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OPEN THREAD: Game 39 - Warriors @ Timberwolves

Originally posted Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:45:39 AM PDT

Warriors (W-L): 22-16
Timberwolves (W-L): 5-31
Time: 5:00pm PST
TV: FSN Bay Area
Radio: KNBR 680

I love looking at statistics.  

No, I'm not a numbers guy.  In fact, I don't quite understand the PER and +/- business that people are using now as objective judgment of a player's worth (though I still find them helpful and intriguing time to time).  But in my spare time sometimes, I end up checking out players' career stats.  As a kid, I used to cut out the standings from the San Jose Mercury and save them to chart the Warriors status, daily.   There was something about the win to loss percentage/ratio that I liked and I'm not sure why.  

Well, in my usual fashion, I know that the Warriors winning percentage is .579 as they near the halfway point of the season.  They've, according to my records, been unable to pass this mark and move into the .600 range that most 2nd tier playoff teams are situated at (unless your in the East, which .579 means your in the top 3).  

Perhaps this road trip will be the time when the Warriors -- statistically speaking -- become a 2nd tier playoff team!

Star-divide

The Warriors take on the Minnesota Timberwolves tonight.  Is it me or are we always playing them?  Anyway, patterns show that the Warriors usually lose after winning two games in a row.  And even though they play the T-Wolves tonight, that doesn't seem to give me confidence that the Warriors will make it into the statistical promised land of the .600 teams.  Since the beginning of December, the Warriors have been unable to put together a winning streak longer than 2 games.  And on several of those occasions, the Warriors have lost miserably following a great team effort (getting blow out by Dallas after dismantling Houston on January 2nd and then being blown out by Portland after surviving a OT win over San Antonio).

Monta Ellis loves playing the T-Wolves if his stats are any indication (29 points a game versus them).  But Rashad McCants loves playing the Warriors and so does Al Jefferson apparently.  Though Monta and Baron had their way with the T-Wolves undersized guards (poor Bassy), Jefferson looked nearly unstoppable -- offensively -- against the Warriors nearly non-existent interior.  You know, I would like to see more Austin Croshere this game.  He's got the muscle to bang on the inside, can hit some threes, and looks good on his way to the basket (but not necessarily at the basket when he bricked a few contested layups).  Troy Murphy wishes he could be his caliber if he just had more foot speed (and muscles).  But I digress.  Depending on the matchups, Croshere seems like be able to contain some of the more muscular big men in this league, with the possibility of shooting the three like the rest of the team (as we've seen him too).  

Predictions:

* Warriors by -7
* KBLX scores 6 points and 3 assists
* Brandan Wright vs. Corey Brewer is the PREMIER matchup for tonight!
* Rashad McCants ... SHUT DOWN!  But Gerald Green plays like its his last year/game in the league.

What are your predictions?  Drop your predictions and comments before and during the game!

Also, if you haven't seen it already, check out Pree's excellent interview with Mr. Croshere himself!

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uh rashard mccants?
no matter. I expect monta to blow up tonight. look for 28 plus.
straight g

by RC650 on Jan 15, 2008 11:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

to clarify
its Rashad McCants...
straight g

by RC650 on Jan 15, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sidebar schedule
says that we're playing the grizz today. it should probably be adjusted whenever y'all update the W's.

i see kblx getting some good minutes. hopefully wright gets some burn

art by jnazaire 07

by disguy on Jan 15, 2008 11:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously
a -7 for us?

Didnt we just have a horrible game against Indy even though we won?
I think we are due to have a good shooting night.
Im calling +9
I got a 6 pack on it

by highflya on Jan 15, 2008 11:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

what brand?
does that mean you'll send it to me if I guess right? i'll take some high life please. :P

by dj fuzzylogic on Jan 15, 2008 11:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

man soda
if you are right then I will be more than happy to oblige. But Miller High Life? Cmon thats just bad almost like your prediction;)

by highflya on Jan 15, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha.
yeah, seriously.. i mean, high life IS the champagne of beers, but cmon. i would have to go for blue moon on that one.

if the warriors make their shots tonight, and no one is a volume shooter, then this will be a long night for the t-wolves.

by KINGofCRASH on Jan 15, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha ok
soda works too. aw, no love for the high life? its embarassing when your in public settings and people think you're a cheapo. but 3-4 dollars per? can't front on that.

by dj fuzzylogic on Jan 15, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i really wouldn't mind
seeing croshere get the start today over the injured andres.  he can bump guys inside and is all hustle.  I was skeptical at first of picking him up in the off-season, but he's starting to grow on me.

then we will fight in the shade.

by Swamp Thing on Jan 15, 2008 11:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I like him too...
He plays hard, always boxes out, and has good fundamentals.  It's clear that he's a veteran in this league.  The only downside has been the injuries so far this season.

by kinetic on Jan 15, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Next 7 games
One of the things I like to look at is a team' up coming schedule when deciding on what a team needs to do to be in good shape for the playoffs. This next stretch of seven games is super important, because they are all games that Warriors should win. Here's the list:

Tue 15     @ Minnesota     
Wed 16     @ Indiana       
Fri 18     @ Chicago       
Sat 19     @ Milwaukee
Mon 21     vs Minnesota
Thu 24     vs New Jersey
Sun 27     vs New York

Personally, I think the Warriors need to go 6-1 or maybe 5-2 (at the worst) if they want to make the playoffs this season. A 6-1 showing would put them at 28-17 (5-2 would be 27-18), which should be good enough to keep them around the 7th or 8th seed in the Western Conference. Also if they can hold server (or go at least 7-2 during those 9 games) at home during the month of February then I think they'd cement themselves in the 2k8 playoffs. Any thoughts?

by mcwalter44 on Jan 15, 2008 11:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i think we are due for a good shooting
night..but maybe we shouldn't collect until we play the pacers.

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 12:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I really hope
we win the first quarter! That is always a concern nowadays with the dubs :(
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Jan 15, 2008 12:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Also
I really believe this road trip is really trap for the dubs. They may have under .500 record but we always have trouble against them.!
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Jan 15, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

and
+7 for them tonight. they can and will beat them
Thunder!!!

by PHUT! on Jan 15, 2008 2:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i hate the phrase "volume shooter"
the fsn crew has recently fallen in love with it and passed it on to its listeners.

example: "stephen jack has turned into a volume shooter tonight, going 3-14 from the field."

They mean someone who is taking and missing a lot of shots.

Doesn't volume just mean quantity? wtf so if jack was 23-31 from the field he sure as hell is a volume shooter, but the only time the phrase is used is if the player is shooting a poor percentage

/rant

RIP mAC dRE aka aNDrE mACAsSi aka MuHaMMeD I-E aka pILL cLinToN

by jmefrisco on Jan 15, 2008 3:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Gomes
i expect to see a relatively eay win by the dubs tonight.

But i think a player that is really going to kill tonight is Ryan Gomes.

I doubt that Nellie will give Stack Jack a mission to stop him but he is coming off a season best 21 points along with 9 rebounds at San Antonio and a then season tying best 20 in Houston both very good defensive teams, He is getting some big minutes at SF and i think he'll have a good game against the Dubs.

Does anyone know the odds for this one...

by DoomBizzle on Jan 15, 2008 4:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Its Up to the Warriors
They know they are one of the best teams in the league and they have the talent to beat the Wolves and should beat them.  Its all about execution.

Baron and Monta, if they play up to their level, should dominate Telfair and McCants.  Biedrins can control Jefferson.  Harrington has to make Smith pay for being slower.

Croshere is someone who is going to be good in spurts only.  Do not think he can play 25-30 mins in an NBA game, especially not the way the W's play and depend on him, when he is in there, to be the main inside presence.  He's dependable and great range for a big guy, but he's not the answer.

Nothing better than "The City".

by philsmith75 on Jan 15, 2008 4:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wtf
its dead silent in that stadium.. the only sound i hear is the sound of "go warriors!" hahah

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 5:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

something is wrong with biedrins
he doesn't seem as smooth anymore... that bruise hurt him a lot.

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 5:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

but anyway
he is doing hes job well -just looks slow
but Al and Jack made a 3s -good sign

W's look more motivated then in last game

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Jan 15, 2008 5:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder...
why isn't nelson starting chroshere tonight.  He's risking andris's health even more, and we need his ass on the court.  :(
SHOOT THE J! SHOOT IT!

by slipnslide on Jan 15, 2008 5:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
does anyone have a link to listen online while im at work?

thanks in advanced!!

Impactsounds.com

by djtec on Jan 15, 2008 5:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else watching the FSN North broadcast?
Their commentators have nothing but praise for Monta Ellis. They haven't really talked about anything else. They really like Monta. But whats not to like ;)

by curtischin on Jan 15, 2008 5:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

theres not much else to talk
about.. not like the game is very exciting right now.

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 5:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Probably dumb but...
did C.J not travel?

by volsfan82 on Jan 15, 2008 5:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yay
barnes made a shot!!

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 5:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

A little help please
I'm currently out of town for work but I wanted to find an internet streaming radio to listen to the game.  Does anyone know of any?  I tried the official KNBR one but they switch it to 1050 during warriors games for god knows what reasons.  Thank you!

by WhiteElephantGuy on Jan 15, 2008 5:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wait!
I just saw the earlier new post with the link.  Thank you!

by WhiteElephantGuy on Jan 15, 2008 5:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks!
thanks for the link!!! allonyou!!!
Impactsounds.com

by djtec on Jan 15, 2008 5:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

PIETRUS
SUCKS ASS.please trade him mully

by GSwarrior on Jan 15, 2008 5:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

sigh
we suck...bring ellis back

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 5:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

MP!!
PIETRUS???  where did that come from?

by MoreHeartThanBrains on Jan 15, 2008 5:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

my word
croshere misses another dunk... why does he do that?!!

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 5:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

BIEDRINS
is playing OK just @ D
-that's because he knows how to take a good position -that's why he get these rebs and changed shots

but O
-nothing to say -looks like he suffers

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Jan 15, 2008 5:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

bench
is playing great right now!

by lowchi on Jan 15, 2008 6:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

why
is baron still on the floor.. rest him.. thats why we have watson..

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 6:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

bb
Anyone who wants to watch it go onto this site http://www.raptorsnation.net/forum/live/live30.php
Working fine for me, dont thnk you have to dwnload anything

by UKgswfan on Jan 15, 2008 6:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Again
someone please teach Gerald Green how to wear a headband.

by semarubaka on Jan 15, 2008 6:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Solid Half
GS-56 MIN-44
Just keep up what we've been doing and we should get an easy win.

by Calamity on Jan 15, 2008 6:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i think
that's game for POB
build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Jan 15, 2008 6:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that last sequence
vintage jackson: drive into traffic and throw it away, then jack up an early three and miss everything

by AJC3317 on Jan 15, 2008 6:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

poor
andris.. he cant buy a point.

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 6:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

lol
they are playing the office intro music

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 6:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

haha
I enjoyed that
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Jan 15, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
THAT was an offensive foul?
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!

by tadams1080 on Jan 15, 2008 6:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yay
austin with the dunk!

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 6:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

croshere
has some nasty dunks - i love him off the bench and his 3pter

by Dub Life on Jan 15, 2008 6:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow
what a end to the third quarter!
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!

by tadams1080 on Jan 15, 2008 6:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow
barnes actually doing decent today. Lets hope this continues

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 6:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

but
Biedrins is broken!

by curtischin on Jan 15, 2008 6:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nice end of the 3rd q
5 points in 2 sec. :)
Don Nelson always has been the NBA coaching equivalent of "MacGyver," innovating and improvising his way to success (Aschburner, CNNSI)

by BlauGold on Jan 15, 2008 6:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

man
really impressed with Croshere tonight
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!

by tadams1080 on Jan 15, 2008 6:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

jim barnett
Did you hear when Jim Barnett said, " I'd rather be hit with a hippo than a rhino.  Rhinos are dangerous, hippos are dossal?" LOL

by mrhater on Jan 15, 2008 7:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

AB
need to get AB off, its as if were just playing with 4 guys atm

by UKgswfan on Jan 15, 2008 7:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i guess
barnett doesn't understand how they came up with the idea of Hungry Hippo

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 7:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

horrible game management
why would you repeatedly go to the same one on one matchup when you're getting absolutely nothing out of it?

by AJC3317 on Jan 15, 2008 7:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

craig smith
looks like a ny knick
Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 15, 2008 7:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

or ny "football" giants
Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 15, 2008 7:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
buke got mugged, and no call? crazy
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!

by tadams1080 on Jan 15, 2008 7:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

are you damn seroius?
how the hell the refs dont see azubuike get damn runn over no call? man

by GSwarrior on Jan 15, 2008 7:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

lol
wow, jackson totally travelled! shh
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!

by tadams1080 on Jan 15, 2008 7:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

jackson is always travelling
remember that one in houston

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 7:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

well
good W for 1st of 4 road games
-very rational bball -but that's a indication of brains -next game vs pacers and this is more important
build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Jan 15, 2008 7:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

praying that biedrin
will get his soft touch back.

by saintdee on Jan 15, 2008 7:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Man
I miss Biedrins. He helps the Warriors out so much by getting easy buckets inside. But the last couple of games, they aren't very easy for him. That thigh bruise needs to heal up in a hurry.

by racsan on Jan 15, 2008 8:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

YES
The score looks nice.
Keeping a team under 100 is great for a change.
Monta didnt have the night one would think after getting so many points early but a W is more important than the individual.

My prediction of Ryan Gomes wasn't exactly true even though he had a solid line.

Good road game and a solid confidence builder heading into the next 3 games on the road.

Keep up the good work cant wait for the RECAP

The Beginning of the "We Believe" Movement of Melbourne, Australia.

by DoomBizzle on Jan 15, 2008 9:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

anybody notice
jax flippin the bird after making that final 3-pointer?

hahaha...watch the replay right before they cut to commercial..

by JudBooshlur on Jan 15, 2008 9:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Haha
I was gonna say that during the game but i had no internet. He was a pretty calm coach at that celeb. bball game so how can he be hella different on and off the court

by warriorgirl on Jan 15, 2008 10:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Proof...
That Barnett reads GSoM. He totally stole my wetsuit joke about Baron and all his sleeves and pads. =P
.

by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2008 10:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

JB
a shoutout on air about GSoM is overdue. what u think? lol

by baller90210 on Jan 15, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i thought
the same thing when i heard him say the wetsuit joke. lol
Bring on the BD Show!!!

by dajrichshow on Jan 15, 2008 10:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hah
Nice job finding that. I remember when they played this during the houston game, hilarious. I gotta show my gf, a matt barnes fan....finally he played well the whole game except for that travel.  

Is it just the dubs? I guess because we're really just not at that level yet but usually when GREAT teams are up by a lot, say 20...they never look back. are teams just that pissed off when we are killing them or do we just get way too comfortable?? sigh, always torture. oh well

art by jnazaire 07

by disguy on Jan 16, 2008 12:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we get lazy
toward the end and shoot endless 3s and once the other team realizes we're not making those 3s they start cutting the lead. Remember that game in Memphis where we had a big lead but then we did the same thing and then we had to bring baron back etc etc.

by saintdee on Jan 16, 2008 1:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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