Baron Davis all star snub.
david west over baron davis? hell, yao ming and allen iverson over baron davis? whatever. this is going to be a blessing in disguise, watch how the warriors play now, nothing could feed their mentality better.... but damn, it's pretty painful that david west is deemed by the coaches to be a better fit for the all star game than baron davis. i mean the logic they're using of course is that west is a major contributor on a better team, but really now, are the hornets one of the best teams in basketball because of david west, or mainly be cause of chris paul? and too bad for marcus camby as well.
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well i cant believe it too
so w.e
Were all a little upset...
I can almost see your point
old? his time is past?
Baron is 28/29 yrs old. and AI is about 3 years older than Baron
Baron had a career high 19 assists earlier this month.. and avgs 22-8-5 with 2 steals for the season.. Aside from possible injuries, BD's time has NOT past
Did you even see last season's playoffs?
is latrell sprewell gonna have to choke a b*tch?
by Spree4Threee on Jan 31, 2008 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
thats exactly what I said
by Spidz34 @ Golden State Of Mind on Jan 31, 2008 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
is anybody watching TNT right now
Where is this info from?
WOW
Pray for the guy
by B Randon on Jan 31, 2008 4:38 PM PST reply actions
joke
but it defeats the point that's why they are wildcards in the first place.
it's just soooooo dumb
roy over baron is just a complete joke
offensive stats, defense, overall leadership, and better record all go baron's way in a landslide.
f*** sentimental favorites baron is having the best year of his career and he's been a 3? time all star
by jmefrisco on Jan 31, 2008 4:39 PM PST reply actions
Garbage
Like mentioned aboVE
PORTLAND LOSS
HORNETS LOSS
WARRIORS WOOP HORNETS.
and they pick NO and POR players
doesnt make sense to me
Portland isnt making the playoffs in my eyes;
what does one loss yesterday
Seriously, it makes no difference whatsoever.
Roy is the popular, sexy pick. Baron not so much. Just be thankful Baron can get some rest now. He'll need it, which is way more important than an appearance in a popularity contest anyway.
all
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Feb 1, 2008 2:35 AM PST up reply actions
ballots had to be in Tuesday
The fact is that Baron was snubbed because the Hornets and Blazers have vastly exceeded expectations while the Warriors are pretty much right where people thought they would be. That's not fair to Baron, but I really think that's what made the difference.
You make
by Dopey on Jan 31, 2008 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
We both agree it's not fair to Baron and I am kind of ticked off at the coaches for this but from knowing the tendancies of the Dubs, the coaches seriously might have opened up Pandora's box...Something they might have been sorry they did in the first place.
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
baron got screwed
by diver707 on Jan 31, 2008 4:40 PM PST reply actions
Link
http://www.nba.com/allstar2008/reserves_080131.html
I think Baron is hard done by, I forgot to add in my comment in the other diary that he could easily been voted in instead of West and not Roy though it would mean there would be a larger number of guards than forwards.
baron got screwed
by diver707 on Jan 31, 2008 4:41 PM PST reply actions
how
I bet you it was those iRoys...Portland bribe all those coaches with ipods.
Bigger Picture People...
It would be nice for him to be in the ASG, but priorities people...
by nsd14 on Jan 31, 2008 4:49 PM PST reply actions
oh hell no
wow...
just..
wow
like Baron said last night...it's all about the championship so maybe this will help us since he'll be able to rest up a couple more days...
agreed/
I'm almost sure the Blazers won't make the playoffs, and I've been saying it for a while.
If it weren't...
by Golden Gate Warrior on Jan 31, 2008 4:52 PM PST reply actions
you
Kobe Bryant and Philly
Image? West coaches must hate Baron's guts.
by The Barnes Supremacy on Jan 31, 2008 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know if this is true
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
yea he suppossedly
asdf
don't worry...
Baron gets to rest up during the break to tear up the West in the playoffs.
by nsd14 on Jan 31, 2008 4:52 PM PST reply actions
I hope the warriors...
yes
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
Roy in
by fryan on Jan 31, 2008 4:53 PM PST reply actions
This may drive Baron
He plays way better pissed off.
it's simple
david west plays for the NEW ORLEANS hornets.
west + NO = all-star pick. it's the ONLY reason he's in to begin with.
of all people..west!? lol?
12 years now...
by goldenberto on Jan 31, 2008 4:59 PM PST reply actions
all star injury
by goldenberto on Jan 31, 2008 5:08 PM PST reply actions
the coach picked the reserves right
asdf
by J Rich 4 MVP on Jan 31, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
sad how people dont see talent
I guess they dont like baron
all stars mean nothing these days
wat is important is the ring
Blazer fan here
I'm really happy for Roy (I think he deserved it) but I would be pissed off if I were you guys. I know Davis is an allstar.
I'm sure you guys take heart in the fact that the allstar game means pretty much nothing. If the Warriors make the playoffs and the Blazers don't, that's all Baron should or will care about.
Nice of you, Snake
especially since they're calling us assholes over there with no reason too. Baron got snubbed. Roy got in. BE would be pissed if it was the other way around and thats a fact.
cool.
Big ups though for coming over here.
I've been defending you guys
Blazer fans absolutely would be pissed if Roy had missed it- they'd say things like "Davis takes too many shots, Davis is a thug, etc." I agree that Oakland gets portrayed unfairly and some of the posts on BlazersEdge have been very disappointing.
I understand you guys are pissed, I just wish you'd focus your anger on the coaches, not on Roy the player- he's a class act and an amazing player.
OUTRAGE...
by MoreHeartThanBrains on Jan 31, 2008 5:17 PM PST reply actions
asdf
It's all good...
The selection of starters is a popularity contest and also done by hired staff by some teams to vote thousands of times a day.
The subs are selected by coaches who like any other person, remembers who torches them during the season and in previous years. Personal vendetta has to play a role in that. Not to mention the overated Byron Scott who drove Baron out of NO is probably going to coach the squad. I highly doubt that Scott wanted Baron on his bench.
Baron's our MVP no doubt but nobody outside the Dubz nation gives a crap about him so we could care less about him making the cut for a beauty pageant for the rest of the NBA.
Hmmm.......
Yess!!
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Tough
Roy has taken a team that was not expected to even sniff the playoff race this year and helped to make them a legit playoff contender.
West, while not getting a lot of pub, is a 20 and 10 guy on the team with the best record in the west.
I would have liked to see Baron instead of Roy but I can understand him getting the nod because of all the publicity they got during their long winning streak. People love to vote for surprises and winners. I can't get too mad at the choices... well maybe a little. Their were just too many good guards this year.
. WERD
Do you realized
Also, there is a key on the lower left and right hand side of your keyboard called "Shift," if you push that, it will capitalize words at the beginning of sentences.
haha
hahahah
fool
Go Iverson
we warriors are
and this isnt a sad day in dub land
if you watched the baron davis interview after the game he said something about playoff and championship
he didnt really seem to care about the allstar game
Deep down
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah Davis was screwed
sigh dont get that mad
we are getting that ring XD. o yea!!!!
hold on
by The City Warjorz on Jan 31, 2008 5:32 PM PST reply actions
Guys
I
noo need to
i dont think anyone has that many rings lol
all good JKsnake
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
We all know
by Dopey on Jan 31, 2008 5:41 PM PST reply actions
just FYI
They've also blown out the Warriors twice.
This doesn't prove Roy deserves it over Davis, but I don't think you can call him a "joke."
lets see what we have done lol
comeback from a huge deficit against heats
went on a nice run
blew out the suns
beat fakers
killed houston (except for the latest game)
back to back games and won them
beat hornets while they were hot
beat spurs twice
beat denver
wasn't suggesting...
I was just challenging the guy's assertion that "Brandy" Roy couldn't handle the good teams.
I think a big part of it was that the Warriors were expected to be in the playoff race. The Blazers were expected to be on the level of the Supersonics. It's not fair to Baron that he was hurt by higher expectations, but I think that's what happened.
werd
classy post, and very true
Living in the Bay Area, I'd like to wish you guys good luck, but unfortunately I can't since the Warriors are fighting my Blazers for the playoffs. HOWEVER, if the Blazers miss out, I will hope on the GSW bandwagon for the playoffs, just like I did last year.
I always like to see what you guys have to say, so I'll be around from time to time.
I enjoyed
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Not calling
by Dopey on Jan 31, 2008 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
the all stars
many other talented people was forgotten
Weak!!!!!!!
Baron Davis' Stats - 22.3 ppg, 8.1 apg, 4.8 rpg, 2.45 spg, .424 FG%, .35 3pt%
Branden Roy's stats - 19.3 ppg, 5.6 apg, 4.5 rpg, .93 spg, .44 FG%, .34 3pt%
Baron Davis bests Roy in every statistical category except Fg% and the Warriors also have a better record than the Blazers. Whack City the Basement.
Also, Baron is ranked third overall in yahoo's fantasy basketball behind only Marion and Paul. He's ahead of Kobe and Garnett and everybody else in the league. Roy is ranked as the 50th best player on yahoo fantasy. Baron Davis not on the all star team is fallacious.
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Jan 31, 2008 5:42 PM PST reply actions
asdf
by J Rich 4 MVP on Jan 31, 2008 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
idk?
i got an elevator in my house...... thats f'ing ridiculous
asfdh
Sorry Yo
Disappointed
But looking at the bright side, he's going to get an extra week of rest and probably play with an even bigger chip on the shoulder for the rest of the season.
BTW was going to go over to Blazer's Edge to congratulate them but started reading their diaries and saw that they're calling us animals for reacting the way we did in this thread. F that.
What happened
Sad day in Warriorland.
Used to be...
What in the Hell Do We Need To Do To Have Representation as an All Star. Not since Spree?
That's it.
I'm writing a letter to every Western Head Coach, whose with me?
by The Barnes Supremacy on Jan 31, 2008 6:14 PM PST reply actions
wow
I'ma still chant MVP when he shoots free throws.
If we're gonna get mad
It would've been nice for some deserved recognition headed Baron's way, but what Baron really deserves is a week's rest. He's been playing his butt off nearly every night and he needs time off. Nix the "ASG is a show of appreciation" deal. We can show Baron some real love every game in February.
by Caught Backcourt on Jan 31, 2008 6:17 PM PST reply actions
all in all
by maybenextyear on Jan 31, 2008 6:21 PM PST reply actions
im gonna make sure
Bottom line
by Dopey on Jan 31, 2008 6:28 PM PST reply actions
this is sooo annoying
by baller90210 on Jan 31, 2008 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
I understand Warriors fans being upset
I completely understand Warrior fans being angry over this, because it is a snub. You just can't be SURPRISED by it though. Baron Davis isn't exactly a coaches favorite. And TWO of the 15 voting coaches are George Karl and Byron Scott-- both not big fans of Baron. Just having those two coaches not vote for Baron is probably enough to not get him on the team (with all of the good guards this year).
I don't mind you guys venting, and as a Blazer fan I know how good Roy is. We got a bright future and our teams will have fun battles over the next few seasons. But really, the problem isn't Roy, it's the coaches not appreciating Davis for whatever reason they got.
Baron has much better numbers, but you can't deny that Roy is a coach's player.
And West is having a great season. I dunno how he played against the Dubs, but he's killed the Blazers even when we beat them twice. The surprise teams always get extra votes, as well.
If not Roy or West, it'd be Ginobili or Parker or Deron or McGrady or Josh Howard. There are a ton of good players in the west and you can't trust the coaches to not bring their own biases into the vote.
To me, as a Blazer homer, it should be Baron and Roy. But I know what the coaches like, and I'm not surprised by the snub. You just gotta make them pay in the playoffs.
Mortimer
i agree
werd
Anyways, congradulations. I agree the fact that Blazer fans have to come here and do damage control because our fans are poor sports is a little ridiculous. Here's to seein' you guys in the playoffs and havin' a hell of a series.
I was bugged too
I personally don't mind the venting, but I like hanging out here too and I gotta defend Roy at least a lil' bit. Baron doesn't get the respect his play deserves, and it's because his time in New Orleans is still haunting him. Coaches remember that type of stuff.
I'm still pulling for the Dubs and Blazers to make the playoffs, pushing Houston and someone else out...
Mortimer
Much props
by Dopey on Jan 31, 2008 6:35 PM PST reply actions
smh.....
by ThisIZtheSeason on Jan 31, 2008 6:36 PM PST reply actions
HAHAHA
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
im tired of
this is just as bad as Charles Barkley not dissing us last year or even worse! baron is running out of NBA years so we as fans might never see another warrior in all star game since friggin spree. Jrich winning back to back SD comps were nice but i'd like our LEADER to get his damn props!
just look at the damn numbers!!! how does roy get over when he's already participating in the Rookie Game? i dont how some people can stomach this.
if you ask me, it is that serious.
Oh well
Roy and West were just as deserving as all the other players that have been putting out great seasons this year, so it was expected that there were going to heartbreaks.

ワリアーズ!
whatever...
he has a blog you can comment on...
I'm a little relieved,
The Warriors are up against
the refs,
the league officials,
the western conference teams,
the non Golden State fans who use words like gangsta and thug when describing us,
and now the coaches
It is obvious to me now that the Warriors will never earn respect to most of the people associated with basketball (with some exceptions like J.A. Adande), and I wouldn't have it any other way. We'll get into the playoffs and pull off another upset, and all the other fans will be confused by the relationship between our team and our fans, and all the NBA referees will misinterpret our emotion as technical fouls, and all the league officials will hand down suspensions for actions that have already been punished, and all the coaches will not consider a Warrior for any postseason awards, and you know what? F*ck them. We don't need them to give us respect, we'll just take it from them.
no problem with roy
Question
I find it interesting because the way they do the votes easily leads itself to voting irregularities. For example, if some of the coaches felt that GS deserved one all-star but not two, then Jax might take away a vote or two. Also, Baron had a reputation as a coach killer, especially with Byron Scott, and NBA coaches stick together kind of like a fraternity, which might cost him a vote or two. I could certainly imagine that Scott himself might not have voted for Baron. Also, although it is not possible to vote for your own player, it is pretty obvious who the bubble boys will be, so it is pretty easy to just not vote for the guy that are going against your own player. Like for example if Nate didn't vote for Baron or David West it would increase Roy's all-star chances (not accusing Nate of this at all). I know all of these various situations probably didn't occur, but even if just one did, a vote or two can greatly affect the outcome when you're talking about a pool of 32 votes.
Basically I'm just thinking of various way this could have happened, because it is very obvious that Baron is more of an all-star than both Roy and West, just based on pure numbers. Definitely the other stuff talked about this thread like the Blazers and Hornets exceeding expectations come into play. But when that becomes a reason for how the coaches voted it doesn't sound like they're voting for all-stars anymore.
i dont think it matters
And IMO I think Jackson was snubbed too because hes been very valuable to the team.
And if you think Baron was snubbed, what about Marcus Camby? He leads the league in rebs and blocked shots but he didnt get in either.
by djchuckdeez on Jan 31, 2008 7:09 PM PST reply actions
comparing
+1
Dude had a triple double with blocks early in the season
I remember one game he logged 20pts/23reb/6pts/6blx
4 blocks + 14 reb/game?
ridiculous
Sup Big Perrrmm!.. i mean big worm
by Spree4Threee on Jan 31, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
I guess Nellie's "lobbying" didn't work
from http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/09/SP3DUBGFR.DTL
but my feeling is that the All Star game is all about glitz and money and has nothing to do with talent. I mean, c'mon, look how the voting was done. The Miss America pageant has a more fair and balanced way of voting than this joke of a "log in daily and vote" for weeks before the game. There's no "fairness" with that kind of voting - the whole thing is done just to get people to log into NBA.com because every time they do, T-Mobile, Haier, Lenovo and all their other paid advertisers get more visibility. It's all about MONEY, NOT talent. If it was truly an "all STAR" team, the players would be picked by their stats and not by anonymous fans nor by the coaches who are always going to pick their favorites regardless if there are others more deserving.
wow according to blazer's
"For me Davis, and their (Golden State's) record is not ours. Of course he's a had a pretty good year. But if you look at the numbers and you look at the record, which I think you should, nobody expected us to be here. But I don't think Baron should be in the running with what Brandon has done and what this team has done."
Wow that's grade A bullstuff
by The City Warjorz on Jan 31, 2008 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
based on that logic
It was already an insult to be the only winning team or team currently in a playoff spot to not have an all-star. What he says in that interview is just adding another slap in the face.
Whoa!
forreal?!?! That's worse than a slap in the face after what BD did last year in that playoff run...It's like yea that was nice but...
Seriously, the season is a little over half way done, we'll see come crucnch time who really are all stars. Time to separate the men from the boys. I can't wait until AS Weekend through.
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
for real
- Phoenix 33-13: Steve Nash, Stoudemire
- New Orleans 32-13: Chris Paul, Davis West
- Dallas 31-13: Dirk Nowitzki
- Utah 28-18: Carlos Boozer
- San Antonio 28-16: Tim Duncan
- LA Lakers: 28-16: Kobe Bryant
- Denver 27-18: Carmelo Anthony, Allan Iverson
- Golden State 28-19:
- Portland 26-19: Brandon Roy
- Houston 25-20: Yao Ming
The way it looks
bulletin board material
by PhilSmith on Jan 31, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
I'm really stunned by this
thats like saying
and i acually
to see all the .500+ western teams having an allstar, it just shows how the NBA can be so unfair. i guess making history being the first team to beat a first seed in the first round in 6 games doesnt get that big of respect nowadays. Roy is a phenominal player that will have a bright future and it seems incredible that he made the allstar team while only being in the league for a year and a half. very dissapointed that baron did not make it with the time he has left to acually be a part of the all star game.
Yo, this "NOT" ALL STAR GAME
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Basically
by RubberDubDubs on Jan 31, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
No.
by fryan on Jan 31, 2008 8:27 PM PST reply actions
funny thing is
IMO don nelson is doing a good job... CONTINUING our race for the playoffs...
All-Star game doesn't count in the standings
agree
by PhilSmith on Jan 31, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
A LEGACY OF DISRESPECT FROM THE LEAGUE
I can't wait to see the look in BD's eyes tommarow, he will be a powder keg ready to explode!
Run TMC on KICU 36
by RubberDubDubs on Feb 1, 2008 1:55 AM PST up reply actions

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