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Warriors vs Bucks in China

Milwaukee Bucks at Golden State Warriors, Oct 15, 2008 5:00 AM PDT


Update by Fantasy Junkie: I am an idiot. Yi was traded to the Nets this offseason and yet I still think he's on the Bucks. Oh well. I'll leave it up. Just pretend that it's Richard Jefferson in the photo and it's a homecoming for him because he's really Chinese. I guess it's still the preseason for my preview skills.

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Warriors (W-L): 2-1
Bucks (W-L): 0-4
Time: 5:00am PST
TV: ESPN Classic, ESPN 360 webcast
Radio: None

The Warriors kick off their two game road trip to Guangzhou, China to face the Milwaukee Bucks. Hopefully players from both teams take advantage of this trip and take some time to learn about a different culture. Given the time constraints though, it'll be hard to take in a whole lot. At the very least, Monta should learn how to ride a moped from the people in Guangzhou.

Anyways, It's a homecoming for the Bucks' Yi Jianlian. He should be excited to once again be playing in front of his home crowd. I wonder how many people are wearing his Nike Hyperdunks.

If you want to watch the game, you'll have to get up early. Game starts at 5am and will be broadcast on ESPN 360 webcast. For those who prefer to not watch the game, enjoy those ZZZZZ's.

Predictions

  • Warriors win by 16
  • Yi Jianlian wishes Mullin and Nelson traded up to get him instead of BWright. Yi makes Mullin and Nelson wish they had too.
  • Bucks regret hiring Scott Skiles.

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please correct me if i’m wrong, but isn’t yi on the nets now??

by pietrusandcreme on Oct 14, 2008 9:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m an idiot

  only if you can’t figure out how to edit this post to fix it!

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 14, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but isn’t yi on the nets now??

  Apparently he’s sneaking back to china to play for the bucks?

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 14, 2008 9:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

argh

so much for me paying attention during the offseason to trades and such

by Fantasy Junkie on Oct 14, 2008 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he is

he was traded along with bobby simmons to the nets for richard jefferson.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/news/story?id=3462210

by t1andonlywall on Oct 14, 2008 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good one! :)

This was the most frustrating post during the offseason – Yi from Bucks to Nets and then back to Bucks.. :) I was totally speachless. However, it’s early morning here and I can say, that you made my day FJ ! :)
P.S. No sarcasm!

I'm dunking, when I'm high...

by Pokoloko on Oct 14, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's ok, FJ.

Everyone makes a Mullin-esque mistake every once in a while. It happens to all of us.

I’m gonna see if I can record the game on my DVR, to watch later on in the day when I get home.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Oct 14, 2008 10:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you dont even have to record it, its going to replay at 6pm on espn2

by dasilo44 on Oct 14, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dvring it...

since 6pm has other stuff I watch, so I can watch in during the day.

by mosdl on Oct 14, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I know

But I usually get home around 4pm and i’d rather watch it at that time, instead of waiting 2 hours for the 6pm replay. Plus, the Presidential Debate is on at 6 as well.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Oct 15, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yi.

Yi hasn’t even looked all that impressive so far, looks like role player at best so I don’t get all of the hype. There is a reason why Mully/Nelson shot down the Yi rumors over the summer because frankly he isn’t all that good. I’ll take Brandan Wright anyday…

Go Warriors!

by Jagz8 on Oct 14, 2008 11:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ye!

nice work tony! man the warriors should hire to make new jersey designs now that we cant really have the lighting bolt anymore.

by lowchi on Oct 15, 2008 1:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

.......................

good morning warrior fans….i dont think ive ever been up this early ever…..“straddle position” at 4:53 a.m.??

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 4:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

is the game streaming free online, besides espn 360?

i don’t have classic, either, on the tv, but am looking forward to viewing the game if possible

by steelekord on Oct 15, 2008 4:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

any

news on joe alexander?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 4:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

belli

starting!

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

maggette

to the line already!

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hell Yeah...

I wanna see Magss do that all year!

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

belli

in and out

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ws

layin the bricks early

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Low Post

I’m lookin for some Low Post D from these guys, Bogut is a good challenge

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf

mags taking 2 outside shots already

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I dont like the shot selections, or rather the fact were just not hittin them.

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Morning guys

you guys are either in another time zone, sleep at insane times, or are true Warrior fans

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 15, 2008 5:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL...

Nope, just set my alarm to 5am, didn’t get to bed till 12:30am, and workin @ 8am! My roomates think I’m crazy!

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thank god

my wife had to leave early for work today otherwise i wont be up till 10

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

kareem

is with the bucks?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep....

I think that’s why Bogut improved so much last year

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i thought

he was working with bynum?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Poster!

Come on Ronny..better D, at least Mags tryin to get to the line.

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

maggette throws his arms up to get to the line

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok

if al cant stop villanueva in the post were in trouble

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait...

I think your right. I just remember seein him last year and thinkin, ok…that center is gonna be better.

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At least we still look disruptive on D....

quick to the ball, getting in the passing lanes and getting some deflections.

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

al

getting used on both ends

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

bwright in

al out ty

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Kaz look active

Attacking the rim…hittin his shot.. Al’s shot is off

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mags keep tryin to get the foul...

even if he’s floppin a little..lol

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok

legler doesnt help the fact that this game is at 5am…..cant they get someone else to wake up this early?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No kiddin..

I’ll take Tommy T

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

CJ!!!

Nice pick….and B-Wright defend Bogut? I like seein that.

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Espn retarded?

Or the people running the scoreboard in China, because they have the score messed up

by pbra17 on Oct 15, 2008 5:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wright

nice streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

brandon

lost on d

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

we just had a 7 point play hahahahaha score is now fixed

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yep, but Ronny sure isn't...

he’s got a couple blocks already

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally they fixed the score

these num-nuts announcers have no clue whats going on

by pbra17 on Oct 15, 2008 5:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh woah!

I dind’t notice the score being that off….Ronny with another one!

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok

do i like turiaf yet?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

mags

and one!

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The announcer are just rambling

They aren’t really doing a play by play, it’s like have 2 color commentators.

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

thats what happens when they have them in the studios instead of the actual game

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldnt they get the NBA TV

Fantasy basketball guru guy to do the announcing like in the olympics. And anyone to replace Legler….at least Greg Anthony isnt announcing too, or else I might have to watch this game on mute.

by pbra17 on Oct 15, 2008 5:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

kurz

is the white adonal foyle

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Adonal could never do that!

a nice little 18 footer by Kurz

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok

so i guess were cutting morrow

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

CJ

Shoots like an old man in the rec league, kinda looks like one too

by pbra17 on Oct 15, 2008 5:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we are

1-100 in mid range/3 pointers

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

CJ looks sharp though

Good anticipation on the ball movement, and the box of Elson was nice too…his in game IQ seems improved from last year

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

we need jj reddick…the greatest shooter in nba history

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hell yeah...

Or we could just have the whole team watch “Better Basketball”…lol

by esco41510 on Oct 15, 2008 5:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

the announcers dont know who made the 3 for the bucks…i dont either hahaaha

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

for those needing stream

if u are like me and have terrible comcast :< go to channelsurfing.net for the game hope u dont mind chinese :O

by uckhamz on Oct 15, 2008 5:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Its probably

Better announcing than on Espn

by pbra17 on Oct 15, 2008 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

morrow and kurz

probably gone after these 2 games….dickau to be released when monta gets back.

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Brandan Wright

Making Francisco Ellison look like Tim Duncan since 2007

by pinkycheal on Oct 15, 2008 5:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

kurz

might be our custodian 2.0

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

randolph

with the pietrus two-step

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rob Kurz

Hoping Memphis is watching and will give him 30 mil or so…

by pinkycheal on Oct 15, 2008 5:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

have

we made an outside shot except for kurz?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

theres

one

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 5:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Morrow is making a case to stay on this team, I think we end up keeping him over Dickau, at least I think we should

by pbra17 on Oct 15, 2008 6:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Morrow

Before he hits his first 3- drop him… wont last past friday on the roster
Hits his first one after missing 4 shots- keep him!! next reggie miller!!

by pinkycheal on Oct 15, 2008 6:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

morrow’s gone

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 6:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was the worst half of play-by-play I have ever heard.

I don’t care if they are doing it remotely from Bristol, it’s like they’re not even watching the TV feed.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 15, 2008 6:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i can

actually hear legler’s coffeemaker buzzing in the background

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 6:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is like a spring training split squad game

minus guys running laps in right field between innings

by pinkycheal on Oct 15, 2008 6:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and minus the innings, and the split squad and right field and the baseball . . . .

I know what you mean though.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 15, 2008 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad we don't have

regular season games in China. The time difference would be a killer.

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 15, 2008 6:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

al

cant stop cv

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 6:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

there is

10:520 minutes remaining in the 3rd

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 6:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

demarcus

nice move

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 6:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anthony

HOLD on to da ball…

by marzorg on Oct 15, 2008 6:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

randolph

again with the pietrus 2 step

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 6:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Randolph is invisible on defense

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 15, 2008 6:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Buke

Has come out hot and stayed hot…why not have him in the point guard race??!!

by marzorg on Oct 15, 2008 6:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

damnit...

i slept through my alarm.

by DuikeBuike on Oct 15, 2008 6:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

is

laptop williams injured?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 6:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lmao

azubuike with the alley oop to kurz??

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 7:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

bogut

MIP

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 7:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

kurz

gone

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 7:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pat Burke 2.0

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 15, 2008 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

so were gonna lose this?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 7:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf

bellinelli at center?

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 7:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thats

it…..we’re done…..12 win season….

warriors dont fish they hunt!

by VonteegoCummings on Oct 15, 2008 7:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We lost to the Bucks

and I saw the sun come up. What a way to start the day.

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 15, 2008 7:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What did we learn from this game?

If you play Kurz more than 20 minutes, YOU WILL LOSE!!!

CJ- Just doesnt have the dominance or court presence
Morrow- Still lost out there, but a good shooter
Bukie- Man among boys
Wright- Needs to take a breath out there, head not in it, all physical ability

AND THAT WAS OUR STARTING 5 TO END THE GAME against the Bucs starting 5 with Ridenour Bogut and Alexander (who caught fire) at the end of the game. Im not discouraged, I would have hoped our bench could have cleaned up a bit better and shown a bit more poise. It was like a pick up game out there… CJ with the bad drive to end it (not his game) and Morrow shooting WAY too quick on that shot (really?? running pull up with 6 seconds to go? WOW…. have fun on the bench buddy)

Wierd lineup for Nelly all game with the half squad mentality, not giving a lot of guys who need to show playing time (Marcus, Dicau) more playing time. I can understand why he pulled Randolph (did never recover from the travel schedule).

And btw… thanks for showing up Marco. 0-6 tonight… niiiiiiice

by pinkycheal on Oct 15, 2008 7:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tonight?

You mean this morning. YAWN

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 15, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops. I didn’t know that putting a * before and after a word formats as bold text.

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 15, 2008 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did we actaully have more points?

At least it doesn’t count. But early in the 4th the Warriors made a shot and there score didnt go up. I believe they added the points to the Bucks score instead. A couple mins later they add a couple points to warriors score out of no where. They actually kept going up and down with their total for a little bit and decide on just adding two points to the Warriors total. But they didn’t take any away from the Bucks. Then a couple mins later, the Warriors again make a basket and they don’t add the points to the Warriors score again.

by The Golden One on Oct 15, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Then a couple mins later, the Warriors again make a basket and they don’t add the points to the Warriors score again.

  I guess they were pissed at the warriors for not drafting Yi?

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 15, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This was the only time

Warriors games are broadcasted for me at a convenient primetime slot (game started at 9-ish) and probably one of the rare occasions that Basketball TV here in the Philippines puts out Warriors games. Most of the time I’m in school when it’s live so I always catch reruns of games which I already know the outcome to. So naturally, after being away from the Bay for a year, I was damn excited to finally see how the new rotations/experimentations Nellie would throw out in action.

I’ve just been reading this blog, and more so now that I’m away from home for college. I was never a bandwagoner with the Warriors, I had actually gotten into Warriors basketball during the old Run TMC days, but moved on to idolizing Michael Jordan as any normal 8 year old did. Especially with Space Jam. Anywho, I’ve been following the Warriors two seasons before We Believe season started. Anywho, I decided it’s about time I start posting stuff up. I’m just kinda pissed about today’s game and wanted to talk about it.

Kurz played 20 minutes with 1-6 shooting, but I guess having the most rebounds (8) for the team that night could be something? No. Not really for me. Buike put up 7 rebs and 24 points. Nice. And what’s up with Belinelli? 0-6 shooting? DeMarcus if I think I heard correctly, tried to play the point for a little in the 4th, guess it didn’t go to well. I went to high school with him in Vallejo, but I only knew of him, haha.

Probably the only positive side to this game is the fact that Jax, Biedrins, and Williams didn’t play, Harrington got 12 minutes in, and Magette only 20 meant that a starting lineup of a good mix of bench strength were able to hold their ground, at least for a little while. I think Nellie is gonna start those three next game and bench Kurz, Dickau, and Hendrix the whole night. Next game Warriors will definitely win by 16 or more. Biedrins is gonna kill Bogut.

by in_the_city on Oct 15, 2008 11:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

somehow i think

inexplicably traveling across the world to entertain a group of foreign fans isn’t conducive to good basketball

by steelekord on Oct 15, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What this game proves is if we play all of our back up agianst their starters we will lose.

If we wanted to wint he game Nellie would have played our best players and we would have won going away. Look at the minutes the Bucks played their starters? Hell they must have thought it was regular season game. We are the better team no doubt about it.

by smearthebeard on Oct 15, 2008 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a terrible call by the refs at the end of the game

that shouldve been a 3 point play by watson or at least a no call.

The Time Is Now! Win Warriors Win!

by ballin on Oct 15, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

impressions

I watched the first half so far, and had a couple of thoughts. Demarcus Nelson had a rough start to the game, but seems to be a very good defender, at least better than we are used to having at the point guard. I think having he and CJ as point guard will work fine. I actually thought CJ Watson did a good job running the offense, and pushing the ball up the court even though he struggled offensively. Azuibuke is still a stud. He is great at knifing into the lane, and the game seems to come easy to him. Maggette gets to the line, even if he flops. I like having him and Buke in the game together, it makes us a stronger more athletic team.

by bayareaballa on Oct 15, 2008 4:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I swear I think the score keepers got this wrong

Is it me? Or did I see the score not update when it should have and they gave the Bucks a point when it should have been ours.

by bojangles408 on Oct 15, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hello???

It’s replay right now, but is anyone else watching it on ESPN2 right now?

by Golden Boy on Oct 15, 2008 6:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i am

Tim Legler gets me so weak haha

I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters.

by Baked Biedrins on Oct 15, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So did anyone notice

When Azubuike just made those two free throws a minute ago, they added the points to the Bucks score and not the Warriors??

by The Golden One on Oct 15, 2008 7:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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