OPEN THREAD: Game 35 - Spurs @ Warriors

Warriors (W-L): 19-15
Spurs (W-L): 23-9
TV: NBA TV, FSN Bay Area
Radio: KNBR 680
Using 8Monta's apt metaphor for the recent stormy weather in the bay to talk about the arrival of the CJ Watson, aka the Quiet Storm, I will then resignify that to talk about the Warriors 2 game skid, which is stormy as well. Lets hope the new personnel changes can give us a good nights sleep "between the sheets" after the game against the Spurs.
The Warriors are still searching for that elusive 20th win after getting exposed against two top tier teams of the Westcoast conference. The Hornets and Mavs games brought back memories, for me at least, of the the Warriors-Jazz playoff series, where it looked like a Junior Varsity team vs. the Varsity Squad. We don't need to rehash what's already been said, but these teams were just, in the words of Daft Punk, 'harder, better, faster, stronger.' And pretty much at all positions.
The Warriors are a crafty team that needs to learn to adjust and exploit team weakness; though, we've looked more like a one trick pony more than anything recently. Either that or we're regressing to the novelty of the NBA, where Nelson's game of defying basketball conventions that "size doesn't matter" (try telling that to the ladies...) is actually exposing some of our greatest weaknesses (size, muscle, and defense) than becoming a real advantage on either end of the floor.
The Spurs are coming full force, though somewhat wobbly, with Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili both suffering injuries in recent games. The Warriors did a solid job containing the Duncan-less Spurs last time they met. The keys to the game will be staying in front of Parker and keeping him out of the key. Lets hope Monta and Baron can keep up with him. A match-up on the court that will be worth checking out is who will get more flop calls: Monta or Manu?
This is the Warriors longest losing streak since opening up the season. Lets hope they put an end to this before it spirals out of control like the Warriors have the last two years around this 25-30 game mark.
Predictions:
* Warriors by 5
* Matt Bonner is FINALLY contained...only because he doesn't play since Duncan is back.
* Harrington continues to be offensively efficient: 21 points in ONLY 22 minutes of play.
* Brandan Wright plays 8 minutes
* Quiet Storm sings some smooth RNB at the end of the game, sending folks off feeling romantic. What a way to end a win!
Can the Warriors end their losing streak tonight? What are your thoughts? Let us know how you're feeling in the comments!
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This would be a huge win
by Chris Gatling on Jan 7, 2008 7:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was
By the way... Warriors by 4!
Great games from Baron and Al Harrington!
GO DUBS!!
F**K REFS!!!
by faetati on Jan 7, 2008 7:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm Pumped
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 7:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I live in SA
by gsw4life on Jan 7, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Qk start?
This isn't a make or break game, but it would be a great bounce back from the disappointing effort vs. the Hornet's at the Oracle.
Go Dubs.
by hardcore on Jan 7, 2008 7:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
uh oh -
by hardcore on Jan 7, 2008 7:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Barnes has been
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 7:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 7:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
and first mistake
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why isn't al 1st off the bench
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
duncan is already punishing us..
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 7:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the oracle scoreboard should spot the opp. 10pts
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 7:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
geez
by AJC3317 on Jan 7, 2008 7:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pietrus at PF
Nellie is senile man. Going small is only an advantage when we actually gain an advantage. If we're gonna suck while going small, maybe a solution is, i dunno, using our big men in whom our future depends?
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by OptionZero on Jan 7, 2008 8:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
what's nellies aversion to an al + ab lineup?
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 8:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ab
meanwhile jack and baron are given unfettered discretion to brick and hand the ball over
shoot me
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by OptionZero on Jan 7, 2008 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And the world finally figures out
Tony.psd = Da Man
http://adonalobsessed.blogspot.com/
by Zorgon on Jan 7, 2008 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is terrible
Tony.psd = Da Man
http://adonalobsessed.blogspot.com/
by Zorgon on Jan 7, 2008 8:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Jackson needs to be benched
by vdozens on Jan 7, 2008 8:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
what the fackk??
by GSwarrior on Jan 7, 2008 8:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the 5 that needs to be on the floor ...
by vdozens on Jan 7, 2008 8:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
davis
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 8:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
how bout that
by AJC3317 on Jan 7, 2008 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yes
by GSwarrior on Jan 7, 2008 8:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
nice
CJ Miles. From San Andreas to the Bay!
by tadams1080 on Jan 7, 2008 8:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
buke buke buke!!
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 8:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
tmnt's patemted and 1 hip push
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 8:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
great defense monta
by AJC3317 on Jan 7, 2008 8:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don[' mind Jack launching that 3
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
good sign
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 8:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Question for anyone:
Is it to make the Spurs move the ball around to open up steals?

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 7, 2008 8:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
habit maybe?
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope not

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 7, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
damnit jackson..
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 8:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
WOOW
by warrior510 on Jan 7, 2008 8:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
jack
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by OptionZero on Jan 7, 2008 8:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i love love love
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on Jan 7, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Jim: "Too long"
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 9:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 9:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
CJ Miles. From San Andreas to the Bay!
by tadams1080 on Jan 7, 2008 9:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Warriors
Gooooooo Warriors
by sloth11 on Jan 7, 2008 9:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
what
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 7, 2008 9:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Latvia playing some point?
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 9:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Does
by buky on Jan 7, 2008 9:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 7, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
CJ Miles. From San Andreas to the Bay!
by tadams1080 on Jan 7, 2008 9:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
to
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 7, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 7, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
capt jax doing his best THUD
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 9:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
let's go!
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!
by tadams1080 on Jan 7, 2008 9:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
man
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!
by tadams1080 on Jan 7, 2008 9:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Baron is a G
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 9:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow crazy
by vietnameezboy on Jan 7, 2008 9:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
unbelievable
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!
by tadams1080 on Jan 7, 2008 9:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The reason Baron is having such a night
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Know bashing on Pietrus
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 9:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nah
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 10:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
by AJC3317 on Jan 7, 2008 10:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They probably could
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 10:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hate Tony P
by jtoj on Jan 7, 2008 10:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
argh
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 7, 2008 10:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Overtime
Thunder!!!
by PHUT! on Jan 7, 2008 10:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Your last two posts
by sloth11 on Jan 7, 2008 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BUIKEE
by GSwarrior on Jan 7, 2008 10:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
THANK GOD THO
by GSwarrior on Jan 7, 2008 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man
by buky on Jan 7, 2008 10:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But he made 2 clutch ones
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 10:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
fuckn jax ...
by vdozens on Jan 7, 2008 10:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
nervous
this is getting crazy
BARON!!!!!!!!!!!
Thunder!!!
by PHUT! on Jan 7, 2008 10:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
YESSSS
Love these dubs
Who's your Dizzle?
by Fluid1 on Jan 7, 2008 10:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i remember last time.....
by vietnameezboy on Jan 7, 2008 10:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Make them free throws
I think this might be the defning moment of the season. Defeated the defending champs with Duncan healthy. A win at home, where the team has struggled. This is really good.
Thunder!!!
by PHUT! on Jan 7, 2008 10:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is it safe to say....
by WarriorForLife on Jan 7, 2008 10:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
great win
by AJC3317 on Jan 7, 2008 10:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My word.
by Sleepy Freud on Jan 7, 2008 10:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
in that case
straight g
by RC650 on Jan 7, 2008 10:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i am glad
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 10:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Damn, warriors games take a lot outta me...
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 10:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
great game
by antihero on Jan 7, 2008 10:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
THIS is true
by GSwarrior on Jan 7, 2008 10:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What a finish!
Jack
Pietrus
Beans
BOOOKKEEEE!
Wow!
by achiappanza on Jan 7, 2008 10:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Warriors!
The grit and never give up attitude that the Warriors showed in the 4th and OT was something we have not seen from a W's team since the 70's. Never give up, keep playing D. Wow.
One criticism that I need to say, "What is Pietrus doing at the end of regulation? You are up by 3 with 5 secs. left, a guy drives and you leave the man at the 3 pt line?" That could have been a crusher if it cost the W's the game. But I will say he hit some clutch shots and got some key rebounds in the 4th. But when will the boneheaded plays end?
by philsmith75 on Jan 7, 2008 10:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
When
by semarubaka on Jan 7, 2008 10:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
its all because of Alba..
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 10:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol hey
cool
NICE WIN
loved this game
by 8monta on Jan 7, 2008 10:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yup
by vietsta4o8 on Jan 7, 2008 10:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
3-3
kill the blazers this week and their ugly announcers. :P jk.
by jchao204 on Jan 7, 2008 10:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OMG!
OMG WTF BBQ! WHO WILL WE USE TO GUARD OTHER BIGS IN THE PLAYOFFS?!
WHY AREN'T WE UP AGAINST THE LUXURY TAX!
Wait, the Spurs have a great big man and a huge payroll and lost. Hrm. Maybe all that noise isn't really analysis at all, but just noise. It sounds just as bad when I type it as when other people type it.
Anyways, terrific game- i'd argue this was our finest game of the year overall, beating the best team in the league with a full roster. In overtime, no less.
Overall, the two big points to me:
Offensive efficiency. Winning the turnover battle against the Spurs is no mean feat; neither is shooting over 50% against the best defensive team in the L; we even WON THE BATTLE OF THE BOARDS
Defensive intensity. Again, winning the TO battle is both offense and defense for us. We closed out better and cleaned the glass, and were excellent against the pick and roll, even earning a few TO's while defending it. This will not show up in the box score, but Biedrins' feet and good teamwork took away alot of what the Spurs were trying to do.
Individual accolates:
Good lord, Biedrins stood tall against the best big man in the league, mostly in one on one coverage. He picked up fouls, but I can hardly fault him for getting beat a few times by Parker/Duncan's pick and roll (Again, they have rings for a reason...they are pretty good). Mostly AB stayed down, used his length to bother Duncan, and used his feet to stay in good position.
Defending Duncan AND getting rebounds...thats huge responsibility for one man, but Biedrins did it. Racking up 13/10 with 3 assists 2 steals and 2 blocks is a darn good all around line, but more important was his OVERALL EFFECT ON THE OFFENSE. The Warriors ran the pick and roll to death up high with Biedrins, and when he didn't get a bucket, he started sucking in 2, sometimes 3 defenders because he went to the proper spot with a hard cut and finished early. After a while, the rest of the Warriors had miles of space to operate after running the pick and roll because the Spurs were scrambling to recover.
I've been yammering about the high pick and roll forever now, and it feels darn good to be vindicated with a win in which we were committed to running it. The Suns do it with Amare and Nash, and it works. We did it and it reduced the amount of one v one we had to rely on and got us better shots.
See also the time he pushed the ball up court himself and found Azubuike for the easy bucket. Thank you and keep it up, big man.
(Poll: who thinks a guy who can do a pretty good job on Tim Duncan is worth drafting?)
(Poll 2: who thinks a guy who can do a pretty good job on Tim Duncan is worth re-signing?)
Second, Baron Davis was magnificent. Utterly magnificent. Very few forced shots, 9/10 from the line, zero turnovers, 14 assists, and he controlled the game by creating havoc in tandem with Biedrins, scoring when the opportunity presented itself (often). He also beat the league's premier perimeter defender not named Artest, blowing by Bowen with his speed and finishing against every Spur with his strahngth.
Third, Mickael Pietrus had the best game of the year- but he's still an idiot. He is, literally, the gift that keeps taking away. The box score seems quality- 13 and 6 on 5/9 shooting. Look again and u see 4 fouls in 16 minutes, and crucially for those watching the game, a blown assignment on the Parker corner 3p, where he left an open 3p shooter to watch a cutting man despite the Warriors holding the three point lead. Absolutely wretched team defense, fortunately Nellie sobered up and put Azubuike in shortly after the start of the OT. Note that Azubuike was covering that corner man on a later possession when the Spurs were still in striking distance. Team defense- pay attention to it. I will give Pietrus credit for a massive block on Duncan that was wiped away on a ticky tack call by the refs (though Pietrus asks for it with all his reaching). Overall his activity produced results, ut his stupidity canceled them out, which is probably the best we can hope for.
Fourth, Kelenna Azubuike is a godsend. He is an absolute stud. This isn't the first time he's been perfect from the field while taking a fair amount of shots- 7 of 7 for 16 points, and throw in 6 boards in in a mere 24 minutes. This dude needs to get 30+ MPG a game. Like Biedrins, he's just in the spot at the right time through good awareness and understanding, and that is absolutely essential to getting all the easy buckets and loose balls.
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by OptionZero on Jan 7, 2008 10:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game...
by Zack Vank on Jan 8, 2008 12:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
3 point lead with time running out, you stay home and invite any lay up the other team wants. Even if he got near the driving Spur, he probably would have fouled, leading to a potential game tying 3p play.
He should not be in in crunch time.
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by OptionZero on Jan 8, 2008 1:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its a shame buke isn't getting paid
by saintdee on Jan 7, 2008 10:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Buike
GO WARRIORS (popping the collar)
by warrior510 on Jan 7, 2008 11:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
manu flopped
nice W!
by solewarrior on Jan 7, 2008 11:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cap'n Jack
(Lest Jack and Pietrus get lumped into one category--they giveth, they taketh away; they do dazzling, they do stupid, same diff--consider the impact each has on team defense.)
Then, also not to be overlooked, perfect free throw shooting and 4 of 11 from three, most of it late in the game when it had to fall or else we fall. You get the good and the bad together with Jack, and there's not much use wishing or pleading or hollering for him to be more sensible, take fewer shots, and so on. His brickery was essential to our faltering first quarter; his steadiness essential to our victorious OT.
by mikej on Jan 7, 2008 11:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
world shockers!!!
shock the world # 3: warriors win the championship!!!
whoooooooooooo
yay speculation based on a game
by singha on Jan 7, 2008 11:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I swear.
Good win, Dubs. Happy Days.
by WhiteElephantGuy on Jan 7, 2008 11:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
LAW of AVERAGES
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on Jan 7, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol
by WarriorForLife on Jan 8, 2008 12:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2-0 against the Spurs!
The best part was that Duncan was healthy and got his usual 20-30 points, Ginobli same and even Parker went off, but we won bc we hustled harder and were more clutch.
by blahblah on Jan 8, 2008 12:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If we beat a healthy Spurs team
by racsan on Jan 8, 2008 12:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Monta?
by Dopey on Jan 8, 2008 12:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
ellis IQ
Stpeping in front of Duncan that deep is a dumb decision and lead to the worst possible result, and yes, he blew the coverage multiple times on defense.
Team defense is understanding the scheme and what you want to deny and also awareness of what the opponent wants to do on a given play. All the speed in the world, which he purportedly has, is not as fast as the speed of a good thought. Not even Ellis can out run the neurons of smarter opponents.
The pick and roll defense, however, I don't think is necessarily his fault. The coaches dicatate pick and role defensive philosophy. Nellie's said multiple times he wants to "blitz" the pick and roll, which is an aggressive plan. The guard goes over and the big man jump in front. The goal is for the big man to stop penetration, force the opposing guard to stop and (hopefully) reverse direction. In that time, the defending small (Ellis) is supposed to get around the screen and either get back in front or trap the offensive guard to force a TO or at least severely disrupt the offensive team's flow.
Ellis seems half-hearted or lost when he's forced to be the guy on an island up top. It's not his fault he's going over, but I don't think he understands the goal of the blitz, or is just really bad at executing it. He will overpursue while taking a bad angle, so even if he gets around the pick (easy with his speed), and vaguely in front of the opposing guard, his feet are out of position and his momentum is carrying him too far in one direction. The opposing guard easy blows by, leaving Biedrins blitzing nothing, Ellis in the dust, and 5 on 3 for the rest of the team. Thats how u end up with wide open shots for the other team.
Watch Baron defend the pick and roll- he makes sure he tells Biedrins or any of our bigs what to do, directs them to the right spot on the floor. H e'll cheat early and ahead of the opposing screener so he can get around it without giving up position- or even if he gets beat, forcing the opposing guard where help is waiting. That is good defense and comes with experience, but what makes Baron good is that he understands what he needs to do to h elp the rest of his teammates on defense.
No doubt going to college and playing in a more complex team defense would have helped Ellis, but alas, it is too late and all we can do is hope he picks it up eventually.
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by OptionZero on Jan 8, 2008 1:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
First, the reference to Baron and Jack getting stupid had to do with their shot selection (and Jack arguing calls futilely)
Second, the Ellis pick and roll defense...choosing to go over the top is not his fault, how he does it is.
Just clarifying for anyone that bothers to read my jumble of text.
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by OptionZero on Jan 8, 2008 1:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nah
straight g
by RC650 on Jan 8, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Regular season
But awesome win last night. Can't wait to see what CJ Watson brings to the table.
by ViveAirFrance on Jan 8, 2008 10:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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