RECAP: Warriors 105, Nets 97 – Win #1
by R Dizzle on Nov 2, 2008 11:17 AM PST
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Yeah baby!
Alright, admit it. That game wasn't pretty nor was it that exciting to watch (go free league pass!). But we finally finished a game strong and came out with win #1.
Hit the jump to hear my thoughts about yesterday's game.
Back to back games do not fair well
It was pretty obvious that all of our guys were extremely tired off Friday night's loss. The energy in the IZOD Center was low and Maggette and Jackson both were slower and played with less energy than usual. Yet somehow they both pulled out 41 minutes and 20+ points. Good work guys, and something must have clicked last night cause they both finished the game strong.
The kids
Brandan Wright - 7 minutes, 0 points, 1 block, and 1 foul? This was supposed to equal J-Rich? Right...
CJ Watson - Nellie finally decided to give CJ some good burn, and he played decently. He still needs to work on the FTs (50% from the line?) but he's developing slowly but surely. Mad props for taking it strong to the hoop and drawing fouls. Just make sure to not get destroyed by Brook Lopez next time.
DeMarcus Nelson - I've been pretty critical of him to this point, but he put up some good numbers yesterday - 4 for 6, 9 points, and 3 assists. In a few more games we'll be able to tell if this guy's got what it takes to keep the starting PG. He's learning quickly and he deserves his props.
You deserve better Vince. You deserve better.
I thought we were young...
Where at the vets on the Nets? This team is YOUNG. Lotta talent, but no experience and it showed last night. Vince and Josh Boone played well, but what about the others? Yi? 18 mins and 0 points? Where you at man?
At least boy Eduardo Najera brought it hard. Right...
The game just felt SLOW. I thought we were down the whole time seeing as though The Dubs brought no energy. But hey, apparently the Nets didn't either.
Opening Night at the IZOD Center is like going to Urkel's Birthday Party
Where the heck was everyone?
Wasn't that supposed to be Opening Night in New Jersey? Where was the free giveaway? Where was the excitement? Man, I would hate to be a part of the New Jersey team with no one supporting them!
Where's Jay-Z at? Go talk to LeBron and start building that new stadium in Brooklyn man...
IZOD Center out, screamin' out money ain't a thang!
On the road again!
One more game to this road trip. The Grizzlies have another young and talented team and it'll be interesting to see how the Warriors match up to em. Hopefully the day off gives everyone some much needed energy.
Andris Biedrins. Hustled hard for the third game in the row and brought it with 23 points, 11 boards, and 2 blocks. I said it after Friday's game and I'll say it again, there is confidence in this kid this year. Three double-double's in a row? Good work.
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Andris
you forgot to mention his most impressive stat!!! 7 of 8 from the line!?!?!!
… soon he’ll be taking our technical free throws!!!
by Run Dubz on Nov 2, 2008 11:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of free throws
Demarcus Nelsons free throws look terrible
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Nov 2, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
beans
the only thing that should limit him this year is foul trouble. if he keeps the fouls low there’s absolutely no reason he should be taken off the floor for long periods of time
by AJC3317 on Nov 2, 2008 11:50 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Probably explains turiaf's short playing time
Since Andris only had 3 fouls, Turiaf only played 12 mins.
Regarding dnelson, only issue is his free throwing.
by mosdl on Nov 2, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fears that without Baron to get him the ball Biedrins would become more and more of an offensive non-entity seeing his FG% and scoring drop seem to have been unfounded.
by jae on Nov 2, 2008 12:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i'll admit....
that i really thought biedrins’ numbers would plummet this year.. glad to see i was wrong.. keep it up AB, you’re our 20 and 10 a night guy…
screw cohan, screw mullin, screw baron
by DMJR on Nov 2, 2008 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sample Size of...
Three.
Nonetheless very impressive offensive output from Biedrins. Too bad his D’s still soft.
by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 2, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we ignoring all of his international competition on purpose?
What does the guy have to do to earn your respect? Change his name to Jason Richardson and start chucking up 3s?
I hate Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, and Russel Peters because they make fun of white people like me. They also make fun of other kinds of people, which hurts me deep down because my ancestry is so mixed that I don't know what my official "race" is... so I get offended for all races!
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 3, 2008 1:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Biedrins
He’s definitely come a long way.
He was able to put up pretty good numbers against Chandler and O’Neal/Bosh. And was exceptional against NJ’s inexperienced front court.
by lightz0ut on Nov 2, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Reason Why The Game Wasn't Really 'Exciting'...
I noticed on your post you mentioned that it wasn’t really exciting, I was also thinking that when I was watching the game. I think the reason it was like that was because the New Jersey crowd sucks. Usually, road games are fun to watch because the crowd is against you. With the Warriors, it’s always fun watching the team shut the crowd up; the home team does real good and the crowd goes wild, and then the Warriors go on a scoring burst and take the lead back while shutting the crowd up. I remember Baron throwing long alley-oops to J-Rich during road games to make the crowd sit down and be jealous about how Golden State’s team is more exciting than whatever team that crowd is rooting for.
Also, those Stephen Jackson three pointers are a real silencer as well, especially when Jax starts screaming afterwards. But yeah, in New Jersey, it didn’t really have a “Us against the world” type of atmosphere. The Toronto crowd was great, though. They got all loud when Bosh blocked Magette’s shot, but then they got quiet once Harrington retrieved the blocked ball and shot the three. hahaha.
And also, Kevin Harlan labeled the Warriors as an ‘upper echelon’ team. During the GS/NJ game, he mentioned how even though the Nets are playing at home, it’s still hard for them “since they are going to start off playing squads like Golden State, Phoenix and Detroit which are upper echelon teams”. I guess that was pretty cool to hear too.
by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 2, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
do you think he was serious about that?
… or was he just BS-ing to make the blow easier for people watching this Nets game?
screw cohan, screw mullin, screw baron
by DMJR on Nov 2, 2008 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So... 0-2 is upper echelon nowadays?
I knew the NBA was letting below average teams into the playoffs, but calling winless teams “upper echelon” is pretty low.
I hate Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, and Russel Peters because they make fun of white people like me. They also make fun of other kinds of people, which hurts me deep down because my ancestry is so mixed that I don't know what my official "race" is... so I get offended for all races!
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 3, 2008 1:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nellie
He should start playing Anthony Randolph. Playing Jackson 40+ minutes a game will just slow him down as the season goes on. Remember what happened last season?
But it’s ok for now since it’s still the beginning of the season. Hopefully we can use our depth more later on into the season. Depends on who we get for Harrington if we trade him.
by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 2, 2008 2:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I do think that playing Jackson so many minutes will result in him wearing down, but that doesn’t really tell us that Randolph should play more. It just tells us that someone should play more. Randolph didn’t look ready in college and didn’t look ready in the preseason. If more minutes are going to be given to someone, Azubuike seems far more ready to take them.
One reason to not fear Jackson wearing down as much as the season wears on: In a couple of months, we’re going to get a big boost back at the guard position by the name of Monta Ellis.
by jae on Nov 2, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Monta Ellis....
I head he’s getting screws placed in his ankle? that can’t be good… what if he turned from the “Little Engine that Could”, into the “Little Engine that Couldn’t?”
screw cohan, screw mullin, screw baron
by DMJR on Nov 2, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Randolph
While I agree that Azubuike should get most of those minutes, Nellie should also find a way to get AR on the floor.
Yes, watching him try to get past defenders is just about as nerve wracking as watching SJax do the same thing but he’s not gonna get ready riding the bench. I’m still on a wait-and-see approach though, I mean we went against some pretty good teams the first 2 games and the score was pretty close too. I thought he could’ve have gotten time last night but considering the circumstances (looking for our first win, lead was not safe) I can understand not throwing him in there. Still, the more minutes he can log this season the sooner he’ll be ready to take on a bigger role for the team.
by lightz0ut on Nov 2, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not entirely sold on the notion that a player needs minutes to improve. I think it depends greatly on what the player’s particular problems are. If it’s learning the tendencies of the league, adjusting to the pace of the game, getting confidence in abilities, then yet, more PT is necessary. The feedback a player needs for these deficiencies is going to come from playing. But if it’s a matter of either working on particular skills and/or curbing some bad habits, then the practice court is probably the place to address it. My gut on Randolph is that he’s got the physical tools. Sure, he’ll need to adjust to the speed of the game, the strength of other players, to figure out tendencies of opponents and teammates, but right now, I think playing him could reinforce bad habits as much as it will help him. From what I’ve seen, his biggest problems are decision making. He turns the ball over by forcing things on his own and by taking tough shots that he should pass off on. These were problems for him in college -big problems and the reason that a top 3 or 4 athlete was taken #14- but his raw athleticism meant that he could contribute in a big way in spite of this. I suspect that in some sense, he reinforced the bad habits with more playing time. More playing time won’t necessarily teach him at this point any faster than working on these things in scrimmages.
Let’s not confuse what the player needs (to improve his game) with what we want (to see the player in hopes that said player will be the break out contributor/starter/star that we hope). I think that far too many fans are blinding by desire and rationalize reasons to see a guy who isn’t ready to contribute even if it’s not the best for both team and player.
by jae on Nov 2, 2008 6:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you're reading too much into this
I see it as the same thing from last year with Belinelli and BWright:
“The starter commits mistakes sometimes, but I never see the rookie riding pine commit mistakes. We drafted him high, so he must be good right? Put him in and see what he can do!”
You’ll never get through to them… just stop trying.
I hate Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, and Russel Peters because they make fun of white people like me. They also make fun of other kinds of people, which hurts me deep down because my ancestry is so mixed that I don't know what my official "race" is... so I get offended for all races!
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 3, 2008 1:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a statisitic about yesterday's game
pops out. I look at the team stats and I see:
Rebounds (Offensive-Total) 22-36 9-25
The first column is the Warriors.
This is a huge plus. Last year the team was struggling to get rebounds, today, we have a much better rebounding team. We almost had more offensive rebounds than the Nets had total. That’s very important.
Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement
by StSaints408 on Nov 2, 2008 3:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Biedrins double-double all season
Biendrins will do that all season. Good for the team and good for fantasy too that’s 3-4 categories for him.
Also, I wish Don would keep Captain Jack’s minutes down to about 35-40 min.
Flame me for this but I never liked Magette, but he does add rebounds for our team. I’m sure that Randolph and Belinelli will have a lot of DNP this season, but I hope not, I want to see those 2 play so bad.
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
by chili01 on Nov 2, 2008 8:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And FTs
And efficient scoring. What exactly don’t you like about the guy? Do you dislike him because he was a Clipper? I don’t get it. You like raw, unproven rookies, but you don’t like a proven veteran who is consistently one of the top 5 efficient scorers in the league. Something doesn’t make sense here. I bet you like penny stocks too.
I hate Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, and Russel Peters because they make fun of white people like me. They also make fun of other kinds of people, which hurts me deep down because my ancestry is so mixed that I don't know what my official "race" is... so I get offended for all races!
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 3, 2008 1:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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