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#32 Cursed for the Warriors?

Today I was checking out NBA.com and they have this rookie photo shoot where all the rookies with their team jerseys.  I was shocked to see that Wright chose #32. I don't know what Wright wore in college, but I am a bit wary of a lanky ACC power forward, first round pick who just has to "bulk up" coming to the warriors and choosing #32.  Just wanted to say it here first, BWright is going to be a HUGE BUST.  What do you guys think of Wrights prospects as an NBA plyer?

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32?
Sorry, but I think I missed something!  Could you elaborate as to why the #32 is cursed?  Thanks!
"GO BIG or GO HOME!!!"

by scottiepimppen on Jul 30, 2007 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

32
is cursed because Joe Smith. Wright was touted by A LOT of people as the 3rd best prospect in this draft. Also if Durant and Oden weren't in this class, they said he could have easily gone number 1. I don't think he'll be a bust, I actually think he's going to be KG 2.0. I'll be the first to say it, BWright is going to be an absolute stud.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Jul 30, 2007 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Joe Smith
I believe he's referring to Joe Smith, who came from Maryland (ACC?) and wore #32.

You're not the first person to express doubts about Brandon Wright, but basing your opinion on such vague similarities on a pick from a decade ago doesn't seem convincing.

Perhaps you could bring up some basketball reasons instead of superstition?

We've talked about Wright alot:

  • He will already be able to block shots on length and leaping ability alone.
  • He's got a ridiculously good touch around the basket, ambidextrious around the rim.
  • Rebounding will get better once conditioning and body development get better, but he can help on the offensive glass already
  • He's quick and mobile enough to be a finisher
  • Besides conditioning, foul trouble will probably limit his minutes early on
  • what else you got?

Questions? Complaints?

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by OptionZero on Jul 30, 2007 4:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ignoring the numerology
I think he's referencing Joe Smith, a player who isn't really anything like Wright.  

If the plan is to get Wright to "bulk up" it's a bad plan.  I cannot think of a player who became successful as a result of "bulking up" who wasn't a pretty reasonable player before "bulking up".  I suspect there may be one or two, but it's a pretty lousy plan if that's the plan. Certainly guys fill out as they get older, but overall, big guys start out as pretty big, lean guys stay pretty lean.

Wright will increase his strength as he ages, but his forte is speed and coordination.  If the plan is to have him try to muscle people in the paint, the plan isn't going to work now, probably not ever.  If the plan is for him to get shots off close in before defenses can react, to get rebounds by being quicker to the ball, then the plan has a chance to succeed.  

For what it's worth, it wasn't a lack of bulk that hurt Smith.  It was that he decided he was a jump shooting perimeter player.  His rookie season was his best.  He could rebound and score better than the average PF.  He was strong enough to be effective.  But he not only never got better by 'bulking up', he regressed, largely because he drifted to the wing and thought that scoring on jumpers would make him a better player.  It didn't. He just missed more shots and grabbed fewer rebounds.    

Smith showed the 3 point shot in college.  Wright has no perimeter game at all.  In this context, this is a good sign as there's less of a chance that Wright will decide that he's gonna live with the long range shot.

Wright's success is by no means certain, but the comparison to Smith misses target.

by jae on Jul 30, 2007 4:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont think people mean...
having Wright add on 20 pounds of muscle and then just go out there and take it to other C's night in and night out...

I think it would be extremely helpful for him to put on 8-10 lbs. by the beginning of next season.
This obviously wont transform into some kind of menacing strong man, dunking through teams while people do chin-ups on his arms...

However, some added strength and weight would allow him to hold some kind of position without being muscled out of the paint by the other team's PG haha... I mean 6-10 210 is stupid skinny. That should never happen.

I agree, he should stay lean throughout his career, he'll probably never weigh more than 235... But I think what people mean by "bulking up" is just to gain a little strength that will be needed to play defense and box out. The NBA game is just too physical for big men to be that light...He'll just get worn down, and by the end of the season he'll be so fatigued, he'll hit the rookie wall like humpty dumpty.

Getting moved around will just frustrate the kid proning him to early fouls...
I see where people are coming from. That said, I think he's going to be an awesome player, and I cant wait for him to prove himself worthy to all the haters out there...

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 31, 2007 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One
more thing, KG has a wirey frame similar to BWright, would you want KG to bulk up? I think not. Just because you don't look like the Hulk doesn't mean you aren't strong. He's still a young kid, he just needs a couple years to let his body fill out.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Jul 30, 2007 4:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

true true
you cant compare super stars to college kids.
i got an elevator in my house...... thats f'ing ridiculous

by stevenro59 on Jul 30, 2007 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm
not comparing KG and BWright talent wise, I'm saying they have similar type bodies.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Jul 30, 2007 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

who has more talent?
kg right? if brandon wright has as much talent as kg then he doesnt need to bulk up, but right now i would say he does need to get bigger, because most of us havent seen him play yet, and we dont know what his capabilitys are.
i got an elevator in my house...... thats f'ing ridiculous

by stevenro59 on Jul 30, 2007 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

CLARIFICATION
Thanks for clarifying that you guys!  I kinda knew he was referring to JOE, but he should have made the connection instead of make others wonder...who is #32 and why is it cursed?  Just like you said OZ, state some basketball reason!
"GO BIG or GO HOME!!!"

by scottiepimppen on Jul 30, 2007 4:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yea
I don't understand your unwarranted comment on Brandan Wright.  I personally don't watch too much college ball, but he didn't play summer league, he had a good freshman year at UNC, and he's 6'10".  Thats good enough for me now.  When he either proves or doesn't prove himself in the regular season then I'll make judgement.  Actually even then, think about Biedrins how he sucked it up until just this past season.  I'll give him 2-3 seasons to prove himself, if not then he'll be marked POB.

by david240z on Jul 30, 2007 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

smith was a bust so #32 is cursed?
whatever. i personally like the no. and hope it hangs from Oracle's rafters with Wright's name on it one day just like Magic's in LA

Wright'll be a Chris Gatling or Tyrone Hill at worst or maybe the next low-hyped Duncan-ish impact player that other teams envy and say we were so "lucky to land" years and years from now - who knows?

by Anomaly on Jul 30, 2007 5:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Reason
Sorry about the vagueness of #32.  I do not even think about it when someone says  32 of the warriors, to this day, i will say Joe Smith.  

At this point there is not too much FACT about Wright.  All we've seen is him play against ACC competition.  Now hes going to have to go against men.

I did not watch too much ACC basketball last year.  I usually stick to the Pac-10.  So from what I saw last year from Wright is this ugly word that is so loosely thrown around, Potential.  I think Wright has Potential.  Also seeing a picture on NBA.com (sorry I couldnt get a specific picture link) just gave me a flash back to Joe Smith and now I can't shake it. Now Smith was a much more polished player coming out of college (I think he left after his junior year) but to me, judging from their physical attributes the players seem EXTREMELY similar.  Both long and lanky.  Now Bulking up is not Barry Bonds of '96 to '01.  But if you compare KG of now, to KG entering the NBA, he definitely BULKED UP.  I just remember when SMith entered the league everyone said the one thing this guy needs to do is bulk up.  Everything I read about Wright is that he needs to bulk up as well.  I know a lot of college players do need to bulk up, but these coincidences have proven too much for me to see if anyone else feels the same.

I feel that the #1 reason NBA players fail is being unable to grasp the mental game.  Joe smith was not able to mentally want to be physical and play inside.  IMO thats why he failed.  Brandon Wright (fromw hat I saw) did not have any game inside, it seemed to be mostly finishing dunks.  So i think there is a lot for him to improve on.  

So if you guys dont think Joe Smith.  Who do you compare him to?  I dont think KG is a good one.  NBAdraft.net compared him to Bosh which I think could be pretty close, altho i feel that Bosh was a better athlete coming out of Ga Tech.

by Dubs4Life on Jul 30, 2007 5:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yo
Check out this diary I wrote a while ago; in the comments are also some good takes on the kid.

You mention that he played in the ACC as if it were nothing. That's one of the toughest conferences man with established programs.

Wright is not Garnett, not even Chris Bosh. Picture a leaner, more athletic Antawn Jamison when he was a Warrior (Before he turned into a jumpshooter) on offense and a Kirilenko-like rangy weakside shotblocker/disruptor on defense.

Questions? Complaints?

(AIM: JetForze; email: Jon.d.ma@gmail.com)

by OptionZero on Jul 30, 2007 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

antawn???
Man, i hope not. He played hard (on offense) and was a great team guy, but it was hard watching that guy play ball. as effective as his "creative" game was, I just hope Wright looks better on the court doing what he's doing.

by dj fuzzylogic on Jul 30, 2007 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

half-antawn
I'm just thinking about Antawn on the offensive end. Jamison never did do anything defensively, which is where Wright can really do damage.

There's a lot of weakside shotblocking and steals to be had with those long arms and quick feet- Jamison could never claim that much potential on the otherside of the ball.

As an aside/off-topic, jamison has a lot of parallels to Richardson. Talented but flawed, not quite good enough to be a franchise player, monster contract, played hard, tagged as "face/heart/soul/etc of the team", dealt for cap space (and eventually, Baron Davis).

Questions? Complaints?

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by OptionZero on Jul 30, 2007 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing I see compared to Antawn...
Is the quickness off the ground. Like Biedrins, Wright has the ability to jump and reach a certain point before other players do, much like Marion, or Jamison(his quick little turn-around flip shots and put-backs)...

Add the jumping quickness with a 7-5 wingspan, soft hands, a good left, and rare mobility... than you got yourself a damn good ballplayer, and in our case, a 19 y.o. one...

But the fact of the matter is that we know he can play defense, and we know that when he catches the ball within 8 feet, he does not miss.

How could you not be high on a Brandan Wright? Sure there are busts, and then there are stars... alot of people throw around the word potential, but PF's in his mold dont come around often enough. Even though Garnett is not coming here, I still make the trade for J-Rich in the blink of an eye. And Jason Richardson is my favorite player.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 31, 2007 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see the Bosh comparison a lot (even i used it)
but admittedly i haven't seen Bosh play enough to draw any real comparisons...it's one thing for me to read his stats but another to have seen it in action a lot.  has anyone seen him play enough to "explain" his game to me?

by sadleavy on Jul 30, 2007 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wright
Like Biedrins, he gets his buckets off plays created by others. He moves w/o the ball, cutting off the pick and roll or off weakside action, catches it in the paint, goes up and gets his shot off quickly and from all angles. Being ridiculously long helps as well.

Because he's got footspeed and reach, he's a great finisher in transition.

Defensively, he's shown shot-blocking ability. In Nelson's system, his mobility and length will get him a ton of steals (eventually).

Like someone else said, Biedrins is a good analogy on offense. On defense, we'll have to see, but I'm hoping for an AK like force.

Questions? Complaints?

(AIM: JetForze; email: Jon.d.ma@gmail.com)

by OptionZero on Jul 30, 2007 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dubs4life
could be a huge bust man, i agree.  He doesn't seem to have any game to speak of right now, and the dude is extremely thin.  Its gonna be three years if anything.

the joe smith comparison is decent, it got overanalyzed tho(cough)

by jrizzle on Jul 30, 2007 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you wrote
that Wright "did not have any game inside, it seemed to be mostly finishing dunks"  Finishing dunks sounds like a pretty good inside game to me.  I'll take that.
Still living in '94.

by texanwarrior on Jul 30, 2007 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bw
me going to georgia tech, forces me to follow acc basketball very closely. (damn you unlv!!). Brandon wright doesn't have an outside shot. actually, he reminds me more of andris then anybody else in the league. tall, lanky, fast, and good defender who shoots a high percentage. Also he's left handed. But i'll say one thing about bdub. if he's focused. he is ridiculous. This guy has to be the fastest 6'10" person in the world man. I remember one game he blocked a shot and out ran tywon lawson. (who is the fastest pg in the acc) for a pass and a dunk. Another nice thing about wright is that he is so quick he can spin around the defender, roll to the hoop and punch down an alleyoop. I've seen him do this countless times against tech and other acc schools.

So yea, he's not really like chris bosh, who had a solid offensive game coming out of college. And he's definitely not Joe smith. he's more like andris, but a little shorter and probably even faster.

by t1andonlywall on Jul 30, 2007 5:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

so...
maybe a skinny young K-Mart?

by Anomaly on Jul 30, 2007 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup
That's a spot-on analogy.

Questions? Complaints?

(AIM: JetForze; email: Jon.d.ma@gmail.com)

by OptionZero on Jul 30, 2007 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no shit
man, i'll take that...

by sadleavy on Jul 30, 2007 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

naw....
K-Mart seems alot nastier and aggressive to me. I like the comparisons of Biedrins/Bosh/Kirilenko... I think he has a little bit of the three of them.

I never thought K-Mart though, from the little bit Ive seen of him.

His speed though is rediculous... He'll be the trailer on the fast break play for a lot of 2 hand throwdowns...

I think by the end of the season, he and Baron will have earned a spot on the top 10 plays of the year. No look alley-oop pass off the glass to the trailing Wright! ELEVATION SENSATION!(lame)...I love ya Tim, but goddamn you gotta describe the dunks dude...I need more.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 31, 2007 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is better bulk up
If Weight don't bulk up, he going to eat up in the league. And I was against the trade that cost us J-rich and a 2nd round pick. He better do something, or he better start praying he won't be the most hated Warriors on the team.

Joe Smith wasn't that bad, if he had hitted the weight room, he be putting 20-10 on normal days. His second yr was his best season. 18.7 and 8 rebounds are good number by a PF.

Wright isnt Joe Smith so there is no need of comparing both of them.

by warriorfan4life on Jul 30, 2007 6:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

AK47 better bulk up too if he is gonna be able to
play in the nba, chris bosh too, kg, and AB.... All those guys better bulk up or they will never be good.
THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE W'S

by dallaswarrior on Jul 30, 2007 7:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wright
has a ton of potential, because of his speed, length, cordination and shot blocking ability.  If he has any kind of motor, he's likely too talented to not make it in the league, one way or another.

But how effective he will be during the rest of the Don Nelson era, is a big question mark.  First, like a lot of 19-year olds entering the league, he is unskilled offensively.  So he'll have to get his buckets on althletic plays, and in Nellie's system, he might get some.  Second, he is terribly skinny, which means he is going to have all sorts of problems on defense and posting up on the box on offense.  Again, he'll probably only score on fastbreaks, weakside baskets and alley oops.  Defensively, despite his shot blocking potential, he will be burned so much that Nelson will have to find some creative way to play him.

All in all, I doubt he'll play much his first season.  He'll have to bulk up some to get decent on defense, so that he can stay in there long enough to block shots and ignite the fast break.  He has nothing beyond a short jump shot, so he'll have to develop an offensive game.

But the real proablem he'll have with the Warriors, is that he is a poor rebounder for a prospect.  The Warriors have enough bad rebounders as it is, so with his other faults, he'll really be struggling for playing time his first couple of years.

On another team he would start out at SF, but on the Warriors he might play center, who knows?  I don't see him having much of an early impact and I still half expect him to be traded.  But if he has any personal drive, I would guess that he will eventually find his niche in the NBA.

by San Francisco Slim on Jul 30, 2007 7:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bring in Kirilenko...
and have him feed the ball to Wright and Biedrins...what an excellent passing forward. Unleash Biedrins, Wright, and AK...turn em loose against the opposing starting five and watch all of them average 2.5 blocks a game.

Meanwhile, on the south side of town, Baron and company can cheat all day and rack up the steals with that kind of protection backing them up. Oh my GOD our defense would be regoddamdiculously quick. Im not joking.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 31, 2007 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bulking up
it wouldnt mess him up to bulk up a bit. it helped dwight howard. dwight was always strong but hes a lot stronger now than his rookie season

by StephenO4 on Jul 30, 2007 8:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bulking up
The point is there are enough guys in the nba that have wirey frames that are still good players. He doesnt have to be that big. Sure 10-15 pounds would help but who cares AK47 is a great defender, shawn marion, AB, KG, Bosh all really skinny guys. He might not have to be that big to be good and in our system being skinny is a good thing. I think that all this talk about him putting on pounds isnt THAT big of a deal.
THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE W'S

by dallaswarrior on Jul 30, 2007 8:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

#32 is not cursed
Tyrone Hill was a solid #11 pick and #8 is a lot more comparable to #11 than to #1 too. I would say maybe 3 of the 10 that went before him are better. Here's the 1990 draft:

http://nbadraft.net/1990.htm (lots of former Warriors in the 2nd round)

Joe Smith may have been the worst pick of the top 7 in his class: http://nbadraft.net/1995.htm

That doesn't make the #32 jinxed at all. It just makes Joe Smith a very bad draft pick. A Twardzik bad (safe) draft pick.

Was Wright worth J-Rich? Probably not on skill alone, but factor in the cap relief, duplication of skill and the need for an athletic big man that can rebound and it comes out fairly even on paper.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 30, 2007 10:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Safe pick?
There's a tendency to deride picking Smith as a 'safe' pick, but at the time, it looked like a very good pick.  Smith came out as a Nat'l player of the year, a guy who could score, rebound, block shots, run the court.  I don't think too many people thought at the time that they played it safe.  There wasn't an overwhelming consensus #1 that year, no Shaq, no Duncan.  But they took a guy that many argued was the best player in the class.  Garnett?  He wasn't seriously considered by anyone at the time.  People were stunned that a high school player went #5 (how times have changed!).  I remember the other player who was heavily considered was Stackhouse with a small, small minority favoring McDyess, though he was considered risky because most of his value seemed to come from one good NCAA tourney but a college career that wasn't spectacular.  Wallace was considered a similar talent, but with more attitude problems (half of this was true).

The pick didn't work out, but let's not rewrite history.  Smith was regarded as the best player in the draft by a number of people.  I suspect that most teams would have made the same pick given what was known at the time.

by jae on Jul 31, 2007 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not arguing he was bad pick at the time
He was a very bad pick in retrospect.He was the safe pick at the time. Doing the safe ting wasthe Twardzik staple. Joe Smith was considered a "known quantity", the "finsished product". McDyess was considered the pick with the most "upside". Who knew Smith's game would actually start regressing? You can't judge really a draft until several years later. So while it wasn't a bad pick at the time, it turned out to be a bad pick relative to the top seven in the class (Big Country is debatable). Twardzik, being Twardzik, could not have made any other pick but the safe one.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 31, 2007 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

safe?
Perhaps you can clarify as to what you mean by "safe" pick. I'm not really sure that McDyess was considered to have more 'upside.'  If so, it wasn't a universal consensus that this was the case.  I don't think any GM seriously considered McDyess as a #1 overall at the time.  Twardzik was terrible here, but you're criticizing him for a move more or less every GM would have made.

Joe Smith was highly regarded.  There wasn't a consensus sure thing franchise leader in that draft, but Smith was as close as anyone saw.   Taking a known entity who is also considered by many to have the best future isn't safe, it's smart.  That it didn't work out is a reason to ask if there's something that could have been known at the time, but it doesn't change what happened.

by jae on Aug 1, 2007 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Safe doesn't necessarily = bad.
The year of the draft, Joe Smith was the safe pick.

In 2007, with hindsight as an evaluation tool, he can be considered a bad pick. Like I said, you can't truly evaluate a draft until years later.

I remember McDyess being considered the pick with the most upside but it's hard to find articles from that long ago on the internet. It would be cool to find some 1995 mock drafts but this is the only thing I could find that even analyzes that draft:

http://nbadraft.net/1995retrospective.asp

McDyess was a very raw bigman but his upside was so tremendous, he was seen as the best player available at the second pick. After being drafted he was immediately traded to the Denver Nuggets where he had an impressive season. McDyess showed why he was drafted so high with his rebounding, scoring, and shot blocking.

Doesn't prove my point, but a fun read. . .

by bloodsweatndonuts on Aug 1, 2007 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the sake of clarity
This sentence:
A Twardzik bad (safe) draft pick.

was poorly written. It would have made more sense as: :Twardzik made the safe choice, which was his M.O., and that usually came back to bite him in the ass.

 

by bloodsweatndonuts on Aug 1, 2007 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Weight issue...
According to Yahoo Sports,

BW is listed at 205 lbs (probably around 200 more),

Other skinny guys.
KG is listed at 220lbs
Bosh is at 230lbs
AK47 is at 225

For contrast
Boozer is listed at 258lbs (daym!)

So this leads me to believe that even though BW is going to be a "athletic" speed type player, he's still going to need to put on at least 20
to weight as much as other the "athletic" big men in the league if the weight issue is any indication of success (very loose indicator outside of talent/skill and other factors I might add)

He is still growing into his body, and he has the frame to add some weight without losing mobility, so hit the weights Rookie!

by q00pster on Jul 30, 2007 11:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At the pre-draft combine
Wright checked in at 200 lb.  He measured 6'9", 6'10" with shoes (most NBA players are listed at the latter height). That's too skinny in the NBA even for a guard.  

His wingspan was 7'4", the same as Oden's and an inch less than Durant (who's the same height).  But a red flag was that he was able to do TWO bench presses compared to 13 for Mike Conley (a point guard), 17 for Jeff Green (a small forward) and 20 for Al Horford.  I bet Kevin Garnett can easily do 20, probably 30.

If you watch tapes of Wright, he doesn't have a great motor nor a nose for the ball.  His rebounding stats are very poor for a highly touted big man.  He doesn't go after the ball and he's very weak.  He's a project, despite all of his athleticism.

The thing is, POB is a very soft player.  You can't be soft and make it as a big man in this league.  But Wright doesn't have the skills to play a smaller postion, at this point.

by San Francisco Slim on Jul 31, 2007 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think
Brandan Wright could do well for us in the next few years. He has good speed, good height and nice touch around the hoop. Although we might not see the best of him this year, he has the talent to start for us regularly in years to come. And it doesn't matter about his weight; having good speed and a good wingspan at that position isn't very common so why sacrifice that for a few extra pounds?

by zaki on Jul 31, 2007 2:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think its more about...
gaining stability and postioning.

Rather than being strong and overpowering.

This is my team There are many like it But this one is mine. My team, without me is useless. Without my team, I am useless

by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 31, 2007 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't matter
Its not like we run an offense anyways.  Don Nelson isn't going to slow it down, dump it to Wright, have him kick out and repost, yada-yada-yada.  He will run the floor, run the pick and roll with Baron, get to the hoop, get garbage points.  On defense we will still be able to run our helter-skelter switching style with him at the 4 because he is quick enough to guard the 3's and even 2's.  Its just better because instead of having someone 6'6" playing the 4, its a super long 6'10" guy.  He is a perfect nellie player.  Plus he loves to start the break himself and has good dribbling skills.  Watching video of him from high school, where he was the man and allowed to do his thing more, I can see why Nellie liked him.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OAn3GqWyI4M

by yehyeh82 on Jul 31, 2007 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure
if Nellie DOES like him. He hasn't given a very confident assessment of Wright thus far.  I'm not really sure how much Mullin likes him, at least in terms of making an immediate impact.

by San Francisco Slim on Jul 31, 2007 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so....
grabbing an offensive rebound and then kicking it back out to half court, doesnt require us to set up an offense, or run the ball to someone down low?

And what happens when we inbound the ball without Baron on the court? Run, run, run isnt as simple as it sounds. Try to think more about the game in its entirety, rather than just seeing a bunch of highlight scenario's in your mind...

I'll let you in on this, the reason why you never saw us dump the ball down low last year under Nelson, is because we had virtually no one to give the ball to. If we coulda, we woulda.

I am actually for giving Biedrins about 8 or 10 more touches a game, and would encourage him to match his quickness and skills against some other slower C's.
That said, Wright, like Biedrins, has shown the ability to make anything within 8 ft. He's shown some extremely quick spin moves and rolls off defenders like butter. He really has the chance to be dominate offensive player, as well as a dominate low post defender/shotblocker.

Its kind of narrow-minded to say that 10 more pounds of strength would mean nothing at all...
If it didnt mean anything to Nelson, then why would he be asking Harrington to get lighter?
Or why would he pride himself so much in putting Baron up against a PF in the post, using his strength?

The fact is, it does matter. Its a long season, and these are men. A 6-10 205 pound 19 yr. old kid will get mirked by stronger guys. Since Nelson is the coach, does that entitle Wright to some magical power where no one can touch him, or lay into him? After 20 games, he'll feel like he just went 10 rounds with Sonny Liston.

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