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Football, Cheating, and the Moral Fiber of Society

Cheaters never prosper.  

According to ESPN's NFL Live, Sean Salisbury and Mike Golic, they do.  In the wake of another cheating scandal in professional sports, Salisbury and Golic defended the reigning super bowl champs, the New England Patriots [EDIT=i really meant the Indy Colts..haha], strategies of video taping their opposing team's plays as the game was going on, calling it "competitive advantage."  Apparently, there is a very thin line between "competitive advantage" and "cheating" in professional sports and that line is called football.  

Both Salisbury and Golic contend that we shouldn't care so much about this because "cheating happens in football" (so, cheating happens in other sports, but isn't it criticized harshly--i.e. baseball?)  As the professional football ethos goes, "if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" ... so they say.  They further add that its not cheating because the offense still "has to run its plays" and "the QB still needs to make the accurate throw" because "the defense is still there."  I'm not expert at football but if the Madden video games series is any indication, strategy is equally significant to the game as mechanics.  How else do you plan to maneuver around oppositions offensive and defensive schemes to find the gaps to exploit?  Why else do coaches cover their mouths on the sidelines as their calling plays? Isn't the QB's ability to make "the accurate throw" dependent upon their ability to make the right reads and wouldn't knowing that ahead of time significantly help their decision making and their accuracy?  

I'm not here to argue whether cheating is endemic to the game of football (and if it is, then you wonder why it it can't be in other sports), but rather to point out some that what ESPN sports analysts say, a lot of times, makes absolutely no sense.  Apparently for Salisbury and Golic, "stealing signs" is not like "steroids, drug abuse, drunk driving, or dog fighting" because "it's about the game."  Wait a minute, wasn't Tom Donaghy fired for doing something that tampered with "the game?"  To uphold football and in my opinion, the Patriots as a dynasty, Salisbury and Golic don't necessarily make any real arguments besides making it a moral issue.   In avoiding the issue of "cheating" they both instead highlight questionable individual and not to mention PERSONAL choices to argue that what the Patriot did wasn't "as bad."  Instead of evaluating the cheating on its own terms and its effects on the outcome of the game, instead, they judge what the Patriots did on a different scale altogether, that is morality.  Whereas baseball and basketball are supposedly places to uphold the values of "fair play," then football, in their opinion, is "just a game" in comparison to extra-sporting issues considered bigger problems for the sport than parity.  

I'm not condoning the behavior of players like Pac-man or others who have allegedly taken steroids.  Nor do I think that football is some sort autonomous place untouched by real life.  Instead, I'm pretty disgusted, though not surprised, by the blatant biases of these sports analysts who think that too much attention is being paid to things that are "in the game" while simultaneously saying that what happened doesn't matter at all because it is "in the game."  Isn't that a contradiction?  Further, in their opinion, "they should just be fined and we should move on."  Why didn't they same the same thing for Michael Vick, in the sense that why did they give so much air time to something that has nothing to do with the game?  I'm not questioning Salisbury and Golic's ability to analyze the game of football.  In fact, I'm usually convinced by their analysis (except when they say Alex Smith is a rising star).  Also, they seemed cool with the fact about the punishment, too, so its not as if they believe that the Patriots were necessarily innocent.  But as a wanna-be cultural critic, I am challenging the contradictory gestures they make in their attempt at validating "cheating."  I guess it just reflects the underlying tension of how to judge sports and the extra-sports affairs.  What is the significance of a player's private life (is there?) and to what extent does it actually have an affect on the game?  The problem here is that Salisbury and Golic seem to excuse cheating on the basis that its not drunk driving or dog fighting, which to me is a cop out.  I guess what I'm also trying to say is that it doesn't make sense if they're going to judge cheating based on "morals" and to say that "cheating" is okay because its "its contained within the game" and not affecting real life. But isn't "cheating" always, already a "moral" issue to begin with whether it's a sports related or not?  

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O RLY?
"...defended the reigning super bowl champs, the New England Patriots."

What NFL have you been watching buddy? Hope that Bay green is treating you well...

by maxpower on Sep 15, 2007 4:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lmao.
haha. You know what he meant.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma on Sep 15, 2007 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...
...and as a fan of Peyton Manning, he has offended my rocket arm.

by maxpower on Sep 15, 2007 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooops
apologies for the error.  i actually don't like Indy very much so i blocked them outta my memory.

by dj fuzzylogic on Sep 15, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

It's pretty absurd that anyone could defend the Patriots actions. The fine was a big amount of money and they could potentially lose a first round draft pick, but is that enough? I don't think so. Coach Belichek deserves to be suspended for those actions.

It just seems like the Patriots keep getting ridiculous breaks like this...


I got a trivia question for you...who can stop number 5?

by R Dizzle on Sep 15, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Let me guess
You're a Raiders' fan and Patriot hater?

A first round pick is pretty harsh punishment in this league. Much harsher than a head coach suspension, imo.

The Pat did something a little sneaky, got caught, and got punished. Not that big of a deal. I suspect the calls for more punishment are nothing more than lingering resentment from the "tuck" game, and jealousy at the Pats' fabulous subsequent run of fantastic football.

Back in the '70s, I didn't see the Raiders getting much punishment for being one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Jack Tatum paralyzed Pats' WR Daryl Stingley for life, and later bragged about it. What comes around goes around.

And before you accuse me of being a Raider hater, I can tell you that I loved that Raiders' team. The 9-year old Sleepy did jigs around his house when they beat the Vikings in the SB.

by Sleepy Freud on Sep 15, 2007 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.
It'd be a bigger deal to me if they didn't have two first round picks next year.

http://westcoastbiased.blogspot.com

by coma on Sep 15, 2007 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look

I can't deny the greatness of which the Patriots are - they are the team to beat in the NFL TALENT WISE.

It seems pretty silly that they need to resort to this as they can win without it.

You're right, a first round draft pick is harsh, but the Partiot's have another (SF's) which will most likely be higher than their own draft pick.    

I can't argue that a half a mil isn't a lot of money, but do you think that fine is really going to prevent him from trying to do this kind of stuff again?


I got a trivia question for you...who can stop number 5?

by R Dizzle on Sep 15, 2007 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it does seem like a pretty
weak punishment for cheating and stealing signals allowing them to know what the other team is doing.

by Proof on Sep 16, 2007 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The funny thing about sports
is how everybody talks about absolute parrity in the league being the best thing for sports... in theory.  I mean, it would be great if every team had an equal shot at the title at the beginning of the year.  We'd all want that.  But the reality of it all is that DYNASTIES make the leagues go round. When there is no clear cut favorite, like the NFL betw the Cowboys and the Pats dynasties, the league just wasn't the same.

Every league needs a model franchise to chase.  The NBA has the Spurs.  The NFL has the Pats.  The league has its ways of prolonging a dynasty by being light handed to these paradigms.  If I'm not mistaken, the league was like that to the 9ers in their hayday.  Its the hypocracy of sport.

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by Tim N Chris Burger on Sep 15, 2007 5:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

totally agree
i guess i just think its just awkward when these two announcers (and only these two) make an exception for football.  i think its hard to determine if it was really "cheating" but i think that they just vacillated between saying it was cheating then saying it wasn't, which made their analysis of the situation pretty shady.  but yea, i'm def. not surprised that it happened, but more turned off their justification of what happened.

by dj fuzzylogic on Sep 15, 2007 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

was it really cheating?
i find it hard to call what the pats did cheating if it is something that can be seen than it not really looking at stuff. its not like they went wire tapping, and went all government.
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Sep 15, 2007 7:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

uh
they were tappin into their radio frequency and listening to plays..so if that isn't cheating then i don't know what is.

by djchuckdeez on Sep 17, 2007 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow
i didnt know that part! yeah that is cheating than. thats almost as worst as the government
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Sep 17, 2007 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares?
Spying on the Jets? Might as well spy on the Raiders, too, because it's not going to do you any good.
Tony.psd = Da Man

by Zorgon on Sep 15, 2007 8:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

whatever
well if it was so easy for them to win,then why did they have to spy on the first place?  Don't ever compare the jets to the raiders, at least the jets made it to the playoffs last year.

 

by djchuckdeez on Sep 16, 2007 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice article
I don't think the Pats got a big enough penalty. We don't know how long this has been going on and this wasn't the first time they did this. Additionally, it wasn't limited to just a single individual, it was probably the entire coaching staff and management and potentially the entire team. They were caught cheating and to lose some money and a 1st rounder simply isn't enough. The money is a lot, but for an organization and coach who have made tons of money, it's not that big of a hit.

There should be an investigation of how deep it went. Which players, coaches and management knew about the cheating and used it to their advantage? How long had it been going on? Which games? It's a serious offense because it affects the integrity of the game.

Here's my commish-wanna-be punishment: Belichek should be suspended for an entire year and the Pats lose 5 first round draft picks (just like the Twolves for the Joe Smith fiasco).

by Fantasy Junkie on Sep 16, 2007 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jealous homer ;-P
I'm sure you'd be singing the exact same tune if it were the Niners or Raiders doing the spying.

Also, the Pats' inability to cheat sure hindered them against the "Superbowl" contending Bolts. My theory is that Belichick told Brady and co. to beat the Bolts by the exact score of 38-14 to prove that the "cheating" from the previous week hadn't helped them one iota.

Anyway, for all you Patriot-haters, here's a cute updated Patriot logo I found on another board...

Roll on you cheaters!!!

by Sleepy Freud on Sep 17, 2007 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...
I like the Patriots and Brady and hate the Raiders (especially their fans). I love the Niners though. If it was the Raiders, I'd say make Al Davis sell the team, move them to Idaho, and take away the next 10 first rounders because it's not like they make good use of the high picks anyways.

So winning 38-14 against San Diego means nothing, in terms of what the punishment should be. Even if the cheating ultimately made no difference in the outcome of the game, they still deliberately broke the rules.

by Fantasy Junkie on Sep 17, 2007 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'oh!
Ah well, I can't use my "glass houses" argument with you (e.g.. the Raiders have plenty of skeletons in their closet), since the Niners have always been so classy. I mean that sincerely, even though I never liked them. There was TO and his antics, and the usual financial shenanigans at the top, but on the field they have usually played the game the right way, and drafted guys to match. Plus with Bill Walsh passing, they should get at least a year's exempion from any criticism. I'd even be happy about their 2-0 record if (a) I didn't feel like they were hella lucky to win both; and (b) the Patriots didn't own their first-round pick.

Anyway, Brady's a Bay Area boy (San Mateo, right?) so when the 49ers luck evens out and they end up 7-9 or 8-8, all Niners fans are welcome aboard the unstoppable Pats bandwagon. (I'm pretty much a bandwagon fan myself, having mostly ignored them in their lean years, but I can always invoke my Boston birthright to re-claim them...)

by Sleepy Freud on Sep 17, 2007 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

those niner games
looked UGLY.  you woulda thought they won by default after beating a team that gained almost 3Xs as many   yards as they did.  i guess Jean Claude Van-Damme and Dennis Rodman's classic exchange in the hit movie "Double Team" are true life lessons within and without sports.

Van Damme "offense gets the glory"
Rodman "defense wins the game"

by dj fuzzylogic on Sep 17, 2007 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you actually watched that?
Even the van dam flicks that made it to the theaters were B-movie quality(or less).  Who am I to judge, I still stop in my tracks to watch a shaw bros flick.

The best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Sep 17, 2007 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

van damme flicks
have a weird place in my heart.  they're great for their corny narrative conventions (don't two movies involve the death of a twin brother, which he must avenge which leads to some sex scene with his twin brother's friend/former lover?).  seagal nor chuck norris got nothing on van damme!

by dj fuzzylogic on Sep 17, 2007 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH SNAPS! DID u SAY VAN DAMME!?!
I don't give a f#$k what heads say, I am one of the biggest Van Damme Fans out there! Why?!? I don't know! I just think his flicks r entertaining as hell even the new ones! SHoot- all he does is beat a$$! I still buy his sh!t!! Shoot- before Tony.psd was drawing and designing Warrior Heads, I was Havin' Van-Damme-a-thon's at the crib all summer long! Peep the graphics lol!


Take your fancy clothes and black silk an-derwear back to Disneyland!

by Tony.psd on Sep 18, 2007 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tony
You are absolutely absurd. And I mean that in a good way. HA!

I got a trivia question for you...who can stop number 5?

by R Dizzle on Sep 18, 2007 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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