Free Agent News
So what's going on in the world of free agency and how does it affect the Warriors?
Darko Milicic
The signing of Rashard Lewis to that ridiculous contract has made Darko expendable by the Magic as they've pulled their initial qualifying offer off the table. Apparently he's on Don Nelson's list of big men to pursue this year. I've never really been impressed with him and I think people are still caught up on his potential. If the Warriors were to sign him, he'll only be blocking the development of Brandan Wright (if he's still on the team) and we'll certainly have to overpay for an average big man. I think he'll play better in Nellie's system than in Orlando, but depending on his contract, I don't think it's worth the risk especially if it's 4-5 year deal.
If the Kevin Garnett talks stall again, or if Mullin and Nelson conjure ideas of a KG/Darko front line, Milicic could be a big Warriors factor.
Matt Barnes and Mickael Pietrus
Both players are being pursued by the Miami Heat. Dallas is also reportedly in the mix for Barnes. I would like to keep both around at the right price starting with Barnes and then Pietrus for a little cheaper. We'll probably only be able to keep one at most. Losing both will kill our depth, but I have confidence that Mullin can find someone to fill in.
Kevin Garnett
Guess who's entered (again) into the KG sweepstakes? Mark Cuban and the Dallas Mavericks are after the superstar.
KG could really swing the balance of power in the Western Conference. He's rumored to be going to the Mavs, Suns, Lakers, or Warriors. If either of these teams pick him up, they'll instantly become legit contenders to knock San Antonio from their throne.
Kosta Perovic
In non-free agent news, the Warriors are about to bring Kosta Coast over to the NBA.
"It was his full objective to get to Golden State," said Duffy, who wouldn't go into specifics but described Pervoic's contract as being "pretty creative" and "well north of a conventional second-round contract."
"Some of those individuals have publicly said to their people, 'We don't care about you, or your needs'," Kapicic said.
"It is a shameful attitude to our nation. "We are in a situation that, almost, players could easily say, 'Well... if I don't go with my girlfriend to the movie, I think I'll be available for the national team'. That's a huge impact on our state, on our sport, on single thing that was holy for us all these years ."
I find the girlfriend analogy funny and also confusing, not sure how it applies here. Anyways, I can understand the anger the Kapicic has towards the players leaving the national team. Outside of the USA, when your best players are not playing for your country, it's going to hit you hard. It's not clear why Kosta can't play in the NBA and on the national team, but it's clear he's looking out for #1, himself first.
Luxury Tax?
Are the Warriors really willing to exceed the salary cap and pay the luxury tax that goes along with it? According to President Robert Rowell, the team is willing to exceed the cap.
This brings up all kinds of possibilities. I'll have to see it to believe it, but if the Warriors are willing to exceed the cap, then signing GWallace, Biedrins, and Monta could be a possibility. Hmmm...
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Deleted the Darko diary
by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 5, 2007 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 5, 2007 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was mistaken
by Tony Stark on Jul 5, 2007 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
by Tony Stark on Jul 5, 2007 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alas
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 5, 2007 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
by Tony Stark on Jul 5, 2007 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
For the one millionth time- when you hijack content from another place without posting a link you're stealing another site's traffic and not giving them their due. That's unfair. It's also stealing their content instead of quoting it.
Again and this goes for everybody- if you don't like the rules, there's plenty of other places for you to go to online. Have fun.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 5, 2007 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoh there
by Tony Stark on Jul 5, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah!
And hopefully 49GIANTwarriors

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com
by coma on Jul 5, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deleted because
We're trying to consolidate diaries. If you want your diary to stay up there, please write more than 3-5 sentences on the topic.
Continue to be proactive, just know that if you only write a few sentences and your link gets duplicated on the main section, there's a chance you'll get deleted. Don't take it so personal, it's in response to multiple requests to keep the diary section cleaned up.
by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 5, 2007 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No no
PS. Atma, my paranoid banter about my account deletion was actually more of a request than a worry. But it's all good, I'm hoping this conversation ends here. And I get it now with why the link is more important than just stating where it came from, site traffic, etc. Just didn't appreciate the tone. Ok NOW I'm done..haha
by Tony Stark on Jul 5, 2007 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my
You whine about your diary being deleted and take a shot at us saying things would've different with your diary if was about Yi and then accuse me of looking for a confrontation? Haha, you've got to be kidding me.
I'm not trying to be confrontational and never was my intention, but I can't tell you how sick we all are of seeing pointless diaries and people not following the extremely simple rules. It's like a broken record that people still don't seem to listen to.
I understand you don't appreciate the tone (which I think you're reading into too much and being too sensitive), but hey- after a million tries if this gets results, that's what's going to happen.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 5, 2007 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Argh! I WAS KIDDING!
The same goes for the Yi comment. I don't think it's any secret that there has been a ton of Yi posts on this website over the past month or so and I was trying to make fun of the situation. I don't know what else to say.
by Tony Stark on Jul 5, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Getting So Tired...
Either get used to people giving you sh.. for it or change you attitude Atma.
by faithndraft on Jul 5, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 5, 2007 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please
We're cracking down on the diaries and disrespectful comments. If you see it as rude or an "inflated sense of importance" then you're completely misunderstanding the reasoning (and frustration) behind it. There's absolutely no need to take shots at anyone, especially Atma.
by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 5, 2007 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not about the rules...
by faithndraft on Jul 5, 2007 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit
Accountability is expected, but I can't say I agree with your stance that it's being done disrespectfully.
And as a parting shot- scanning over your diary and comments on this site the majority of them are either complaints or shots at other people. It would be nice to see you focusing that energy on actually talking about hoops here. Practice what you preach brotha!
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 5, 2007 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atma
You have a very hard job keeping this place from falling apart and turning into what most blogs/forums turn into (ughh). I have to say that one of the things that kept me coming back early on was seeing your friendly "Mr. nice guy" comments calmly and politely yet authoritatively reminding everyone that this is a "family show" and such. I remember clearly taking notice of your tone and found it incredibly refreshing and effective. Just remember that most of the time negativity breeds negativity and positivity breeds positivity.
I'm sure there are some repeat offenders that require a firmer hand, but on the whole, even if it doesn't work, the "Mr. Nice Guy" approach does keep the community feeling like a fun safe place to come and talk hoops. And those of us who do come here to talk hoops do learn to identify and ignore the idiots until they get bored and go away.
Anyway I just want to say that I really appreciate all the hard work and great writing you and the other guys put into this blog. I have thoroughly enjoyed sharing the past few months with all the Ws fans here. I hope I wasn't out of line sharing my thoughts on the matter, I just thought I would toss my perspective your way. Take it for what it's worth. (not much, haha)
by olympicmike on Jul 6, 2007 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the thoughts
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 6, 2007 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
by olympicmike on Jul 6, 2007 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My $.02
As far as I can tell, the GsoM boys are cracking down not on stupid posts and diaries per se but against the miffed reactions said posts and diaries have been provoking (in yours truly, among many others).
And honestly, while I totally respect your opinion on the matter, I have nothing but disrespect for the opinion of a particular poster in this thread who's made a total of seven comments on this site, out of which five were hypocritical anti-GSoM rants, one was an off-the-wall Marxist screed, and a grand total of one had anything to with basketball or the Warriors. (I say this as a guy who thinks most of Marx's ideas were pretty cool).
I mean, you'd think people would at least have the courtesy to take off their coat, wipe their shoes, and say hello before trying to rearrange the furniture and fry up bacon in the kitchen...
As for Tony Stark: ah well, he gets a bit more of a pass from me, for, you know, taking that shrapnel to the heart, and having to walk around in that iron suit...

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 6, 2007 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clarification
I agree with you and I hope that I didn't come across as believing that Atma's new tactics were the cause. I just tend to think that setting a positive example and keeping a friendly attitude goes a long way in making it not fun for jerks to hang around very long. Of course if I was in Atma's shoes I would probably tire quickly of seeing the same guys abuse the blog and disregard the rules of conduct. All in all I think that the boys do a great job and I can support this "no more Mr nice guy" strategy even if it's not my prefered way of handling things.
by olympicmike on Jul 6, 2007 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey
by Aluminum Foyle on Jul 5, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listen up (Read up?)
Just don't do it again and don't take shots at people while admitting you screwed up. It's classless. End of story.
by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 5, 2007 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the love of all things holy...
Then take Barnes: he's the exact opposite. He's a player without a ton of skills, but he's cold-blooded, he's clutch, and he plays with passion. What he doesn't have in potential and height (Darko's only upsides), he makes up in actually playing like he wants to win. That's invaluable in my opinion.
For the record: Pietrus is spotty. Think they should let him go if he's going to cost us anything substantial.
by Tenorca on Jul 5, 2007 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Darko...
by Aluminum Foyle on Jul 5, 2007 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Donnie Darko, please
by Phil T28 on Jul 5, 2007 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I havent seen Darko play
THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE W'S
by dallaswarrior on Jul 5, 2007 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The skinny on Darko
by Tenorca on Jul 5, 2007 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FA newz
Loss of Barnes/Pietrus - are partially offset by the drafting of Belinelli and will be replaced by more of the same (Barnes was a cheap pickup, some have mentioned Udoka as an option - Nelson has a knack there). Barnes is worth keeping but only at a decent cost
KG - absolutely swings the balance in the west - and you are plucking a chord that others have missed about GSW picking up KG - is there any chance of GS advancing any further in the playoffs during the BD/Nelson era if LA, Phx, or Dallas were to snag him? Hopefully Cuban is just playing possum and trying to drive the price up for the locals, but it does reinforce the dynamic impact KG will have next season whether or not he's here...
... and GHill - although not in your post, it's also worth pointing out that players like Hill sign for less in exchange for a shot at a ring (he's reportedly agreed to a biennial exemption of a mere 1.8m, http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6994610) another potential effect of landing KG
by hardcore on Jul 5, 2007 1:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Darko?
by mcwalter44 on Jul 5, 2007 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Darko is a big guy who can
If they did bring in Darko and with this Kosta signing I have to think Foyle will be cut and POB might be traded
by Zig on Jul 5, 2007 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kosta singing is odd
Having three deadweight and/or young centers (Kosta, POB and Foyle) plus a rookie PF in Wright and then thinking about bringing in Darko must be part of a larger strategy
Otherwise the roster is greatly lacking depth at the 3
Signing Kosta might mean POB is gone or Foyle will be cut
by Zig on Jul 5, 2007 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kosta singing
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 5, 2007 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monta rapping
by Zig on Jul 5, 2007 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring Darko
by steezelle on Jul 5, 2007 3:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and now for the negatives...
His stats look decent, sure, but have you watched the dude play. He looks like I do when I come into work, and, trust me, I get a lot less money to do something a lot less enjoyable. What I'm saying is the W's got rid of Murphy and have no passionless slouches on the team anymore. You get Darko, you get one of those and a guy like that can derail chemistry and ruin your chances for years.
Say no to this bum.
by Tenorca on Jul 5, 2007 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darko v. Murphy
Blocks per 40 minutes, career
Darko 3.2
Murphy 0.6
A factor of 5. That should tell you all you need to know about the main differences between their games.
Also: Darko just turned 22 last month, and has never really gotten regular PT. I'd give him at least a couple of years before writing him off. If he starts to show consistently what he's he's so far shown in flashes, he could be the bargain of the century. I'd say he's clearlly worth a gamble, at the MLE or even a bit more.
Basically, the Magic are fools. I'd take Darko over Rashard Lewis, at the same price. 5 years/$80M for a soft, no-D jumpshooter? To quote Jim Barnett: my word!
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 5, 2007 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darko won't help us
by DubsGonDoIt on Jul 5, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
news
He's a perfect fit for Nellie and complement to Biedrins. For anyone that wonders what the hype is and why he's still in demand despite lack of numbers, watch this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Y7WtlRjVM
Forget the dunks...you can even forget about the blocks. Watch him move:
-When he shows on screens, he's able to cut off smaller guards. Even when other forwards try to take him off the dribble, he does a pretty good job moving his feet and staying on front
-Toward the end of the clip, you see him make some really, really nice feeds, so the high post passing ability that Nellie demands is gonna be there.
-Now bring the blocks back into the picture, and look at how he uses his length and quickness to get into position. His block rate is higher than that of Biedrins.
-His range extends to the top of the key
That's a pretty alluring package for a big man in his early 20's with legit 7 foot size.
He's asking for $9-10M which is too much, and he won't settle for the MLE if he doesn't have to. We are one of only a few teams that can split the difference and offer him something like $7-8M (if it came down to that).
2. Barnes and Pietrus.
Why would anyone want Pietrus back? He sucks.
Barnes I'd like back, but it's not looking good. Today, the bulls offered Andres Nocioni 5 years, $38M, an average of over $7M/year. Nocioni is a more proven performer than Barnes, but last year the two were pretty comparable. If it takes something like 5 years, $30-35M to keep him, then I don't want him back. You can't pay bench players that much money if you want to be financially responsibile at all, and you can't let the thought of "keeping the team together" cloud your judgment. Barnes is not worth that kind of money- his value to us was the versatility at a minimal cost. When you give him that sort of contract, you have to get back more, and given that Barnes had a career year from 3 pt range, you can't really count on him to repeat or maintain that over his contract
3. Perovic.
Makes no sense to bring him over
4. Luxury tax.
Bullshit. I want copies of the receipts if Cohan wants us to buy this.
5. Garnett.
The best time to take advantage of the market is the very start (beating people to the punch) or the very end (when everyone's spent their wad). I hope the Garnett chase is actually progressing, or else we're obsessing over this at the cost of other moves. Flexibility can be lack of direction real easily, Mullin better have clear priorities and deadlines laid out.
by OptionZero on Jul 5, 2007 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agree with the Barens stuff
I like your Darko analysis too. He would be a steal at 6-8 million and I like that he is big enough to guard big centers and even bang on guys like Carlos Boozer (something AB, POB and Wright will never be able to do)
With the Perovic signing POB must be on his way out. With a Darko signing I can't imagine Foyle will be hanging around either. There are only so many roster spots and with Wright and the 2nd round pick this year along with POB, Foyle, AB, Kosta you are already using up half of them without even adding Darko to the mix. A very un-Nellie like logjam of big guys
by Zig on Jul 5, 2007 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
although
I believe we went into the season with Murphy, Foyle, Biedrins, POB, and Diogu (and Dunleavy was for a while thought to be playing some power forward for us, laughably enough).
More than a few Warrior fans pointed out that this was a real ugly logjam that was going to be uglier with Nelson's preference for skill over size.
There were also rumors we were after Chris Wilcox and Melvin Ely (and hHarrington), both of whom are really power fowards only. Of course, it makes a little more sense now that we wanted another rebounding, athletic, big man, but at the time, it was stupidity.
What do I take from this? Don Nelson and Chris Mullin don't particularly care about log jams: they will get the players they think fit better and will produce more, the leftover guys be damned. Later in the season, they'll sort out the mess somehow later on because they aren't afraid to make deals.
I like this attitude; go out and get your guys, make the team better, MAKE the roster fit. Round hole? Meet square peg and giant Nellie-sized hammer. Awesome.
So what we might have at play here is Nelson sees something he likes in Kosta and Darko, Mullin's gonna get these guys on the team. The two of them will find a way to ditch Foyle (buyout?) and POB (Trade?) sometime before the next trade deadline, even if it means those guys sit on the bench. If you can move Dunleavy/Murphy, you can move POB easily enough. Foyle's probably gonna hit us bad either way (bench or buyout), unless you want to flip Ellis to move Foyle and pickup an expiring contract + lottery pick
by OptionZero on Jul 5, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
I'd really like to see Darko on the Warriors, but I don't think he should get paid anything more than the MLE until he proves something in the NBA. Unfortunately, there will be someone out there willing to do it.
by jlagace on Jul 5, 2007 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im betting mavs are targeting
by GSwarrior on Jul 5, 2007 4:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dallas Mavericks
by Phil T28 on Jul 5, 2007 4:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stackhouse
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46933/20070705/stackhouse_sticking_with_mavs/
If that's true, they are pretty much done moving around pieces, Terry and Damp are too expensive, they overvalue Devin Harris, Howard is their second best player, and Diop is worth more to them than another team.
$7M for Stackhouse is just excessive...he shoots in the low 40's, doesn't do much else except get to the line alot.
by OptionZero on Jul 5, 2007 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
poss to pair KG & Dirk
can't believe McHale wouldn't get a better offer than that
by hardcore on Jul 6, 2007 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KG Likely Destinations (in my opinion)
by Phil T28 on Jul 5, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GSW Not the Best Option
The Warriors have a problem. They now have a slew of rookies that will take some time to develop. Don Nelson does not work well with rookies. He will only coach this year if the Warriors can challenge in the playoffs. If he has to go with rookies he may retire. If he retires, what happens to the system?
by jarforcefathwerofforce on Jul 5, 2007 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who has more to offer?
Even with Amare and Jeff in the mix, I'm not sure the Ws can't put together the best package, if they really go balls-out. In terms of youth, talent, and $$$, there may be no package out as appealing to MIN as Biedrins/Wright/Monta/Harrington/Cabbages, plus the ability to absorb a couple of their crap contracts. I think personally that's too much -- I'd ask to hold out one of Wright or AB, or for them to include Ricky Davis as one of their crap contracts, or to switch out Foyle for Harrington. But after the Wright deal, we certainly have the means to get something to done. Whether we have the will is another matter.
Honestly, if we could get Darko for cheap, I'd consider breaking that last barrier and including AB, Wright, and Monta. I'd want them to take Foyle -- not the most ridiculous request since he's only a year removed from being the expiring contract they crave. I'd actually think we could make ourselves a much more desirable destination for Darko by offering him the starting C role. At his age/development stage, that, more than anything else, could be the determining factor in where he lands.
Baron
Jax
Harrington (or Artest, if we can swing it)
KG
Darko
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+ whatever bench we can cobble together: R. Davis (?), Hudson (?), Bellini, Buki, Lasme, Perovic, Udoka (?)
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 5, 2007 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you beat my post by 5 seconds
by OaktownWarrior on Jul 5, 2007 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we sign darko, we might lose biedrins
as for all the back and forth at the start of the post, my recommendation is: less dialogue; more moderators (i.e., the OG GSOM team) who simply delete off-the-wall stuff. having 10 posts with a couple newbies mouthing off at the top of this page is a pain.
by OaktownWarrior on Jul 5, 2007 7:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
On the crybabies ... noobs or not, the whining up there is just pathetic, isn't it? "Waahhhhhhhh!!!!! If you call us out, do it respectfully!!!! Mommeeeeeee!!!" Honestly, not to suck up to hosts, but I really have no idea how Atma and FJ can make their requests any more respectfully than they do. As someone who occasionally indulges in snarkiness/flaming on this board, I'm constantly amazed at their forbearance.
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 5, 2007 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deleting
Haha, man people would go nuts if we deleted their posts just because they were silly! That would result in 100 ridiculous "you're a Nazi" or "this is America" type posts.
Thank god for the old timers like you and the rest of the long time GSoMers though man. Thank god.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 5, 2007 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can opt out after this year
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 5, 2007 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but who could sign him?
by Psion on Jul 5, 2007 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's a good question
I could foresee a couple of possibilities
- Over the course of the season, interested teams could start jettisoning decent players to clear space for him.
- He could take a big pay cut to play where he wanted.
- He could threaten to take a big pay cut to play where he wanted, thereby forcing MIN to accept a sign/trade for pennies on the dollar. From what I've gleaned on this site, sign/trades very rarely bring back close to equal value for the original team.
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 5, 2007 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to which someone will ask:
Anyway, if we wait, we lose momentum, and maybe Nelson along the way & decide what to do as Baron is closer to asking for a biiiig extension. KG will either be a sign and trade or a virtual FA depending upon how you look at it, and our chances to land him then become even less than they are now - this is our best shot.
by hardcore on Jul 5, 2007 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garnett's options and the cap
But it's not the only leverage. Charlotte has the possibility of offering him about what he's making (provided they don't break the bank for Wallace) in a year's time and so will Atlanta and Orlando if they don't do anything stupid in the mean time. Orlando would look to be his best option at that point as they could have the cap room if they maneuvered properly with Howard, didn't offer him the early extension, computed the salary with the qualifying offer, got Garnett and then re-inked Howard. That seems to be the best team situation, though Richardson and Okafur in Charlotte could seem enticing if any of the younger guys start to not suck and if he's still got roots in South Carolina, Charlotte may seem close to home, which makes people overlook places that suck at times.
So there are a couple of ways that Minn could get nothing for him, and they probably fear that and fear makes people do stupid things.
Instead of watching him walk, they could offer sign-and-trade possibilities to him and his agent for an even better destination, but sign-and-trades don't bring back much in most cases. Part of this is because a player (or more to the point, his hopefully savvy agent) won't agree to a sign-and-trade that does give up much because it means he is going to be playing for a team that was just gutted in order to get his client. Some teams can afford to give up a valuable player (e.g. Odom) and some salary match (e.g. Kwame Brown) where LA would come out ahead in talent, still retain enough to make sense for them and Minn would get enough back at low enough risk that they'd perhaps be better off than having nothing, but more often, subtracting Garnett's salary in players off of a team means they've lost a substantial amount of talent and start looking like Minn without Garnett all of a sudden.
Because of this, it means picks and scraps for the deal to make sense for Garnett and the team he's going to and to make sense for Minn in not taking back a burden worse than letting him walk. The scraps to get Garnett at his price are big scraps and thus he's again in the position where he may have to take less still. Minn has little incentive to take people's problem contracts unless they're getting something very good in return (like picks for the next millennium and/or a rookie scale all-star or 17) just to get something for Garnett. They're better with the cap room. Sign-and-trade doesn't seem like it's worthwhile for them because of his enormous salary. Minn will want picks, but they'll have to take salary too. Does anyone have 22 million in expiring contracts that they can move? Taking things back is an issue. If they can't get young talent plus expiring contracts this year, they're better off holding him and just taking the cap room.
I give a deal this off season no better than 50-50. I've heard the "they have to move him now after all this talk" but what if they don't? They lose him in a year for the cap room. McHale hasn't really been a good GM since getting lucky with Garnett more than a decade ago, so perhaps he'll do something rash and stupid. But if he's got half a brain, he'll see that making a bad deal to get something before you can get nothing at all is usually worse than nothing at all.
by jae on Jul 6, 2007 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to clarify...
Kobe to LA, KG to MN. How incredibly boring.
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 6, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kosta Perovic
It's just like the issues with Yao Ming, Wang Zhi Zhi and eventually Yi Jianlian.
The Chinese government wanted Yao and Co. to return and play in the Asian basketball championships that usually occur around late September and early October. That was a cause of tension with Wang Zhi-Zhi when he chose not to return to practice with the chinese national team back in 2002.
This isn't too unusual. Many countries worry about losing their "best players".
by coach41 on Jul 5, 2007 11:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Many countries
by Phil T28 on Jul 6, 2007 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
QUESTION
by BlueNgoldBlood on Jul 7, 2007 4:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kosta
by Palmerman on Jul 8, 2007 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kosta
by Palmerman on Jul 8, 2007 7:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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