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Player Recaps and Predictions: Monta Ellis

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Before we roll into the upcoming regular season, let's take a look back at this current roster with a recap of their previous season (except for the rookies) and a prediction of what's coming up. We'll do this alphabetically starting with Azubuike and ending with Wright.

6 years, $66 million, 1 stupid decision, 1 big lie, 1 more season down the drain.

I'm still mad at Monta so I'm not going to let up on Monta as a liar, Monta as Pinocchio and Nellie as Geppetto? He should be punished not only for lying, but for doing something that was illegal in his contract. If the Warriors don't make the playoffs this year, one big reason will be that moped.

Before he even had a chance to step on the court to show that he could be The Man, Monta reminded us all that he's still not ready to be the #1 guy, he's still way too immature and needs to grow up.

Hit the jump for the recap and prediction. Leave your thoughts, grades, and predictions in the comments.

 

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2007-2008 Season Recap
Grade: A-

He had a great year, no doubt about it. He broke out. He went from sitting on the bench behind Kelenna Azubuike at the start of the season to playing 40+ minutes a night and being virtually unguardable. He conjured up all kinds of nicknames, Mississippi Bullet, Montazing, and my favorite, One Man Fast Break. Check out the February stat lines: 40mpg, 26ppg, 4.7 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.3 spg, and get this 60% FG. All in all, he finished the year averaging a shade over 20 point per game on 53% shooting from the field and 77% free throw shooting.

Early on, he was able to score because defenses were not paying attention to him as much as they should have. They concentrated their efforts on stopping Baron Davis. Monta certainly took advantage. Then defenses realized how dangerous Monta was and shifted to give help towards that side. It really didn't matter, Monta always hurt them.

The reason I can't give him a A is his defense. Nobody would ever confuse Monta with being a good defender. There were no guards in the league that had any hesitation going right at him. And it's really going to be a problem in the future unless he learns how to move his feet quicker. He's such a small guard that unless he really does learn how to play point the Warriors will have to pair him with a taller, bulkier guard to make up for his deficiencies. I'm really not sure why he doesn't play man to man defense better, he's got some of the quickest feet in the league. Move them, young man. Slide!


2008-2009 Prediction
Monta Ellis will not be the Monta Ellis that we expect him to be. I don't think he gets to 100% until March of this season or perhaps next season. It's tough to recover 100% from major surgery in under a year. There have been plenty of players who take a year to fully recover from major surgery. Unless Monta is the quick healer that people think he is, don't expect Monta to play at Monta speed. As much as it pains me to say it, I think he'll be half a step slower due to the injury.

Maybe the lack of speed will help him develop his game. He won't be able to rely on blowing by guys to get his shot off. He'll have to learn more ball fakes, use screens more effectively, and learn those veteran savvy moves. Those moves that usually take years of experience to get to know. It's the subtleties of the jab step, pump fake, step back, and hesitation that he'll probably need to learn. If he's half a step slower, it'll be much harder to get off that pretty layup or that smooth mid-range jumper. He's grown every year he's been in the league, this might be the year he has to learn it's not all about his speed. If he does, it'll prolong his career.

In addition to learning how to still score without the ridiculous speed he has, he's also got the added responsibility of playing the point - something he's never done before. Nellie had him bring the ball up occasionally but there were never prolonged stretches where Monta played the point and the Warriors played well. Many times when Baron was off the floor, the offense stumbled and things just looked completely disorganized. Thus the reason Baron was playing 40+ minutes on a set of bad knees and a bad back. There's simply no way Nellie plays Baron all those minutes if he had a suitable backup option at point. Monta was not that answer last year. I really don't think he'll ever be that option in his career. He's not that kind of player. His game is getting to the hoop, hitting a jumper, but not setting people up. The assists he gets are on drives and when people converge on him he dumps the ball off. That does qualify him to run an offense. He's certainly got all the tools capable to be a point guard, but given his lack of experience at the position and style of play, I just don't see him even being a top point guard to initiate an offense.

Look, I'm extremely happy the Warriors have a talent like Monta, I'm just worried that we have an undersized 2 guard trying to play point. I now question whether he can make smart decisions on the court as a full time point and off the court as a young kid with tons of money. For better or worse, he is the face of the franchise.

Maybe I'm overly critical, but in order for him to now live up to the expectations and the money he's getting paid, he's going to have to step up his game as the full time point, be a leader on and off the court, and rehab his ass off and get back before the new year. He's no longer that 2nd round bargain getting paid under a $1 million. He's the face of the franchise and if we don't go deep into the playoffs during the next 6 years, it'll have been a huge waste of money.

 

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Before his contract runs out, how many All-Star appearances will Monta see? Consider that 5 guards are usually chosen and who Monta will have to beat out for that spot.
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It would have REALLY helped Monta’s development if he played this season, because I think this might be Nellie’s last year. The thing with Nellie’s system is that a player like Monta can thrive and gain skills that would last his whole career. It would suck if Monta is out the entire season and has to play in a different (maybe a slow, half court offense) next season.

Monta would have probably done pretty well at the point guard position for Nellie this season, since the whole team is full of ballhandlers and players that can initiate their own offense; Monta wouldn’t really have to be a Nash type of point guard where he’d have to put complete emphasis on setting people up. It’s not like a Kyle Korver type where a player needs a good passing point guard just to get an open look. Also, the team is always running anyways, and the Warriors’ fastbreak doesn’t rely on a point guard all the time. We all have already seen big men like Andris and Harrington getting the rebound and dribbling downcourt to start the break.

I still think Monta will be able to get into the All-Star game at least once, though. There’s a lot of great young guards in the Western Conference but Monta still has amazing potential, IMO.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Oct 5, 2008 11:56 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Monta will be able to get into the All-Star game at least once

I completely agree, I think he’ll have at least one selection.

He has the talent and plays in the right system to inflate his stats.
However, the competition is rough and most players aren’t even in their prime…. Roy, Paul, Martin, Durant, Williams to name a few might have the same arguments as Monta…
Even if the warriors are still having issues he has a bright future and nobody can deny he is an exciting player to watch…

beware of the 8

by nico26warriors on Oct 6, 2008 12:30 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Durant's gonna move to forward

And Monta’s just puts too many finishes on the highlight reels. No way he doesn’t make in one year. I didn’t vote for two though…

I hate Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, and Russel Peters because they make fun of white people like me. They also make fun of other kinds of people, which hurts me deep down because my ancestry is so mixed that I don't know what my official "race" is... so I get offended for all races!

by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 6, 2008 7:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

monta will never play in an all star game

He is the quintessential one dimensial player. Aside from scoring, it is impossible to name one thing he does well (lying does not count).

"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."

by GameSix on Oct 6, 2008 10:08 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

apparently

he doesn’t lie very well either.

the stop calling him "beans" movement

by pervisNeverNervous on Oct 6, 2008 10:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if

you can get in highlight reels and if you can get in some footwear commercial
then you can make kids and people in China vote for you

build a team & destroy the roof and

Sign Tim Hudson now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nuttinbutnet

by Lat We N Trash on Oct 6, 2008 2:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously GameSix

Remember the last all star game? When BD missed it because Roy & the Trailblazers were the hot thing of the moment? Monta’s frequent trips to the ESPN Top Ten will get him there at least once. And he rebounds well for his size.

I hate Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, and Russel Peters because they make fun of white people like me. They also make fun of other kinds of people, which hurts me deep down because my ancestry is so mixed that I don't know what my official "race" is... so I get offended for all races!

by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 7, 2008 7:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

monta will never play in an all star game

 ?!?!?

Magloire, B.Miller, Sczerbiak…..to name a few, made the all star… and Monta is way more noticeable and talented… you both forget injuries occur in the world of sports too..

beware of the 8

by nico26warriors on Oct 6, 2008 10:59 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

problem is, monta's a guard in the west

cp3, deron, kobe, brandon roy will be around in the west for awhile and you just never know who is going to come into the league in the future. by the time nash, baron, iverson, kidd, ginobili retire, there might be some new kids who are up there (especially considering some of the worst teams record wise may be in the west, Memphis, Minny, Okc). plus, parker will get votes as long as timmay is around to help the spurs win and mcgrady or any good (future) guard on the rockets will get votes as long as Yao is there. even kevin martin is a threat and likely to be in the west for awhile.

by the evil monkey on Oct 6, 2008 12:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

It just depends on how much Monta improves over the next SIX YEARS.

Right now, he managed to average 20ppg even though there were two other 20ppg guards/swingmen on the team (Baron and Jackson). Monta also managed to achieve that without having a 3 point shot in his arsenal. I remember Monta scored 36 points in a game without even attempting a single 3 pointer and without attempting a free throw either.

He has a ton of room to grow, even though he’s already good right now. That would be crazy if Monta is still the same player 6 years from now, i’m pretty sure he’ll develop into something very special. Hopefully by then, he’ll be just as good as guys like Deron Williams or Chris Paul, you never know.

His chances would also be good if the Warriors were a very good team (example, Parker getting in over Baron in 07 just because the Spurs were good), or if the Warriors have a great story worth getting recognition for (example, Roy getting in over Baron in 08 because the Trailblazers were “surprising” in the first half of the season).

by Five Ten Entertainment on Oct 6, 2008 12:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My only fear...

…is that he’ll never be the same player. I pray to the basketball gods that he doesn’t turn into the next Grant Hill. And I do think the Warriors should fine him a respectable amount not only to teach him a lesson but because that also provides management more money to spend in the future.

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by JonDoe on Oct 6, 2008 11:47 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All Star

I see Monta developing into a nice PG. He will play enough defense. I think his D will improve now that Baron is gone. Being a decent defender is all about effort. We all know Baron never stopped his man. He was only concerned with steals. He didn’t put full effort forth on D. So Monta followed what he saw Baron doing. Will he ever be Crhis Paul? No I don’t think so. I can see Monta making an All Star team over Martin or Roy. I don’t see either one being that much better than Monta. Monta has a bigger upside because of his speed. He is still improving where as Roy and Martin are already at their top form.

by JFRIZZLE on Oct 6, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW...

Great job once again Tony. Pinocchio Ellis is hilarious! Halloween’s coming up, maybe I’ll be a Lying Monta this year.

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by JonDoe on Oct 6, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't wait to see it!

I entered a photo in the Fitz & Brooks photo contest with the Mississippi Moped. It’s not Tony.psd quality but I think it turned out ok. I’m hoping to win some Dubs tickets with that entry.

Check out my Warriors t-shirts:
geocities.com/nellieballtee or geocities.com/runtmctee

by JonDoe on Oct 7, 2008 10:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Be Easy Fantasy Junkie

I think you’re goin a little too hard on the young superstar. i think everybody just needs to ease up a little bit on him. he made a mistake and everyone knows it. he made an even bigger mistake about lying about it but regardless, we all make mistakes. if you trying to kill his spirit then you’re on the right track to doing so. everyone should just support him and encourage him to come back stronger instead of hatin on him. i know and you know that this kid is raw and he will only continue to get better. have a little patience and hope he aint readin all you guys posts because that could most likely affect him if he thinks he lost the support of his fans. i got your back Monta! you still finna kill the league when you come back!! so all yall need to chill and look on the brighter side of the situation. maybe someone else can emerge (Bellinelli, Buike, Morrow, Williams maybe even Dickau haha). I say let the competition begin and when Ellis get back everybody else better watch they back! haha..i still think we’re gonna be dope..we’re young and we’re deep and we got heart!! that’s wassup!! yaa diiiiiggggg!!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Oct 6, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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