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RECAP: Warriors 113, Twolves 110 OT – Roller Coaster!

Final Boxscore  |  Open Thread (800+ comments!)

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This was a crazy up and down game, a roller coaster ride of a game. With the Golden State Warriors and Minnesota Timberwolves being two young teams, that's to be expected but I might need some Rolaids if this continues the entire season. Guess who the Rolaids man was tonight? The veteran, Stephen Jackson.

In the beginning of the first quarter the Timberwolves looked like the dominant team only to have the lackluster Warriors turn it around, show some life and tie the game at the end of 1. Then at the start of the 3rd quarter  the Warriors looked like the dominant team only to have the Timberwolves come back and take the lead. They held that lead all the way until about 4 minutes left in the game. All of a sudden, the Twolves couldn't hit a shot! The starters were back in and Nellie made the proper adjustments on defense to prevent Al Jefferson from continuing his dominance in the paint. The Warriors closed the 4th with a 9-0 run to send the game into OT.

After a thrilling win, I feel like being optimistic again, but then I remember that it took a big comeback and overtime to overcome one of the worst teams in the league. Winning is fun, but let's not get carried away. The Warriors still have some major flaws.

J-U-M-P

Star-divide

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A Different Lineup Every Night
For awhile, probably until Monta rolls back, you can expect the lineup maneuverings to be different every night. Nellie's not going to have a set rotation. Outside of Jack, Beans, and Buike, he's going to play the rest of the guys using his gut, his mighty gut. If he doesn't like how a certain guy is playing, he'll be quick to pull a guy and try someone else. If someone is playing well, he'll get another shot in the 2nd half. Because the young guys aren't consistent and he's trying to win games, he's going to play whoever is playing well. You saw that with Morrow and Randolph tonight. Both played well in the first half so they got early minutes in the second half. Unfortunately, they didn't produce so they got to ride the pine the rest of the game. Once Maggette comes back, the lineup shifting will slow down, but you can still expect to see that a previous good game won't have much of an effect on their playing time in the current game.

 

Defensive rebounding
The reason the Wolves stole the lead from the Warriors in the third and held that lead until the last few minutes of the 4th is because of the numerous offensive rebounds which led to a ton of 2nd chance points. 20 total offensive rebounds! Someone isn't crashing the glass. Someone needs to start crashing the glass and boxing out. It's inexcusable to up 20 offensive boards. It's hard to win when the other team gets that many more second chances.

 

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You can't call timeout when you're out of bounds

 

Turnovers in the 4th
Let's see, you're down by 4 going into the 4th quarter. What's one of the worst things you can do? Give the ball away. 8 turnovers in the 4th quarter?! Up until that point they took pretty good care of the ball with just 9 turnovers. Point guard anyone? Sorry, CJ Watson is doing an admirable job, but he's no long term solution. After a few years of watching Baron, it's really hard to watch this team not have a designated ball handler. When the team needs to just bring the ball up the court, sometimes it's a chore. Those 8 turnovers in the 4th are a direct result of not having a true ballhandler and creator. I'm not even convinced Monta, when he comes back, is that guy.

 

Biedrins
When your off game is a 13 point, 15 rebound game, you know something is going right this year. Despite the nice overall numbers, this just wasn't a pretty game for Biedrins. He racked up 3 moving screens, 4 turnovers, 3-9 shooting and was part of the reason Jefferson was scoring at will. But he came up big in the closing minutes of the 4th by helping shut down Jefferson and get that comeback win.

 

The Wright Left Hook
Unless you're 8 feet tall, you're not blocking that little jump hook by Mr Wright. He had it falling tonight, I think all 4 of his field goals were scored using that hook. It's not just that little jump hook he had going tonight, he was hustling on D as well. He didn't have any blocks but he sure changed a bunch of shots and is starting to look more and more confident out there. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be playing much if Nellie has another option, but Wright's making the most of his time. He's playing big crunch time minutes which can only help him develop. He's still extremely raw, but I'm sure we'll see a nice evolution quickly. He's already doing well on the offensive glass, but I'm sure we're going to see him incorporate that baby hook more and more into his arsenal and also become a better defender.

 

The Master Plan
We got a glimpse of Chris Mullin's master plan for the future of the Golden State Warriors. Tonight, we saw the first sighting of the three-pronged, left-handed, loooooong armed frontcourt. With Andris Biedrins at center, Brandan Wright at power forward, and Anthony Randolph at small forward, the Warriors had some ridiculous length and youth out there. It was fun to see these 3 pogo sticks bouncing up and down the court trying to grab every rebound and jumping as high as they could to swat every shot. When Maggette comes back it will be interesting to see what happens. Randolph has played well enough to earn some more minutes but he plays the same position as Maggs. The lineup I'd like to see get some burn because it looks like fun, The Master Plan + Jax at the 1 and Maggs at the 2 with Randolph sharing PG duties.

 

Another Barnettism: "Use the rim to protect your shot"
It's time to add one more Barnettism to my list. Simply because he drilled it into the telecast about 53 times, use the rim to protect your layup. So and so player should have gone up on the other side of the rim to prevent his shot from getting blocked. This is why I love JB, he hammers home a point and as an observer you can look for it later in the game. Basically, he helps slow the game down for the audience so that if you care, you can spot it yourself.

Another great (and corny) Barnett quote but not a Barnettism, "They threw him (Brandan Wright) to the Wolves." Gotta love Barnett.

 

The Randoms
Sadly, fan favorite Rob Kurz did not enter the game tonight. My prediction of "Don Nelson and a Monta Ellis suspension: Where Rob Kurz happens" did not come true. I'm utterly disappointed.

That other fan favorite for no explicable reason, Marco Belinelli, did happen to get in the game for 5 minutes and actually played well. He knocked down a couple 3's and played good defense. BUT, he still should not be getting more PT until he can consistently earn those 5 minutes. In fact, I'd rather see...

...the other undrafted rookie on the team, Anthony Morrow. He played well in the first half as he knocked down some nice shots and showed a lot of confidence in his shot. He played well enough that Nellie chose him as the first reserve off the bench in the 2nd half. Unfortunately, he didn't deliver the goods and after a few minutes was never heard from again.

Milk Carton: DeMarcus Nelson and Marcus Williams.

 

The Open Thread Comments
Lastly, I gotta give props to the commenters in the open thread. I can't believe there are over 800 comments in an open thread against the Minnesota Timberwolves. Let me repeat that, THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES. These are true fans. We might have to start opening up a second open thread if y'all get too crazy in the first. Anyways, props to the commenters and the people who've read all those comments. Keep up the passion.

 

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Captain Jack. He brought the Warriors back in the 1st quarter after a horrendous start and closed the game out in OT with a jumper for the first points, a big 3, and caused a turnover on the Wolves final possession. Whoever guessed that he would score more points than shots taken, you win. 30 points on 21 shots. And surprisingly, he made more than he missed, the Stack Jack attack.

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I really miss this: http://thewcolumn.blogspot.com/

What happened guys??

F**K REFS

by faetati on Nov 12, 2008 12:34 AM PST   0 recs

How I missed Gsom

and good old fashion last-minute victories! One week after the election, change came in a new lineup. Sorry —-Barackism. Anyway, what’s up with Marcus Williams being MIA? (Shows how long I’ve been MIA)

by thecitygirl on Nov 12, 2008 12:34 AM PST   0 recs

marcus

williams sucks thats why. everyone wants him but i dont know he didnt play in jersey or here. he can dribble but nelson wants scorers and he cant score.

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Nov 12, 2008 12:36 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I’m not big on Marcus either (I think that trade will go down as a huge mistake unless we can trade him for something of value soon) but I think your analysis of his game is incorrect. From what I’ve seen and heard he’s a more than adequate scorer for a PG.

by sam23 on Nov 12, 2008 3:27 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

ha

i mostly knows he can’t shoot to cause they put him on live as a starter for my dynasty mode and he cant even hit a 10 footer! or a layup! and when i play him in 365 mode he sucks even more :(

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Nov 13, 2008 12:56 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

dam

jacksons protege shoes make starburys look good. oh well he dont play that performace type of basketball anyways

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Nov 12, 2008 12:35 AM PST   0 recs

at least

he doesnt have the logo tatooed on his head

by sam23 on Nov 12, 2008 3:27 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

who

knows he might do it

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Nov 13, 2008 12:47 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Stats are fun

Amazingly enough, we really are leading the league in blocks, as someone mentioned during the game thread. It went up from 7.0 to 7.1 blocks per game after last night’s win. It’s Turiaf, Beans and Wright hosting the block party. If we can get our team to play defense more intensively, we can start doing some damage to other teams.

by IQofaWarrior on Nov 12, 2008 6:22 AM PST   0 recs

Amazingly enough, we really are leading the league in blocks,

 Which only means our perimeter defense is porous and the other teams are getting into the paint at will.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 12, 2008 9:44 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

And possibly

the guys going for blocks are out of position for rebounds. At least in last night’s game, it could have led to all those 2nd chance points.

by Fantasy Junkie on Nov 12, 2008 12:29 PM PST to parent up   1 recs

+1

Blocks are blocks, but somebody still needs to grab the ball afterwards, and when you go up for a block and miss, you don’t have time to get in good position for a rebound. I bet we lead the league in blocks because our guys try to block more shots instead of trying to alter the shot with the threat of a block while getting in rebounding position. Whatever… it’s nice to know the Dubs are good at one defensive category.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 12, 2008 3:52 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

yeah

Warriors have been around the top 5 teams in blocks since Nellie came back. I think we were 2nd in the league in blocks during 06-07.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 12, 2008 3:54 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

On average, a rebound is worth twice what a block is in terms of improving your team’s chances of winning. This is on average. Clearly some blocks are more valuable than others, but in general, this is the relative benefit. It takes into consideration how likely the block is to result in a change of possession, how much for each block there are other ‘altered’ shots (not often, as it turns out). Blocks are good. Rebounds are better. In an ideal world you hope to have both, but for a quick comparison, the 2:1 rule tends to hold.

Right now, not much else is going right for the team, but we’ve been a very good offensive rebounding team. Our Oreb% is in the top 5 in the league, which means more second chance points. Considering how poorly the team is shooting, this is a good thing. Unfortunately, this hasn’t translated into good defensive rebounding, where we’re the second worst in giving up second chance opportunities.

by jae on Nov 12, 2008 6:36 PM PST to parent up   1 recs

Good stuff

I’m curious how you got your hands on this league-wide data. Also are you running regressions to assess how much each stat category impacts winning?

by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 12, 2008 6:55 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I’ve got a database of every play for the last 5 years and a statistical parser that I programmed a few months ago so I could get at some of the stats that aren’t answered elsewhere (like if it was true that Wright and Biedrins really were a disaster when they were on the court together—they were).

It’s not originally my regressions, but I’ve re-run them to make sure that they were on the up. A point, a rebound, and a steal are all essentially equal in raising victory probability. A turnover and a missed basket are also equal in value to these, but in the opposite direction. This is the measured regression, but it makes sense on the basic principles of the game when we realize that possessions in a game are basically equal. Basically, things that give you the ball are all about equal and things that cost you the ball are all about equal and since they’re flip sides of the same thing, they have to have the same affect, just in different directions. (yeah, a miss doesn’t mean that you’re giving the ball back, but it does if you don’t get the offensive rebound, which is an independent event and accounted for on its own). That these are equal to a point is somewhat of an accident to the fact that on average a team scores about a point a possession (e.g. a two point basket every other trip down the floor). So getting a defensive rebound or steal means you stopped the other team when they had about a 50-50 shot of getting two points.

Fouls, missed FTs (in the negative) and assists and blocks (in the positive) are all less important (FTs because a missed FT doesn’t necessarily mean you’re giving the ball back— it could be the first of two or it could be an and one situation where you’ve already surrendered the possession by making a basket) but do factor in. They’re all close to worth about half what the point/rebound/steal are worth.

Again, this is on average. Clearly a missed FT at the end of a game when it’s the difference between OT and a loss means more than one in a blowout, but the averages do tend to work themselves out over the course of a season. There are also some “intangibles” (which by definition can’t be measured, but there are far, far fewer than most people think. Generally what you see in the stats is what you get. It’s certainly good enough to regularly win money with. Trust the numbers and you’re right far, far more often than you’re wrong.

by jae on Nov 12, 2008 8:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Interesting...

How is gaining possession after a block counted? If it’s not, I’d assume that’s where the 2:1 rebound/block ration comes in. If you block a shot there’s a 50/50 chance of grabbing it for a successfully defended possession, which gets you to the 2:1 ratio you were talking about. Looking forward to more statistical analysis, even if the vast majority of GSoM doesn’t like it.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 13, 2008 12:48 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I’ve got a database of every play for the last 5 years

Whoa! How did you get that? Send it on over to goldenstwarriors@gmail.com if you can get it into csv, xls, or spss formats.

As a social scientist who spends most of the week playing around with SPSS and ANOVAS (experimental data) I really respect your approach and passion for the numbers.

But I don’t know for some reason I just have never bought a purely stats-based approach to analyzed performance on a basketball court. I think Hollinger’s PER is somewhat of a joke (ignores defense, makes wild extrapolations, just playing around with descriptives). I deeply believe that it’s a team game and there’s much more to it than the numbers. For example if you look at the numbers I bet Al Jefferson looks as good (if not better than) Kevin Garnett. I don’t think many people are going to argue that they’d rather have Jefferson than KG though. Similarly I bet Corey Maggette trumps Baron Davis in terms of all metrics of efficiency, but I doubt many NBA players would rather play with Maggette than Davis.

by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 13, 2008 10:38 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

So I’d send it, but it’s about 300mb of text file.

Jefferson’s numbers, in my opinion, make him out to be about half the player that Garnett was. I think that’s probably a pretty good take on subject analysis too. He’s good, but Garnett’s still twice as good. At least over the last two years, Baron, by the statistical measures I like, is also better than Maggette.

by jae on Nov 13, 2008 4:26 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

As a surface analysis of the rebound discrepancy...

Having the young bigs in means that they’ll be all gung-ho and excited about getting an offensive rebound, but won’t be as diligent about boxing out. Plus, we give up so many layups and layup attempts that there are more of the opponents in the paint to collect the rebound…

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 13, 2008 12:44 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

It also likely means

Wright, Randolph, Biedrins, and Turiaf are, you know, good at blocking shots.

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Nov 12, 2008 1:05 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

It also likely means Wright, Randolph, Biedrins, and Turiaf are, you know, good at blocking shots.

  You havfta put them on a better team to know for sure and see if their blocks go down ? But the more chances the more chance for high numbers.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 12, 2008 3:07 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

They'll be on a better team

As soon as Monta gets back. ;-)

Then again I’m not entirely sure what difference it would make. Do you have any evidence that the Ws have significantly more shot block opportunities than other teams, or are you just making stuff up as you go along?

Biedrins is probably just an average shotblocker for a center, but I can tell the other three are exceptional shotblockers just from watching them. And there’s this:

Blocks/36 min, career
Turiaf 2.7
Randolph 2.7 (small sample size, but still)
Wright 2.4

By way of comparison, your lover Shaq is at 2.4 … but clearly his blocks are the “real” kind.

Have you considered the possibility that not every young player on the Warriors totally sucks at life?

;-P

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Nov 12, 2008 3:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Have you considered the possibility that not every young player on the Warriors totally sucks at life?

  No, They all do till they prove otherwise.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 12, 2008 9:00 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

So, Skeptic...

You’re a “glass half empty” type? I never would have guessed…

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 13, 2008 12:49 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

nice effort by the young guys

*watching ab/randolph/wright on the floor at the same time was super-sweet.
*this is a year to learn, not a year to compete
*signing mags is/was a waste a money
*monta needs to get back on the court to learn to play with the kids!
*again, ab/randolph/wright was beautiful to watch

"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."

by GameSix on Nov 12, 2008 7:31 AM PST   0 recs

Wooo!

8 games in and already tanking:

The NBA, where bogus injuries happen

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 12, 2008 3:53 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I can't tell...

Are you being serious or joking? I was referring to the “this is a year to learn, not a year to compete” sentiment, if that clarifies anything.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 13, 2008 12:50 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

"The Jackson dagger"

Can he get a patent on those at some point?

It’s weird: he doesn’t get that many last second game-winners or tie-ers, but I wish I had a dollar for every one of those signature late-game threes that take the game from squeaker (say, a 1-4 point Ws lead) to commanding Ws lead.

Captain freaking Jack. Still not sure how I feel about a pricy extension for his decline years, (depends on the $$$), but God I love that guy.

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Nov 12, 2008 8:18 AM PST   0 recs

A deal for Jack...

… no matter how you feel about his “decline years” is imminent. This will look like a genius deal in comparison to the Murphy, Najera, Fisher, Dunleavey, and Foyle. The man has been the linchpin dictating the success of this team; I don’t care how much people still jock B. Diddy.

The past and future in Golden State have one thing in common: Stephen “Motherflippin’” Jackson!

by SinceRunTMC760 on Nov 12, 2008 8:41 AM PST   0 recs

yes, without jackson

there would be no leadership on this team. not sure if you guys noticed what he did in the game against the kings, but he was still trying to talk to them and encourage them even while on the bench during a timeout. i even remember him teaching randolph to better defend a postup after randolph committed a foul.

yeah jackson is getting up there age wise.. but last season, we started 0-6 without him (that’s with monta and baron). this season, we’re 3-5 (that’s with jackson, but without monta, baron, uh-oh-maggetteo, and all star harington). there’s a reason why he’s captain, and he’s giving every reason on the court to get an extension.

by jonaaathan on Nov 12, 2008 8:49 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Well

I didn’t actually think the Ws management cared how I felt. ;-)

I’m basically OK with “overpaying” for a guy who, as you point out, is demonstrably the leader and soul of the team, with charisma to burn and a heart the size of the Bay. There’s some threshold at which the tangible fiscal constraints of a pricy long-term contract will outweigh Jack’s enormous intangibles, but I suspect the deal they finally ink won’t cross that threshold.

Heck, if it came to it, I’d be cool with expanding the contract to make Jack the player-coach when Nellie steps down / bolts / checks into rehab. I suspect Jack’s knowledge of the game and leadership abilities are coach-worthy already. He’d be the coolest coach ever, in any sport.

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Nov 12, 2008 9:51 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I’m basically OK with "overpaying" for a guy who, as you point out, is demonstrably the leader and soul of the team

you mean like boom dizzle?

but i get and agree with your sentiment.

the stop calling him "beans" movement

by pervisNeverNervous on Nov 12, 2008 11:50 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Different animal

Jax isn’t an injury risk, nor is he a risk to turn on the coach. So he fired a gun in the air defending himself? So he went in to retrieve/assist his friend who ran into a bad situation? All loyal/defensive infractions.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 12, 2008 3:57 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I love that picture of Jack and Miller. Hilarious.

Well, that 3rd moving screen foul on Beans was pure BS. The dude tripped over Beans’ leg after he was set.

by disguy on Nov 12, 2008 8:50 AM PST   0 recs

Jax

He had a nice game on the offensive end, especially the late dagger three ball, but I think he was part of the reason we were behind to start with. After starting of the game “guarding” Telfair – that is keeping a six foot distance from him to make sure he didn’t drive – he settled in to playing lazy defense for the better part of the game. Jax is our only good defender and is the catalyst for the defensive effort from the rest of the team. We need him to bring his A game on defense every night because his defensive intensity rubs off on the rest of the team.

Also, we gave up way too many easy fast breaks off rebounds. Too many times instead off getting back in transition we had two guys crash the boards and a third guy run towards the defensive rebounder to challenge the pass giving Minnesota an easy 3 on 2 or 4 on 2 the other way. This is hoops 101, you don’t challenge passes 90 feet from the basket instead of getting back on transition d. Unfortunately it wasn’t just the young guys like Randolph and Wright making this simple mistake.

by W8ingForATitle on Nov 12, 2008 10:00 AM PST   0 recs

In fairness

He played 48 minutes. He’s averaging 43.4 for the season. I agree with your take, but it’s tough to go all out on both ends when you’re getting no time to breathe. If Nellie wants the Maximum Stack Jack on O and D, he really needs to try and keep him at 38 minutes a game or so. That’ll obviously be a lot easier when Mags and Monta come back, and Randolph starts to learn how to play.

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Nov 12, 2008 10:45 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

True

His minutes played are obscene, but if he can’t give a decent effort on defense Nellie needs to spot him a couple more minutes.

by W8ingForATitle on Nov 12, 2008 11:35 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

WOW!

How do you when a game when the other team shots 30 more shots? Warriors 38/80 FG and Twolves 47/110 FG.

by Psion on Nov 12, 2008 11:40 AM PST   0 recs

FT's

Also look at the FT disparity. 37-14 for the Warriors.

by Fantasy Junkie on Nov 12, 2008 12:31 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

The Threesome

I love those guys, but the problem is that when they are in the game, each of them is thinking more swat than rebounding, so what happens? As they are contesting the shot, their guy goes to the rebound. That has to stop. ASAP. Somehow, I hope the coaches can get them to focus on the glass while still challenging shots. Maybe its hustle, maybe its defensive spacing.

Nothing better than "The City".

by philsmith75 on Nov 12, 2008 12:07 PM PST   0 recs

That should/will change

when they play more together. They will learn where the other guys are and who needs to give help and who needs to stay down low and box out. Right now Wright and Randolph are like puppies with way to much energy and no focus, they will figure it out.

by qin on Nov 12, 2008 12:31 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Stephen Jackson love?

Really surprised to see so much of it after this game.
The guy is a serious ball-hog. I get real tired seeing that iso-post or him trying to dribble through the triple-team. The run that the Wolves put together in the 3rd was all on him; sloppy turnovers and bad shots on offense and non-existent defense. He got a decent breather from Bellinelli, and Marco played nice energy-D and was hitting his shots. Should of left him in.
The defense is really the worst part, though. Yes, he plays too many minutes and is probably tired, and Nellie keeps putting him on smaller guys, which doesn’t help. But half the time he seemed to be playing lazy-d. His man was either wide-open or easily driving right past him. A leader should recognize that he is too tired, and is (at times) hurting his team. Jackson is just too stubborn and wants to do it all by himself. Our offense is too stagnant with him as the focal point and the bottom line is that we would not have needed his late-game heroics if he had played at least halfway decently in the 3rd.

by Snesley Wipes on Nov 12, 2008 12:32 PM PST   0 recs

The win blinds people

Its a win everyones happy

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 12, 2008 2:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I expected Jackson to score 55.

That Spurs-Timberwolves game was almost as crazy as that Spears-Timberlake relationship. But i’m surprised that our team had a hard time in the 4th quarter.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 12, 2008 3:49 PM PST   0 recs

Jax's shoes

look like bowling shoes

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Nov 12, 2008 6:41 PM PST   0 recs

Rashad McCants

He won the game for us. He took some poor shots down the stretch and then, WHEW, missed the would’ve been game winning shot.

by lightz0ut on Nov 12, 2008 8:24 PM PST   0 recs

To be clear

Not discrediting the Warriors and SJax. But really, we made some would’ve been costly mistakes but I thought there was 2 or 3 player McCants bailed us out.

by lightz0ut on Nov 12, 2008 8:25 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

New Warriors Blog

Hey I know this is off-topic but there’s a pretty good new fan blog out there.

http://thegstown.blogspot.com/

It’s worth a read.

by thegstown on Nov 13, 2008 2:45 AM PST   0 recs

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The Scary Truth about Don Nelson
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Complaints about Ronny Turiaf.
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A Cal Poly grad could meet Rowell in person and represent for GSoM
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Lepper Reports: DeMarcus Nelson Waived
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Jrue Holiday
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Monta Ellis is an Underrated Point Guard
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