Once again... Randolph!
by Gurthy on Nov 22, 2008 1:37 PM PST
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This guy is a freak of Nature. Rookie mistakes yes. But unbelievable hustle plays and athletic moves? This guy should be getting more PT than Morrow. He gobbles up rebounds, He protects the paint, And best of all... he's got that killer instinct on O and D.
I've been saying it all season. Play this guy!
Nelly's quote after the Bulls game - "Maybe it's time to start playing him a little bit."
Ya Think?!?!
Start Randolph over Morrow.... period. He doesn't need to play 30+ minutes, but he and Beidrins will anchor the D right from the start.
Starting lineup -
PG - Crawford
SG - Jax
SF - Maggette
PF - Randolph
C - Beidrins
That is one hell of a line up. All 5 of these guys have Allstar capabilities. DO IT NELLY
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Him + Ronny
have the best hustle
Hasheem "The Beat" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.
by ejdacanay on Nov 22, 2008 1:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m all for seeing the rookies in action, but there is simply not enough minutes to go around in games, esspecially when the games we’re losing is within a 5 point deficit.
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Nov 22, 2008 1:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Tough call
I’d like to see Morrow play more to see if he’s really the real deal and just had one bad night, or if his breakout performances were flukes. On the other hand, Randolph’s performance last night makes me want to give him a longer look too. I think JustSomeName is right, not enough minutes to go around.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 22, 2008 2:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we all know Morrow can shoot, but as we saw from last night’s game vs the Bulls, if his shot isn’t dropping, he doesn’t offer very much else. He can’t play D very well, not that good of a ball handler, and doesn’t dish out any dimes. He is however, a pretty good rebounder for a guard.
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Nov 22, 2008 2:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
watch out
this season he be putting up 8-9points, 6rebounds, 1-2assists, and 1blks and steals per a game. It going to lead him to a 2nd team nba all rookie team.
by warriorfan4life on Nov 22, 2008 2:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Morrow
He had an off night but a couple shots were in-n-out and he forced one or two but I bet he bounces back. Randolph wow … Freak? The thing I noticed though on both the lay up he made where he went in between the legs on nocioni then also on the dunk he missed is that he can’t elevate off his left leg! naturally cause he is left handed he elevates much better off his right. For example when monta jumps off 1 foot it is always his left cause he is right handed. So stick to one footed dunks off your right leg and you will be fine. Oh and marcus Williams should never play in a warriors uniform again.
by FeartheBeard4 on Nov 22, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah
It’s weird. He gets UUUUPPPP on all those crazy blocks and rebounds, but on most of his dunks it looked like he barely took off. He couldn’t really elevate, he’s 6’10" but it looked like he was only able to get about half his palm above the rim when he was attempting to dunk.
Why does it seem like missed dunks costs us games? Biedrins missed dunk that would have put us up 13 and a lot of momentum against the Pistons, and now the missed Randolph dunk that would have elevated the Warriors’ comeback.
by Five Ten Entertainment on Nov 22, 2008 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you are wrong about randolph jump.
he jumps of his left foot better. it is not all that unusual for left handed player to have stronger left jumping foot as well, i knew a couple of people that were like that.
even jim barnett pointed that out in the game.
also on that missed dunk he jumped from the middle of 3sec key, so that was a hell of a jump. gooden moved in as if drew was gonna foul when he was going up, so he lost focus on his dunk and did not complete it.
by farid on Nov 22, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rudolph's last night line
13 minutes
10 points (4-7, 2-2)
9 boards
4 blocks
1 steal
1 dime
I’m waiting for JAE to explain how a guy routinely capable of lines like that can possibly end up a bust.
It’s not just the sick physical skills — he also seems to have crazy fire in the belly (to the extent that he has a “belly.”) I’ll leave it up to Mulson to decide how quickly or slowly to bring him along, but barring injury, I just can’t see how he doesn’t blow up big time. Maybe not this month, or even this year, but soon.
Would I trade Randolph for Kevin Durant, straight up, right now, no questions asked? I honestly don’t think I would.
Rudolph, with your star so bright, won’t you guide our sleigh tonight…?
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 22, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
come on dude,
you would trade Randolph for Durant. Kevin Durant is awesome. Just a good player stuck with a horrible coach, with horrible players around him, and in a horrible franchise, in a horrible city(apologies to Zorgon).
Still I don’t see how this kid with so much raw talent, athletism, and a ridiculuos hunger can be a bust the only question is how good will he be.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i would not trade randolph for kobe
who is durant?
randolph is gonna be better than anyone expects right now, in my opinion
by farid on Nov 22, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Um Durant,
is a 20 year kid that is averaging 21 points a game on a team that has no other offense options.(Meaning opposing defenses can just zone in on Durant) I figure your kiding about the Kobe comment.
Look I likeRandolph a much as the next guy, and I am so excited about having this kid. I would like to see Nellie give him 10-20 mins a game. Lets see what he does over one year before we start making his Hall of Fame bust or even an All Star jersey, is all I am saying.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to turn another thread into a Durant debate
But on a per minute basis, Randolph is averaging seven times as many blocks and almost four times as many boards as Durant this season. Yes, you read that right:
Reb/36: Randolph, 15.8, Durant 4.2
Blk/36: Randolph 3.8, Durant 0.5
Yeah, it’s a very small sample size for Randolph, but it’s getting to be a biggish sample size for Durant: close to 100 games with roughly those numbers — pathetic for a guy of his size and athleticism.
As for the “but he’s a guard” argument: the problem is, guards don’t average twice as many turnovers (3.6 per 36 min) as assists (1.9). He’s a pretty good shooter and scorer. At this point, that’s all he is, and he’s terrible at everything else. After his amazing Freshman year, I expected much, much more.
Unless Durant changes his bad habits quick, and until Randolph shows me he has some kind of a ceiling, I personally don’t make that swap.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 22, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow,
come on Sleepy. I dont want to make this Durant debate either but your comparing rebounds and block shots between a fetured shooting guard and rookie 6-10 combo forward. Durant plays 36+ a game where as Randolph probably is just over 36 minutes in his nba career. It is hard to develop good habbits, when your the only NBA level talent on the team.( Yes thats a minor overstatement used here to emphasize my point.) This kid is being asked to do anything and everything for the team right now, not learn the fundamentals and take it one step at a time.
Is there a chance the AR will be the better player, sure, and I sincerely hope it does happens, but Durant, 20 years old(with horrible coach etc,) , is on the brink of stardom.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and yes I know that PJ got fired,
Im not to ‘big’ on Scotty Brooks either.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, agree to disagree
We’ll save it for the next Durant thread, when we have a bit more data to go by. One more, just for fun:
Plusminus
Durant 08/09: minus 6.7
Durant 07/08: minus 8.8
Randolph 08/09: plus 11.7
Obviously the book’s still very much out on Randolph, but with each passing game, the line that Durant’s on the “brink of stardom” rings pretty hollow.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 22, 2008 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Durant plays on possibly the worst team in the history of the NBA.
Playoffs!!??
by PAWarrior on Nov 22, 2008 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
And yet somehow his terrible team is measurably less terrible when he’s off the floor. If he were actually anything like a “star” his team wouldn’t be nearly as terrible. Check out how he terrible 78/79 Celtics (29-53) did after adding Larry Bird and very little else (hint: 61-21).
Meanwhile, another sublimely Durant-like line last night, despite fantastic shooting:
39 minutes
30 points (11-16, 7-8, very nice)
4 rebounds
0 assists
0 blocks
0 steals
5 turnovers
And another thing: one personal foul? It wouldn’t mean much in and of itself, but together with the lack of boards, blocks, and steals, it suggests a depressing lack of effort. You wanna see what a real star does with his 40-some minutes? Check out CP3’s line from the game:
44 minutes
29 points (11-17, 6-7)
10 rebounds
16 assists
3 steals
1 block
2 turnovers
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 23, 2008 1:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying he's a savior
Just that his plus minus vs. Randolph’s doesn’t carry too much weight.
Playoffs!!??
by PAWarrior on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
Because AR’s only played 75 pro minutes.
But KD’s plusminus numbers do carry a ton of weight. Plusminus measures the difference in a team’s production when a player is on court v. off. AFAIK, the overall crappiness of the team has nothing do with it. The Thunder/Sonics, crappy as they are, have been better when Durant is sitting. That’s … worrisome.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 23, 2008 5:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We are going to have to disagree on this,
really quickly,comparing Durant to Larry Bird is a bit of a stretch. The Thunder have the worst point differential per game as a team. When Durant is out there he is out there against the other team’s first line players and they usually rack up the score, when he is out the other teams sceond team probably is out there and the probaly are not running the score up as much.(Yes thats a major inference without any facts to back it up, just a possible suggesstion why his the team’s plus minus is better with him on the floor). Lets save the debate till we play the OKC Thunder next.
Anyway we can agree on that it is amazing to watch AR’s swagger on the floor. He has that look that he belongs on the court with the big boys, and his aggresiveness is amazing. I;m hoping to see him get atleast 15 minutes today.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 23, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Durant v. Bird
In what way is it a stretch? They’re quite comparable, imo. Both were billed as franchise-type do-it-all forwards coming out of college. Bird took a crappy team 29-53 team and immediately made them a 61-21 team, basically single-handedly (same basic pieces as the previous season, but for the addition of ML Carr, a role player). Durant, charged with the same task, has not just not improved his team by 32 games, but has actually made them worse.
It’s not just that Durant isn’t as good as Bird — that’s to be expected, especially given his tender age coming out of college. But he isn’t remotely in the same universe. Put simply: a true franchise player in his second full NBA season doesn’t allow his team to be the worst team in the league.
As long as we’re having this debate, what case exactly are you trying to make for Durant? That his numbers so far are promising? That he might still be a franchise player capable of leading his team to a championship? That he probably won’t be a franchise player, but he still could be a fearsome one-dimensional shooter/scorer, like Rashard Lewis? I’m totally on board with the third of those. The first two … not so much.
On topic: rough night for Rudolph tonight. He’s obviously still very raw, not nearly as polished a product as Durant. But so far I haven’t seen the same limitations in his game (in rebounding, D, or distributing) that we’re starting to see in Durant’s.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 23, 2008 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think the problem with Durant is OKC's insistence he plays 2
he should at least be a 3, where he’ll be quicker or at least as quick as most 3’s. he’ll be able to drive more easily and they’ll give him more room to shoot his jumper. and he’ll be closer to the hoop for rebounds.
his ultimate position would be at the 4 (where he’d be a total mismatch machine), but he’s just not bulky enough to defend most 4’s.
it’s too bad he was forced to play so early (and at the 2) he’s developed quite a few bad habits.
by the evil monkey on Nov 23, 2008 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Franchise Player vs. Top 5 of all time,
There are several franchise players in the NBA, Dwayne Wade was a franchise player and his team had the worst record in the NBA last year. You said it yourself, if it wasnt for the modern standard of young players in the NBA, Kevin Durant would be a well polished junior who could come into the NBA and dominate from the get go next year. However the new trend, is players are drafted with only raw potential and are expected to develop in the NBA. College is more of a showcase of raw talent and skills to get drafted. I think you have to take into account the ‘it’ factor. I think Durant has it, he is a clutch player and is really a winner. But Bird was in another realm, he is up there with Jordan and Garnett with ‘it’, the desire to win above everything else. I dont think this is a fair compariosion. Durant has absolutley a horrid team and horrid coaching staff around him. If OKC can put something that resembles a quality team around him with a competent coach, he will be one of the greats of the NEXT generation.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 23, 2008 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Garnett
I actually think his “it” is quite different from Bird’s or Jordan’s or Magic’s “it.” He’s definitely 110% driven, but I don’t think he’s a demand-the-ball and humiliate-your-opponent leader like they are. He’s often come up small in the clutch, especially on offense. I sometimes think he’s too much of a sweetie deep down to ever be a stone-cold killer like MJ.
At the same time, his “it” has always included a deep, deep understanding of the value of defense, rebounding, and teamwork … three things Durant seems so far not to get at all.
I’m sure it’s fair to lay some of the blame on his coaches, but I think you undercut your solid points by not laying any of it squarely on the kid himself. Even given his tender age and crappy team, he could and should be doing much, much better.
But don’t take my word for it … check out Dave Berri’s Wages of Wins, which recent posted an update on Kevin Durant and his mediocre NBA start.
Last season Durant was above average with respect to taking shots, blocking shots, hitting free throws, and avoiding personal fouls. He was also a little bit above average on the boards. With respect to all other stats, though, he was below average.
After 10 games this season Durant has the same profile. But now he has declined further with respect to every statistic except for shot attempts and personal fouls. Yes, Durant went from bad to really bad (and yet, his Player Efficiency Rating is still above average).
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 23, 2008 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
with all respect to Dave Berri,
I completely disagree.
As a personal favor, Sleepy, can you stick to the original argumant, would you trade AR for Durant. I cant and wont make the argument Durant vs Bird, but the fact that you chall,enge me and others to make the argument speaks wonders about his game. See Iverson, Allen. People would talk so much trash about his fg pct, and what not, but he is the best post Jordan Player. And yes I said it, He is better than Oneal or Bryant or anybody else. (I will hear an argument for Duncan and Garnett).
Back to the original argumennt, do you really want to crown AR ass? He is what I thought he would be. I super talented player, that is very raw. Lets not get overly excited on a few games….
Bottom Line, Durant is a franchise(not a franchise player, but a guy that the whole city is banking on)while AR is nice little project we have going on.
AGAIN, I love AR, and want him to be Scottie Pippen but better. But at this point I would trade AR, Marco, a first and whatever other scrubs they wanted for Durant without second doubt.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 23, 2008 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Iverson, Allen. People would talk so much trash about his fg pct, and what not, but he is the best post Jordan Player.
You just lost any credibility you had with this statement. Iverson is my favorite player but he’s not as good as Lebron, Kobe, Duncan, probably Wade and others.
Back to Durant, of course I’d trade rudolf for him, a ready to play former number one versus a raw number what? Rudolf has promise if he can learn to play to his strengths and stop trying to be Pippin. If he ever learns to smile he might loosen up a bit and make it happen, for now he’s just trying too hard to be more than he should be.
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 23, 2008 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your right,
I possibly did when I brought up a brand new argument uo in the fray, and a one that I didnt really back up whatso ever.
BUT, I will take solice in the fact that you too would trade our prodigy for the real deal,in AR for DURANT.
AGAIN, I love AR and hope that he can shows sign of being a NBA player first, then taking it to that next level.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 23, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
um so,
that uo is actually an up
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 23, 2008 11:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As a personal favor, Sleepy, can you stick to the original argumant, would you trade AR for Durant.
Call me crazy, but I think it’s pretty relevant to that argument to point out that Durant, by any measure you want to choose, has not had a good NBA career, don’t you think? The answer to your question is yes, not because I’m 100% sold on AR, but because I’m about 90% sold Durant will never be more than a glorified scorer.
I’ve given you a bunch of evidence that Durant hasn’t been good. You still haven’t given anything, beyong platitudes like “Durant is a franchise.”
I cant and wont make the argument Durant vs Bird, but the fact that you chall,enge me and others to make the argument speaks wonders about his game.
Nah. The only similarity is in the hype they had coming out of college. In terms of perfomance and game, there is no comparison. Durant’s much closer to Andrea Bargnani than he is to Bird at this point.
See Iverson, Allen. People would talk so much trash about his fg pct, and what not, but he is the best post Jordan Player. And yes I said it, He is better than Oneal or Bryant or anybody else. (I will hear an argument for Duncan and Garnett).
LOL — see Skeptic’s comments. The interesting thing is that Iverson, while twice the player Durant is, is overrated for precisely the same reason: because he hoists a ton of shots and scores a ton of points. If you actually believe Iverson is in the same universe as Shaq, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m not talking about star quality, or any of that BS, talking strictly about contributions to winning. I could provide you a whole bunch of stats that show AI can’t carry Shaq’s jock (among them Shaq’s four rings) but I suspect you’d still believe what you wanna believe.
Back to the original argumennt, do you really want to crown AR ass?
Again, no: I don’t want to crown his ass or his head or his shiny nose or any other part of him. I just thnk he’s got much more potential as an all-around player who can rebound and defend than Durant does.
AGAIN, I love AR, and want him to be Scottie Pippen but better. But at this point I would trade AR, Marco, a first and whatever other scrubs they wanted for Durant without second doubt.
Fine. I think that’s a totally reasonable stance. You totally undercut it by not admitting any of Durant’s shortcomings — and by even mentioning Iverson in the same breath as Shaq.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 24, 2008 2:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*oops
I mean the answer to your question is “No.” I guess I did lose track of the question… ;-)
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 24, 2008 5:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt trade Randolph
for anybody right now other than Lebron. I’m Serious. 6’10 Point Guards don’t grow on trees
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Nov 22, 2008 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
6’10 Point Guards don’t grow on trees
and there’s a reason for that :>) It’s called evolution , natures way of matching the object to the environment.
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 22, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But
That’s where mommy said I came from. I grew on a tree in Africa (where all people come from), and when I got big enough, a stork carried me in my little blankie to my mommy.
Are you saying my mommy’s lying to me?
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 24, 2008 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying my mommy’s lying to me?
Probably but the point is high dribbles are not as good as low dribbles, the longer the guy the slower he can move his arms and legs. Conversely the taller the guy the better he can rebound and dunk. Wilt would not have been a good player if he thought he was a point guard.
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 24, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sure glad no one told Magic that
seriously though, who is expecting Randolph, at 6’10, to really become a Point Guard?! we should be satisfied if he can evolve into a competent SF
by hardcore on Nov 24, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
whatever your smoking,
quit now before you become permanently delusional.
by the evil monkey on Nov 23, 2008 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
whoops
whatever you’re smoking,
by the evil monkey on Nov 23, 2008 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
on a per minute basis, Randolph is averaging seven times as many blocks and almost four times as many boards as Durant this season.
And if Rudolf had played as many minutes as Durant he’d hurt himself by now. He is out of control half the time, he jumped right in front of one of the bulls last night and was lucky to not to get flattened. He reminds me a a young great dane who’s gotten out and trying to play with the other puppies and keeps running them over. Once he learns to play at a sustainable pace and stops trying to do the MJ thing he might be a good player but his college record doesn’t look very impressive compared to Durant’s? Looks like rudolf would be smart to concentrate on the shot blocking thing as it is hard to turn the ball over in that situation.
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 22, 2008 9:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not sure if you like college basketball,
but the Texas vs Texas Tech, AC Law IV vs Kevin Durant was possibly the best regular season college game I have ever seen.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Try Texas vs Ok State
from two years ago with Durant
Playoffs!!??
by PAWarrior on Nov 22, 2008 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you mean texas a+m
thats who Acie law played for
by FeartheBeard4 on Nov 22, 2008 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My bad....
I meant Texas A & M. Sorry about that.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
best game
was the shootout between texas and tennessee, kevin durant and chris lofton (before his cancer surgery) 2 years ago
by runeknightx on Nov 23, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
naturally cause he is left handed he elevates much better off his right.
Not necessarily, I’m left handed and I jump off my left foot. but I also shoot with my right hand!
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 22, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, me too
I’m amphibious. lol.
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
by olympicmike on Nov 22, 2008 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You live in water?
Like frogs, and salamanders? Do you mean Ambidextrous?
If I am wrong i will respond with a D'Oh
by StephenO4 on Nov 22, 2008 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant that
he has both lungs and gills. Lucky Guy!
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys...
Here’s a quote for you:
Basketball player Chris Washburn, commenting on his ability to drive to the basket, “Yeah, I can go to my right and my left. That’s because I’m amphibious.”
Haha, next time give me a little credit.
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
by olympicmike on Nov 23, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't a guy try to be funny?
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
by olympicmike on Nov 23, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, some reading for the young...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Washburn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_NBA_Draft
And we thought that Dunleavy was a waste of a 3rd overall pick…
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
by olympicmike on Nov 23, 2008 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it was a mistake from somewhere,
I couldnt remeber if it was a NBA or NFL player. I was pretty sure you were messing around. : )
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 23, 2008 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
I was born in the 90’s =]
What did Jim Barnett say Monta Ellis was? Something about the ability to jump equally well off either Foot? Whats that called?
If I am wrong i will respond with a D'Oh
by StephenO4 on Nov 23, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Yeah, I can’t remember what he said but that one was pretty funny. Maybe someone else will remember.
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
by olympicmike on Nov 23, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now, come on...
I still don’t like reverting back to this small ball crap. Maggette’s done alright so far against the PF’s Nelson’s had him up against but what do we do when someone like Stoudemire comes to town? I think he should start Watson, Maggette, Jackson, Wright, and Biedrins, and bring Morrow and Randolph off the bench alot more. And come on, Marcus Williams didn’t even get a chance to play bad the other night. If you really looked at it, the shots he took weren’t even bad shots, they just didn’t fall. However, let’s not forget it was Anthony Morrow’s fourth game, and one he played over thirty minutes in, when he finally scored 37. He needs to come off the bench alot more, too.
by GSBoi86 on Nov 22, 2008 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I say
Give Maggette a shot until he is proven wrong. PF’s always kill us mostly because they outmuscle anybody we throw on them. And obviously maggette has strength so I say throw him on the opposing power forward until he is proven wrong. Anthony Randolph’s D looked nasty last night, he looks like he takes pride in it which is 65% of what defense is.
by FeartheBeard4 on Nov 22, 2008 3:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice lineup Gurthy...
I’d like to see your combo on the floor at some point. Depending on the matchup, Maggette could defend the opponents 4 man so Randolph doesn’t get muscled. By adding Crawford I see many potentially interesting lineup possibilities.
by Jeffo on Nov 22, 2008 3:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Multiple Positions,
Nellie loves guys who can play them. The great thing about nellie is there really are no clear cut positions, Jack, Maggete, Crawford, Buike, Randolph, Wright(Nellie says he’ll play 4 and 5) and Ellis. We can just plug anybody in there with Andris, Turiaf, or possibly Wright and just let em go.
The big worry with Crawford and Ellis’s return is are there enough minutes and enough shots to go around.
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember...
The announcers kept saying how Randolph was “inhaling” rebounds. I kept imagining him being pink, round, and sucking in balls into his mouth like kirby and spiting them out.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Nov 22, 2008 4:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He's like a (skinny) hungry hungry hippo
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 22, 2008 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
i used to play that game with my bro on the regular. I think we broke it.
by bayareaballa on Nov 22, 2008 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was like the hungry hungry hippos master
by sam23 on Nov 22, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I USED TO...
tilt it my way so all the balls would go into my Hippos mouth! haha
by scottiepimppen on Nov 24, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll ignore the obvious inuendo....
I kept imagining him being pink, round, and sucking in balls into his mouth like kirby and spiting them out
That’s exactly it. He grabs rebounds and spits them out for opponents as turnovers. He’s got a 0.7 Assist/TO ratio. That’s pretty friking horrible for a “Point Guard”. Biedrins is better than that… make him PG!
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 24, 2008 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What I like best about AR,
is his confidence. As soon as he checks into the game he is running around acting like he belongs on the court. He has that look in his eyes. Hopefully Nellie lets the kid play about 10-20 mins this year.
The question that Im wondring is with Maggete starting at 4, and Nellies loves of small line ups(meaning AR at the 4) where does that leave Brandan Wright?
Ellis to the rim.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 22, 2008 5:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just like Morrow
Just like Morrow played his way into the starting lineup, I think Randolph will do the same. Its tough to ignore a 10 p, 8r, 4 b, in 13 minutes.
Nelly will give him more and more minutes as he sees him continue his tenacious performance.
-My (bold) statement – By the time Monta gets back, Randolph will be at least getting 25+ minutes a game, and in a permanent starting PF position.
Big thangs are comin!
by Gurthy on Nov 22, 2008 5:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
morrow can be
a ray allen in the NBA.
randolph can be more than that…
by MeTaLLiCs0naTaS on Nov 23, 2008 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
whatever you're smoking
quit now before you completly lose your sanity.
by the evil monkey on Nov 23, 2008 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Randolph reminds me of Stephen Jackson.
bad shot selection, both semi-awkward, w/ worse shooting, worse passing, more turnovers, overrated handles (based on times they dribble, he gets picked a lot more than Jackson) and he’s miraculously an even worse finisher than Jack.
only thing is he jumps higher than Jack – when he’s balanced to jump – which makes him a better shot blocker and rebounder.
by the evil monkey on Nov 23, 2008 5:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You, my friend,
are what we call “trippin.’” Randolph is a rookie, he shoots pretty nice, his handles are great (did you see him take it to the rim from the other side of the court in the last game?), and I’m guessing you are calling him a bad finisher because of that missed dunk at the end of the Chicago game.
Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement
by StSaints408 on Nov 23, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
because of his rookie mistakes
we should play him MORE. if he fixes those mistakes he will be a STAR. you can’t fix em if you aint out there playin.
by HoLdEmUP on Nov 24, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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