don’t like his game much at all either, but you do have to admit he does bring strong intangibles to the team. I don’t like his extension. I think by the time his contract was over we would be able to find a new leader for the team and we could have used the money somewhere else.

Can’t see the forest for the trees?

jax is knows bball and he knows it good, nelly wudnt pley him if he wuznt the shiz, all yall need to lay off jax he fillin up the stat sheet this year!

I would like to see his defense and court vision get better but “Lights Out” Morrow is a great addition to our team

a year or two from now, jackson could be coming off the bench as a role player. why not have a guy like that coming off our bench for years to come?? i’m happy with jacks!!

and task the season to get Ricky Rubio. This dood is not our star player. He just lucky were dumb enough to give him more money. and were paying 9 million to come off the bench, He better bring some trade value to this team, because his asset isn’t worth much at all.

OKAY everyone know that stephen is being asked to do ALOT of things every night

hes asked to be

+point, playmaker
+scorer
+defend the other teams best player

jackson is trying to do things hes never done before and hes not doing THAT BAD, I don’t really agree with the amount of the extension but he def deserves one for what he brings to this team.

Yeah just like you i was yelling curse words at my screen when jax made that pass, but regardless of how badly i felt about him this game he almost got a triple double.

so yeah during the season its inevitable for him to have games like this.

and on the other side we know that there will be games when hes unstoppable

give him credit for what hes done and stop being a summer fan, even kobe has shitty games

and be a summer fan

that means almost every game is a bad game for him shooting.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/bycategory?cat=Fielding&sort=25

he basically leads the league in minutes.

 hes getting older and cannot handle this kind pt day in and day out, YES HE HAD AN OFF GAME but how many clutch shots have you seen him make. how many great dishes to beans have you seen him throw. how many ugly drives have you seen he make and somehow pull out an and 1.

as our team settles in with morrow watch jackson get some good rest and get used to having people to pass to

and he will be at his highest efficiency when monta gets back, when he can mainly focus on

+lockdown D
+spreading the floor with his shot

I concur with everything regarding efficiency and ludacris shot selection. here are my perception on the positives and negatives of capt jacks game.

cons:
BAD SHOT SELECTION/low fg percentage
over rated defender
limited athletesicm
can lose control of his emotions

pros:
chasmatic leader
crazy chemistry w/beidrins
solid ft shooter
he’s a vet’s vet (which makes me ok with the contract)
learning the point in the short term but definately not a long term solution
BRINGS A SWAG everyone feeds off

Look, he has his faults but i saw him shoot 7 for 7 on threes his first year in GS contrary to your comment and realize those days come 1 out of every 20 games. in my opinion he needs to be tamed to harness his pros and limit his cons. i just dont know if its possible for don or anyone for that matter to limit those cons keep the same guys that gets to the foul line when he wants too and most importantly brings that swag. he isnt a #1 option on a team. he is suited to be a 2nd but ideally a 3rd option(on the court). as a leader he is a perfect guy for our youngins to follow and learn from(his mistakes).

Warriorsfiend, I do understand your points about StackJack’s low shooting percentage. However, consider this, since we have acquired Stephen Jackson, our record with Stephen in the lineup is something like 46-27 (.630). One could argue that he has played with great players and that is why the win percentage is so how; but, that same great lineup went 0-6 to start the year without him last year, and the year before that were lost without him.

Stephen Jackson’s game transcends shot attempts and percentages. He brings leadership, toughness, and an actual respect to the idea of being a Warrior. Hammer Jack and this extension all you like, but the guy has helped make it cool to be a Warriors fan again. Don’t get me wrong, I used to love rooting for Gil and J-Rich, and others who have come through the ranks; however, this guy has produced much more than any of those individuals could have imagined.

And lastly, since when has 30 years old become too old to produce. Mark Cuban argued Steve Nash was “too old” to sign at age 30, and Mr. Nash proceeded to win two MVP’s after that; Michael Jordan won three titles in his mid 30’s; John Stockton and Karl Malone achieved success well into their late 30’s. Not saying that Jack is these players, but the guy’s game is not predicated on factors that you lose with age. His game is not about speed or athleticism; his game is about heart, toughness, and knocking down jumpers. I see Jackson being able to play this role for a while longer, and I see a leader who can and will represent a successful Warriors organization. Jack’s signing represents loyalty, something this organization’s fans should know well about…and something that until now, has been left at the wayside by management (see Baron and J-Rich, which Atma covered in depth).

For the production we get from him, and the amount we pay, he’s definitely worth it. He puts up bad shots, but without him our team would be worse off. Blame the bad shots on Nelly if anything, since he hasn’t reeled him in when he gets like that. I wouldnt be suprised if Nelly told Jax to shoot whenever he wanted.

its frustrating to watch jax play most of the time. i think if he wasnt such a selfish player always trying to get his points regardless of how well he is shoting he mite be a better player.

To Stack Jack’s credit though, he did make 7 threes and finished with 31 in game 6 against Dallas in the playoffs 2 years ago.

I know i know… that was a long time ago and it’s more of like “what have you done for me lately?” I know… he takes too many shots and comes out with a low percentage. Let’s not forget he helped turned things around after the Dunmurphy trade. He’s not a superstar leader, but he’s gotten the Dubs somewhere in the past.

is that he takes the ball into traffic expecting the calls. Defenses are tuned into collapsing on him and when they do, he doesn’t get nearly the calls that he thinks he deserves. I’m a Warriors fan, so I’m biased in that I think he should be getting a few more calls, but he doesn’t. The sooner he realizes that and be a little more selective in forcing shots, the better the team will be. But he’s a vet (and plays his way) and as others have said, is learning the pg position which is notoriously difficult. It was good to see that he was looking for others (especially Morrow) last night though. Let’s hope he continues to build on that.

Jackson in the second part of last season shot %38 from 3 point land and had a nice 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio. He also shot 85 percent from the line. Not terribly inefficient. But I have to agree, his shot selection is woeful at times (almost all the time actually) I can only imagine how good he would be if he improved his shot selection and got to the line more. Of course, there were no other shooters besides Monta on the team; this year I’ve been really impressed with Maggette’s ability to positively change the tempo of the game by nailing simple jumpers and getting to the line. Not to mention Morrow. Hopefully, with Monta and the two other good shooters on the team Jack’s poor shot selection will be minimized a bit.

“You can’t be a winning team if stephen jackson is your best player.” Pretty much sums up the whole arguement. He does alot of good things, he does a lot of bad things, but as long as he’s your best player, you’ll never be a contender team, period.

he almost had a TRIPLE DOUBLE!

My take is, you can hate on the extension, but you can’t hate on the player after a good game. Eventually Jack will piss me off, but this year I expect him to still be pretty good.

10 points in the 4th quarter

…that qualifies as clutch…(especially in a 5 point game)

He is one of our 2 (ok…now 3) players who we want shooting free throws at the end of the game…as much as some (ok…A LOT) of his play can be frustrating, he’s the heart of the team and the rallying cry…

you’re just gonna have to live w/ the bad plays he has, too…