 4:19 AM PDT reply actions

Exactly!

It feels like they're stocking up on depth players right now because they know that the big trade is gonna deplete the bench. Resigning Azubuike, drafting Belinelli, possibly resigning Pietrus for cheap? That's a little more guard depth than we actually need. Getting Wright, drafting Lasme, offering Powell a contract, possibly signing Perovic?? That's an excess of big men as well."

There's a lot of depth here and there's not enough playing time for a lot of them to develop and play. So if you were Minnesota, or some other NBA team and saw the amount of pieces and flexibility the Warriors had, what NBA GM wouldn't want to discuss a deal with them?

"All I can say is wow!"

by gswfan4life on Jul 27, 2007 5:14 AM PDT up reply actions

YUP

When i first started reading this diary i was thinking to myself "this guy is writing about a whole buncha nothing". But to be honest, it really does feel like something is gonna happen with this team that's gonna draw emotions from the fans one way or the other. It does feel like something is brewing. I don't see Mulsen just sitting on their hands and playing next season with the current roster as is.

by ssmokinjoe on Jul 27, 2007 4:52 AM PDT reply actions

Indiana Again?

I find the lack of talk about the Warriors dealing with Indiana again surprising.

They seem to like to deal.

Both sides still seem happy with the last trade.

Indiana wants to trade a highly paid, strong playing PF.

The Warriors need one.

It's too quiet about that for me. I wonder...

by Gain on 10 on Jul 27, 2007 7:07 AM PDT reply actions

ah yes

Jermaine has been sort of lurking in the shadows this offseason...interesting...

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 27, 2007 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions

nice

tight post. As a dub fan, its hella exciting. Pre-Mullin, there was no excitement via trades etc. (We might be on to something...." extra points to those who remember that slogan.)

i hope something goes down

by jrizzle on Jul 27, 2007 11:02 AM PDT reply actions

well done....

i feel ya, they got me on eggshells....either way this last year really has been amazing to be a dubs fan....slight improvement from my past 10 years of fandom, though i'd never trade those years, peace, dan

by BeLEGENDelliAllDay on Jul 27, 2007 11:21 AM PDT reply actions

i really don't think there's any chance in hell

that the Dubs will stand pat this year. I'm not gonna reiterate points that gswfan4life and many others have stated but it just wouldn't make much sense...

I loved our draft this year, i love our flexibility, and i love where our franchise is going but it looks like we'll have to wait for Mullin to make his move. We have the flexibility to do almost ANYTHING as long as the imagination is there and the other team isn't in our division...

By the way, Pree mentioned something about Mullin inquiring about another disgruntled player (not KG)...Other than say, Artest, what other disgruntled players are out there at good value?

by sadleavy on Jul 27, 2007 11:38 AM PDT reply actions

Kobe...?

Not necessarily good value, but definitely disgruntled and Mullin definitely loves him. I may be in the GSoM minority on this, but any package I would give up for KG I would also give up for Kobe.

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 27, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions

Kobe...

We have the flexibility to do almost ANYTHING as long as the imagination is there and the other team isn't in our division...

I don't think the Lakers would pull the trigger even if we had the best deal available simply because of who and where we are...Southern California would erupt in anger.... :)

But yeah, i agree....I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Who else is disgruntled? JO? AK? Brand maaaybe (problem: division rival)? The rest of the Pacers rosters now that they're teammates with DunMurphy? The Mavericks? It seems like the angriest and most disappointed people in the league are either in our division or have played us in the playoffs...Karma is a sweet, sweet bitch.

by sadleavy on Jul 27, 2007 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree

on Jermaine O'neal. Im surprised his name hasnt surfaced at all through all these speculations even though he was involved in other rumors considering the potential Kobe trade... the silence speaks words.

Also, I think you bring up an excellent point with AK. He would be such an excellent fit for our team, and given the fact that he sucked last year and cried in front of media cams, along with his hefty contract, I would expect his stock to have dropped considerably. I think Kirilenko could be acquired for Harrington straight up.

Would anyone else make this deal? Would the 10 mil exception work with this? Do you honostly believe that AK is finished and would not flourish like a he did a couple years ago on a new environment like the Warriors?

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 27, 2007 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions

actually...

now that I think about it, Im not too keen on Sloan's politics...would he even like Harrington?
It seems to me that Harrington would fit the mold of a Mehmet Okur, as a skilled big man who can stretch the defense and front some other big guys down low...
Is there any reason to think that Sloan wouldnt like Harrington?

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 27, 2007 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Harrington was too soft for Nellie

He's MOST CERTAINLY too soft for Sloan, the most hard-nosed and irascible (did i spell and use that right?) coach in the league...

I could see Utah being tempted by a big-guard like Richardson (who we no longer have) or anything involving Brandan Wright (he's light-skinned enough, right?).

by sadleavy on Jul 27, 2007 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions

wtf

Who said TMNT was too soft for Nellie? And why are you guys sitting here forgetting that Al played an integral part in our road to the playoffs? He single handedly shut down Yao in a game last year. Seriously, don't sit here and throw crap like that around without backing it up. The guy has improved his strength inside 10fold since coming here.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma @ Golden State Of Mind on Jul 27, 2007 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions

relax...

I never said he was too soft, and I actually disagree with that. I think there is a misconception of Harrington being soft due to his lack of shot-blocking ability and rebounding.

I think he is an excellent post defender however, and does another excellent job switching, rotating on defense and locking up C's with double teams.

His outside shot really creates different opportunities for our gaurds, given that he draws the opposing big man out to contest 22 ft. jumpers. He also allows Andris more breathing room down low due to this outside skill.

However, his outside shot could deem interchangable if Belinelli translates, and if we still add another shooter, or retain Barnes.
Hence the needs of rebounding and protection still serve as our need.

Could you even imagine the protection and rebounding a range a trio of Kirilenko, Biedrins, and Wright would provide. Also, the timing would seem suitable while AK has 4 remaining years on his contract, theoretically allowing Wright a window of 3 years to emerge as the star many believe he will be, thus making AK a worthy expiring contract for the remaining year.

AK is the kind of versatile, mobile, athletic, rebounding, shotblocking, and when he's confident, shooting big man Don Nelson loves.

I understand that Harrington played a key part of our success last year, that cant be argued, but I would rather have Kirilenko, he is capable of just too much, and his stock seems to have dropped considerably. Its just an idea. Nobody is saying Harrington's a bad player, you just have to consider different opportunities that could allow you to improve.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 27, 2007 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Without J-Rich's contract ...

what could we throw at Utah? Would the 10 mil exception be enough you think?

I think there is a misconception of Harrington being soft due to his lack of shot-blocking ability and rebounding.

Hmm....That must've been what threw me off. :)

by sadleavy on Jul 27, 2007 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I can't believe he's not butter (better?)

Nelson basically said it on one of his many Razor and Mr. T interviews on KNBR. He mentions how he loves Al as a person and player and that he has all these tools to be a successful 4 but doesn't put it together.
I don't know where the link is but I've heard it mentioned many times that Nelson said that Al probably won't be starting next year. He's also the most skilled 4 on the team. So why isn't he starting and why are so many of us drooling over a Gooden or a Varejao?
He did not SINGLEHANDEDLY shut down Yao. He hustled and he had a LOT of help defense and guys rotating. Shutting down Yao was a team effort although Harrington handled himself well.

4)I watched every almost every game since the trade and I love TMNT but he was a league leader in 3 pt. %. He jacked up quite a few attempts too. (translation: less time in the paint).

5) Soft players tend to disappear in the rough and tumble playoffs. Harrington had a good game 1 and 3 against the Jazz because he was hitting quite a few treys. And i know he increased his strength, but physically he has the size to be a Boozer or Brand. So why isn't he? He's a finesse player (which Nellie loves) but he's not a consistent and hardy enough 4 for even Nellie to play him when it counts. So not only is he not a physically tough player but he may lack a certain mental toughness to stay consistent in the playoffs (he has no excuse like Monta).

Jax is a twig, but he bleeds toughness which is partly why Nellie was willing to stick him at the 4 throughout most of the playoffs.

6) 10fold? A little prone to hyperbole there eh?

by sadleavy on Jul 27, 2007 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions

nope.

singlehandedly.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma @ Golden State Of Mind on Jul 27, 2007 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions

You win

Can we play video games now? I'm bored.

by sadleavy on Jul 27, 2007 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions

while i like Al

i think what don nelson said sums it up. he's got the talent he just doesn't put it together. he is 6-9 quicker then most pfs and cordinated like sf. he should be good. he makes nice moves, but can't finish and isn't tough enough to make up for mistakes. I'm not sure Gooden would be better, i think he would be good though. he's probably like the opposite of al harington.

by Proof on Jul 28, 2007 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions

I think Al

needs to focus on his mid range game. He has such a nice skill set, and it drives me crazy just to see him waste it.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 28, 2007 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions

i think he doesn't really need to focus on his

jumpers. i think he has a great three point shot and a nice mid range. he just can't finish. and he can't jump very high.

by Proof on Jul 28, 2007 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions

I didnt say his jumper,

but his overall mid-range game. Your right, his jumper is very nice, so nice to the point where he is comfortable now being a catch and shoot perimeter player.

What I meant by working on his mid-range game, I meant that he needs to:

Develop some decent face up moves that would allow him to take slower defenders to the rim effectively.
Practice shooting off the dribble, rather than catching and shooting. Practice pulling up after dribbling left, right, forward, and back.
Work towards mastering the triple threat. This would be such a great tool for Al because of his quickness, along with his ability to shoot. His quickness would allow him to really earn some spacing, enabling him to take advantage of big men, and shoot over smaller forwards.
Perfect the turn-around jumper. I have seen him execute some pretty fade-aways after spinning off oponents. If he can grow more confident with his back to the basket out to 15 feet, than he can really keep some bigger guys guessing as far as the fadeaway, or the drive. This could really earn him alot of trips to the line. He needs to focus on some go to moves and pump fakes. He rushes alot of shots and gets alot of them blocked.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 28, 2007 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions

oh my bad

yeah i agree with that. when people say mid range im thinking basically a mid range jumper

by Proof on Jul 29, 2007 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions

people

also forget how important monta was and how during some stretches of the season he was our best player.

by Proof on Jul 28, 2007 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions

KB/KG v. JO/AK

I put these guys in totally different categories. Kobe and KG are dominant, Top 5 NBA talents with the ability to lead their team to a championship. If we landed either of them, BD would become our #2 or #1b guy (talent-wise, if not leadership-wise), which is really what he should be if we want to build a championship team.

AK-47 and JO, exciting as they are, are not franchise-type talents. They'd certainly improve us, but they're still more complements than cornerstones. Chances of either of them teaming with BD to lead us anywhere near the promised land: very, very remote.

On the other hand, AK-47 and JO do appear to be eminently available, so if we can get either of them them for a song (say, the TPE or Harrington, or even Foyle plus a #1 pick) I'd probably go for it. Can't say I'd be thrilled about it though. I see them both as kind of midway between Gooden and KG.

Basically, if we can't get Kobe or KG, I'd just as soon give our leftover minutes at PF to Brandan Wright and give up a few early-season wins for the chance to develop a cheap, young, homegrown star at PF.

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 27, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions

I pretty much agree with everything you said

If Baron is our #2 or #1b guy then we are most definetely title contenders. Besides, he's exactly the kinda player that KG needs to thrive. A strong point guard who wants to hit the shot at the end of the game (ala Sam Cassell). And Baron would be throwing Kobe all the Alleys he's ever dreamed of.

I don't think that JO or AK are franchise talents either. Honestly, I'm not even sure how excited i'd be to land JO. I'd rather have BWrightFuture get more minutes too.

However, I wouldn't mind getting AK on the CHEAP if we couldn't swing a deal for KG. Mullin has a good track record for reviving the careers of disgruntled players and Nelson would love to start AK at Center and Point Guard.

I'm curious to see how Mullie plays out the rest of this summer. I haven't heard a rumor in the papers for a while...Something's brewing.

by sadleavy on Jul 27, 2007 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes, Ak rather than J.O.

AK's salary is worth 13 mil with 4 yrs. remaining...
JO's salary is worth 20 mil with 2 yrs. left...

I agree with you guys about Jermaine O'Neal along with a new n improved Kirilenko, in that while KG would put us in contention for a championship, JO and company would probably put us in contention for a divisional title...

But the whole point of trading for AK over O'Neal is that Andre would cost us a considerably less price, in terms of what we'd be giving up on our end. We all have seen what he is capable of doing, and showed flashes of that player during the 2nd rd. last year. If Mullin can convince Sloan on Harrington, then I think the rest is really history.

Sarunas would seem to fit in perfectly well with Sloan's philosophy, given that he is a big, disciplined, experienced point that runs the pick n roll, plays hard with durability, and can make you pay when you leave him open. It would not be hard to get Sloan sold on Sarunas.

Throw in next year's first round pick, and you can honostly speculate from both sides why this would be a beneficial trade. Realistically, the Warriors are perfect suitors for an AK-47 because of the mentioned flexibility that next to no other teams have at this point...

Who else would be able to trade for a 13 mil dollar disgruntled player?(Baron Davis)...

I guess Im a little more optimistic about AK than the next guy, because it would be easy to give him a jump start and send him in the proper direction given our open court style of course. His speed, length, and overall athleticism would be enough for anyone to receive passes for easy buckets, which are said to be key to building confidence back up particularly to bigs and wings... I also think that Nelson's more of a players coach and would really make AK feel like he belongs..

Alot of you might laugh and tell me to stop smoking the rock, but I truly believed that last year, we could have beaten ANYONE any given night... It was just a matter of our regulars (BD,JR,Jax) showing up and each giving you 18+, along with the X factor (Beans,wonderboy,TMNT,Air,Barnes) having a big night as well... and you could always count on us playing good defense more than less...

With that said, I honostly dont know how much more we need to get a shot at a championship... The fact that the Cavs made it there tells you ALOT about the East...
It seems that the only ones standing in our way are an aging but excellent Spurs club, the Suns, and the Jazz... I aint scared of the Mavs...or the rockets.

One last thing about AK, just to paint a picture for all those enthusiasts...
Can you imagine the amount of cheating our gaurds can do on defense if we had Biedrins, Kirilenko, AND Wright guarding the basket? In the same lineup???? The thought of the potential weak side help just made me jizz myself...

The possibilities and defensive schemes Nelson could conjure due to this new avenue of shotblocking mayhem would be endless. Not to mention, that Wright, along with the Balkan mountains can ALL run the ball up the court after a collected block or rebound. Their speed would allow them to do anything and everything, whether its a defensive switch on the opposite side, or catching an alley after sprinting 60 feet...

That kind of blitzing defense would be enough to dominate any team... Id be a happy Warrior fan if we made that trade. Give me this line up

Baron/Pierce
Ellis/Belinelli
Jackson/Azubuiki/Pietrus or Barnes
Kirilenko/Wright/Lasme
Biedrins/Powell/Foyle/Perovic

The key to this would be keeping our young nucleas, along with the points mentioned

Considering the deal, if we were to include our 1st round pick, you can always look at the bright side in this way.

Theroetically speaking, many believed that Pierre Pierce would have been a lottery pick if not for his legal troubles right? I mean, scouts DID project his stock to be that high...
Since we acquired him, in a cosmic sense you could make the argument that he WAS our first round pick for next year, since he was practically a gimme since nobody got him, and we did for NOTHING. Does anyone understand what I mean by this? We never used a pick on him, but we did PICK him up... in the same effect we picked up Barnes without using a pick, thus expending a pick all of the sudden becomes that much more barable if it allows you to get where you want to go... feel me?

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 27, 2007 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions

AK cannot come to GSW

Dubs4Life would have to change his webpin, and it's too good

AK would have to put up with endless crap for getting posterized repeatedly and dramatically on a daily basis - it would be almost inhumane to subject him to that

on the other hand, he'd be assured that those same guys weren't dunk'n on his dome in games so maybe ...

by hardcore on Jul 27, 2007 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions

damn man...seriously though

I thought someone really wanted to talk about AK coming to the Warriors... it wasnt a joke.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 28, 2007 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions

I think plugging in AK at thet 4 instead of TMNT

gives us a NASTY nellieball lineup that we would actually have a shot at putting together.

Of course, I'd much rather prefer KG but if we could somehow put together a cheapo package (TMNT and Cabbages) for him, then I'd do it in a heartbeat. I don't think it would make us a contender like KG would, but I do think we'd be a playoff lock (and right now we aren't really).

There has literally been NO talk about an AK trade to the Dubs, maybe that means Mullin has something put together. :-) Then again, you could say that about anyone....

by sadleavy on Jul 28, 2007 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions

adonal plus a number 1

for JOneal and you wouldn't be thrilled about it? first of all that aint never gonna happen especially since indianna doesn't wanna get ripped off again, but why wouldn't you be thrilled.

by Proof on Jul 28, 2007 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions

hmmm?

Adonal and a number one?

I dont understand.

I wouldnt be thrilled to trade away Ellis and Wright for him.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 28, 2007 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions

oh yeah

niether would i but didn't he say adonal and a number one?

by Proof on Jul 28, 2007 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions

I hope he didn

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 28, 2007 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions

he did unless i mis understood what he meant.

by Proof on Jul 28, 2007 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions

while hes at it...

lets cook up a deal for Kobe...

How does a sign and trade with Zarko Cabarkapa straight up sound to you?

That shits exciting

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 28, 2007 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions

The point was

I wouldn't be thrilled with acquiring Jermaine O'Neal, no matter how little we had to give up for him. I thought I made that pretty clear. JO's a non-franchise player making franchise-player money. You aren't going to sniff a championship with him as your cornerstone. As I said, if we're not going to make a serious run at a title, I'd just as soon stick with what we have. As it stands we're not realistically going to compete for a title -- despite blue-and-gold's enthusiasm -- but we should still be hecka fun to watch develop.

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 28, 2007 4:05 AM PDT up reply actions

Injury problem

Agreed. Jermaine's really not the world class player he's paid to be. An upgrade over what we've got at the 4, but not at the price he'd command.

One thing that I don't see emphasized about O'neal is his injury history. We worried about Baron last year and though it seems like summer makes us forget that he's unlikely to be available for 35+ minutes for 82 games, he's unlikely to be available for 35+ minutes for 82 games. Over the last three seasons, O'neal has missed one game fewer than Baron, and that includes his ineffective injured play at the end of last season. He's played less than 20 more minutes than Baron, and we know Baron's availability is a huge concern. What's the odds that a big man entering his 30s with an injury history all of a sudden being able to show up for work 82 times next year?

by jae on Jul 28, 2007 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions

ok

my bad I didnt read it. Your right, 20 mil for O'Neal isnt something id be thrilled to take on either, even if it was for Foyle and a 1st round.

However, he does only have 2 years left...not too bad.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 28, 2007 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions

i agree

that with all this kg talk JO seems like a let down, but if we could steal him, why not. i don't know how you can say you wouldn't want to add JO to last years team. we got to the second round and JO is an all star that could give us a shot.

by Proof on Jul 29, 2007 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions

First off...i don't think they'd ever do that

and risk getting fleeced twice by the warriors in a one year span.

And second, I really don't think that JO would work for Nellieball. I remember Rick Carlisle mentioning in an interview that they don't run because they stop their entire offense for O'Neal. They wait for him to set up position and then they run the halfcourt game. JO wouldn't even get to halfcourt before Monta or Baron ran it full court and took it to the rim.

by sadleavy on Jul 28, 2007 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions

i know with all this

KG excitement, JOneal would be some what of a let down, but if we could steal him, i would be thrilled.

by Proof on Jul 28, 2007 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions

i was thinking this yesterday

i was talking to my cousin, about how when that report about Brandan Wright came up.. about him not playing in the summer league because he was included in a deal that could not be announced until august 6th. And then after that report, the KG rumors, talks, reports suddenly quited. i look on prosportsdaily and there hasn't been an article about the warriors trying to get KG in a while.

Bill Curley led the league in hook shot percentage the year he played for us.

by BDistheBoss on Jul 27, 2007 1:28 PM PDT reply actions

Maybe cause

KG said he doesn't want out? All it takes is McHale to say he's not available anymore because he's sick of dealing with the issue. Everyone wants him, but no one wants to break the bank for him. I'm sure every GM has called McHale offering someone, and he responds with not enough. If neither side budges then there's going to be a stalemate with no more conversations about it. I would love for the idea that the trade is waiting on Wright, but realistically I believe that McHale is waiting for an offer he can't resist.

by Mdawg851 on Jul 27, 2007 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions

You know if we could manage to steal AK

or a big man who could start for us (that Nellie would actually PLAY) for cheap. Then I'm all for substituting Monta or Wright with Biedrins. McHale would certainly have to think twice about acquiring two bluechip talents like Biedrins and Wright/Monta.

by sadleavy on Jul 28, 2007 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions

no joke

How bout this lineup?

PG-Dizzle
2G-Boykins
SF-A.I.
PF-Devin Harris
C-Monta

The all-nelly-quickness sqaud

by SeasonTixSuckaz on Jul 27, 2007 5:04 PM PDT reply actions

OMG the GAME isn't signed

Did u read the liner notes to his CD? He dropped like 25 and 7 on boomdizzle in his LA HS dayz. If we could sign him on the cheap and develop him he could be a steal...or a major chip in the KG sweepstakes.

No Lie!

by SeasonTixSuckaz on Jul 27, 2007 5:05 PM PDT reply actions

Sooo...

Since the dopes smacked you down by deleting your last diary, you figure you might as well just post a bunch of crap and see what happens? Sounds like a plan. It'd be a better plan if the stuff you posted were actually funny.

By the way, re your deleted diary: you need to get your Wizard of Oz straight. The Scarecrow was missing a brain, the Tin Woodman was missing a heart, and the Cowardly Lion was missing nerve. What you and Mickael Pietrus may or may not be missing will remain an exercise for the reader...

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 27, 2007 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions

not uh

you talkin bout the game the rapper right? in one of his songs he says that he weant to college and that basketball was his dream. didn't really believe he was that good tho.

by Proof on Jul 28, 2007 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions

Utah....

I dont want to see any of them Bratz in Cali.... I'm glad Derik got out while he could....

Warriors Shrine....

by rezo43 on Jul 27, 2007 8:15 PM PDT reply actions

Wow

First off let me say this. Jermaine O'Neil will not be a Warrior. Not because Bird doesnt want to get fleeced but because why would Bird trade a playoff team for a horrible non-playoff team? I mean he just takes all the crappy Warriors? What a team, murphy, dunleavy, ike, foyle, POB, whoever we send. They dont want Harrington or Jackson obviously. It just makes no sense. I think he has enough Warriors.

As far as AK goes, his name hasnt come up. I dont understand why because personally I think he would EXCEL with Nellie. And it seems Utah wants him out. I would love for him to be a backup plan to KG. And maybe even a hair more than Garnett if it means not giving up Wright and Ellis. But Garnett will THRIVE in this syste as well. Imagine Garnett BETTER than he is? WOW.

Lastly, something is definitely in the air. I think we all find out after Aug 6th. Then we are flexible again. I still firmly believe its for Garnett. With Baily, Pierce, etc as roster fillers for us after we dump so many players for KG.

It is an exciting time. I think Gooden is intriguing but is a way backup plan. I feel Mullin is exploring before making his decision. He knows Beidrins may be that piece to actually land Garnett. So how does he make it easier? Gooden may be that guy. Varejo in my mind would be better. But thats all debatable.

Go DUBS.

by Grandma on Jul 28, 2007 8:52 AM PDT reply actions

Nellie would absolutely LOVE

AK47--as would I, and for the past 4-5 months I've been pushing for it. I've wondered why there was no talk about making a deal for him. The only reason I could think of was that 1) J-Rich is exactly what Utah needs to make them a championship level team, 2) Kirilenko is exactly what the Warriors need, 3) the salaries work out, 4) the Dubs and Jazz both play in the West, and would undoubtedly face each other again in the playoffs, and somebody would inevitably be going home. Neither team, I feel, wanted to be THE reason the other team got over the hump. That's the only reason I can think of--the deal made TOO much sense for both teams.

Now that J-Rich is gone, I can only dream--though we DO still have that trade exception from Charlotte. If AK is STILL being shopped we would be STUPID not to consider it. He is a BEAST in the low post, rebounding and blocking shots, he can push the ball up the floor (Utah was using him as a "point forward" for long stretches of the playoffs), and, at one point in his career, he had a decent outside shot. He would absolutely flourish in Nellie's system.

But I think all the parties involved both know that, which is why a deal will probably never happen. Unless, that is, AK can discharge a firearm outside of a strip club/set up an interstate dog-fighting ring, etc. I think Utah would like to move him, but not so much that they would make one of their West rivals a contender in the process...

by WhatWouldTerryCummingsDo on Jul 29, 2007 2:29 AM PDT reply actions

i really hope that AK does something kinda stupid

in his personal life. not stupid enough that it would hurt himself or others but just stupid enough for a conservative state to want him out of there ASAP.

by sadleavy on Jul 29, 2007 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks for the thoughts on JO

I just hadn't heard his name mentioned. With an injury history, that's a bad thing, but at the same time, I remember he plays pretty well inside.

How much of an inside presence is KG? I'm asking because I've seen 2 quarters of him play in his whole career. At that time he was a mid range rebounder extrordinaire, not a banger inside, and a jump shooter like J Rich. And he was 7' tall.

It sure seems now like the deal is for KG and it involves Biedrins. With Kosta hanging around summer league and rumored to be signed for next year as back up center...someone's going away at that position. I doubt it's Foyle.

by Gain on 10 on Jul 29, 2007 7:56 AM PDT reply actions

Sleepy Freud is Gaysian

and everyone knows it:

http://forums.warriorsworld.net/main/msgs/1616720.phtml

by SeasonTixSuckaz on Jul 30, 2007 12:48 PM PDT reply actions

I have no idea what that means

Or what that link has to do with it, but I think it can be loosely translated as: "Sleepy Freud is a big poopyhead for calling out my pointless diary. Wahhhhh!!!! Mommy!!!!!!"

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 30, 2007 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Since you no speeky engrish

Let me translate for you. It means you are just a b*tch ass punk and I will catch you on San Leandro Blvd and dump you in the dirty moat around the coliseum.

Clear enuf now, biatch?

by SeasonTixSuckaz on Jul 30, 2007 5:12 PM PDT reply actions