How do the W's improve the salary cap situation?
So, I have been torn between writing another post to throw on the heap of bitching, moaning, condemning posts or writing some forward looking post, like so many members suggest as they complain about the people who...complain.
Luckily, I didn't have to decide (it takes me half an hour to pick which 6 pack I want at BevMo so deciding is not a strength of mine). I found a great way to combine both urges that I think we all have as W's fans, to bitch and to look ahead- because, what the hell else do we usually have?
(WARNING: Long, thought out post ahead. Sorry, I guess?)

Anyways, here it goes: Rowell is an egomaniacal deusche who has destroyed the team's credibility and functionality(in terms of management). Yes, I trust Kawakami too, much- I'll save you the typing. Rowell was assistant AD at Cal Poly when Cohan met him and took him under his wing- fellow Mustangs, you know that is nothing that qualifies you to run an NBA franchise. He is wholly unqualified to make the decisions he is making and it is completely destroying the salary cap flexibility the W's had gained under Mullin (well, lost and gained back under Mullin, but still).
BUT...
Let's look forward as so many people rightly suggest and try to figure out ways to shed some salary in hopes of being able to improve this clusterfuck of a roster both by subtraction and addition.
Step 1) Identify the problem: (have a bucket to puke in handy)http://hoopshype.com/salaries/golden_state.htm
We have one expiring contract that can be traded and it's Williams' whopping $1.2 million.
Contracts that would easily qualify as exorbitant (or just stupid) Jackson
Maggette
Crawford (if he doesn't opt out, which he won't)
Step 2) Identify the options for each
Jackson: a 31 year old who is owed $42 M over this and the next 4 seasons. As Saint Tim of merc.com has pointed out, giving Jax a completely unnecessary and premature BY 2 YEARS extension, Rowell basically ruined any trade value Jax had. Seems like we could only include him (and his deal) if the other team was getting someone else along with him that they covet highly, most likely one of the young guys or our lottery pick next year.
Maggette: Obviously, he had some interest from other teams this summer, but not at $10 M per and not for 5 years. If he had (or currently was) giving teams who previously balked at the price a reason to reconsider, he would be an easy asset to move. Since it's fair to say that he hasn't been playing like a $10M player, he would likely have to be moved with another player/ pick of value. If he steps up his game in the next few months, you could kind of imagine a team who was both in the hunt and has a "luxury tax friendly" owner taking him on as a way to load up on scoring before the playoffs.
Check out my post this summer about the Maggette signing. Skip to the bottom where I compare his and BD's stats. It could make you cry, sorry if it does. http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2008/7/8/567614/faith-lost I admittedly rip Mullin, but this was way before anyone knew what really happened with BD. I, foolishly, thought the GM was making basketball decisions- silly me.
Crawford: Since his contract ends two years sooner that Mags or Jax, he is obviously more attractive in a trade. If someone has another guard to pair with him who actually plays D, allowing Crawford to just be a scorer/ distributor, you could see someone giving us something in return.
As I see it, we have three decent but completely non-essential and overpaid players. Did I mention they're all wing players?
How do we get rid of some/ all of them? What are some realistic targets, both in terms of destination and in terms of what we could realistically get back, realistically?
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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maggette and jack before its too late and receive less for them. i am willing to receive less and give up them before its too late.
by gorillas on
Dec 1, 2008 6:28 PM PST
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All your suggestion needs is a time machine to work
so you can go back in time and stuff Rowell in a closet from June through October of 2008.
Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.
by bloodsweatndonuts on
Dec 1, 2008 7:02 PM PST
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do we want to finally dismantle our 2007 team ?
1st JRich, 2nd Baron, and now Jax because of $$$, didn’t give that team a chance to gel and add the PF they need. Now we are completely over the cap and still no PF or PG. We now have a team that can start 4 average shooting guards and choose between Monta, Crawford, Buke, Maggette, Morrow, CJ , Bellinelli and Jackson to play along with Biedrins. Who in the world is making these horrible decisions?
by shootda3 on
Dec 1, 2008 7:22 PM PST
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Who in the world is the question I’ve been asking. It’s not clear who is in charge. Rowell is making decisions that don’t make basketball sense and seemingly standing in the way of basketball decisions. Mullin is not getting players that Nellie seems to want to use and may or may not be angling to squeeze Mullin out of his job. Three people not quite in charge is the problem. Unfortunately, they seem just competent enough to hand out contracts. At least when ATL had no one in charge a few years ago, they were prevented from doing anything (which prevented them from doing anything stupid in the process).
by jae on
Dec 1, 2008 7:30 PM PST
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Trade
Jack to ATL for Zaza and Acie Law.
Crawford to Cleveland for Hickson and Snow. Boom! you got15 mill that expires within 2 years.
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by StSaints408 on
Dec 1, 2008 8:39 PM PST
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of course you might need to throw in some picks or something.
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by StSaints408 on
Dec 1, 2008 8:39 PM PST
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now we need the most difficult two qualities in all of sport
the Jackson extension and Harrington trade have left us in cap bind to be sure – now we have to be patient and hope for some luck that another franchise is either going to get into a similar jam as NY and GSW with disgruntled player or reach for a veteran that might put them over the top for a playoff run – and be ready to strike
Mullin did that with Baron, we just have to hope lightning strikes twice
by hardcore on
Dec 1, 2008 9:17 PM PST
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What we need to do...
Keep Crawford, his contract isn’t nowhere near as bad as Maggs and Jax.
Clearly the one who needs to be moved is Maggs. Question is, who’s going to take him, and who can we package with him?
I would say these players are indispensable:
Jax (assuming we’re trading Maggette)
B. Wright
Biedrins
Azubuike (considering his contract as opposed to Maggette…)
Crawford
Randolph
Turiaf
What I’m getting at here is not gambling on the fact that Monta will come back as Monta, and moving Monta, Maggs and other dead wood for an available superstar if one comes up. Otherwise, maybe the Thunder or similar might want Maggs for next to nothing – maybe this time we might use the Trade Exception if one’s created ;)
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by warriordownunder on
Dec 1, 2008 9:43 PM PST
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On our roster presently, the following players are indispensable:
by jae on
Dec 2, 2008 10:34 AM PST
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brilliant
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on
Dec 2, 2008 6:20 PM PST
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The only player to trade Ellis for
is Lebron, Rose, Bosh, or Durant.
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by StSaints408 on
Dec 1, 2008 10:58 PM PST
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PERSONNEL IS NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM
When Jackson does not force his offense and plays good D, he is worth this money (look at his game tonight). Move Maggs to the bench and he will be productive but I agree that his contract will weigh us down. Crawford will be a productive player on the W’s and generally worth the money.
by terryteagle on
Dec 1, 2008 11:40 PM PST
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We don't need any non-big-man who doesn't assist...
so I’m all in favor of dumping Maggs contract, if possible. That signing reeked of desperation when it happened and is the biggest mistake the Warriors have made this year. I think one can argue either side of the Baron, Pietrus and Barnes deals. Maggette was clearly a mistake. How can we move him for cap space?
I agree that Crawford and Jackson’s contracts are fair though I doubt I’d resign Crawford if he threatened the Baron move next year. (And we’ll have to get over whether Jack should have been extended now, or not. Let’s deal with the present.)
IMO, it won’t be possible to get anyone better than Wright or Randolph or Turiaf or Kurz or Hendricks at PF, so I can forget about getting anything back other than cap space for Maggs.
I’m fine building around who we have, even if it means a few more losses this season.
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
by fotd on
Dec 2, 2008 1:25 PM PST
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