Report: Warriors signing Austin Croshere?
The 6-foot-10 Croshere averaged 3.7 points and 3.0 rebounds in 11.9 minutes for Dallas last season after spending his first nine years in Indiana. He would give the Warriors some depth with the fate of their own free agents, Matt Barnes and Mickael Pietrus, still to be decided.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2007/08/02/SP8KRBF5C1.DTL
Not really sure what to think about this. He does have range but other than that I personally think that the Warriors can do better and should get a backup point guard (Earl Boykins?). Also, Croshere should go for cheap so this might be a move to not spend much and hopefully get Barnes or Pietrus.
Thoughts?
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Perovik Signed Wednesday /Croshere - today
"The Warriors will get no such break on their deal with the 7-2, 240-pound Perovic, who was selected 38th overall two summers ago and signed off Wednesday on his deal."
"Duffy said the contract "shows a commitment to (Perovic)." It's believed Perovic will receive approximately $5 million over three years, although $1 million of that will go toward Perovic's buyout from his European club, Partizan Belgrade. The total buyout was $1.5 million; the Warriors, per league regulations, are allowed to pick up only $500,000 of that tab."
Chroshere
"Ten-year veteran forward Austin Croshere was expected to sign with Golden State on Thursday afternoon, a team source said. And the Warriors have inked 2006 draft pick Kosta Perovic to a multiyear deal, according to Perovic's agent, Bill Duffy."
btw..
by jayknocc14 on Aug 2, 2007 5:45 AM PDT reply actions
Well
by yehyeh82 on Aug 2, 2007 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah he did knock out
croshere = murphleavy?
Holy hell
Hats off I guess to Janny Hu to for being able to write a lead like this
Without even a trace of irony or bitterness.
So who does the stiff take minutes from? Is there anyone on this site who would be happy seeing Austin freaking Croshere even for five minutes over Wright, Powell, or Lasme?
Now excuse me for a minute while I ponder becoming a Celtics fan...
Hu did "clown" austin a little ....
"Warriors make initial run in free agent market at Dallas scrub Croshere."
this dude is a scrub. i've never seen him run like the warriors like to.
yuck!!!
" Sleepy Floyd is Superman!!!"
Maybe
Even if he pays us to play here
Whose minutes do you want him taking, Barnes's, MP2's, Wright's, Powell's, or Lasme's?
Playoff experience? We're probably 50/50 to make the playoffs in the first place, and that number goes down 5-10% if we're actuallly considering making "Cro" part of our 8-10 man rotation. Dude's like a homeless man's Troy Murphy. He doesn't play a lick of defense, and his game appeared to be in absolute freefall last season.
Positive locker room presence? Respectable guy in the league? Whatever. Do you know him personally, or did you just copy that drivel from the approved list of "annoying clichés to be applied to crappy white players"?
4 of the 5
by yehyeh82 on Aug 2, 2007 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup
He's probably
And those aren't annoying cliches because those 2 qualities are very important to a team. If you have no chemistry the team won't play like a team and you know what Austin had some good times in his NBA career, so his "nba experience" could maybe influence BWright and Powell, etc.
Just because he isn't a big name player, or a high flyer doesn't mean he isn't good. I know he may not be the best player that we could sign, but he isnt the worst. He always gives it his all on a nightly basis, and what's not to like? Just because you probably like high flyers, big name players, and guys who can run doesn't mean he is a bad player for the team.
Pay attention, Einstein
I don't want Austin Croshere anywhere near my team, ahead of Powell, Lasme, or really anybody. He'd also likely preclude the signing of Varejao, Gooden, or any of the other half-decent big men we've been discussing here.
Seriously, dude, is there anyone in the NBA you don't want to see on the Warriors? You do know we only get to play 8-10 guys a night, right?
Hey
I know we won't get every player in the league, and I don't want every player in the league. I'll admit Croshere is probably not going to solve any of the W's problems, but its not gonna worsen the W's problems, if he comes cheap.
And Sleepy, you are the einstein. You're the one who gets all the numbers and stuff! Good Job!
Aw shucks
The point is just to remember that playing time is a zero-sum game, which means acquiring or giving minutes minute to someone is, in effect, taking them away from someone else.
I guess I could live with Croshere as an 10th-11th man/designated techical FT shooter, but even then, I'd rather reserve those spots loveable types like Foyle and Cabbages. Even POB is miles more lovable than Austin Croshere.
by Sleepy Freud on Aug 2, 2007 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
NO ONE CAN REPLACE SARUNAS'
by sadleavy on Aug 2, 2007 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
by "positive locker room presence" he...
...which, thank you for the segue, is further evidence of my theory about the terribly inflated nature of Baron's relationship with Cash Warren, and in turn the likelyhood yet more Warriors face time for Miss Alba. hmmm, Baron seems to despise his ex-Crossroads teammate Austin Croshere (an NBA talent), but is extremely chummy with ex-Crossroads teammate Cash Warren (2nd boy grip on teenie bopper movies). what's the variable? anyone? anyone?
by 321 IN n OUT on Aug 2, 2007 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
i agree
by Proof on Aug 2, 2007 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
NO!! Austin Croshere doesn't fit here!!!
Positive locker room presence? We already have our stiff on the bench for that (Adonnal Foyle).
Well, every single rumor that we've heard has been bogus - let's hope this is another.
Does anyone know if he and Mullin are buddies from Indiana?? It's my only explanation...
by UweBlab on Aug 2, 2007 8:08 AM PDT reply actions
Wow
Perhaps
If this is true, I would like to see Cuban's reaction if the Don can squeeze more from Cros than the Mavs did last season. After all he has an average 3-point range (34.3%)for a big man and a decent FT (86.2%). The Don did it to Barnes last season isn't?
by muritqua on Aug 2, 2007 8:53 AM PDT reply actions
YES AUSTIN CROSHERE IS MY DREAM PLAYER!!!!!
Shoots himself
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Aug 2, 2007 9:00 AM PDT reply actions
On another note...
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Aug 2, 2007 9:02 AM PDT reply actions
Nothing like
by Caught Backcourt on Aug 2, 2007 9:19 AM PDT reply actions
Oh god no
by thehawk on Aug 2, 2007 9:29 AM PDT reply actions
hell nah
i want barnes.
the crowning achievement of ira newble's illustrious career
Austin Croshere
A shooter
None of this
Furthermore, this is the type of move to round out the roster. The Warriors, presumably still have a few major moves to make. They have to shore up the PF postion with a REAL player; acquire a wing players to replace Richardson; figure out if they will re-sign either Pietrus or Barnes or a suitable replacement; acuire a back-up PG.
Where exactly does signing Austin "danger is my middle name because I'm about to have a heart attack" Croshere fit into all of this? I'd rather they have spent that money on Eddie House, like Sleepy's new favorite team did. And tell me to God that they are not spending more than House money ($1.8 million) on this death trap.
by San Francisco Slim on Aug 2, 2007 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yuk
can you sign someone, package them with some deadweight (PoB) and ship their arshes right out? i hope so...
by Anomaly on Aug 2, 2007 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
He is terrible...
THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE W'S
HUH
some players
also, a lot of forwards that play as a reserve for dallas have their stats suffer. jamsion van horn walker right off the top of my head.
i don't think he's as bad as he looked in dallas, neither do i think he's as good as that short spurt of excellence in the playoffs some five years ago. if we can sign him for like an Azu-like deal, i think he'd do ok.
and i dono wut you guys are talking about him taking up a roster spot. as of now, our 4 is still one huge question mark.
this is all don(n) nelson
This doesn't have really anything to do with a FA signing, other than the fact that dallas was crosheres last team.
so whats your point jrizzle?
Austin croshere is a weak soft slow loser of a player thats best attribute is shooting. If he can rebound and hit an open three i guess that would be acceptable. D is atrocious.
If this deal is over 2 million its absurd
The Dude
At least he can shoot.
Tony aka Drawlz600 is AWESOME!!!!
WTF!!!!!!
But, what if....
So, WHAT IF he was doing this just to screw with the fans. Let us think for a day or two that Croshere is plan B to KG, let us blow up the blog sites, tear our hair out and prepare a lynch gang in Mullin's neighborhood. Then, he will hit us with the real move, something that is significantly bigger and better (not saying much, I realize). What if he is just that savvy? I like it better than the alternative, which is him being that dumb.
At least Dave Roberts

Croshere left his only real skill (shooting) in Indiana, and has a big stupid face that only a mother could love:

One can only hope Mulson are reading this thread...
by Sleepy Freud on Aug 2, 2007 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
For a guy who left his skill
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/DAL20070130.html
One of the reasons Mullin was hot for Harrington is because he played with him in Indy, I can't help but think his experiences with Croshere are influencing this decision (if this is really happening).
by sfhand on Aug 2, 2007 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure
Blind squirrel, nut, etc...
Hey, I respect you more
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/gamecenter/recap/NBA_20070130_SEA@DAL
The fact is you basically said he left his offensive skills in Indy and this game demonstrates otherwise.
And... without his 34 Dallas loses the game. Give credit where it is due.
by sfhand on Aug 2, 2007 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at it this way
by San Francisco Slim on Aug 2, 2007 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just trying
You're right that I'm not endorsing the move or Croshere as a player. I don't know enough about basketball in general or the NBA specifically to think I'm a better judge than Mullin, Nelson, or whomever. I decided to just relax and enjoy the off season and wait until the games start to evaluate the off season moves.
by sfhand on Aug 2, 2007 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude...
by UweBlab on Aug 2, 2007 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you really trying to tell me
by sfhand on Aug 2, 2007 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You are thinking of the # 15....
At least he'll be in good position to cherry pick...
by UweBlab on Aug 2, 2007 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
SFhand, dude
Granted, "garbage-time" was an unnecessary rhetorical flourish; I take that part back.
Bottom line: shooting 35% over the course of an 81-game season carries a lot more weight than a single 34-point game. Absent a compelling explanation for the season-long slump (injury, etc.) I'm going to assume the most likely one: at age 31, his game, which was never particularly stellar, has entered a period of decline.
I could go a step further by compiling a list for you of all the absolute scrubs who have had 30-point games in tthe NBA, but I don't really see the point. I'm fairly sure you understand the importance of considering sample size. I'm not even really sure what your argument is, except just to trip me up on a point of semantics. If so, you definitely got me on the" garbage-time" part. Well done.
I'm sure we can agree
by sfhand on Aug 2, 2007 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
i know
The Worst Turn in FA History
Die, Sabean. Die.
Questions? Complaints?
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by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Aug 2, 2007 11:33 AM PDT reply actions
vlad glad
i remember sabean's interview with barbiari afterward saying "we just can't afford to pay 16+mil for a player".
i hope sabean wakes up one morning and realizes he's incompetent, joins another team and pulls a kevin mchale.
I remember that interview too...
All were gone by the next season. Thanks Sabes. I wish I sucked at my job and got raises and extensions for it...
by UweBlab on Aug 2, 2007 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean: worst ever
You're trying to provoke OZ, aren't you? ;-)
In fairness, fans of both the Red Sox and Yankees, neither of whom often get accused of being cheap, also complain a lot about failing to land Guerrero. At the time, there were semi-serious concerns about Vlad's back.
On the other hand, Vlad clearly would have taken a friendly discount to play with Alou, and a dominant RH bat has probably been the Gs' single most gaping need since the departure of Kent.
Sigh ... at least there's #756 to look forward to, right?...
he can still redeem himself
by dso on Aug 2, 2007 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
sleepy
...you're not pudding, are you?
Questions? Complaints?
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by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Aug 2, 2007 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a lurker back then
Good God
The good thing is Nellie has no problem benching players who reek. Silver lining!
by Tenorca on Aug 2, 2007 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
never........
by dubhyphy on Aug 2, 2007 1:15 PM PDT reply actions
croshure really isnt that bad
once again it comes all down to the money. 1.2 for two years and i'm sold. anything above the veterans minimum and the warriors are wasting mone.
that would be a baaaaaad
what a waste!
is this a final admission that POB was a complete bust as a W's draft pick? If so, *&%&@! If not, then this signing does not make a wit of sense - if minutes are going to anyone, they should go towards developing the young 7 footer on the roster, not to a no defense playing too weak too slow below average past his prime player like croshere.
by mykungfu on Aug 2, 2007 6:12 PM PDT reply actions
Damn!!
"OHH, MAAAANN!" - Mike Tirico, NBA Playoffs '07
by KillaKrossOvr on Aug 2, 2007 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
by mykungfu on Aug 3, 2007 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
in the mavs series
by ripjrich on Aug 2, 2007 9:23 PM PDT reply actions
WHAT IN HOLY-HELL IS REALLY GOIN' ON?!?
i don't get this at all!
if i'm understanding correct (it is 2:53am) did we just tell Lasme to piss off so we can sign Lostin Croshere!?!
i'm feeling sick to my stomach...
by Anomaly on Aug 2, 2007 11:54 PM PDT reply actions
Pietrus
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by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Aug 3, 2007 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions

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