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Most Likely to be Traded

I want to see what you guys think about all these different trade rumors.  With all these underachieving and desperate yet talented teams, this trading deadline could be exciting.  Here's who I think is truly on the trading block, why, and where they would be a good fit.  Feel free to add your own and comment.

Kirk Hinrich & Ben Gordon
It's no secret that the Bulls' offense is underachieving and horrible.  Luol Deng isn't the slashing type superstar they wanted him to be.  They lack both an inside post presence and a slasher.  Hinrich and Gordon are both lights out jumpershooters... if they get good looks.  I think they'd be a perfect fit feeding off Yao Ming's double teams in Houston.  They wouldn't have to try to dribble penetrate, create for others, or even do anything special.  All they'd have to do is run the offense through Yao, and sit back and enjoy all the open jumpers they'll get.

Mickael Pietrus
This one's a no-brainer and we all know it.  Matt Barnes' oncourt leadership and hustle limit Pietrus' involvement and minutes on our squad.  Contrary to what we all believe,  Pietrus has some value.  He's a solid shooter, he defends better than most at his position, and he doesn't turn the ball over as much as we think (although they're usually of the demoralizing, unforced type turnovers).  At his price tag, he could be useful to a bunch of teams that need a little boost off the bench.  Miami, Milwaukee, New Orleans just to name a few.  It all depends on how much Mullin is asking for.

Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming needs more shot attempts and more touches.  He's one of the most unstoppable forces in the game, and he's playing next to a guy named Tracy that needs to dominate the ball in order to be comfortable in the offense.  Tracy needs to be on a team that needs a lone go-to guy.  I think he'd be perfect in Chicago; he'd get to be the MAN their on offense.  I think a trade revolving around Hinrich/Gordon for McGrady could be an intriguing possibility.

Lamar Odom & Kwame Brown
I think the Lakers are going to slip soon.. big time.  They're without Bynum and they're going to be going up against a really tough schedule.  Panic is going to set in once again.  Lamar Odom is a waste of talent on that team, they're trying to turn him into a player that's not.  It's apparent that Bynum/Bryant is the new duo in LA, leaving Odom slightly expendable if they could get some good talent in return, which they definitely could.  The rise of Ariza, Radmanovic, and Turiaf, coupled with the consistency of Luke Walton, make Odom even more expendable. Alot of teams in the East need a solid PF: New Jersey, Cleveland, Miami to name a few.  Kwame Brown is just a big $9mil expiring contract who's definitely worn out his welcome in LA, but at least he's a big backup center who can play some D.  He'd be useful somewhere for half a season.

Rudy Gay or Mike Miller
It's plain to see that this team is very talented, but they're not very good... at all.  The big reason for this is DEFENSE, neither Gay or Miller want to play any.  They'd be extremely stupid to move Pau Gasol, so I think one of these two guys should go.  They could fetch alot of return value as well.

Ricky Davis & Haslem & J.Williams
This team sucks, and these guys are the reason why they suck.  This team is in desperate need to rebuild, but they have that superstar Dwyane Wade so they're kind of stuck in a rock and a hard place.

Charlie Villanueva
He's talented, but he's lost his role on the team to Yi JianLian.  He should be moved for some depth.

Zach Randolph & Quentin Richardson
Isaiah Thomas won't give minutes to David Lee and Renaldo Balkman, yet he refuses to trade them for anyone.  Something has got to give here.  But who's willing to take these guys?

Kurt Thomas
There's no reason why the Sonics should be paying him $9mil at the end of this year, unless their owner is a very very bad business man.  I can see why they traded for him (the Suns actually traded picks to Seattle for the privilege of unloading salary), but I can't see why they've still held onto him.  He'd be very useful as a playoff post defender.  I'm still an advocate of the Warriors trading a second rounder to get him.  

Poll
Most Likely to be Traded?
Kurt Thomas
11 votes
Kirk Hinrich
0 votes
Ben Gordon
3 votes
Mickael Pietrus
63 votes
Tracy McGrady
6 votes
Lamar Odom & Kwame Brown
1 votes
Ricky Davis & Haslem & J.Williams
6 votes
Rudy Gay or Mike Miller
0 votes
Charlie Villanueva
6 votes
Zach Randolph & Quentin Richardson
4 votes

100 votes | Poll has closed

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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Kirk Hinrich is not a good jumpshooter- ask Bulls fans and check his annual FG%. Gordon's the better jumpshooter, but his lack of size, lack of elite handle, turnovers, and lack of defense mean his best role is bench spark plug.

Rudy Gay will not be traded. How could you trade a guy this good on his rookie contract? If anything, you teach him and make him better.

Miller is a better bet to go because he's highly productive, though expensive. He could bring a decent return of expirings and picks, or young talent.

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by OptionZero on Jan 20, 2008 12:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

trading deadline
seems anti-climatic since there is so much written and talked about when so little action really takes place! I can see MP getting moved, or not. He's not really a big story outside our little world. Thomas could help the right team, us? But so few teams could actually pull the trigger on a big trade that Indy's O'Neal or NJ's Carter are very unlikely to get moved. Which makes last season's Indy trade stand out all the more ...

by hardcore on Jan 20, 2008 12:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

McGrady
I wonder who would even want him. I think he's a poor fit playing with a stationary big man- his J is too inconsistent. His health and attitude problems don't help either.

Ideally he has another bigtime scorer to take over in crunch time when he's not that great, and a cast of athletic guys who also run and defend as well.

The contract is gonna make any deal prohibitive.

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by OptionZero on Jan 20, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

exactly
TMac and Yao Ming are a horrible match for eachother.  

But I don't think he's that impossible to move.  He's an extremely streaky shooter with a less than spectacular career FG% (much like our own superstar, Baron Davis), but everything else about his game is quality.  He's got great size for a guard with amazing handles, passes the ball well, rebounds well, and defends well when he wants to.  Plus he's got great marketability and fan appeal across the country.

If Allen Iverson, Steve Francis, Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, and their albatross contracts were tradeable, I'm sure Houston could make a move if they really tried to.  And I believe they should, because at this point pairing Yao and TMac together isn't the most effective idea.

by jlagace on Jan 20, 2008 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

T-Mac
He's impossible to move if you're trying to get anywhere close to equal value in return. His contract and injury issues have causes his trade value to plummet even though it's undeniable that he's one of the best in the league when he's healthy.
The Rockets really can't trade him until he stays healthy long enough to convince another team to give up someone good for him.
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Jan 21, 2008 9:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

eh
  • First you say he's got too much value to match.
  • Then you say his trade value has plummeted.
  • Then you say his value is so low that no team would trade for him.
You just contradicted yourself twice in three sentences, man.

What's even funnier than alot of the bizarre trade ideas are their equally bizarre and confusing rebuttals here on GSOM: "No don't trade for them, they suck!!!  Besides, there's no way they'd trade them away anyway, cuz they're too good to trade."

The truth of the matter is that trades very rarely involve an equal exchange of talent, if that were the case then every trade would probably be a sideways move for both teams anyway.  What motivates trades more is the financial structuring of it all, usually.

by jlagace on Jan 21, 2008 4:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow that's annoying
I obviously meant that his current value has plummeted too far below his potential value for the Rockets to consider a trade. No team would give anyone remotely close to his potential value at this time.

I'm not sure what I did to offend you. You're probably just bitter because you got called out on some of your retarded points in this diary. Kirk Hinrich a "lights out jumpshooter" and the notion that the Grizzlies would even consider trading Rudy Gay.

It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Jan 22, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hm?
I'm not trying to pick fights over the internet, maybe the comment portrayed a hostile tone but that's not how I meant for it to come across.

And I don't mind people making comments about the points I made in this diary, that's what the diary was for in the first place.

by jlagace on Jan 22, 2008 8:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ok
I try my hardest to avoid online fighting too, because I really have much better uses for my time. But when you question the logic of a pretty obvious point that I was making by saying "you contradicted yourself 3 times in 3 sentences, man," do you really expect me to not defend myself? Perhaps I didn't word my post the most intelligently but again, it's not really worth my time to make sure everything I say is gramatically correct, as long as the point of the post is clear. It's like when you say "It's plain to see that this team is very talented, but they're not very good... at all." This statement makes no sense, but your point was obvious, so there's no reason to call you out on it. That is all. This is my last comment on the issue no matter  what your reply is. Go Warriors!
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Jan 23, 2008 12:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

good article
on the trade landscape is at:

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-29-51/Trade-Talk--Ten-Teams-to-Watch.html

gotta read through to get to the GSW, but having done so will leave you with an optimistic appraisal of our relative position to make a deal - we have room under the luxury cap as well as the large TPE.

Hey Mullin, get 'er done!

by hardcore on Jan 20, 2008 4:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

From the article

Nobody I have talked to, anywhere in the NBA, thinks Sacramento plans to keep both Mike Bibby and Ron Artest for the long haul.

I'd like some artest please!

by sup3rk1ng on Jan 20, 2008 11:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good list
But the only thing you are DEAD WRONG about is that Memphis would trade Rudy Gay. I don't know if you didn't have any ideas left or what, but Iavaroni would be shot if he traded Gay.

Memphis is set running the uptempo offense and they have guys who excel in it (Lowry, Conley, Gay and Miller). If Memphis continues to lose, i have no doubt Gasol will beckon for another trade demand.

Gay seems to be the only guy bringing it every night, so i see no reason to even assume that Gay is available.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 20, 2008 6:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rudy Gay
Maybe I am wrong about them ever trading him away, but I still think he's quite overrated by everyone.    He's a joy to watch on the offensive end, hitting big shots and whatnot.  But he's a complete dissappearing act on defense, especially for his size.  Maybe I'm not being too harsh on the young guy.

But I do feel he is their most valuable and moveable asset, besides Pau Gasol.  I think they'll be REAL stupid if they move Gasol.  You don't find very many 7 footers in the league who can score like that, rebound like that, block shots like that, hit free throws like that, pass like that.  If I were them, I'd package Rudy Gay with some of their bad contracts (Darko $7mil, Stoudamire $4.5mil, etc) and bring in a solid veteran who can play on both sides of the ball.  Obviously what they have now isn't winning them any games, no matter how fancy Rudy Gay and Mike Miller are playing this season.  The media unfairly scapegoats Pau Gasol as well.  The simple fact of the matter is they have no DEFENSE.

by jlagace on Jan 20, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NO
it's not happening, they aren't trading Gay.

he's got two years left on his rookie deal and has improved considerably since last year, with even more room to go. While this year is a disappointment, it's hardly grounds to kick out a possibly elite talent like that.

Neither Darko nor Stoudamires' contracts are crippling enough to warrant trading Gay. They're buying out Stoudamire, purportedly for a mere 20%. Even without a buyout we learned that there is a clause that cuts his $4m down to $2M if he doesn't reach certain playing time levels (which u can bet he won't now).

Stromile Swift and Mike Miller will probably net more reasonably returns without sacrificing key parts. Navarro can fill Miller's role as gunner, Swift and Warrick are both athletic PF's.

They need to decide if Gasol can adjust to an uptempo game or not.

They need to give Conley/Lowry time to mature into potentially one of the best PG tandems in the league.

They do not need to give up on Gay.

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by OptionZero on Jan 20, 2008 8:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even before if he fits their style.
They need to be able to convince him that they will be a winning team VERY SOON! He is not shy telling the Spanish press that he really does not care for Memphis (as a city) and if they are not going to win, there isn't much keeping him from reiterating his trade demands from last season.
The interesting thing about that situation is what then would Navarro do if he didn't have his pal Gasol in Memphis.

by tangel29 on Jan 21, 2008 1:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like you're talking about Shane Battier
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 20, 2008 9:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what about this deal
Yeah I know its indiana but they seem to actually like dunleavy. I'm not sure I wanna give up on belli just yet but i think it makes us better this year. http://realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

by houseofprime2 on Jan 20, 2008 9:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

NO
i didn't even click on your link, and I'm saying your deal is horrible and will never happen.

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by OptionZero on Jan 20, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hater in the house
lol alright. ok then i will just ask your opinion on marquis daniels then. he played for nellie before and can play 3 positions.

by houseofprime2 on Jan 20, 2008 10:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We don't need any more role players
We have that in MP, Barnes, Cro, CJ Kelenna, and thus far--Brandan, Belli, POB, Kosta.

Above all we need a power forward...obviously. Like TK was saying, Brandan Wright right now is our only option unless we acquire one via trade. But that option is minimal. How many 4's are available on the market right now without the warriors having to give up any core members (Baron, AB, Jax)??

Since we can't land that impact 4, I'd like to see us go for a slashing 3 that can play big and doesn't over-rely on the 3 ball. I think a guy like Richard Jefferson would look great on our team. He slashes to the court, finishes on the break and hits his freethrows.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 20, 2008 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jefferson
cant guard Boozer,Milsaps,LMAldridge,Duncan,West..etc....

Pass

by highflya on Jan 20, 2008 11:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone on our current roster?
Can any 4 we trade for contend with those guys? What i'm saying is that since there are, as of yet, no impact 4's that the warriors could get w/o giving up too much, we could benefit from getting a star player at the 3. RJ shoots FT's, slashes to the rim, creates contact and can get the And 1 plays. He would help when our offense gets stagnant and too 3 happy.

Arguments against:

  1. RJ may not be available, and if he could be had, Benson may ask for too much for it to be worth it.
  2. Makes too much money for Cohan to think its worth it.
My first choice would be Shaun Marion, but no matter what way i think of it, there's no way we could get him. Phx would never deal him to us. Warriors cannot create enough salary cap to sign him in the summer of 09' (I'm presuming we resign Baron, AB, and Monta).

If we find our PF to play against the WC's elite, it'll be through a trade that exceeds the braintrust here on GSOM, Brandan Wright or someone yet to be drafted.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 21, 2008 1:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
I went back and clicked your link. You  now what it sends people to?

"Trade cannot be displayed"

Yeah, I'm a hater. I'll take hating over fail anyday.

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by OptionZero on Jan 20, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hey the trade worked
I wouldnt have bothered to post it if it didnt work. it only said that because a lot of time went by before you clicked it.

by houseofprime2 on Jan 20, 2008 11:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
You missed the point completely.

Your fantasy trade might have worked, but the link you posted didn't.

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by OptionZero on Jan 20, 2008 11:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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