Hate over at Blazers Edge
If you haven't read, BE bloggers are mad and disgusted at GSoMers for all the trash talking going on in here about Roy making the All-Star over BD. They think that Warrior fans are all from Oakland and that we're classless. I'm not here to start anything but one Warrior fan(GSoM member I believe) spoke up about the hate on Warrior fans and Baron and he couldn't have said it any better.
http://www.blazersedge.com/story/2008/1/31/192039/101
Wow, this is...pathetic. Honestly, if you want to get mad at the GSOMers for being mad at Roy when they should be mad at the coaches, that is understandable, even though you should understand that most (not all) of us don't really hate Roy, just what he represents (a player with worse stats on a slightly worse team who gets picked over a Warrior for reasons other than basketball).
But GET OFF THE HIGH HORSE! Ooooh, look at us, we're Blazers fans, and here at Blazers Edge, we're just a little bit better than everyone else. Nevermind the fact that the way we talked about the Warriors fans and ourselves showed ZERO class (because Oakland is a really relevant point) and tons of arrogance and pretentiousness (here at Blazer's Edge, we don't swear, we just do other equally despicable things that aren't directly against the rules like uninformatively calling people thugs), just know that we would rather take shots at the Warriors fans than celebrate our man Roy! Nevermind that supposedly we were just as angry when Randolph was passed over, that's alright, because we didn't swear. Phew, thank god we can still have a false sense of entitlement!
I will address some of the arguments.
You are talking about Warriors and Blazers playing against each other? Why? There are still two games to go that aren't on your home court, and to judge a player's performance on two games rather than the season is selective and wrong. The fact is the overall records don't lie.
"Roy is a special player, but people outside of Portland don't see the things we do." You have to understand that the EXACT same could be said for Baron Davis. If you watched the playoffs last year you would understand.
"Baron Davis shoots at a percentage that is four points lower, and that translates into four extra shots."
Okay, but what do the 3 point, 2.5 assist, 2 steal advantages lead to? How many extra points over the season has Baron scored if he has 3 more per game than Roy?
Now this I don't know, but has Roy played every game? Because Baron has.
It's not that Roy hasn't done anything to deserve it, but he hasn't done anything to deserve it over Baron. Everything he has done, Baron has done, and Baron has done it better. I know he is your guy, but every stat he has, Baron is equal or above. Every clutch shot he's hit, Baron has hit a shot of equal or greater clutchness.
And this I do know, Baron is by far the superior defender, he is top two in the west (either him or Devin Harris).
Roy is my man, I liked him since his Washington days, I always thought he would be better than Robinson. But when he is picked over Baron for non-basketball reasons (certain coaches not liking Baron, the NBA not wanting Baron in New Orleans, the Trailblazers playing past expectations even though they still have a worse record than the Warriors, Roy being a very likable guy) of course we get mad. The disrespect has been coming for a long time now, and a lot of us are fed up with it.
Peace to jksnake, howlingfantods, mortimer, T Darkstar, pretty much anyone that doesn't have their heads shoved up the place that is forbidden to be mentioned on the almighty Blazer's Edge board. Good luck with your season.
by killercrossover on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:08:42 PM EDT
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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everyone should read
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=7200
read what the blazers coach says about the warriors and I think everyone can understand why there is so much animosity toward the Blazers right now.
by saintdee on Jan 31, 2008 8:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
He never stopped running!!!
by J2daZ on Jan 31, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what
by buky on Feb 1, 2008 4:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was me
by belilaugh on Jan 31, 2008 8:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
except I meant to say
by belilaugh on Jan 31, 2008 8:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I mean come on...
Bring on the BD Show!!!
by dajrichshow on Jan 31, 2008 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm stunned Nate said that
I think we should try to end this. The Blazers and Warriors have two of the best fan bases in the NBA. We shouldn't be calling each other out like this.
Baron is an allstar, whether the NBA says so or not. Most NBA fans realize this.
by jksnake99 on Jan 31, 2008 8:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%.
by danschmeck on Jan 31, 2008 8:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry...
Does he even watch warriors games? Does he not know that Baron literally picks everyone up, puts them on his shoulders and carries them to a win? I mean, look at the roster! Baron is almost single-handedly keeping this team out of the lottery.
by kinetic on Jan 31, 2008 9:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Clearly he hasn't
There's no excuse for what Nate said, and as a Blazer fan who's never heard him call out an opponent EVER, I'm really stunned and disappointed by it.
by jksnake99 on Jan 31, 2008 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time
by peteb24 on Jan 31, 2008 9:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think it was Sprewell
by nautica on Jan 31, 2008 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
do you
by buky on Feb 1, 2008 4:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not sure about the drought,
by RubberDubDubs on Feb 1, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
incredible
which makes it even more ironic that they're making fun of everyone in the bay area.
by antihero on Jan 31, 2008 9:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
hehehe
Some of them are real about it, some of them aren't.
First the individual who said that shouldn't have spoken regarding the whole. Because obviously, that is not true in most cases.
by RubberDubDubs on Feb 1, 2008 12:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
asdf
by J Rich 4 MVP on Jan 31, 2008 9:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
AMEN!
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 31, 2008 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agree
by PhilSmith on Jan 31, 2008 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do the Math....
I am honestly surprised that nobody else has touched on this. Whoever made this comment was incorrect.
Baron's percentage is lower because he gets a lot of his points from three pointers...in fact he makes more than twice as many threes as Roy per game AND shoots threes at a higher percentage than Roy (35.4 vs 33.8).
If you do the math: Roy is a shade over one "shot" more efficient than Davis. Remember that you have to weight the following:
- You have to look at effective field goal percentage because a guy who only shoots threes andshoots 33.33333 percent from downtown is the same as a guy like Monta Ellis who shoots roughly 50 percent. Effective FG % takes into account the threeball.
- Remember that Davis, though he takes more shots than Roy, also scores more points: only about 2 more points though (free throws are taken out of the equation).
Thus, Baron's slightly lower FG % is offset by his larger amount of steals.
Therefore: Baron and Roy are roughly equal in FG percentage and steals. So really, the only "major" category Roy is better than Davis in is FT %, though Davis attempts and makes more FT's than Roy.
I am dissapointed in the blogger from Blazer's Edge for making such an erroneous statement. I will represent GSoM as a first time poster (I mostly read the great articles here) and say that we are NOT thugs or "gangstas". In fact if anybody wants to have an intellectual conversation from Blazers Edge feel free to come to Cal (UC Berkeley).
Go Warriors!
Go Bears!
by calbears on Jan 31, 2008 11:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
BD should be an All-Star but...
by ghostridebaron on Jan 31, 2008 11:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
world against warriors
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 1, 2008 12:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow , cant believe what this guy just said........
by vietnameezboy on Feb 1, 2008 2:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
when did roy
by vietnameezboy on Feb 1, 2008 2:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Warriors Against The World!
by warriordean on Feb 1, 2008 4:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous
by buky on Feb 1, 2008 4:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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