really? cj needs more selective with his shots? cj is THE MOST SELECTIVE shooter on the team EASILY.

clearly your posts should be taken with a grain of salt SINCE YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT.

Do you watch all the games or only the nationaly televised games? Cause only watching a couple of games doesnt really make you an “outsider” just uniformed about the team….

In Response: I am from San Diego, so that’s why I say I am an outsider, not in the Bay Area. I do have NBA League Pass though, so I watch most of the games not on ESPN on the internet.

About Biedrins, what I said still stands. His stats are misleading because of the system he is in. Pretty much his job on offense is to stay around the basket and try to get rebounds and garbage points. I am fine with that, but that causes his stats to be misleading. I think there are many other centers in the NBA who if you plugged them into the Warriors system would have similar stats and probably a better post-up game then he does. Not saying he is bad, just average.

About CJ: I am fine with with guys taking the open shot……if they can make them. He does seem to be the most consistent shooter. Good players in this league will consistently knock down the open shot, I haven’t seen him be that consistent yet. He needs to shoot better or not shoot so much, one or the other. Because I hate it when he rushes the ball down court before anyone else is in position for the rebound, pulls up and misses and the other team has the equivilant of a turnover. Don’t get me wrong, I like him and I think he can still develop his shot, but playing more team ball would be better for the Warriors right now, instead of this one on one stuff.

For example Belinelli, in limited action he has been playing great and finding the open man with the pass, something I have not seen CJ so very much.

If you have a disagreement I am glad to read it, but please keep it related to the points at hand. I don’t know how things are done in San Francisco or Oakland, but in San Diego when you argue about something, you stick to the point, not try to make personal assertions you know nothing about like saying I don’t watch any games. I do watch the games and that’s the only thing I base my opinions on. If there is a game that you can recall that you think I should review, I would be glad to do that as NBA League pass has all the past games archieved. And don’t say “all of them”, that’s a cop out. I already know non-objective fans mentality well enough to anticipate that response.

Another Response: Correction: I meant to write that “CJ Watson DOESN’T seem to be a very consistent shooter.” I think that was exemplified last night. He does try to go 1 on 1 a lot. Unlike Magette, he doesn’t really go for the free throw opportunity (which as a general fan of basketball I hate that style of play) but he does get some good looks. That is not the problem. He is not consistent in making them is the problem. And that 1 on 1 stuff does not help the team game unless the guy can consistently hit the shot. I think you saw that exemplified last night. Then you see guys like Billups or Ray Allen get those same open shots that CJ gets and they knock them down time and time again.

Hey, I don’t expect CJ to be Billups or Ray Allen, those guys are great players, but I’m saying that if he can’t knock down shots like that then he shouldn’t be taking as many. It comes down to mental toughness, those guys get the open shot and are automatic. They are deadly, ice-water in the veins type guys. Shooting good in shoot-arounds is one thing but transferring that into the game is what really counts. CJ has shown he can get himself a good look, but if he doesn’t make the shot it is meaningless. I hope he can start hitting that shot more consistently, but until he does Nelly should not play him so much or keep stressing the passing game.

Because the team once again got away from the passing game last night vs the Nuggets. They went into the 1 on 1 game again with CJ and SJax and neither were hitting consistently. You want to question me about SJax being in a funk? Come on, this guy is not on his game right now. I’m just keeping it real, I understand some of you get sensitive about hearing criticism of some of the players and act like they are your family members or something, but he hasn’t been right for a while. Maybe he is playing through the finger injury and that is hurting his game. If so, he should be deactivated until he is 100% because he is not doing anybody any good playing the way he is now taking bad shots many times, shooting poorly even with open shots, passing poorly and getting technicals.

I know Wright has been sick, but when he comes back I wouldn’t mind SJax taking some time off to get healthy or fix whatever problem he’s having because they can’t win with him playing like he is. Wright and Randolph can share those leftover minutes until he gets back.

I watch the games on NBA league pass and it is very interesting to hear the announcers from around the league talk about the Warriors. (NBA League Pass uses the announcers for the home team.) They come up with some interesting stats, despite the Warriors being a team that stresses the 3-point shot, they are the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA right now shooting I think they said 30 – 31% from there. Not good. How do you get a team and a system that is going to stress shooting 3’s and then not have anyone who can shoot them? That doesn’t make sense. I do think they have some guys that have shown they could be good 3-point shooters or at least adequate, but they need to pass the ball more and do screens or other plays to get these guys open looks. Morrow of course is number 1 on the list, if he is contested like last night, he is not going to shoot well. Bellinelli is another one who they need to work to get his 3 -pt looks. Randolph is ok, I am fine with him shooting from there. SJax used to be ok from 3-pt range, but not lately, they need to get him right first.

But very very happy I was last night (I don’t know why I’m typing like Yoda all of the sudden) with Kurz play. Someone else posted about Biedrins and said he needs another big body in the game to help him and I agree that would be good. Is Kurz the guy? I’m not going to say that after 1 game, but he did look pretty good last night. I didn’t know he could shoot the 3-pointer like that. He got open had great form and knocked a few nice ones down. I’m not hating that. With the teams play of late, I wouldn’t mind them trying a Kurz experiment, they really have nothing to lose. Play Biedrins and Kurz together and rotate Turiaf in for one of them for breathers.

Oh and about Biedrins, I don’t know why I take so much heat for saying he is average. Maybe people think I mean he is average for all centers in the NBA. I don’t mean that, I mean he is average for starting centers. So for 30 starting centers in the NBA he would be around 15th best. That’s not exactly a slam on him. There are a lot of good centers in the NBA and some are obvioulsy better then he is. He does some things well like rebound pretty good and good at tip ins. That is fine with me and important to the team. I think we can all agree his post up game is weak. But that’s ok because the Warriors don’t really run too many plays through the post-up like some teams so he fits the system well. But just because he fits the system I think its a stretch to say he is one of the best centers in the NBA because he is a niche guy right now. Like a Rodman or a Wallace. Not dissing them either, but when you can focus on only one aspect of your game like rebounding and put-backs and not have to worry about posting up and being out of position for offensive rebounds, you are going to do better at offensive boards and garbage points. That and the Warriors taking more shots then most teams both boost those stats, so I still say they are skewed.

Because some people on here want to say “Oh Biedrins is great” or “This guys is great”, “That guy is great” I want to say, “well if these guys are so great, why is the team being crushed by good teams?” Because these guys are not great and a lot of the fans who are saying those things are being homers and not being objective. I am being objective here, Biedrins is average. But that’s not really a slam, as I think Randolph is an average point guard and other then those 2 guys, I think every other person on the team is below average for thier position.(Compared to starters not overall) (Except of course Monta who is in my mind the only above average player in the team). SJax is normally average or above average, but he is playing below average right now. Don’t hate, I’m an outsider and is why I can see the forest for the trees unlike some of the fans who are too deep in the forest to recognize some of these things.

Its ok, I understand the team is young and these guys probably will get better and develop. I think most of the guys have the potential to be average or above average starters in the NBA. But with currently 2 average players and the rest below average you aren’t going to win many games.

I put that on Nelly though because he’s not even utilizing the guys strengths like he should like helping 3-pt shooters get more shots or limiting the playing time of guys that are shooting too much and playing too much 1 on 1 ball. I can’t find much reason to his substitutions at times, he needs to take guys out who are shooting cold or not playing defense or ball-hogging.

With the rash of firings of head coaches, makes me wonder if Nelly’s job is safe. He hasn’t exactly been inspiring the team to some great play or utilizing his players strengths. I don’t know if they have any assistant coaches who could step in, but if they had one who could step in and impliment the same system (except with better discipline, accountability, reward and punishment for good or bad play in the form of more or less minutes) then I might approve a switch like that. Maybe Nelly is getting too old to relate to the young players. I don’t know, but something is not right there, I don’t like his attitude and body language, its written all over his face that he has thrown in the towel on the season. Not good Nelly. Not happy whatsoever with that. The players and the fans deserve better then that.

Correction again: Meant to say “Am fine with Crawford getting 3’s, not Randolph” and “Crawford is an average point guard in the league, not Randolph”.

i still think that neither you, or the other guy who claims to watch the games KNOWS who CJ watson is. the man never goes 1 on 1. he takes wide open shots, and makes almost all of them.

GSoMers: Lighten up on this guy. Sure I disagree with most of what he’s saying as well, but let’s not be rude and take personal shots.

CJ Watson: Did a little research, and, Watson is shooting a bit better from the field than Billups is this year. So that argument is flawed. I agree that the entire team needs to move the ball better, but I will not complain with him putting up shots.

Biedrins: I think something you need to understand is the concept of a valuable player. Goose is our MVP: our most VALUABLE player, not necessarily our most talented player. We would be up a creek without a paddle with him. I know you say he’s only average, but let’s compare him to the other West Centers….Andrew Bynum? Toss up. Very similar numbers. Bynum blocks more shots, gets less rebounds, better post up moves, more bone-headed plays. Greg Oden? Sure Oden may be a stud, but right now he’s no better than Biedrins. Tyson Chandler? Not anymore. Matt Bonner? ummmmm. Yao Ming? Yes, Yao is better. Mehmet Okur? Can shoot 3s. what else? Chris Kaman? Not these days. Chris Wilcox? haha. Brad Miller? Not anymore. Al Jefferson? Probably better, but not having a great season. better offensive, not a great defender, poor rebounder for his size. Shaq? Commands more respect offensively, but I wouldn’t say he’s better. Marc Gasol? nooooo. Erick Dampier? ha. Nene? Very similar.

Also on Beans – To say he only gets rebounds because we fire up shots is erroneous, because he plays so few minutes. Last year he led the entire league in rebounds per 48 minutes. He gets more rebounds than other people on essentially the same amount of possessions because he loses minutes.

Nellie – You can say he’s made some mistakes, but let’s face it: If we make the playoffs that’s great, but this needed to be a rebuilding year. He’s focusing on next year, and in the meantime, if we win, sweet.

Correction: I meant to say “up a creek without a paddle without him,” not “with him.”

Another Response:

Good point about Billups, I just had him fresh in my mind because of the game against us, he may not be a great shooter either like Ray Allen. My point still stands that CJ doesn’t hit enough shots. He does do a good job of getting solid looks, but he needs to knock down those shots more consistently or not shoot so much. His game is lacking on finding the open man, instead of shooting, more passes, more team ball will result in better flow of the game, better and easier shot attempts and more points scored, you can take that to the bank.

Don’t get me wrong, I like CJ and think he can develop into a good or very good layer, but right now he is a good backup.

That’s why I like Belinelli, he is great at court awareness and being able to find the open man with the pass. That’s a switch from the playground 1 on 1 style of offense we have all witnessed and have seen doesn’t work. That’s the style of play teams with no coach, no offensive scheme and no set plays uses. That’s why you would call that a playground style of offense. If they want to do that then I can be the coach.

I’m not saying CJ is the worst offender, I think Magette is even worse with the 1 on 1 style then he is. I am fine if someone goes 1 and 1 and can dominate, if it was Jordan or Kobe, Labron, or any player that happens to be on fire at the moment, I am fine with them going 1 on 1 and constantly shooting. I don’t think we have any dominant scorers like that.

Mabye Morrow and Belinelli can get hot like that and then I wouldn’t mind them jacking up 3 after 3. SJax used to go on some hot streaks, but lately I think he is just playing injured and that has caused him to go cold. Baron could take over in short spurts last year, unfortunately we don’t have him anymore.

Thank you to the last poster for your comments about Biedrins and I have to respectfully disagree. With all due respect, I think you are exemplifying some homerism in your analysis. Take fans or objective people who know basketball from around the league and I don’t think you will find a comparison analysis like yours that is so rosey.

And about Biedrins being the MVP of the team. Maybe. And if so, its by default as nobody on the team has really shined consistenly this year. And to say they would be up the creek without a paddle without him. Yes, so would any team that has only one starter caliber center on their team, take that center off and they will also be hurting, that just points to a lack of depth at the position.

I still don’t understand the fans that dispute every one of my criticisms. If all of my criticisms are wrong, then why is the team doing so bad? That doesn’t make sense. There has to be a reason the team has a bad record and quite frankly has been severely overmatched in some of the games. There are reasons for that.

I have pointed to what I think are obvious ones. I’m not saying Biedrins is the problem, just that he is not the solution some people say he is. They need to find another solution, he is a niche player, and does some good things that are necessary for a team to succeed.

What is the problem? Players going 1 on 1 too much, ball hogging, taking bad shot attempts, inconsistent shooting on those attempts, inconsistent shooting even on good shot attempts, not passing enough or running a team style of offense. On defense, not getting in front of their man, not moving feet, lack of effort or focus. Coaching: Not utilizing the guys specific talents on the offense, not penalizing guys who ball hog or go too much 1 on 1, not coaching them up to play more team offense and not penalizing guys who don’t give a good effort on defense.

I think those are fairly obvious. If you don’t think those are valid points, you probably think the team is 20 – 5 right now. They are not, there are reasons for the bad record. The good news is that these problems should be somewhat fixable or at least able to be improved upon, I just don’t see Nelly taking enough steps to do that.