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RECAP: Warriors 102, Pistons 107 - That Wasn't Practice

Final Boxscore |  Open Thread (1100+ comments!)

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Question: Who can take away our 12 point lead in the 3rd Quarter?

Answer: The Answer.

Yet another loss.  But, for a game that we weren't supposed to even contend in, we put a good fight for the first 30 minutes.  Things were going smoothly, shots were being made, defense was being played, the Pistons were gettin boxed out, and it looked like we were going to beat a team that we stood no chance against...but, its 2008.

And in the words of Atma Brother #1 - WE BELIEVE IS DEAD.

Sigh...

Star-divide

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Still got it

Isn't this guy supposed to be 33?  How is HE the fastest guy on the court still?  Man, I've always been a fan of A.I. and tonight he showcased why he's ranked third all time in scoring average per game.  And his cross-over?   Still got it. 

Just out of curiosity, why didn't anyone make a ridiculous trade idea for us to get A.I. at any point?  Sure, he's got he's contract and he was part of a division rival, but there were even more ridiculous proposals...Tim Duncan anyone?

Imagine - Allen Iverson + Monta Ellis + Corey Maggette + Stephen Jackson + Andris.

CHAMPIONSHIP!

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I know this one...ball goes in the hoop

The dunk heard across the world

Except it wasn't a thunderous "SONIC BOOM".  Instead it was more of a "CLANG" or a "BOINK."  There's no way that I can possibly say one missed shot, or one missed dunk is what causes us to lose the game, but man, that was one heck of a momentum killer.  We come into the 2nd half up by 7, make shots early in the 3rd to bring the lead to 13, have the energy of the crowd, and...Andris misses an open dunk.  I know I know, I can't put the blame on him, especially seeing as though he's getting a double-double every game, but that was the spark that led the fire in the Pistons.  It happens, but that was a terrible way to go out.

Speaking of Andris, give this man props for getting his 16th consecutive double-double in the first half.  Good work Beans!

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Only one tech?  Must be my lucky day!

Rasheeeeed Wallace!

I thought this man was going to win the game for us.  A tipped in shot and two missed free throws?  I couldn't have asked for more from 'Sheed in the last few minutes of a tight game.  Check out what he said about that tipped in shot -

"That really hurt my feelings, that tip," Wallace said. "You can't let that frustrate you. I missed two point-blank foul shots. I'm upset at myself about that. You can't let that one thing get you down. That's what we did, just dug deep and came up with some stops down the stretch."

Didn't know the guy had feelings to begin with.  I had faith in the old man Wallace but I seemed to have forgotten a very crucial detail about Sheed.

He was the best three point shooter on the court all game.

Two back to back 3 pointers late in the game = loss for Warriors.

Sigh...

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UNSTOPPABLE BABY!!!

Not quite done cookin' yet...

Hey, I understand it's hard for CJ to guard Iverson.  That's like me trying to guard Rob Kurz - it's an unfair match up in every way.  But that does not excuse the mental mistakes or the crucial missed free throws.  How in the world are you going to play in the NBA and step over the line on an inbound pass?  I thought that's the stuff you learn not to do in middle school!

Lead scorer on the Warriors, fine, but we need more assists out of CJ!  Man, is this the time to start yelling for Monta?

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Gotta make it happen cap'n

The Old Guys

It was good to see Maggs back on the court slashing and doing his thing.  13 points in his first game back isn't bad at all.  However, it is pretty apparent that he's nto 100% as he tried to take as many outside shots as possible.  Hopefully by early next week, he'll be back to his old self getting into the lane and finding his way to the foul line.

As for SJax, he was his same old self.  I can't knock this guy for trying but going 5-19 isn't going to cut it if he's going to lead the team.  We CANNOT live and die by one player, but he's going to have to do better.  I'm sure playing 42+ minutes plus every game isn't helping, so I really hope he finds some time off on Saturday against the Clipps.  I will mention this - he is being much more selective about the 3s.  Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is something only time will tell.

3-5

Next up - LA Clippers.  Don't they have some guy that used to play for us or something?  Wonder how that's going to turn out...

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I woulda loved to give this to Andris for his 16th double double...but I gotta give my man Tony.psd his props for getting approval on the double-double poster!     Apparently Andris saw Tony in the stands and grabbed it 5 minutes into the shoot around!

Good work man!

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Yes, that would be Andris with Tony's Wife!

 

 

 

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uh oh

Tony you better watch out Andris is making moves on your wife!

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Nov 14, 2008 1:13 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yea man, he can have the sign! The dude was mad humble… I was so happy I forgot 2 jump in the pic! That guy made my sign look like an 8×10 paper!


That smile is priceless… makes me know my job was done! Jax gave me the thumbs up on the Thizzle Jackson as well :-)

Great game all around!

by Tony.psd on Nov 14, 2008 1:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That guy made my sign look like an 8×10 paper!

is that A2?

build a team & destroy the roof and

Sign Tim Hudson now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nuttinbutnet

by Lat We N Trash on Nov 14, 2008 1:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great job

and nice to see you getting reconized.

by qin on Nov 14, 2008 2:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HMM

more i think of it if the warriors ever made it to like an episode of Cribs you would be even more famous with your pictures. Because the player would so show it off.

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Nov 14, 2008 4:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a game... not a game... but practice.... practice man

Practice or not, Iverson is still the man. You can tell that he just leaves his heart on the floor. And ‘Sheed… geez… he’s got to be on the all time Warrior killer list.

Some notes:

— CJ played a decent game despite the mental lapse on the inbound pass to Andris. He’s also got to learn to give up the rock a little more. He looks good enough to be our backup point guard though.

— Jax is playing too many minutes. I hate to beat a dead horse, but Nellie needs to find a way to keep his minutes down to under 40 a game.. He also forced a couple passes to Andris when there were too many bodies in there. He needs get those turnover numbers down.

— Andris is mister consistency so far. Nuff said. I forgive him for the missed dunk.

— Morrow’s shot looks Michael Redd-esque. Quick release and pretty. And he made some crucial shots in crunch time. He’s got a future in the NBA.

— Brandon Wright is looking more and more comfortable on the floor. Man, I swear it looks like he could jump up and grab tthe top of the backboard. He’s got some seriously long arms.

It was a tough loss, but at least they made it close. Until we get someone better at point guard, I think more games like this will be inevitable this year, even if Monta gets back to full strength.

by NoMoreDizzle on Nov 14, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Warrios

Love it.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Nov 14, 2008 1:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My bad

I was gonna make some lame joke about Maggettio’s…didnt end up happening

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Nov 14, 2008 2:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL!

I get a kick outta the banners at Oracle up top in Club 200…

“Uh-oh-Magette-oh!”

“Harrington’s Homies”

just 2 name a few!

by Tony.psd on Nov 14, 2008 2:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My plan for success:

1) Brandan Wright needs to be getting starter’s minutes. 30+ per night. This isn’t just a matter of player development anymore; he’s legitimately one of our most surehanded options on offense thanks to his reach, he’s a solid rebounder, a vicious shotblocker, and he’s shown a great aptitude for spacing the floor and slipping between defenders in the paint. If Nelson’s given up on Harrington (which is a no brainer statement), then Wright must play.

2) I think Biedrins can probably do even more for us offensively than he is now. We’ve seen his post moves this year come leaps and bounds, and he’s more mobile than ever. Both Biedrins and Wright should have some comfortable plays drawn up for them for the Warriors to go to in case of a scoring drought. There’s a reason why great teams focus in on post play! This obviously requires Nelson to do more in game coaching than he seems to want to do. So it might not happen.

3) While Azubuike’s play early in the year has made the Maggette signing seem sort of redundant to me, there’s no doubt that Corey brings a needed dimension to the team. He’s really the only perimeter player they have right now who can bull his way to the basket straight up; Kelenna gets the edge by playing angles off the ball, and Jackson doesn’t have the speed or handle to do so reliably. I realize that Maggette balked somewhat at being a 6th man in LA, but if he doesn’t want that fate to befall him here, he needs to secure his role in the offense, which means driving inside constantly, and drawing fouls. He’s done it his whole career, it’s just a matter of effort and health.

4) CJ Watson has been doing an admirable if erratic job holding down the fort. Despite a number of indescribably bad decisions in the Detroit game last night, given how much burden he’s had to shoulder, I have to give him credit. That said, he’s not racking up too many assists, and his ball-handing is no less suspect than Azubuike, so I’d probably bump him to the bench and roll with Azubuike, Jackson, Maggette, Wright, and Biedrins. That lineup has excellent size, athleticism, they’ll rebound like hell, and they’ll score. There’s a drought in terms of ballhandling, but that would be true anyways.

5) Marcus Williams did not look good last night. His shot selection and instincts strike me as rather poor, despite whatever natural point-guardiness he may have. I’d rather roll with CJ and DeMarcus.

6) Morrow has looked confident and able in the few NBA minutes he’s seen. e has a lightning quick release, and he’s a pedigree shooter, something Jackson, Maggette, and Azubuike are not. Morrow should be subbing in to spell Jackson from time to time. Which brings me to my last point…

7) Stephen Jackson is not god. This team has clearly evolved in such a way that Jackson is the leader, and I’m okay with that. But Nelson has clearly designated Jackson as one of his guys, and therefore he sticks with him regardless of circumstance. Jack is a grown man, I’m sure he can deal with hitting the bench every now and then. For both the preservation of his body, and the health of the team as a whole, Jackson needs to ride the pine a little when he’s in the midst of a game like last night’s.

by Zack Vank on Nov 14, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

pretty much, though

1) Wright’s problem is still defense. he’s too soft (though he should always be in when we go zone).
    Give up on the year? Wright. Trying to win? Turiaf.
2) don’t get me wrong, AB’s one of my favorite Warriors… but ever since he started getting the ball more in
     the post, he’s shot 45% and averaged 3 TO per game (1.1 TO/g last year).
4) well, even if he doesn’t always find or hit the open man, CJ does at least look up when he’s dribbling.

by the evil monkey on Nov 14, 2008 4:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the problem is...

AB’s offense is immature; predictable. Opposing teams know how to defend most of the time. Still young and still developing.

by wander7 on Nov 14, 2008 4:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

solution!

If he can develop a sky-hook type of shot then he can be predictable all he wants. Does anyone know if he has move like that? I don’t remember ever seeing one.

by wander7 on Nov 14, 2008 4:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd disagree...

…about Turiaf. He’s an energetic bench player an a very good backup at the center spot, but his maximum possible contribution based on my assessment of his talent isn’t that high. I think Wright’s potential contributions at their maximum could spark us to a positive and productive year, not least of all in the win column. I think playing Turiaf above him would mortgage both present and future.

by Zack Vank on Nov 14, 2008 5:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last 5 mins.

Let’s give Biedrins some touches in the post at the end. He had shorter guys on him and could have spun on them for some shots, better than CJ on a pick and roll and an off balance jumper.

Let’s give Brandon starter’s minutes too. Although he’s got to get more fire in his belly on D and rebounding. Shorter guys are beating him to the ball. Desire Brandon!!

Nothing better than "The City".

by philsmith75 on Nov 14, 2008 2:23 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy Crap

The announcers reminded me of how many three’s the Warriors used to take last year. At least 9 made three pointers a game! lol. The Warriors can only get better this season, so i’m not really worrying from that game. I miss the celebrity fans though, and the feeling that we can overcome any deficit with all of our scorers. But now we got this young team, we should play Morrow more.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 14, 2008 4:21 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It all weant down hill

after that freakin missed dunk by AB

by Agent Zero on Nov 14, 2008 5:01 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

that’s what i love about basketball. things change so fast and a team has to stay consistent to win.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 14, 2008 5:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anthony Morrow

Does anyone else think that his stroke looks EXACTLY like Ray Allen’s? The way Morrow shoots looks so smooth, hopefully he starts to expand his game as he gets more experienced. It would suck if he stays a shooter his whole career; with better handles and a better understanding of the game (and a couple more things) this kid can be pretty good. Not all-star good, but a pretty good role player.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 14, 2008 10:06 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup

Ray Allen. That’s who i was thinking of.

I pray i never have to use a gun again...

...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...

...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...

...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on Nov 14, 2008 10:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah im pretty high on this kid. he does remind me of ray allen, hes got that sweet stroke. hopefully he can turn into a pretty solid role player in the near future. maybe like a james posey type player.

by gorillas on Nov 15, 2008 1:23 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What does Nelson teach in practice?

I can’t stand the warriors in the 4th
if we’re down by 2, and Jax hasn’t made a shot in 8 min, why does he still get the ball in an iso? he hasn’t shown us anything to make him deserve it. pass the ball and get beans a dunk or some free throws or somethin. anything but an ill-advised 3, please, make the defence work, use some clock, get a better shot. share the ball so the defence doesn’t entirely collapse on one man. Refs won’t bail us out on stupid drives anymore. Nelly needs to get the team to keep working the ball. WE were leading the whole game until captain jack got the green light to take dumb shots. If we kept doing what we were doin before, we probably would won the game by 6

by jimmycaps on Nov 15, 2008 2:30 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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