if webber is signed.. though someone is going to get their minutes cut..feelings are going to get  hurt1!

I really hope this isn't happening.  It would be fun to watch though...

something tells me this would be good.

why is it neccasary that c-webb runs the break like monta?

how many times does monta get on a break and pull out resulting in others to run up the court.. not all too much.

he doesnt need 30+ minutes to be effective so its not like he will get thrashed...

bring him in when it becomes a half court game or when an opposing 4 gets hot.

The Half Court playoff strategy finally makes sense through all this noise of Webber and Payton.  Could these two Vets be just using us in order to get better deals from the Celts or the like?  On a national stage, the Webber story would be excellent, even Chuck would have to approve, right?

Barnett always mentioned that Bill Russell never stepped past half court on a fast break.  He was to always defend the rim.  Imagine the outlet passes Webber would make to increase the Fast Break opportunities.  He could ignite us like Barnes can but stay back and defend the rim.

JB and Zack Vank also chimed in with these observations, so this blog really did add something to make sense of the outlandish rumors.  

Your Cathartic Warriors, where time and experience really does heal all wounds.  Webber is finally ready to fulfill his destiny with Nelson and we are ready to commence our historic run to a Championship.

Or maybe, Nellie did want to munch on some wings and wash it down with a cold Michelob.  This could be an excellent smoke screen to get Haslem.

To me it says that Mullin will not be making any trades. If you look at our roster, to get an impact guy we have to trade Harrington but that would break up the chemistry. By adding a veteran, Nellie will actually give Webber minutes. Our bench gets deeper. We now have a lost post backup. And our future remains the same. How else to we help this team if Mullin wants the core to stay? (Just talking, dont need 8 trade scenarios.) I like the move. Because the basketball gods have not been kind to us since his departure. Maybe this is the ok, ok, its all back in place moment that lets us get some breaks for awhile.

How're you doing?  Just a brilliant and beautiful post you made.  Just beautiful...  

You stated you almost cried when they traded CWebb all those years ago.  Well, I DID CRY!     The golden franchise was destroyed and it took years with the return of Nellie and the Trades bringing B Davis, AL Harrington, and C Jack to the Ws for them to reach the playoffs again.

I agree, it'll be special to reunite the two major players in the Warriors meltdown and how they could end their careers together with a championship.  I think both have major major regrets of what transpired though I had doubts about Webber ; but if CWebb signs this will confirm this.

Do you think it'll be like when the legendary Rick Barry returned to the Warriors from the ABA in the early '70's and all was forgiven between him and Franklin Mieuli.  Al Attles and the team welcomed him back with open arms!  And you know what happened a few years later in 1974-75!

Peace,
Kirk

How're you doing?  Just a brilliant and beautiful post you made.  Just beautiful...  

You stated you almost cried when they traded CWebb all those years ago.  Well, I DID CRY!     The golden franchise was destroyed and it took years with the return of Nellie and the Trades bringing B Davis, AL Harrington, and C Jack to the Ws for them to reach the playoffs again.

I agree, it'll be special to reunite the two major players in the Warriors meltdown and how they could end their careers together with a championship.  I think both have major major regrets of what transpired though I had doubts about Webber ; but if CWebb signs this will confirm this.

 This is so preposterous that Nellie might make it work!

Do you think it'll be like when the legendary Rick Barry returned to the Warriors from the ABA in the early '70's and all was forgiven between him and Franklin Mieuli.  Al Attles and the team welcomed him back with open arms!  And you know what happened a few years later in 1974-75!

Peace,
Kirk

New to the blog, I love what you all have compiled here.  It is like a record of anguish I've personally endured by myself since RunTMC.  Now I know where my brothers are at.  

You've chronicled the Dirty Dozen already, no need to rehash the past.  And I think that is what is going on here for both coach and player.  For their own sakes they need this cure.  

If Webber does join, and takes the Dubs over the edge to a Championship, wouldn't it be like USA Hockey Team beating the USSR for us, long anguished Warrior fans?  We would NEVER forget where we were when it happened.

Well here's a mix of C-Webb in '06-'07...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292Qr--fg8E&feature=related

I think it would be a great low risk option for us, as long as Webber is agreeable to a small role and isn't expecting to be our starting power forward.  Our only concern would be disrupting our team chemistry and learning to play together. The upside is that it can generate more national attention for us to market our team. Let's hope he's been working out and has something to prove.

why are the dubs so interested in old people who can't play anymore?

I remember the ultimate team... it makes me sad to think we were close to being a consistent playoff team.  Think about it.  We had a starting 5 of:
PG:  Tim Hardaway
SG:  Latrell Sprewell
SF:  Chris Mullin
PF:  Chris Webber
C:   Rony Seikely
and a bench of
Victor Alexander (pretty smooth 3 pt shot from the top of the key)
Chris Gatling (energizer off the bench who rebounded at a fairly high clip)
Keith Jennings (great pg off the bench... also provided energy)
Ricky Pierce (a three pt threat off the bench... seasoned veteran)
Clifford Rozier/Carlos Rogers (both rookie bigs who could step in and provide adequate D while running the floor)
and whatever free agents would have came in.  I agree w/ Atma... We seriously could have continued to make noise in the playoffs and with an upset or two, possbily end up in the finals or w/ a championship.  Sure it was a pipe dream... but it did end w/ the trading of Chris Webber (why couldn't he let go of Billy Owens?)

Now, I truly believe that if we drop Hudson and sign Webber to a small contract for the rest of the season, that it would be far more helpful that it would be hurtful.  First off, we already have a vocal lockerroom leader in Baron Davis, so this talk about breaking down the lockerroom morale should not be a factor, especially at this stage of his career.  He understands what it takes to win (all the years in Sac help) and he CAN pose as a consistent threat in the half court setting.  

I know he wont run the floor, but you saw what happened in the Jazz series in last year's playoffs; their ability to keep a strong guard on Baron Davis while having the ability to run an adequate transition defense was enough to slow down our run & gun style to the half court setting on a consistent basis.  Webber can definately provide us with a big who can stretch the floor and pass the ball well without being a poor defensive liability.  

Another factor is our slew of line-up possibilties.  If Webber doesn't fit into the game plan, then we have the players necessary to not have to play him.  Nelson should be smart enough to recognize his strengths and weaknesses and know when he should be in the game and when not to be in the game.  If Beans mins are inconsistent, Webbers can be too.  

I definately would welcome Webber back to the bay... I'd just expect a little bit of "John Starks to Chicago" treatment to occur in the beginning.  

For a few days now. Someone at my work bought a Record Bee and I saw the story in the paper and I have been mulling it over.

This is my take. After some consideration I would embrace the signing of Webber.

The team could use another low post player and I don't think that can be disputed. The reason Webber did not resign with Detroit is that Detroit wanted to play and see what some of their younger players could do. With the Warriors at this point in time our younger bigs are not getting substantial time. If either POB, Perovic or Wright were getting about 12 minutes a game a night and doing well my opinion would be different. But since they are not I would welcome Webber to the team because it is not like it is going to negatively affect the development of our youth any different then it is now.

POB is for all intense and purposes gone next year. Perovic I have no idea, I was not able to watch the Bucks game, but being he only played one game it is obvious he is not ready now. And Brandon Wright has not gotten consistent time this season as he needs to bulk up.

Being these young guys can't get any playing time early in the season, what makes it seem that as the season progresses that would be any different? As the regular season comes to a close, and the games get tougher as teams via for playoff position and in the playoffs I do not see them getting any more time. Remember last season down the stretch that Nellie shortened his bench? We didn't see as much of Kelenna for instance. He seemed to shorten his bench down the stretch and the playoffs to guys that he knew he could believe in.

By adding Webber when he goes to the shorten the bench routine his rotation will be one player deeper then before because of Webber's veteran status and that he has been there before. If they bring in Webber and release Troy Hudson it seems to be a solid move to me. I'm not expecting miracles from Webber but I think he will be able to find a niche on this team in a positive way.

Now on the flip side if the Warriors were to sign GP and release Watson I would be very upset. And the only reason that my view there would be different is that Watson as a young player is playing and playing very well. No need to bring in an older vet for a younger player that is producing.

I think that Webber signing will give the Warriors a little more attention around the league. If a 'name'(I did not see impact production) player decides to come and join the team then it might make more potential FA's give the Warriors a second look. Their are certain cities and teams that FA's look to go to, I do not expect a Webber or GP signing to change the big name franchises like Lakers, Miami, New York, etc for FA destinations but it might make 2nd and 3rd tier FA's more receptable to give us a look.

So in summary, I would welcome CWebb because he would not negatively affect a young players development any more so then it is now. He would give the team one more player that Nellie would trust when he begins to shorten his bench, and Webber could potentially give us an added dimension to our team that we do not have currently if used in the right way.

to play in the low post anymore. Even so I think he could help this team, he could backup both the 5 and the 4, while bringing some sweet passing to the frontcourt. This move would help the Dubs, but I'm not sure if it is worth the risk of messing up the chemistry.

it is a way bigger upgrade from thud as jp said, and maybe he could help develop some of our younger guys like wright orsomething. there are multiple possibilities of how we can play him now even with his weak knees

...if he's down to be here. I think his passing ability probably makes up for the diminshed athleticism. He'd also have to take a clear backseat to Baron and Jackson as far as leadership is concerned, so I'm not worried about chemistry. Webber will give us a guy who can cut up a zone inside with his passing, which I think we can all agree would be helpful.

LOL, HIS KNEE WOULD SHATTER UNDER OUR RUN OFFENSE

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=ipb_cpa54Rw&rel=0&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//i.ytimg. com/vi/ipb_cpa54Rw/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKHeq7rFvZw-8bpwc4d4voo&color1=0x5d1719&color2 =0xcd311b&border=1

may trade with Miami? they have some young big men , don't remember their names sorry. Trade pietrus please!!!!!

so what are the chances of signing C-webb? 90%? this is going to be very interesting... we'll see

Does anyone else see this signing similar to what Phoenix did with Grant Hill? People were worried that Hill's bad ankle/groin wouldn't be able to handle Phoenix's uptempo offense but he has done pretty well there so far.

If we can get CWebb for similar to what Hill signed for with Phoenix we should pull the trigger. He has shown he can still rebound at a decent rate.... and that was with rebounders like Sheed, McDyess, and Maxiell around him. He can still hit the midrange J to keep opposing bigs away from the basket, which is key in Warriors strategy. He isn't elite on defense, but he is a bit bulkier than biedrens which might help against beasts like Boozer/Duncan/Gasol who routinely kill us. It just seems like a low risk option that has the potential for a high return.

trade players with the 10 million from the J-rich trade for Elton Brand. He is the only missing key for us for being a championship team.

Webber is a more rational thought than Payton though.  If I were Payton (and Kidd as well), I would have given a preferential deal to play in my hometown.  It just shows that the almighty dollar, coupled with the 12 year learning curve of Cohen as owner scaring any talent away from Oaktown, made the Warriors unappetizing.

Right about now, Antwan Jamison would be nice for his sick inside post game he showed when he was here.

payton, watson and webber... ?

15 roster spots... who we sending back to the d-league?

I was 2 years old when we had webber and dont even think i knew what a basketball was.
I want to see some vintage warrior ball NOW

I had this nightmare last night that Webber was back in a Warriors uniform. Then I turned on my computer and it seems it wasnt a complete dream. If CW comes back, and with Nellie at the helm, then things have gone full circle in the basketball realm (on a throwback jersey night, if you blur your eyes, even Harrington will look like Gatling with his headband).

I read through these replies and lets look at it this way:

1. Have our cake AND eat it too - Mullin is impressed with CJW and is likely to sign him for the season. Waiving Thud will make room for Webber. Whew! That makes this more bearable.
2. Offense - Sure, Webber has a 6" vertical, but his midrange is probably better than any on our current roster (minus CJ - havent seen too many from him YET). W's are an inside/out team. Either driving to the hoop with a spectacular finish or dish outside for a 3. CW brings another dimension to our offensive capabilities. If you think we can spread the opposing defense now, just wait till we have the midrange threat!
3. Addition to a thin bench - Is it just me, or has AB been somewhat mediocre as of late? Austin has been a SOLID addition this year playing in the middle, but his vulnerability to "soreness" makes AB the lame horse that he isnt when he is struggling. Throwing CW in the mix will give AB some time to get back to being AB in time for the playoffs (crossing fingers).
4. Veteran - A few head fakes here, a pump fake there and CW can easily be a 10-16ppg/5apg stat. What CW lost in mobility can be made up by his court awareness and veteran moves and jukes.
5. Cost (or lack of) - at the 1.5mil prorated vet league minimum, this is a STEAL!!! The Lakers are offering him the same, Pistons arent willing to make space for him. Now, if you were CW, and you had a choice to join the lakers (perhaps filling the starting void at CENTER - meaning banging against the bigs day in and day out), or signing with the Warriors to provide a deeper bench, who would you pick? Geee.... for the same money, Ill join the warriors, at least they dont expect TOO much out of me defensively. Again, at 750k, this is a bargain.

Alot are mumbling about Webber ruining the team chemistry. I highly doubt that. With one of the main driving forces of this signing (Barnes) being a co-captain, and the strong personality of the other captains, I think mutual respect will outplay any type of locker room shenanigans. So, just like the weather here in Socal, even though it seems pretty gloomy at first, the sun has to eventually come out... and I think this Cwebb acquisition is just that.

Oh, one last thing... if the Warriors make it to the playoffs and have to face Utah, Im sure that CW would be in the "WE BELIEVE" mode and will put everything aside and do what is asked of him. Can you just imagine CW containing BOOOOOZER? I can! Even if its just for that one series. After all, aside from Boston, Utah has been our only real nemesis. Ok, Im done.

I hear a lot of people worry about the chemistry if Webber comes to the fold. I have a hard time seeing it for a few reasons.

If Webber comes here it is by his own design.

Its not his rookie year where he was drafted here and didn't have a say, and/or was to immature to handle it all.

Its not like he was on a team, with his friends and teamattes and all of a sudden was told he was traded to another franchise against his wishes. That could have caused him to come in with a chip on his shoulder and a bad attitude because he didn't want to be here.

But this situation is totally different. For Webber to come into the fold he has to sign his own name on the dotted line. For him to come to this team he has to want to be here, and know under what pretenses his return is. There will be no surprises for him on what his role is going to be, that would be defined before he even steps onto the court.

I think if Webber does come to play for us you will see a 'good' soldier routine out of him.

If Webber and Nelson are man enough to bury the hatchet I don't see any problems forthcoming.

I agree with a lot of the comments in support of Webber. We know that Webber won't be able to run the floor like we like, but there are still things he can do. Remember in the second round last year, Utah forced us into a half court game. This is where Webber's big body and great passing could be very helpful. If we could get 10-15 mins out of him that would be good enough. Also there is something about him coming back to Golden State that makes me happy. Again very low risk, pretty decent upside and come on Chris Webber ending his career with the Warriors, it just seems right.

"We might never see such an amazing 4/5 passing combo like Chris Webber and Vlade Divac ever again. Hopefully people remember them for that. It was revolutionary and may never be duplicated again. They were the complete opposite of the Twin Turnovers you see in Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry big man combo."

Great observation on Vlade/CWebb... still laughing on the "Twin Turnovers" line