Anthony "Arrow" Morrow new star. Blockbuster trade coming?
by JakeGittes on Nov 16, 2008 10:04 AM PST
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PrintAnthony "Arrow" Morrow is the straight shooting perimeter juggernaut the Warriors have been searching for, no doubt. It's never wise to judge a player from one game, but I've never quite seen a performance like that in my life. From what coach and all the players have said about this guy in practice, his performance is likely far from a fluke. His game reminds me so much of the sharpshooting Michael Redd, and his defensive efforts are much appreciated to go along with his rebounding. How do you not play this guy 20+ minutes a night? I'm anxious to see how the chemistry between he and Jackson effects the rest of the team.
Birth of a blockbuster trade
If Morrow were to have another 30 point game during the upcoming road trip, it has to make you wonder where the team would stand with Azubuike and Belinelli alike. Even more, could the Warriors now use Azubuike to package with Harrington and bring back a quality player? Even a step further, could the Warriors package Harrington, Buike, and Maggette for a star player like Andre Igoudala?
Ellis and the Arrow
The emergence of Morrow suddenly makes trade talks that much more interesting in Warriorland. Suffice to say, teams are going to have their hands full when Ellis returns to play with this kid. When Monta is performing on a high level, the constant threat of his drive causes the opposing defense to draw in closer to the basket, thus leaving the perimeter open as the help defense will collapse. Between Ellis, Jackson, and Morrow, the Warriors have a trio there that could prove to be extremely dangerous in an uptempo offense.
What are your thoughts about the status of Azubuike now that Morrow is a new favorite of Nelson's?
Would you like to see the team reform, and try to bring in another young star via blockbuster trade?
What kind of player(s) could the Warriors get for Azubuike, Maggette, Harrington, and Belinelli?
What kind of value do these players have?
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As far as your nickname
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by sloth11 on Nov 16, 2008 10:18 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I like it.
What would you prefer, A-Mo?
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by 61st Amendment on Nov 16, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
A-Mo's cool
The brother kinda reminds me of Marvin the Martian too. That would be a little cold though
hahahaha
i hope you know the short slang term for homo is ’mo.
ahh
the noobtube is really annoying. I hate people who overkill two noobtubes on search and destroy and just run around with that.
Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement
Yeah
I hate getting noobtube’d, especially on Search when I get killed right at the beginning of the game. I never even thought about someone overkilling and having noobtubes on each gun, damn.
by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 16, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
you play on 360?
Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement
Does "arrow" rhyme with "Morrow"?
by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 16, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
"Score-o" Morrow...................
"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard
I strongly disagree...
…with most of the stuff you posted.
Harrington, Buike, and Maggette for Andre Igoudala????
Gee, I tought that Duncan trade-proposal post was a joke but this obviously beat that one due to the seriousness of your words… I just can’t believe I read this, Igodala would address NONE of our problems and yet would duplicated our strengths(similar to maggette). Moreover, he’s not better than these 3 together come’on I can’t believe you’re seriously. An inspired Harrington (i mean, motivated) is enough for Iguodala.
Moreover, Buike should NOT get traded, specially now that Morrow has exploded (he’ll keep his shooting, it was NOT only one night, he’s on fire since the Summer Leagues, the only reasons Nelson didn’t play him was beucase if his raw bball IQ and poor defense)
IMHO what the W’s should do now is to trade Harrington + Marco for someone who can instant play and contribute. Period.
Last option would be to trade Harrington + Maggette + Marco for a star, this would be a great move, but I can’t see who we could get in return. I only see that Iguodala wouldn’t.
=Gaucho=
Dude
You’re speaking like this guy is an all-star and has proven himself time and time again. He’s good, but he still probably has a lot to learn.
and Iguodala? That guy is no star. It makes NO sense to trade Harrington, Azubuike, and Maggette for that one guy. Especially since we just got Corey. On certain days, Azubuike plays better than Igudala in every aspect of the game.
Thank you, Dubs.
I agree....
I’m happy for his breakout game, but let’s see he can keep it up. I hope he does.
by candlestickkid on Nov 16, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
agree
I can’t stand Iguodola’s game, I don’t see him being close the worth of the money he is making and we gotta keep Buike he is solid. We just got Maggette so lets wait on him I think in the following years as these younger guys like morrow and Randolph MAYBE get good or real good we would trade Corey but not now. Trade al and marco
by FeartheBeard4 on Nov 16, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
umm
Your in dream land my man….morrow just had a good game against a mediocre team…. since when was baron davis known to be an elite performance… He may be a good find..but he’s certainly no reason to trade away proven players. From watching the highlights the shots that he made were either very lucky, or he’s the next coming of kobe.
Everything rhymes with Belinelli.....Right?
luck
u don’t get lucky to score 37 points, this kid has a ray allen release and he is stroking 3s like ur momma used to.
lol.
so you guys are jumping all over this guy just cuz he had one good game… How good do you think he’s going to be..good as ray allen?
Everything rhymes with Belinelli.....Right?
OK
You’re right. Morrow ain’t s@#%, he made a bunch of lucky shots, and Baron is definitely not an elite performance. I’m speaking sarcastically, of course. See how that sounds, you just sound foolish. Take it easy. Morrow showed out. Give him some love. You do make one good point that he’s not going to do this every night but you have to admit that what he did was pretty amazing because it was an UNDRAFTED ROOKIE’S FIRST START. At least acknowledge that. Whatever playing time he gets from now is definitely deserving. Am I right? Also, what made it even more impressive was that he didn’t force it and he played under control. Which are two very good signs. Not to mention that he was hitting the glass, too. Sorry, to the Belinelli fans.
by SPREEE4THREEE on Nov 16, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Nickname
Anthony Morrow aka “Money Morrow,” aka “A-Money,” aka “Make It Rain,” aka “Heat Stroke,” aka “Oakland Hills Fire,” aka “Lil’ Jack” aka “Young Jack,” aka “Deep Impact,” aka “the Godfather,” aka “Scarface,” aka "yeah that’s enough.
by SPREEE4THREEE on Nov 16, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Awesome!
I also like “Ammo” and “Arrow.” In any case, I freaking love Anthony Morrow.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 16, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
ha
if he only plays good against Mediocre teams hes exactly what we need than. We play well against good teams but those mediocre teams like Memphis heck even Minnesota (and we beat them) he could be the answer to stop them and due to that we will have a great record. If Morrow was not in we were going to loose that game the Clippers even had the lead for a second. So maybe hes our spark plug for crappy teams that make us play like crap.
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Nov 16, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Let me reiterate
Obviously the players in a trade involving those four guys would not bring back just Igoudala to the Warriors. The key pieces would be Maggette and AI, but I think we could also get a player like Lou Williams or possibly another prospect. Again, I was just throwing a name out there. I love how people get so excited when you throw names out there. My point was that we could package Maggette with the other players mentioned and bring back an up and coming player to add to the core.
As far as talking about Morrow like he’s a star, he’s already proved to be the best shooter on our team, and Nelson + the players believe he’s the best shooter on a lot of teams. The game of basketball heavily relies on high percentage shots in order to have success. Morrow appears to have both selection, and the ability to make these shots, at a position that’s responsible for earning your team the majority of it’s points.
Is he a star? Impossible to tell right? But I can’t remember the last time I saw a player his age shoot the way he did yesterday against the Clip’s, and I either trade Maggette, package him and go star shopping, or I trade Azubuike and Harrington to bring back a quality player. Morrow is going to be good. Just be real. I know it’s one game. How can you keep Maggette and Azubuike, a bit of a redundancy on the same team if Morrow proves to be a good player in his young career?
BTW, I’m all for waiting until the trade deadline to make any kind of blockbuster deal. This would not only free up the trade restrictions to newly signed players, but it would also give Morrow a chance to improve and work himself deeper into the rotation. I’m a big Kelenna fan, but I think this kid can prove to be a little more valuable to our team in the future.
Please remove...
…Buike’s name from your wish list. He has one of the best work ethic of the squad, plays D, box his man out of the boards, can hit the 3, drives strong to the basket and isn’t afraid to take the clutch shot. Of course, he’s no Lebron or Kobe yet and needs to improve A LOT but you also can’t just deny his heart, he gives 110% of himself every single minute he’s on court.
You wanna make an impact? Trade S-Jack, who has a great trade value and at the same time is killing us with his shooting % and bad decisions dow the strecht (when he’s tired). Now that Baron is gone Jack really believe he’s an all-star (which he ISN’T) and is behaving like one, reflecting directly on his numbers. I know he’s skilled and has the best bball IQ of the roster but he’s taking too much and just not delivering.
Trade Jack + Al + Marco for a superstar. Now THAT would shake things up there ;-)
=Gaucho=
by Gaucho! on Nov 16, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This Buike guy sounds alot like J rich
did he get traded too…..? oh wait he did :(
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Nov 16, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Azabuike is good
Buts its hilarious how overrated he is on this site. If you honestly wouldnt put Azabuike in a trade with Harrington to get a superstar or even just a star player your crazy. Buike is a scorer and thats it. He doesnt make his teammates better by any means, hes a black hole whose only role is to score, and thats fine but if it takes him in a deal for us to get a star on our team then by all means he should be in the trade.
You nailed it
the guys to trade for a veteran/“star” who can actually help this team NOW, are Jackson and Harrington. (Belli is not worth much in trade as a guy who can’t get off the bench on a bad team, and the league knows it.)
Despite his defense, Jackson is killing the W’s by leading the team in shots (bad shots) and turnovers, and trading him before he is completely re-exposed to the league as the mediocre offensive player he is, is the the best way to get value out of him long term.
by formerlythecity on Nov 16, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
That's exactly it
What abou Jack + Al + Marco for Vince Carter (plus a throw-in to match salaries)?
;-)
=Gaucho=
"Please remove Buike's name from your wish list. . .can hit the 3. . ."
Ummm…have you seen his 3pt. % this year? In the last 5 games he’s 5-16 (31). He’s actually shooting 23 from downtown! On top of that, he’s been WIDE-FREAKIN-OPEN most of the time he attempts a “3”!!! He needs to stick to his game, which is driving to the hoop and out-muscling people!
by scottiepimppen on Nov 17, 2008 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
Agree but...
…he’s a 36% 3pt shooter for his carrer and he has a nice shoting stroke. Against the Clippers, for example, he went 2/2 :-)
Ok, he’s no Morrow (lol noone is :-) but he’s better than Jack, Al and Baron Davis, don’t you think?
=Gaucho=
he’s already proved to be the best shooter on our team,
No, he proved he can score 37 points at least once. 5 years of the same production will prove he’s a RayAllen type shooter.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 16, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Being the "best shooter" on THIS team
ain’t sayin much right now, with Monta out.
He MAY be the best shooter on the team at the moment, but AB should still be getting more shots per game.
by formerlythecity on Nov 16, 2008 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
LETS CHILL
Morrow is a rookie who had one good game and a good preseason. If he can sustain this great but lets not get to excited. Rumors floating around Marco is headed out which porably is a result of Morrows practices and game play. GOOD MORROW fellas
by GoldenWarrior988 on Nov 16, 2008 10:43 AM PST reply actions
you're right
I agree. When you’re a young fan like me who started watching this team just when Run TMC broke up, you tend to cream a little too hard in your undies when sweet shooting prospects come around these God forsaken parts.
yea cool it. He had one good game against the Clippers. Even he said he doesnt shoot that well in practice. Oh and the nickname sucks
I agree
but not just anyone can go 37 and 11 even against a bad team, especially as a rookie in his third or fourth game. I can’t think of anyone else on the Warriors who’s done that against any team in recent memory, besides maybe Monta and Baron coming close a few times last year.
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by 61st Amendment on Nov 16, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Yep — ordinary players can have extraordinary nights. No reason whatsoever to think Morrow will be a star.
Still, if we’ve netted an ordinary NBA player in Morrow, that’s pretty sweet. Both Delk and Murray helped some teams over the course of their careers, particularly around the times they had their aberrantly big games… both were, if nothing else, solid components of an NBA rotation. If Morrow proves only to be that — a guy we can expect to be productive for 15 minutes a night — that’s still a great development for the team.
Whoa
Yeah, slow down, I didn’t say he was a star. As for Delk and Murray, they don’t qualify as “recent memory,” but I understand the point. However, if you can get that hot, you have something – the only question is whether it blossoms. So many good players never come close to these numbers, so we can’t act like it’s nothing.
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by 61st Amendment on Nov 16, 2008 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
"Even he said he doesn't shoot that well in practice"
First off he said that he doesn’t do that sometimes. Second off, it’s called being humble. Do we believe everything Don Nelson says?
youre probably one of the same guys who got fired up about Bellinelli’s summer league scoring outburst……How’d that work out for ya? Or are you one of those who think Bellinelli is still some amazing shooter who doesnt get enough run? Morrow had one incredible game. Its important we recognize the INCREDIBLE part, but also the ONE part of that. He was being humble, but also honest, he’s not gonna go out and shoot 66% on any kind of a consistent basis.
You’re probably one of the same guys who loves making irrelevant points. Was I fired up about Belinelli’s scoring outburst? Yeah, sure. Do I think he’s an amazing shooter? No. Do I feel he doesn’t get enough run? Definitely. Did it work out for me? No, but I still think it could if he would get consistent minutes. He hasn’t really played, so it’s not like he can be called a bust. Maybe a player in a bad situation. But does that have anything to do with my post? Hell no.
You seem to be confusing me with saying Morrow will shoot 66% on a consistent basis, I would love for you to show me where I said that (because I’m sure you didn’t just pull it out your ass). I was saying that for one thing, he never said he wasn’t capable of doing that in practice, just that sometimes he wasn’t capable. So he isn’t ruling it out. Not only that, but from everything you got from that interview, you don’t think he was being a little bit humble?
I’m arguing that you can’t use what he is saying as concrete evidence, because chances are he wasn’t being genuine, he was saying what he knew people wanted to hear. I would say the addition of the word sometimes shows that he was reluctant to be that humble, and had to add a qualifier.
Now if you want to respond to that point and not some BS about Marco Belinelli I will be happy to respond. Chances are that I will be forced to defend a stance I never took again though.
My argument about Belinelli was simply to point out the irrationality of getting too fired up about ONE game. ONE. Against the Clippers. Settle down. Lets hope he looks good this week and then maybe we can start talking about a real find. Until then lets just appreciate how amazingly hot he was and not read waaaaaayyy too much into it like half of GSoM did after Belinelli’s summer league game. Take a deep breath and just watch the next couple games before you get all worked up about the NBA’s next big star.
As for arguing against arguments you never made I actually never said that you said he would continue to shoot 65%, I’m just pointing out that theres no way we should expect anywhere near that level of production. Nellie pulled the right strings again seeing that he could create a mismatch with Morrow’s outside shot and Morrow also happened to be ridiculously hot. I’m not skewing your argument at all, I’m just saying we should all just slow down and be a little more rational about this.
I never argued that Morrow will keep it up or whatever, because no one knows, I was arguing that your analysis of his comments was likely flawed because there were a lot of things in and about his statement that contradicted your take on it.
And my stance on Morrow is the same as my stance on Belinelli. Sure, there will be people who hype the kid up too much, but there will also be people who put the kid down too much. It can’t be said for certain that he won’t shoot 66% every game, just like it can’t be said for certain that he will. He needs consistent minutes before we judge him, just like Belinelli needs consistent minutes before we judge him. Neither has gotten that, so I feel like all the optimism and doubts are unwarranted.
Oh it CAN be said for certain he wont shoot 65% every game. Are you nuts? Also at a certain point you have to be able to say guys are busts even if they dont recieve minutes simply because they dont receive minutes. Bellinelli should be earning more minutes by now but he’s obviously not showing anything in practice. He’s also not showing anything to make us think he deserves more minutes when he does get in games. Your stance is that there are people who will hype the kid up too much? Guess what…YOU are those people. And nobody is putting him down, those of us who are a little skeptical are just being logical. I fail to see how my argument using his comments was flawed. I simply pointed out that even Morrow was admitting it was a bit of a fluke and that it would be totally ridiculous to expect anywhere near that level of production. The guy got hot against a crappy team. He, unlike Belinelli, certainly earned himself some more run, but thats all he really earned for now.
Lol, I tried reasoning with you, but you are a joke. I will say nothing more, so you don’t manipulate my words. I am very impressed about this crystal ball you have that tells you exactly what Morrow is going to do, and those blinders you have on that explain everything after the fact. Good day.
I’m a joke? I’m simply saying its ridiculous to read too much into Morrow’s one game. Thats all. If you go back, you’ll see I never said Morrow WONT be very good. I think its very unlikely he becomes a star and its stupid to think he will based on ONE game against the Clippers, but that doesnt mean he cant become one. None of us know for certain what Morrow will do, I just said we should not expect to see production similar production to the Clipper game. If knowing that Morrow (or any other guard in the NBA) wont shoot 66% on the season requires a crystal ball, then I guess I, along with every other fan here with an ounce of knowledge, do have one. I’d really like to know what you disagree with about anything I’ve said or how exactly I’m a “joke”. I suspect that after a day to cool your engines you realize you sounded like an ass and are now trying to back away and save face.
And what I’m saying is you can’t say for sure we won’t see production similar to the Clipper game. And that it may be unlikely that he will shoot 66, but you are stating it as fact. You are trying to make me out to say Morrow will shoot 66 next game, so that when he doesn’t you can say “I told you so.” But that’s not what I’m arguing, and you refuse to acknowledge that.
“None of us know for certain what Morrow will do,” is the truest thing you’ve said all day, and a point I’ve not only not disagreed with, but have previously stated. Since we don’t know for sure what he will do, how can you truly say he won’t shoot 66. It may not be likely, but there is nothing wrong with not ruling it out, which I have done. It’s not like I haven’t ruled out him shooting 0 either, I haven’t ruled out anything. And I am arguing that his statements after the game do nothing to rule out either possibility as well.
You are definitely a joke because no matter how many times I state my position you change it for me, in an attempt to belittle my arguments.
dude, if you seriously think theres even the slimmest chance Morrow will shoot 66% on the year its not even worth talking to you about. Thats totally ridiculous.
Jesus Christ
I said you cannot rule it out. You cannot rule out anything. If you would just respond to my points instead of making them for me I would have no problem with you. I’m pretty sure we are arguing mainly the same thing anyway.
and I’m saying if your point is that you wont rule out Morrow shooting 65% on the year then youre insane. I wouldnt have a problem with you if you wouldnt call me a joke simply because I point out how ridiculous youre being.
I think you are confusing not ruling it out with expecting or even hoping it will happen.
I’m sorry for calling you a joke, but I really think that I’m thinking pretty logically. I wouldn’t rule out him shooting 100%, that doesn’t mean it is going to happen and I would never argue that he would. I am just saying that it is impossible to tell how he will do after one game, you are saying that too. Let’s just agree to disagree.
Exhibit A-
Guards currently averaging over 10 ppg and shooting over 50% from the field-
1. Anthony Morrow-15 ppg, 61%
2. Tony Parker-27 ppg, 56%
3. Mike Miller-13 ppg, 51%
4. Delonte West-10 ppg, 51%
Guards who shot over 50% last season: Nash, Calderon, Monta, Miller, Deron Williams. Thats it. And none of them sniffed 55% much less 65.
Exibit B-
Players shooting 60 from the field while averaging 10 ppg: Nene, Shaq, and Dwight Howard.
*Note all three are centers who score almost exclusively from inside the paint.
Players who shot 60+ from the field last season: Biedrins, Bynum (injury shortened year) and Tyson Chandler
*Also all centers who score almost exclusively from inside 5 feet and none of those 6 are at or were at 65.
YES. You CAN rule out Morrow shooting 65% from the field for the year.
I can’t stay away from an argument, I guess I just need the last word.
I said possible, not likely. Who knows? Maybe Morrow is the greatest player ever and averages 99% shooting or something? WE HAVE NO IDEA, so we cannot make any assumptions. Just like people who hype him up set his floor high, you set his ceiling low, when in reality from such a small sample size we can’t infer anything either way.
If you say I am saying it is likely one more time I will not respond, but I hope that you will stop doing this to try and paint me as a nutjob.
I’m setting his ceiling low by stating that he will not be the greatest shooter in the history of the NBA. Anthony Morrow I apologize for the obvious disrespect.
I never said you thought his shooting 66% was likely, the fact that you thinks its even slightly possible makes you enough of a “nutjob,” no painting necessary.
the fact that you thinks its even slightly possible makes you enough of a "nutjob,"
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 18, 2008 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
No, that wasn’t your original argument. You’ve twisted this crap so far.
Ask me if I think him shooting 66% is going to happen, and I will say no.
Ask me if I rule it out, and I will say no. Many things can happen. He could get injured, he could go down to the D-League, he could play only a few minutes a la Belinelli last year and light it up in the time he does. There are too many variables. And even if none of this happened, I still wouldn’t rule it out, because we haven’t seen enough of Morrow. I can give you my personal opinion that he won’t shoot 66% (which by the way I clearly stated in my first two posts, but you eventually coerced me into saying because ruling out any possibility at this stage is nearsighted), but I can’t guarantee you that he won’t. What if he doesn’t take another shot the rest of the year?
Could you please not address my argument anymore, because I hate having to defend stances I never took. You did a good job of tricking me into using 66% as an example to “paint me as a nutjob,” I’ll give you that.
ha, look back and you’ll see I kept saying the same thing over and over and over again and you kept saying “you cant rule it out.” I dint twist anything man, you STILL say you cant rule out Morrow continuing to shoot that well which is just plain crazy. Luckily you seem to be attempting to back out of it now, showing the first signs of some sense.
OK
What do you think are valid odds that Morrow will continue to shoot 66%? 100-1? 1000-1? Give me a number so that I can calculate how much I can take off you.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 19, 2008 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
and I havent changed any of your arguments. His statements dont rule out the possibility that he’ll have another game like that, but they show that even he thinks it was an incredibly hot shooting night. Even if he had shot 45% and scored 18-25 pts it woulda been a heck of a game, but I’d still be saying we shouldnt start declaring him a star or expect that level of production. He earned some more playing time, but thats all for now. I’ve been saying the same thing over and over, but for some reason you cant seem to digest it.
But what I’m saying is that there were reasons behind and in his statement that suggest you can’t take it at face value.
you cant take it at face value when he essentially says he was just really really hot when he shot 65% from the field, much of it from beyond the arc? Dude, if he didnt just have an incredibly hot hand for the night and its a trend he expects to continue, then he would basically be the greatest shooter in NBA history. Humility? Sure, maybe a little, but mostly he’s just being realistic.
Haha
I see you found a new fight post-election. ;-P
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He, unlike Belinelli, certainly earned himself some more run, but thats all he really earned for now.
The difference between them is Belinili doesn’t shoot from a stable platform, he’s all over the place on his release while Morrow is almost always in a straight up position. Morrow shows better mechanics and it paid of with big numbers. If we can move Bellinili for something worthwhile(how about a lifetime supply of pizza Margarita?) it would makes more sense now that we have morr-O.
The question is how many minutes should Morrow get? Who is gonna sit when he plays and is the trade off worth it? Morrow will be weaker on his understanding of the game compared to more experienced players so his sweet shot is only part of the equation. Remember he’s still a raw rookie.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2008 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
I have no problem with Morrow. I like his game and he’s certainly better with Belinelli, I dont disagree with you at all. All I’m trying to say is that its a little early to start saying he’s gonna be a star. I’d give him every minute that was gonna go to Belinelli and then….I really dont know. Just leave it up to Nellie to try to find the mismatches I guess. Personally I’d like to see Maggette dealt as soon as he’s eligible and a Buike/Morrow platoon get his minutes but thats extremely unlikely.
Nellie's offense
will make him a star. He’s going to have so many open looks and if he can shoot half as well as he did against the Clip’s, which BTW I’m tired of people belittling his performance because they’re a “horrible” team. Whatever. He’s a rookie who beat veteran player’s defense and managed to score more points than any of our players have this season. Anyway, look for Morrow to shoot better than 40% beyond the arc with due PT.
by Travis Bickle on Nov 17, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
you forgot one little detail
He did it for one game. Not trying to belittle his performance, but these guys are in the NBA for a reason. Most of them are capable of having nights like these. But what separates stars from scrubs is how many times they can have nights like this, and with defenses starting to focus on them.
Morrow has 1 very impressive game. The fact that he did it in his first start makes it even more impressive. But that’s it.
At the most, he earned more playing time (hopefully Nellie gives it to him). It’s remained to be seen if he can make the most of those minutes night in night out.
It’s one thing to get excited about a guy shooting 15-20. But it’s another to start branding him a star.
As jae pointed out, several near-nobodies have put up more than 37 in a game. He looked great, but it WAS a crappy team. Its far too early to dub him a star, so lets just tune in tomorrow and the next couple weeks to see what he does before passing judgement either way.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 17, 2008 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
no
the warriors wont be trading maggette for some time. no way they are going to want to give up buike either, and i agree. i would like to get the al situation resolved though, and would really like to see another star like baron davis come through oakland
you want to see another star
in oakland. what do you think monta ellis is? imo he’s already better than baron davis in most aspects of the game. now all he needs to work on is his court vision and defense and he will be better than bdiddy
i know that
believe me i know that monta is a star. i just meant a player that brings everything that baron brought
by hoopscorer23 on Nov 16, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
ok
i understand that but people are getting way too ready to make these big trades. yes we need to trade harrinton, and maybe bellinelli along with him. but lets not trade anybody else til we get an idea of what this team can do with monta on the court
yea
if it was up to me our starting line up would be baron, monta, j rich, capt jack and biedrins, the smallest ever but noone would be able to beat us. after the 2007 playoffs all i wanted to see was what that team could do with a whole season together. i loved that group of guys.
by hoopscorer23 on Nov 16, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
i know that monta is a star
One of those dwarf stars?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 16, 2008 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
chris paul, allen iverson, are what???
Ultra hot type O stars.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 16, 2008 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Not giving Buike enough love
buike is so solid coming off the bench or starting. He boards, plays d, hits an occasional three and for 3 million a year he’s great and we all love when he flexes. And Maggette I don’t think we will be trading him soon and we don’t need to his game is still helping us.And for Morrow 37 and 11 on 15/20 shooting isnt just lucky, shooting 70 percent from three in a summer league tournament isnt lucky, the guy can flatout stroke! I am not expecting him to just completely blow up but I do think he will start getting some legit burn and keep contributing nicely. The only thing the warriors need to do is trade Al and Marco for a player that can contribute. period.
morrow's performance...
was amazing…but no matter how good his first complete 20+minute game is, you dont wanna jump the gun and start building a franchise around him…i think his performance was enough to just say “yup…throw in marco in that al harrington deal.” NOT “lets include buike and maggs in that deal….for iggie none the less.”
I will cut you in 6 places
if you ever talking about trading Azubuike again.
I am Greg Oden, i am goingz to be trade to The Warrior. hoooray.
Warriors for life. Raiders till death. And The A's when i get free tickets.
by STIX on Nov 16, 2008 11:48 AM PST reply actions
I love Azubuike
Unfortunately most of the league does as well. If you want your superstar to come to the bay area, I’m not sure a Harrington + Maggette combo is going to do the trick. You have to give up talent to get talent back, and Azubuike is one of our more promising players. Maybe Maggette, Al, and Buike for Iggy and Lou Williams isnt a good deal. Although I don’t think most of you are giving Iggy the proper love. He shot 45% last year and averaged nearly 20 points. He’s a fierce defender and he also causes a lot of turnover’s with nearly 2 spg last season. Not to mention his 5 and a half boards and 5 assists he brings every game. He’s only 24 years old. He and Lou Williams are talented players, I’m not sure how you can argue against that. I would trade Al, Maggs, and Marco for them.
But like I said, if you want to trade for a superstar, you might have to give up Buike. I got news for you, Marco Belinelli is not going to be the ice breaker in any deal involving a big name coming our way.
Well thats fine if you say so
But you can’t tell me we’re going to land a Rudy Gay or a Carmelo for Maggs and Harrington.
true
however we got baron for speedy claxton
by hoopscorer23 on Nov 16, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Would you rather the man
not explain himself then?
I’m an advocate of keeping Azubuike on the team, but if we get a chance to make a big trade before the deadline, then I’m all for bringing in a REAL superstar to lead or core of young talent to the promise land. Igoudala and Williams are intriguing young talents but for Maggette AND Azubuike, plus Hair and Marco…I think we can do better. Usually when people post saying a player “like” this, or a player “like” that, I don’t like to take them literally like most on this site do.
by Travis Bickle on Nov 16, 2008 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
that's right.
Jake, next time, keep your posts in 3 sentences or less, or else Foulacy will not like it.
by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 16, 2008 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
ugh...
grow up. Do we have to disparage gays just because this is a sports blog? Come on, your better than that newb.
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
ugh...grow up.
I’ll second that.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
your should be you're
I’m better than that. lol
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
by olympicmike on Nov 17, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
your should be you're
Dang, guess I should proof read what I second.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
trade talk
If we were to trade, we should def keep maggette. We should get rid of Buike, Belli, and Harrington. Morrow is a beast…
buike plays D
he’s one of the few active players who can defend kobe.
Tradez
Buike should NOT be on the trade block. I have been very impressed with buike’s driving game this year, and he finishes better than any warrior we have right now. If Morrow can continue to shoot well from 3’s, this will finally give us a consistent sharpshooter from outside to spread defenses. This could open up lanes for buike and monta when he returns.
The players we should be looking to trade are Al (obviously), Marco, and Maggette if we are getting a star.
PS BIEDRINS FOR ALL STAR
Buike
I don’t see why you want to trade Buike. He has struggled from the 3pt line so far this year, but other then that he has played great.
Kelenna Stats:
15.8 pts 4.4 rebounds 1.7 assists 1.1 Steals 0.3 blocks 1.3 turnovers .449 field goal %
4th best offensive rebounding guard in the league. Averaging 1.5 offensive rebounds per game. He is also one of our best defenders due to his size and strength and easily one of our hardest workers on the court. So his 3pt shooting isn’t doing so well THUS far in the year. I can live with that. Especially for 3 million a year.
I dont think anybody wants to trade Azubuike
I think what he’s saying is if Morrow makes leaps and bounds this year, then we can afford to deal Bookie for a Star talent. I would prefer to trade Maggette, personally.
3million!!
who else gets that kind of return on an investment like bukie NOT on a rookie contract???? name one.. unles you are talkin kobe,Dho, bron etc..keep bukie name out ya mouth. ignorant fans..gotta luv their exuberance
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Nov 16, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions
i see people sayin
azubuike is expendable. and im just gonna assume these are the people who dont know anything about the game. he brings good perimeter d. hes good at driving to the rack. hes a good 3pt shooter, except for so far this season. he can create for others. wait a second, he can do pretty much everything, and hes only 24. HOW MANY 24 YEAR OLDS IN THE LEAGUE CAN DO EVERYTHING AZUBUIKE CAN DO…? clowns
"wait a second, he can do pretty much everything,"
Calm down and stop trippin. Bukie is a solid althought not excellent three point shooter. He’s gotten to a rocky start this year as most of his shots have been short or fading away from the basket but I suspect he’ll get on track sooner than later. He’s an excellent rebounder for his position but lacks much court vision and dribbling ability for a guard. I don’t know what your talking about when you say he sets others up considering his crappy assist numbers. Bukie is a good player, especially for his current salary and isn’t going to be traded.
This isn't a trade Azubuike post
People have made into something it’s not. Dude is saying keep Azubuike unless we need to package him to get a player like Melo or Gay or Iggy or whoever… You got to trade talent to get talent bottom line. YES EVERYBODY LOVES AZUBUIKE. Let’s just see who wins the minutes, and come the deadline, we will see who’s coming or going.
by Travis Bickle on Nov 16, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
As much as everyone loves Bukie.
If someone happened to want to trade some disgruntled superstar and wanted him as side benetfit, pull the trigger.
worst
trade idea ever.
Trade Jack – the heart of the team – a 1st rounder – why – and two other guys for garbage with salaries that are waaaaaaaaay too big.
Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement
if i see you in the streets..
imma shooot you!!
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Nov 16, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
yea right
you have got to be kidding me.
by hoopscorer23 on Nov 16, 2008 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Anthony
The “ammunition” Morrow
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Nov 16, 2008 3:09 PM PST reply actions
Hinrich and deng are you serious?
Jack is our veteran leader, never say trade jack again. Hinrich is hurt and we already have Monta coming back in about a month like people have said before the only people we should be looking to trade are al and belinelli and maybe eventually Maggette but Maggette still brings a above average defender, good rebounder and a guy that can score and get to the free throw line. Maybe in the future we can trade Maggette if buike and Morrow keep developing the way they are
Maybe Maggette
yeah, he does get us rebounds and is another veteran on our young team.
However we signed him for 50 Mil, but not Baron I mean cmon
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
jack is the most overrated guy
think for a moment. anyone in the league taking as many shots as him especially as many threes and handling the ball as much as him would be scoring much higher and have a higher percentage on shots. They would have more assists and less turnovers. Realize this…. the longer we have Stephen is the longer we will be out of the playoffs because he ruins about 10 possessions each game with the clink three and the 4 turnovers. i’d take azubuike over him any day.
ps. hes a horrible ball handler
i was checking and he is the only guy in the top 20 scorers with fg % under 42
and hes at 38%….. Yes he truly is a great player
well
no way you can say you want jackson gone with a strait face
by hoopscorer23 on Nov 16, 2008 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
i would love stephen
if he took 13 shots a game and shot 45% and scored 15 points like azubuike. That helps the team more and thats how he was in the playoffs. that would open other players up and thats is whats best for the team
straight face typing =/
no way do I want to extend him at +/- $18m per in addition to the almost $15m he’s going to get for this year and next
you probably never played bball
but this guy brings the intangibles and leader ship that every team needs. and he single handedly beat the twolves the other night, did you watch that game?
I agree Stephen Jackson should go
This guy pisses me off atleast 10 times a game, poor shot selection trying to post up while being triple teamed in the post. He’s got that really ugly high dribble, he can’t rebound, shoots a horrible % from the field, and he throws away atleast 2-3 balls a game directly to a defender. As much as everyone always says he’s a great defender I’ve been extremely dissapointed this season with it, he looks slow and he’s always helping off his man who usually takes an open shot. He gets burned regularly on the permiter by faster players. He’s awful, and he’s the least efficient player on the team. If this JackASSS gets extended I’m going to boo him before every game I go to.
It's all about the killer cross-over baby!
by warriorsfiend on Nov 17, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
I dont support a large extension for Jack, but thats probably the harshest Jack criticism this site has ever seen.
I've been just as harsh in the past
Mostly on posts that say that without Stephen Jackson we would have never won that game, and my response woould be without him on the floor we would have had to make up the 20 point deficit he shot us into. Yeah I don’t like his game, I’ll admit he’s clutch but if he needs to be clutch because he went 4-14 in the first 3 quarters and then goes 5-5 in the 4th. Stop drinking the kool aid this guy sucks!!!!!
It's all about the killer cross-over baby!
by warriorsfiend on Nov 17, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
oh and yes
if anyone is hoping for a superstar type talent to come over to the bay, any trade will include Azubuike. For all his positives there are some glaring holes in his game first and foremost his lack of court vision. Theres only one thing in Bukake’s mind right now when he gets the ball, take it to the hole, 10 defenders non withstanding.
Dont get me wrong he’s a nice story and one of the reasons trading Jrich made some sense but as Azubuike, Morrow et al has shown, 2-3 guards are all over the place. Azubuike is replaceable.
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Nov 16, 2008 3:14 PM PST reply actions
I'd keep Buike
if only he stops shooting outside the arc and just keep hustling on both ends of the floor
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
his 3pt shooting is improving
So shh, don’t jinx it!
Lets hope maggs gets out of his 3pt funk – he was shooting .384 last year behind the arc.
Wow
One game and he’s already emerged to be one of the future of this franchise?
Now, I can’t wait for Anthony Randolph to have a 30pt game.
hahaha that nick name sucks!
Anthony “Arrow” Morrow?? A-Mo sounds hella better
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Nov 16, 2008 5:46 PM PST reply actions
A-Mo sounds hella better
I like " More O " actually WAY more offense
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 16, 2008 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
nickname - Ant
Randolph called him “Ant” yesterday, as quoted in Thompson’s article.
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
Randolph called him "Ant" yesterday
He’s just jealous.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 16, 2008 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
TRADE Kelanna??!??!? are you crazy!?!?
I’m not saying Kelanna is untradeable, but come on…he too valuable, especially at his rate.
I don’t ever see him becoming an all-star – but a sixth/seventh man for sure – which every good team needs.
Morrow showed great promise, but a career is not made on one game.
Besides Marco, the most likely player to go in a trade is B’Wright. Not enough room for him and Randolph. Someone has to get the developmental minutes.
And… as to the A Randolph/Lamar Odom comparisons…i gotta no. Randolph is clearly faster and handles the ball better – but once he gets inside 20 – he has no idea where to go or what to do. if he figures that out, he’ll be the player everybody’s been waiting 10 years for Odom to become.
I predict Marco is going to NJ for the 1st round pick + Najera.
uhhh najera again...
he just annoys me. oh and by the way, randolph is a sf, wright is more of a pf. wright has a much different game than randolph. randolph is exactly what you said, a guy with great abilities to create for himself and at the same time with lenght, wright is more of the type of player you would play pick and rolls with or throw the ball to down in the block and let him play a post game. on the defensive side of the court they do have very similar games though. but that is not a bad thing, they are two great blocker threats.
don't forget matt barnes scored 30+ for us his first year from the D league too
i like morrow, especially his mid game, but you all need to stop trippin
Morrow
is nice, but lets not forget its 1 game.
Pargo last year from the bulls also had a 30+ point game as a 2nd round rookie. Lets not go berzerko like the 49ers fans do here in the Bay when “A quarterback” completes one pass.
I want to see this go on for 3 weeks before I say " woohoo ". But it was nice to see Baron’s team sucking major @$$.
Still think dumping Baron was a bad idea? hahaha
Turd sandwich?
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 19, 2008 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
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