you can expect all of the same things when you play against Don Nelsons teams!

1. lack of execution
2. bad shots
3. poor defense
4. maybe 1 or 2 good inbounds plays
5. high scoring if players are hot enough (this doesn’t necessarily always win games)
6. outside shots, rarely scoring inside
7. fast breaks
8. too many turnovers
9. terrible rebounding
10. if you’re the other team, you can expect a win! because teams that play against a Don Nelson team play with a different type of swag that is usually not seen by the unlikely killer(s)! there is always a new warrior killer (Mikki Moore, Andray Blatche, Luther Head, Cuttino Mobley) the list goes on and on!

shouldnt consolidate all of the Fire Nellie, Fire Rowell, and Force Cohan to Sell petitions, into 1 super petition?

how many rookies do you think Nelly has hindered in his entire career? who knows if some of the players that were forced to play under him could have been true talents all along? Nelson needs to stop being so free with letting his players take bad shots all the time! all he does is run different types of isolation plays. nobody moves without the ball, everyone stands around watching and waiting for something to happen! we look like stupid sitting ducks thanks to Nelly! you mix that with no defense and that’s a formula for a loss pretty much most of the time! Maggs should never shoot a 3 pointer again! stick to slashing and driving! Nelly is the focal point of this post, i want him out plain and simple!!

Mullin over Nellie? why? the JRich signing? the Murphy signing? the Fisher signing? the Foyle signing? the Maggette signing? Add in two great trades and some up and down drafting and youve got yourself a very average GM.

he’s averaged 6.4 assists since he’s come over. he just hasn’t been able to shoot the rock at all

i think it’s kind of unfair at this point to place any blame on Crawford. he is brad spanking new! the only thing you can get mad at is his shooting percentage really. he’s been shelling out like 7 dimes per game. for a natural scorer that’s pretty good. you can also see that he wants to try to move the ball as much as he can but when people aren’t taking advantage, he feels like he’s forced to try to make something happen. i also don’t agree with you with not firing Don Nelson! he’s like a cancer to this team! i haven’t seen any real progress from Randolph/ Wright/ Bellinelli/ Williams/ and that’s because Nelson is stubborn and hates playing his rookies and teaching his rookies because he doesn’t have patience! he has weird ways of trying to motivate them, like starting them and then yanking them out the game after like 6 minutes and we never see them again. how is that good for any players morale? i think it’s better if we just cut him out completely and even though we’re like 15 games into the season, we trry to start fresh. in the long run, it’s better for our team because what we have on display now , is just not going to work with Nellie having all the control. he wants to win now and we’re simply not good enough to win now with just the veterans we have on this squad. he’s gotta go far far away from warrior land!

i am still going to rec your post, because you made a bunch of good points.

by the way man you spelled LOSING wrong. it’s all good though because i agree with you. i hate his rotations! i would have never thought in a million years to put Maggette at the 4. it worked against Aldridge but not against gooden and the bulls. yet he insists that small ball is the way to go for this team. i wanna see a front line of Biedrins and Turiaf with Maggs at the 3 jack at 2 crawford at 1. then i wanna see Wright rotated in to spell Biedrins while moving Turiaf to the 5. i wanna see Randolph have time at the 4 and the 3 spot. i want Buike to give Jackson some minutes on the bench while also getting some time from Morrow, Bellinelli and Crawford. Watson should be the main back up at point because of his consistent play and Marcus Williams can even take some minutes. and when Monta returns we can spread the minutes out even more. but nelson refuses to play a normal brand of basketball and insists that we play a more unorthodox style which in turn has hurt us bad!! he’s gotta go!!

maybe if Nelson would stress that to them and stop choosing to run isolation plays where everyone just stands around while one of the three players that you mentioned tries to create. he doesn’t even use the pick and roll no more. why can’t he set some plays up where we get people free using screens away from the ball? we have capable shooters! the answer to the question that i just posed is—-BECAUSE HE’S DON NELSON!! he’ll never change. he’s stuck in his stubborn ways and is probably the most predictable coach in the league! he’s to blame and no one else! the reason why Jack,Maggs,and Crawford are taking all these shots is because the entire league figured out how to defend us. they know we can’t hurt them on most nights from behind the arc. they know all we do is hope to win by getting the most fast break points. and they know that all we have in our arsenal are nothing but ISO PLAYS!! (thank you Nellie). Nellie doesn’t care. he’s realized that he won’t have a championship title as a coach although he will be the winningest coach in the league! he’s probably accepted it and doesn’t care how bad our team is because he can just experiment all he wants and he is in a position to make all of the power moves. he gets the last laugh!

he’s the opposite of that! he’s like a mad scientist always trying to mix and match to create whacky formulas on the court! he does not know how to get the best out of players! if anything he makes the players feel like shit! i don’t know how many rookies careers he’s killed in his entire coaching career but the number is a lot. how is starting a random ass player that hasn’t played in most of the games this season and then pulling him out for the rest of the game, getting the best out of that particular player? it kills their morale and some players are just not strong enough mentally to deal with it. he doesn’t teach, he demands players to either be something thay are not or produce at the snap of his fingers or he will bench that ass!! aside from all that..just look at Nellie,…he’s fat, he can’t even put on a decent outfit for the games, dude can’t even comb his hair, fool always looks like he’s drunk and tired. how is anyone supposed to take this guy seriously? he should just retire and stay retired! he lost all of his passion and that’s why the Warriors will never get to the next level!

(puke)

1st, he’s been to his conference championship before, 4x in fact. 82-83, 83-84, 85-86, 02-03

look their are plenty of good coaches or players that haven’t been there or won a title or whatnot. is Doc Rivers all of a sudden a good coach b/c he’s won a title? Riley was absolutely horrible w/ an aging Shaq and a 80% Wade… did he suddenly become a bad coach? are players like Barkley, Baylor, King not great? is KG only now considered great? before last season, he’d been out of the 1st round once.

Nellie is many things. gives up on big lineups too readily, inconsistent minutes, etc. come on, its the team.

Kobe, Pau, Odom

Pierce, Allen, Garnett

look, you can change the coach, but it doesn’t have any real effect. the Bulls got rid of Skiles – didn’t do crap, turns out everyone just overrated their players b/c almost all of them shot good for 1 year. but Del Negro looks good now that Rose is playing lights out. Doc Rivers didn’t suddenly become a great coach nor did Riley suddenly become a bad one.

in professional sports, where you’re dealing with grown men, if your best players don’t preach whatever it is that the coach is teaching, it doesn’t matter who the coach is. your best players hold everyone else accountable – that’s why guy’s like Duncan, Jordan, Magic, Bird, Tom Brady/Joe/Steve/Ray Lewis/Ronnie Lott (in football) are so important.

we lost last night b/c we played a vastly superior team who clamped down on defense in the 3rd quarter. it wasn’t just b/c we moved the ball that we had success – it’s that we were able to move the ball b/c of the nonchalant defense that the Cavs were playing at the time.

like w/ all coaches, Nellie’s not w/o faults – gives up on big line ups too early, inconsistent rotation, etc. hate to keep harping on it, but you’d think w/ the Doc Rivers/Pat Riley teams of last year, this point would be obvious. it’s the players always has been, always will be.

Vince is insane this year 48% FG, 40 from 3. 23, 5, 4.5, but Devin Harris is ripping it… 22.5 ppg 6.5 asst (3.5 to 1 assist/to) 45% FG.

i’m sure the Knicks will start losing now that they got rid of Crawford (who was shooting 45% from 3 for them) and Zach Randolph (20 & 12 for the Knicks).

Granger is killing it for the Pacers.. 24 ppg, 46, 37 from 3, plus TJ Ford is now on the team. and Marquis Daniels is having a career year so far, Rasho is underrated defending the low post and even Troy Murphy’s back to double doubles.

Bobcats, i don’t know… JRich/GWallace > Jack/Maggette??? they have played 10 games at home.

either way, these are all probably below .500 teams… but their 2 best offensive players are all > than our resident two, Jack & Maggette… another problem. these 2 are like Zach R. & Curry on the Knicks. they do the same things, don’t fit together. Crawford too.

we have 4 big problems. defending, rebounding, passing, and closing.

we have 1 guy who can defend his guy 1 on 1 75% of the time, Turiaf. everyone else needs help. Kelenna, an avg defender (can guard his own guy about 1/2 the time), is our 2nd best defender. Jack’s effort hasn’t been there all season… he’s too focused on offense. among starters, Crawford & Maggette might be the worst defenders at their positions in the entire league. at least top 5. we got bad defenders. Monta won’t help…

we have 1 guy who rebounds at a high rate for his position, Andris. everyone else is horrible. no atrocious may be a better word. Crawford & Jackson are two of the worst . Maggette has been poor. i’m guessing, but i think Randolph is the only guy with a decent rebounding rate. Monta won’t help… he rebounds okay for a 1, but that still moves Crawford and Jackson somewhere.

we can’t pass. we can’t even make an inbound pass. Monta may help… may.

closing, yet to be seen w/ Crawford, Monta.

I really liked it when it looked like Nellie was actually going to retire and Keith Smart would step in. There wouldn’t be the adjustment to a totally new coach because Keith has been with the team and everybody knows him. Keith could keep the components of Nellie’s system that actually work (few as they are) and work on revamping the rest. He always seemed like a level headed guy and I believe he’s well liked by both the players and the front office. But now that Nellie’s been given the extended contract, who knows when that will happen — if it ever does. I have a feeling Keith will be coaching another team way before Nellie ever leaves.

(and if it were someone who’s already been a head coach, my vote would go to Saunders)

i’d rather see Moncrief or Smart than Avery though. he pretty much did a number on Dirk by calling him out so much. and that iso offense he was running that pissed off Kidd so much isn’t exactly what i had in mind.

the kick in the crotch nellie gave avery in 2007? if that series wasn’t enough proof of who the better coach is, i can’t help you.

but i’m guessing his adjusted , the one that accounts for 3’s, is probably about the same. actually, i just looked via ESPN, it’s higher. he’s shot about 46 if you accounted for the extra points you get on 3’s. he’s been at 48 & 50 w/ the Warriors, down to 45 this season, but if his 3 pt shooting normalizes to about 33%, i’m sure it’ll be around there.

Corey’s adj FG% has been about 45 to 50, he’s around 43 right now, but if his 20% 3 pt shot normalizes to his career 32%… he’ll probably be shooting about what he is.

i’d say Crawford is coincidence. anyone w/ league pass will tell you that he’s taking the same shots he took in NY, just less of them. besides he was bound to start missing after shooting an astronomical 45% in his 1st 10 or so games.

i refuse to watch Laker games b/c i hate them, yet they don’t lose a lot. but my brother watches them a lot and he says Turiaf got way more dunks down there.

what, how does that make sense at all? Crawford and Maggette arent exactly high % shooters in case you failed to notice them before they came here.

Just a bunch of bandwagon idiots.

first of all, i aint no bandwagoner and i’ve been through all the drama when it comes to the warriors! with a lineup of Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington, Biedrins, Ellis, Barnes, Pietrus and the rest of the squad, Nelson just couldn’t make it work. He gave up on them, if you remember? i know we had Dunleavy and Murphy for the 1st half of the season but even after a long stretch of games with our new core of players, Nelson still couldn’t get it to work. He gave up and i don’t wanna hear you say it was to try to motivate them. he left them for dead and gave up! there is now way that he could have predicted that they would go on that winning stretch at the end of the season and sneak into the playoffs!! he was as amazed as i was that they made it! why should he get credit for bringing us to that point? his rotations suck. he rides his veterans til the wheels fall off. he has nothing but isolation plays and if they work the credit should go to the player who made the play happen. i don’t know who i want the coach to be but right now, for our team, it is not Nelson! and shut up before you get slapped! you too since runTMC 760. you’re an idiot for real!

look at the knicks roster, look at our roster. similar? no star player. just a bunch of scrappy guys.
i actually think we have more talent on this team. so what is the difference? coaching. its that simple.
sure nelson was a good coach. even a GREAT coach. BUT, he really has no motivation to be coaching anymore. he’s gotten his money for the next 3 years. i really don’t think he’s hungry for a championship and i don’t care what you say. if he’s not gonna get us to the playoffs he is definitely not the guy to be developing our young players.

you have a very young team and on the road at the end of a very tiring 5 games in 7 days trip.
Wow after all that and we lost against a team with a better record on their court. Why are people acting like this is nellie’s fault. No coach could do much better with the current situation.

yea its sad, but also true.

my biggest beef with Nellie’s rotation is that he doesn’t play Turiaf as much as possible. Ronny should be fouling out every game before he gets taken out.

but whatever we can always point to the 5th game in 7 nights excuse…

    I’d like to give him another try. He seemed pretty good at Sacto, speaking of sacto, what about adleman?

i get what ur saying. rowell has screwed up this team. but why say mullin is second to blame? mullin wanted to give baron the extension and i really like the moves mullin made to replace people like barnes and pietrus and harrington. imagine this team with baron at the point instead of maggette. don’t you think it’s a way deeper and stronger team than last year? i really don’t see mullin having anything to do with this. as for nelson, sure he can run a great offense, but he is too unconventional. you can’t always put the small lineup out there, and u gotta play defense, or your gonna get outrebounded and no matter how much you score, the other team is gonna put up for points. and with a young, developing team that’s not gonna make the playoffs, he is not the right coach to be introducing them to the next level.