Not to be a negative… but of our team is like 10th place 1/2 way through the season we should go after Bibby and trade Harrington and Jackson. I tried it on the trade machine and it works out. Especially since the hawks might go for it if they want to make some type of playoff run (they were usually around 8th place). Then we have an expiring contract in Mike Bibby, we solve our point guard situation by default (assuming monta doesn’t come back to early), and nelson might be willing to play some of our younger players then (if we don’t have any chance of making the playoffs).

Hell no on this trade.How is he going to move his fat overweight frame in Nelson’s run and gun system??! David Lee YES !!
Mike Bibby is past his prime,leave him in Atlanta.

if we want to trade harrington than obviously we don’t think he is a player that is going to make a difference. who cares if he goes to a rival. besides…..rivals for what? 9th place? 10th place? i think we should care more bout a trade that makes us better and not worry bout how it makes another team.

West
Lakers
Hornets
Utah
Houston
Warriors
Spurs
Suns
Mavs

Trade Al for Baron…. do it

is looking to get rid of Wilcox. I think they would go for Al

I was going to make a sarcastic comment about trading Harrington for Curry a couple days ago, but I deleted it hoping that it doesn’t really happen.

=X

if there was a good trade out there for Harrington it would have happened over the summer. Curry sucks and David Lee is far too valuable as a young talent for NY to let go off unless we’re talking about some other pieces. I’m still thinking Memphis has a glut of PG’s, one of whom might be our “answer” to the question of who wants Al.

The idea that we don’t want to trade in-conference is ridiculous. It’s AL HARRINGTON. I love the guy, but he ain’t getting anybody closer to a championship, and other than maybe Phoenix, I’m not seeing the Western power that could sign a superstar in ‘10 just because Al expires then. We’re in a low-leverage situation… we should remain open to any offers we get.

It’s an interesting situation, as a couple things have changed since Al trade discussions in the summer. There’s the Monta injury, but I don’t necessarily think that should factor into our thinking… the next 25 games aren’t THAT important, in the scheme of things. The bigger things are the Nellie extension and the sense that Jax is going to be extended. Those have real implications on our future, in that:

1) We only have meaningful cap space in the summer of 2010 if we don’t resign Al OR Jax, and in light of the Rowell/Jackson friendship, that seems pretty unlikely. A million teams are desperate to clear cap space for ‘10, and most of them have better head starts than we do; it’s not a race we’re likely to win. As a result, I think we should look for good players with longer contracts that teams are trying to dump. We’re not gonna compete in the ‘10 FA market, so we might as well try to create a bidding war for the teams that want to. I think teams may be overly desperate to compete for Lebron et al… that’s a market inefficiency we can exploit.

2) Any player we acquire is going to play under Nellie for two-plus seasons. We can’t acquire anybody who doesn’t fit his style.

By both standards, Curry’s a no — not that good, not Nellie-friendly. Hinrich would be a good fit, but I agree that that’s probably a stretch, as the Bulls seem smart enough to realize he’s still useful to them. As much as the Pistons seem to want to shake things up, I don’t think an Al package comes close to landing us Rasheed or Chauncey. J-Rich would make sense in some ways, and would be hilarious, to boot, but the Bobcats’ hole at SG would be too big for them to stomach.

A trade we should at least consider — hear me out — is Al, Marco and Randolph for Vince Carter.

Yeah, Vince is 31. Yeah, his contract is horrible. Yeah, he doesn’t play defense and is kind of a boner. Yeah, getting everybody minutes might be an issue.

But look at what we’d be giving up and look what we’d be getting. Al’s more of a malcontent than Vince and, to boot, doesn’t help us. Marco is — let’s be honest — probably never going to be a good NBA player. Randolph might be a good NBA player someday, but he very well might not… he could be T-Mac, he could be Darius Miles.

We’d essentially be trading Randolph’s potential and some not-that-useful cap space for a guy who is still, by any metric you look at, one of the top 25-30 players in the league. Our team would then look like this.

Guards: Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson, Kelenna Azubuike, C.J. Watson
Forwards: Corey Maggette, Vince Carter, Brandan Wright
Centers: Andris Biedrins, Ronny Turiaf

You basically have two working lineups: Monta/Jax/Vince/Maggette/Biedrins for small-ball, Monta/Jax/Maggette-or-Vince/Wright/Biedrins for a more traditional look. There’s an EXHAUSTING amount of scoring skill on that team, and given Al’s weaknesses, our rebounding and defense wouldn’t be any worse. VC is even a 5-assist-a-game guy now, so it’d help our playmaking.

Would the Nets do this? In a HEARTBEAT. They are all about Lebron and so is their fanbase… with Vince gone, they have a clean shot at him. If we could make the numbers work another, they might not even require Randolph in the deal.

I’m not saying we should definitely do this trade. I’m not convinced myself. I don’t like Vince Carter.

But we should at least take ideas like this seriously. Worrying about cap space in 2010 is a fool’s errand — this could be an interesting opportunity to upgrade our talent level.

we need someone whos going to PLAY, not some guy with potential.

We get someone with some inside talent> We have more than enough 3 point threats.

Why not go after Chris Wilcox, Jason Maxiell, David Lee, Lamar Odom.

I would agree that Wright and Randolph both deserve playing time and we can easily fit them in. We could even have hendrix get in there if he is healthy and bangin. We have a lot of options but one thing is for sure is we need to stay away from a bad trade.

I am in no hurry to have Curry, Marbury, James Jones, Birdman, or any other aging crappy player

Al, Marco, Macrus Williams → Lamar Odom

or Harrington, Bellinelli -—> Billups, it’s only a matter of time until the pis unload chauncey and solidify Stuckey’s role as a starter while, getting rid of billups’ hefty contract. The warriors get a all star point guard until the return of Moped and than you play Monta has the natural 2 gaurd spot.

By January-

1-billups
2-ellis
3-jackson
4-maggette
5-biedrins

Azuibuike
Turiaf
Wright
Nelson
Watson
Randolph

Thats a playoff squad in the West

It just seems like a lot of these suggestions don’t quite fit the mold of this team. We want players who run who can also contribute for 3+ years. This is why Curry, Morrison, even Billups, aren’t great options.

The Warriors should try to become the FASTEST and MOST ATHLETIC team in the NBA. Why not take a run for Barbosa and Diaw? The Suns are transitioning systems with a new coach and are on the verge of a youth movement. We should send them Al, Wright, and Belo to get Barbosa and Diaw.

While I would love to get a pure PG, I’m still not convinced that one is needed in Nelson’s system. All that matters is that you have guys that can push the ball up court, drive, and kick to the perimeter for the 3. We can’t let Jackson go because he is the perfect compliment to our slashers (Maggette and Ellis). So why not add Barbosa? a guy who can play some point, get to the hoop, and shoot the 3? It makes too much sense!!!!

Can you imagine how fast and fun the Dubs would be with Jackson at the helm of a team including Barbosa, Ellis, Maggette, Biedrins, Diaw, Buike, Turiaf and Randolph? In this NINE PLAYER ROTATION we would have the perfect mix of size and speed. We would dominate.

These aren’t elite players. Or at least, they’re players that would barely make Nelly’s rotation. Barbosa is a stud. Widely considered one of the three fastest players in the league (Iverson and Ellis being the other two). He would be averaging 20 a game if he wasn’t playing behind the best PG in the league the last five years. Diaw averaged 13 ppg, 7 bpg, and 6 apg in 2006. Ridiculous line. Both players can run and both play multiple positions: Barbosa (1, 2) Diaw (4, 5). Plus, both could use a change of scenery, especially given Porter’s arrival in Phoenix and his half-court tendencies as a coach. We should do this!!!!

no he’s not elite. But he is in Nelly’s rotation so we might as well get players back who can be in the rotations. Plus, he has a much better reputation nationwide than in Oakland. No, he’s not going to bring us good players on his own. That’s why in a Harrington, Wright, Belo package, Wright is probably the biggest asset in the deal.

I was keeping in mind we want to trade with east coast teams. Draft picks have to be considered.

Detroit
Tayshaun for AL straight up
Rasheed (1 year left) for AL BWright and Marco

Philly
AL and BWright for Dalembert (3 years left) and Thaddeus Young(2 years). Maybe without Young. Draft picks?

Orlando(I like this one, so would Nellie)
AL for Turkoglu and BCook. Small ball! Corey and Hedo switch at the 4. Orlando gets size and maintains a 3pt shooter.

Thoughts?

Tayshaun has 3 years left.

Hedo 2.

Cook 1.

My perspective:

1. I dont think the Warriors are looking to pick up a long term contract. Al is essentially an expiring contract, so teams are gonna see him as possible salary dump while doing us a favor. however we would be silly to take on a long term contract (i.e. Diaw, Billups, Hinrich) without getting a super deal.
——> Management will NEVER go into the luxury tax threshold.

2. We’re gonna get someone that can score or if not play D. Our fast pace requires a person that can create shots and score, Nellie would not want to limit his scoring options to three players. Any new players will have to be good at skills in which we lack (PG, Boards, D) or be a big time scorer.

3. No unfit, injury prone, or egotastic players.

4. If no good options come about, I can truly see management not making any moves and letting Al just opt out next year. I feel they would rather see Al walk than pick up anything they might regret.

Charlie Villanueva! He’s worth looking at.

is going to get messy, because no one wants/needs a big man of Al’s capabilities. Look he is WAY WAY WAY in over his head on this one.

He is not good enough to demand a trade. lol.

The boy couldnt make his free throws nor come through in the clutch… twice.

Just to add.

If this trade happens, by Mullin you can officialy direct your hate straight at the Flat Top from New York.

So the Knicks are not considering trading David Lee whatsoever? Cause I like that trade better than anything and I think it is more realistic than guys like Odom, and I don’t think Boozer is gonna bail on the jazz (even though he did bail on the cavs). But David Lee is perfect cause we don’t need a scorer really but a guy like him who is pretty athletic and gets a lot of boards but still gives you 12 or so points a game along with 10 boards. We get enough scoring from jack, maggette and even buike right now and then once monta is back.

Hedo and BCook would be great if Orlando would do this. Plus Cook has one year at mil (and Andonal comes off the cap) and Hedo has 2 at roughly 7 mil.

Tayshaun for AL straight up is also sweet if Detroit was down. They would have a tall 3.

Both of those trades are better than aquiring Diaw Lee or Nocioni. Who’s been up on ESPN’s hype?

The only trade I like besides those two that was talked about would be us aquiring AK and Sergio Rodriguez although I dont think Portland would do it for Marco and BWright when they already have a loaded young front court.

Also aquiring Dalembert and Thaddeus young would be interesting, but I dont know if Philly does it

more realistic option than most here, I like Marvin Williams and speedy can play some(more than marcus) until monta shows up

+ Marco(maybe Marcus too) For Rudy Gay or Jrich!

This 3 way works: Al (and maybe a 2nd round pick?) to Thunder
                                  Wilcox and Felton to Warriors
                                  Bellinelli, MWilliams and DJ White to Bobcats

The Bobcats could cut Andre Brown and Linton Johnson to open roster spots.

Trade Al – expiring contract at $9m for Mike Miller – expiring contract at $ 9m. Warriors get a proven 3-point shooter and All-Star. Hey Bobby and Mully – go ahead and pull the trigger. You got my blessings.

GAY Movement!

Hinrich from Chicago

Al, Marco and Bwright for Michael Redd works with the numbers. Any way the bucks do that? Gives them some flexibility financially and a couple players with some potential. I assume they probably could get something better for Redd, but thats not that bad of an offer IMO and I think it could make us a potential playoff team.
My second choice is something with the bobcats. I could see harrington appealing to them, he could help them, and larry brown has been out of the league long enough so that he doesnt realize Al is not that good. Felton has not shot well to begin the season and augustin is getting pretty good minutes, albeit theyve only played two games this year. Felton morrison for al/marcus, or al/marco would be pretty favorable to us imo.
Basically, ive just really had it with harrington, and ill tell you the c.j/demarcus point guard combo is not really thrilling me.