Trade Realities
Mock Trades and rumors are fine for what they are, but most run afoul when they ignore basic realities of NBAeconomics. Most players have value, but this value is mitigated if not completely overshadowed by by contracts associated with the players.

The REAL trade value of your Warriors. Let's ignore Jax and Baron. They aren't going anywhere. Their value here is too high relative to their value to anyone else.
One nice thing about the trade situation the Warriors are in is that our TPE from Richardson means we can send out low dollar for high dollar, provided a player we get back is paid less than the TPE. This makes some things much, much easier to deal with.
So here's my assessment of the pieces we'd have to work with and the limitations surrounding each one.
Azubuike: It's hard to say what his value is. He's young and producing average to above average for his position. He isn't paid much (though next year he may be due for a raise up to but not exceeding the MLE) and can produce. He's a good buy for a team rebuilding, but is a good buy to keep as well.
Barnes and Pietrus: for both, value as a free agent wasn't terribly high and neither's doing much on court to change this. Both can help, at least in theory, but any team acquiring either will probably lose them at year's end. Both will be non-Bird, unrestricted FA's at year's if traded. Barnes is an unrestricted FA no matter what while Pietrus keeps his Bird rights if he's here, loses it elsewhere. Pietrus can also veto any trade. Their salaries are relatively modest, but could have some value as either rentals (though that seems unlikely) or as potential cap relief as expiring contracts. It's tough to see this bringing back much though as trading partners are limited by those conditions.
The POB: similar to Barnes and Pietrus, any team trading for him would be renting him since at year's end, he'll be a non-Bird FA. (I'm less clear about the "early-Bird" status on him, if any.) He'd be a rental for an expiring contract, but he's a rental of a player who doesn't get into games here. If he did show value, he'd be difficult to keep for anyone who had him.
Biedrins: There's no indication that he's being shopped, but he has real value as a player and a team getting him gets the rights to match offers for him for another year, so he could be part of any team's long term plans. I suspect he's a valuable commodity, as he's a valuable commodity here. Another team would have little problem finding parts to fit in his salary.
Ellis: similar to Biedrins, fitting in his salary is easy and he's potentially part of any team's long term plan. He's cheap for this season and a team would have the potential to keep him. I suspect combo-guards aren't really high on most team's building plan, but he could have value. He has value to us too, but if the Warriors are talking trade, his name will invariably come up.
Harrington: tough to tell. I think many have figured out that he's a power forward's body without the power forward's game, that he didn't make a bad team better in Atlanta and wasn't considered part of a long term plan in Indy either. His contract isn't easy to deal with (though not ultra terrible either). I suspect he goes only as part of a package with Ellis. No one is going to give us the dynamite 4 we need for him. No one.
Brandan Wright: an unknown. Still loaded with 'potential' but hasn't really played much. Part of any package potentially as his salary is still modest and he's potentially part of 'the future' here or elsewhere.
Belinelli: similar to Wright, but as a later pick and as a wing player, probably regarded with less 'potential.' Has done little to distinguish himself so far. Cap filler?
Everyone else is cap fodder.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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Stepping beyond economic rules, I think Barnes doesn't get dealt for off-court reasons. He is generally well-liked, I imagine, by the front office, and he was given a team captaincy. No doubt if we trade that helped were on the table to help the team, he could go...but we'd try to move Pietrus before Barnes.
But that's just a minor point that probably won't be a big issue.
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by OptionZero on
Jan 4, 2008 12:33 PM PST
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Additionally, I can't see anyone wanting
Considering his decline in peformance (FG/3pt%, Scoring + TO), I don't see anyone offering anything of value for him anyways.
I think Peitruis has more trade value, warrented or not, just based on the fact that there was some interest from other team/teams offseason.

by bloodsweatndonuts on
Jan 4, 2008 3:38 PM PST
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agreed
by Proof on
Jan 4, 2008 5:59 PM PST
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The reality is our only true trading piece is
The only team that looks like an interesting trade partner is Memphis and I think it would be nice to add Mike Miller. I know he doesn't answer the big man problem or the point guard problem but the guy can straight up shoot the ball (43% 3 point shooter!) and in our system he would be a great player to have and I could see memphis unloading him to get better draft position and flat out start over. A lineup with BD Miller Jackson Harrington and AB would be dynamic. Again this doesn't help any over our problem areas but there aren't really any trades out there that do. We aren't picking up a PF any time soon and there are a plethora of teams that need a back up point.
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by dallaswarrior on
Jan 4, 2008 3:50 PM PST
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i would love to get mike miller
by Proof on
Jan 4, 2008 6:01 PM PST
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Also, Miller's salary isn't too high its around
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by dallaswarrior on
Jan 4, 2008 3:58 PM PST
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Miller
I've said this before, but it bears repeating: the TPE isn't a thing that gets traded. It's space we have. Memphis may want to get out of the back end of Miller's contract, and he may be available on the cheap, but if that's the case, the 'filler' is going to be pick(s) as that's what a team looking to shed salary wants. And it's the picks that get traded, not the TPE.
by jae on
Jan 5, 2008 3:19 PM PST
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yo
by latvianlegendflex on
Jan 4, 2008 4:38 PM PST
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i like luke
He's sick, make it happen Mullin.
I pray i never have to use a gun again.
by ssmokinjoe on
Jan 5, 2008 2:13 AM PST
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Miller...
by Zack Vank on
Jan 4, 2008 6:07 PM PST
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Mike Miller
Ballin
by ballin on
Jan 4, 2008 7:20 PM PST
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I am just hoping we make a trade soon...
by celicadriven27 on
Jan 4, 2008 10:45 PM PST
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agree
I really hate to bring it up again, but I just have to. Biedrins isn't the rebounding/defending superstar we all think he is. He had a spectacular game for himself (something like 90% from the field?), but he let Tyson Chandler go something like 20points,20boards with 7 offensive boards. The number of rebounds Biedrins collects for himself on the stat sheet doesn't impress me, but what does bother me are all the offensive boards opposing big men get.
But yeah, gotta give it up to the Hornets. They're a solid squad, no doubt.
by jlagace on
Jan 5, 2008 1:52 AM PST
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TC
I pray i never have to use a gun again.
by ssmokinjoe on
Jan 5, 2008 2:19 AM PST
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2 obs from being at the game
TC got a lot of his boards when AB was out & Harrington was in
AB is not superman, but he's pulling more than his share of the load and there are plenty of other places to point the finger - like Baron, Jax, Monta (last night he was invisible) even Harrington didn't show up until it was too late
by hardcore on
Jan 5, 2008 10:53 AM PST
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Mike Miller is the 2nd best player on Grizz
by Elcold on
Jan 5, 2008 2:08 AM PST
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