Al for friggin Malik Rose?
by Jagz8 on Nov 21, 2008 2:36 AM PST
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I found this while looking for the most recent articles and it looks like we are getting Malik Rose in an apparent salary dump deal. I mean Al Harrington is no star, but there has to be someone out there who wants him who could give the W's back someone skilled enough to help us right now and not just an old geezer who is just here to collect paychecks and then be off the books next year... Disappointing if this is indeed the trade, but personally I liked the Jamal Crawford deal better.
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Just saw this.
Really? Oh well, expiring contract that wouldn’t play anyways.
But really, what were we expecting?
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interesting
and somewhat disappointing.
To be honest, i didn’t even know he was still in the league.
I pray i never have to use a gun again...
...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...
...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...
...But how often does that happen??
Awesome.
I actually kinda like Crawford: a big guy who can play PG; a guy whose plus/minus numbers the last few years indicate a positive impact, despite the low FG%; probably the toughest guy on that woeful team.
Still, I didn’t see how he fit in the Monta-Buki-Morrow-Jack equation, even if he got all of CJ’s minutes. Rose is exactly the “bag of balls with an expiring” we’d been hoping for. Now we get to bide our time, see how the rotation shakes out on Monta’s return, and flip Rose (ideally with Marco) for a player we really want and need.
Well done, Mulson, or whoever runs things in the asylum these days…
OBAMA AMABO
Put another way: Malik Rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.
(As long as he came with an expiring contract).
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by Sleepy Freud on Nov 21, 2008 6:25 AM PST up reply actions
Also
I would guess Malik is buds with Cap’n Jack from their SA days, which should be a plus for team chemistry, if nothing else. He has a couple o’ rings, and used to be a solid defender and rebounder, so maybe he can teach the kids a thing or two in practice.
As long as Nellie’s never, ever tempted to give him meaningful minutes…
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by Sleepy Freud on Nov 21, 2008 6:30 AM PST up reply actions
ya I'll take the expiring contract
we can use that money to get a better player in FA.
I just hope something concrete comes out soon so we can stop the speculation
btw i'd like to add
Malik Rose is going to be a really nice trade chip near the trade deadline. Some losing team will probably be looking to do a Pau Gasol salary dump type trade so Rose would be the perfect chip if that opportunity presents itself.
mulson should try and push for nate robinson
and stick in marcus williams if they want a pg in return. all 4 contracts expire at the same time and the numbers match
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sometimes people don’t want to talk hoops, they just come here to act a fool.
MILWAUKEE – Our Peter Vecsey is reporting Donnie Walsh being on the verge of making 6-9 forward Al Harrington a Knick, probably in exchange for Malik Rose’s expiring contract. Vecsey is reporting the Harrington deal is expected to be officially consummated with Golden State Friday morning.
sometimes people don’t want to talk hoops, they just come here to act a fool.
Vecsey??? Oh no he is usuallu wrong.
Looks like the Crawford rumors have better sources.
by smearthebeard on Nov 21, 2008 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
isnt having rose
the same as Harrington? they both have similar contracts assuming Al would opt at the end of the year.
Since Harrington would have opted out, isn't keeping him on the inactive list
a better expiring deal than Rose? Unless Nelson has some use for Malik Rose (remember when he used to kill the Warriors as a Spurs player?) this is a cave-in move.
Straight numbers-wise, Harrington’s $9.3m is coming off the books is better than Rose’s $7.6m expiring so I don’t see this as great unless there is a pick involved. This is a great deal for the Knicks.
I see why the Warriors couldn’t do what I am suggesting. It would compound the bad reputation that the Warriors front office is gaining by their handling of the Ellis situation.
I still think they could tell Al that they are going to keep him inactive unless he follows instructions and then force him to opt at the end and get his $9.3 off of the books. I think Al would buy back in and this would be forgotten by the off-season.
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by bloodsweatndonuts on Nov 21, 2008 7:59 AM PST reply actions
CAP SPACE?
Hasn’t this current regime proven that cap space means nothing? Didn’t we move J-Rich so we could sign guys like Baron down the road? If we eat Malik Rose, I guarantee we don’t sign anyone substantial and use the current backloaded contracts excuse. If I KNEW we’d pick up a decent player next offseason – sure, do it. But if we do nothing with it, give me Crawford and his 20ppg and 45% from threes.
Nothing > Harrington
With the presence of Maggette, and Morrow’s and BWright’s blossoming, Harrington is net negative on this team. Who cares what we get for him, as long as it doesn’t hurt our cap position and isn’t an annoying malcontent?
Inexpensive garbage in, expensive garbage out = great deal for us.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 21, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Just realized this had already been posted....
I was to into the crawford deal…lol…this is crap! I went for being excited to saying…..WTF!
I could see him paired with morrow
Morrow can go for 20 a night it seems, and Rose can rebound, which we are missing.
I am guessing he’ll come of the bench. Not too shabby.
No, he is too shabby.
You’re imagining the Malik Rose from a few years ago. The current Rose can’t rebound, or do anything else of value. Brandan Wright is currently 10,000,000 times the player Malik Rose is. Basically Rose is worthless, except as an expiring contract and a kindly veteran presence happy to enjoy his courtside seats. Which is to say: a fantastic haul for Al Harrington and his whining and his remaining 2/$20M.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 21, 2008 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
All Vecsey heard
was the the Knicks were getting Al, He just was guessing who the Knicks would then give up, there are no sources to who it actually being Malik. If you read the articles it makes it clear, he is just guessing on who the Knicks might give up.
Vecesy is like the Pied Piper for the mentally challenged.
Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.
by bloodsweatndonuts on Nov 21, 2008 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Malik Rose...
…is useless as a basketball player. The contract does expire, so I suppose that’s something, and the Warriors are in an awkward predicament of having a very deep young team that doesn’t have a lot of minutes open for a guy to come in anyways. You’re not going to make a trade for a guy like Crawford when you have Morrow, Jackson, Azubuike, and Eliis returning. That’s too many guys who need minutes to produce. Crawford is uniquely redundant amongst that group, as well.
If Don Nelson ever, though, EVER plays Malik Rose ahead of Brandan Wright, I’ll lose it.
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