trade rumors
by montamazing on Dec 14, 2008 9:08 PM PST
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there are rumors going around that maggette may be traded. Ideally we would want to get a solid pf in return for mags, somone like millsap or brandon bass. But this is extremely unlikely. Now there have been rumors that a trade of Josh Howard for Maggs may go down. The mavs are looking to get rid of Howard and Mags isn't fitting in with the warriors offense.
Like I said i would much prefer to get a solid pf in return for Mags but i think Josh Howard would actually be a good pickup. hes an efficient scorer, hes a terrific rebounder for his position which is SF and he can run. He would fit in nicely at SG or SF and and we could then move either Jackson or Crawford to 6th man. this is when Ellis is back.
But this doesn't address the overload of wingmen and guards. cj watson, morrow or bellinelli are all expendable. We should ship one or two of these guys (not bellinelli and morrow together) out for a young pf like sean williams, or sean may or some player like that who can come in and provide us with solid rebounding.
we've seen the front office is willing to make trades and i think these are things we need to do. maggette needs to go and we need to ship our expandables elsewhere for a pf
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=10936
what do you think of these ideas.
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I’d prefer Josh Howard over Maggs any day. Howard is more fit for our style of play and he has previously played under Don Nelson, so Nellie shouldn’t have a hard time implementing him into our rotation. He is also a much better all around player and can actually pass, something that Maggette knows nothing about.
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I LOVE JOSH HOWARD!!! HE IS SOOO MUCH BETTER THAN MAGGETTE!!! PLEASE TRADE FOR HIMMMMMMM!!!!!!!
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 14, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
no josh howard…. WE DONT NEED ANOTHER SG. If the mavs r set on it though weshould be able to find a 3rd team…. as howard is a more attractive peice than mags just cause of his contract.
i;d be happy taking joe smith and desmond mason from OKC, or any contracts that r off at end of season cause then we’d have money to play and could most likely take bass or millsap from dallas/utah
by Warriors510 on Dec 15, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
you forgot the key reason howard rules!!!
he doesn’t celebrate the national anthem because he’s black! i don’t know about you, but since that quote leaked howard became my favorite non-warrior. i mean, i may not be black, but i DO love to smoke pot and hate on the national anthem. it’s the american way!
josh Howard 4 President! We need a REAL black man in the white house!
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 15, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
I would be happy shedding his contract for nearly any shorter contract and letting the younger players play. Don’t even care about getting a PF, we need players who can create shots for others, keep the ball moving, have a reasonable conscious about when to shoot, not fall in love with off balance/fall away shots, and plays SOME degree of defense.
by Warrior fan since 1985 on Dec 14, 2008 9:26 PM PST reply actions
Maggs for Baron.
we should just trade them back. nobody is getting along and they are much better off their old teams.
PLEASE!!!
I knew Santa would come through on my prayers for a trade!
by Mr. Monday Night on Dec 14, 2008 9:58 PM PST reply actions
i think
maggette is a good player and is sort of a scapegoat right now. if he ends up being traded, josh howard would be cool. anyone know what his contract numbers are? i would also take stackhouse, i heard he is rumored to be traded. i guess it really doesnt matter as long as its an expiring contract, because the young guys are going to be playing anyway.
Contract numbers
2/$20.5M including this season, plus an $11.8 team option for 2010/11.
Slightly better all-around player, much better contract. A no-brainer trade, if it presents itself. I’m dubious.
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by Sleepy Freud on Dec 14, 2008 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
contract
He has a year left after this year with about 9.5 million a year
Why would Dallas do that...
Other than howard being stupid… (saying the wrong things at all the wrong times). It seems like there needs to be a catch. Like we need to dump in another player for a bad contract or something. Maggs is not that good, howard is much better (not an all-star, but slightly better).
I think Howard is just as big of a black hole as maggs, but his defense is slightly better, and he has better range. I don’t think we are getting a way better player but that contract has got to go, one way or another.
Maggs is a much bigger black hole than Howard. At least Howard TRIES to play team basketball. Maggette doesn’t even know the definition of playing as a team.
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by JustSomeName on Dec 14, 2008 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
That and Howard knows what it takes to win ball games. Maggette is just too used to losing after being on the Clippers for so long.
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by JustSomeName on Dec 14, 2008 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with the winning part...
But part of Dallas’s biggest complaint about Howard is his recently lackluster play on d and his bad shot selection and having absolutely no assists… 1.6 a game to be exact. So Really I am not sure Howard is what we need. He is only 6’5 anyway. I would rather have someone a little taller or bigger than that. I know I can’t be picky, but I would only do this to get rid of Maggs contract… thats all.
by shooter1525 on Dec 14, 2008 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
They used to call lots of iso plays for Howard (before Kidd I guess)
but Howard is fundamentally a “knife fighter” and I think Dallas needs that next to porcelain Kidd and Dirk who’s not exactly known as the hardest mfer around.
I don't actually know about Kidd's injury history
except he is very old, and I assume he has creaky joints and I would rather not have him diving all over the place. And his defense has lost a step.
Some say Howard’s ankle injury is similar to Harrington’s back “injury.” From reading a couple Mavs blogs it seems most Dallas fans would be more than willing to dump Howard for a slight downgrade. Maggette is exactly that. I doubt it happens and I think Howard is a doofus but I’d jump at the opportunity.
It makes sense
because Howard is a Nellie type of player and Maggette is a Carlisle halfcourt player. Both players would play better in new systems anyway. Plus both guys are injured, so it’s not like they’ll be getting an injured player and we will be getting a healthier player. Oh and for the guy who wanted Howards numbers this year: through 9 games PPG 20.3 RPG 8.20 APG 1.6 EFF + 18.44 BPG 0.7 SPG 0.8 FG% 0.461 3P% 0.250 FT% 0.685. His stats are definitley better than Maggs right now besides the FT, but Howard will improve that since he’s a career 77 FT shooter.
Lineup when Monta comes back:
PG:Ellis
SG:Jackson
SF:Howard
PF:Wright/Randolph
C:Biedrins
6th:Crawford
Looks a lot better than before, but the Warriors might have to give up someone else as well, hopefully a wing player like Belinelli.
He's not 6-5
I know thats been said but it’s not true, he’s 6-7. It says on his profile and I saw him in a picture next to Devin Harris who is 6-3 and he is more than 2 inches taller than him. Besides Maggette is 6-6.
Mags
is worth so much more than Sean Williams.
Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement
lol
you guys know mags has no trade value right now… hes injured and out indefinitely with torn ham string muscle…
he actually does have trade value, seeing as teams are interested. you dont know what you're talking about
by montamazing on Dec 14, 2008 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
ha
you usually dont see rumors about player that nobody is interested in…we’ll see where it goes, if he gets traded clearly there is interest
Really? So youve never seen a Eddy Curry, Jamal Tinsley, or Stephon Marbury rumor? The opposite is more true than your statement. Some may be interested in Maggette…..but not his contract. I’d be shocked if we could get anything more than a slightly less terrible contract and inferior player in return.
corey maggette isn't in the same category as those guys.
those are the most overpaid players in the league, maggette is only slightly overpaid. and is still a very good player that would be great for any half court team.
it doesnt change the complete falsness of your statement. Gerald Wallace is a very good player too, but his bad contract has kept intererest in him from other teams, including ours, extremely low. Youre drastically overrating the interest in Maggette and severely misjudging just how bad that contract is. Just as with Harrington, there may be a team or two with whom Mullin can get a deal done, but its not as thought theres a line of suitors for Maggs and his terrible contract.
never said there were many teams interested
i simply said that i think there is interest, in response to someone who said he had absolutely no trade value. that is atleast just as baseless a statement as mine, only i have some evidence to support my claim.
no you dont
what evidence? he has more evidence than you. If hoopsworld, hoopshype and espn rumors are what you consider evidence then check today’s hoopsworld article detailing how the Warriors have been seeking to find a Maggette deal for weeks but his contract has been impossible to move.
If they were so interested with that contract, he wouldnt be here. Seriously think about it. Nobody offered anything more than the midlevel for him, yet he’s now making double that amount. Again show me some of your “evidence” that there is interest in Maggette. If there was interest we wouldnt be discussing this because he wouldve been dealt on Monday. Some semi-contender may get desperate closer to the deadline, but I wouldnt hold my breath. For now there is no interest and I dont blame the other 29 teams.
Maggs was 1st eligible to be traded yesterday, IIRC, since there’s a moratorium on trading signed free agents from other teams. None of the teams that showed interest had the ability to offer the contract in the off-season and he’s been eligible to be traded for one day. He’s injured, and unlike the Harrington injury, I suspect Maggs is really hurt. Why would someone make a trade at this point?
I don’t dispute that the interest in Maggs is probably low, that it’s unlikely that teams are beating down our door to get him into their uniform, but that he hasn’t been traded yet does not imply that there’s no interest.
Howard
is out indefinitley alos so you can say the same thing for him. He has been out with an ankle injury for a while.
if we make this trade
for j. howard, i can see jack improving much more. right now, jack feels like he can do whatever he want out there and makes careless errors just cause he can get away with it. if we get howard (who nelson happens to ALSO love) i can see jackson becoming more motivated and attentive, knowing that he could be replaced at any point of the game etc.
The trade we should make (but never will)
Maggette, Jackson, Marcus Williams for Josh Howard and Jerry Stackhouse
-First off we need to clear a roster spot in the next few days when Monta comes off suspension so trading Williams clears a guaranteed contract. With Maggette and Jackson gone we could actually rebuild with youth. Stackhouse’s contract comes off the books at the end of the year and he’s rumored to want to pursue a coaching gig under Nellie anyway. The rest of the year would basically just give him a head start on that, maybe give him a few minutes a game, but I doubt he’d complain too much about playing time here. Howard is a better player than Jackson or Maggette and even if he continues to be a dimwit he comes off the books in two years, so combined with Stack we’d have a ton of cap flexibility to work around Monta, Randolph, Wright, and Biedrins. We’d be dumping two awful contracts for two much better ones while at the same time clearing a little more playing time for the young guys. I envision the rotation for the rest of the year looking something like this:
PG-Monta/Watson/Belinelli
SG-Crawford/Buike/Morrow/Stack
SF-Howard/Buike/Stack/Morrow/Randolph
PF-Wright/Randolph
C-Biedrins/Turiaf
Its still wing heavy, but it gives Randolph and Wright a lot more minutes than theyre getting now. Plus it adds two guys rumored to have been Nellie favorites.
-For Dallas they get good return for a couple guys who have become cancers there. I gotta believe theyd love to get their hands on Jack after seeing what he can do for a team in the playoffs a couple years ago. They could use a guy like that and Jack would be better off there anyway. Maggette would give them the kind of 6th man Stackhouse was a couple years ago. They take on awful contracts, but isnt that why Mark Cuban exists? Besides this team has to win now and this trade gives them a better shot to do so. Their potential rotation:
PG-Kidd/JJ Barea
SG-Terry/Maggette/Green
SF-Jackson/Maggette/George
PF-Dirk/Bass
C-Damp/Diop
Theyd have a better shot in the playoffs with that rotation than the one they have now.
-alas, like all trade ideas that get posted on GSoM it will never happen for several reasons. Chief among them is the Warriors organization crazy man-love for Jackson. I like the guy ok, but in a year or two he’ll have one of the worst contracts in the NBA.
+1
sadly, i think the mavericks are smart enough to not do that trade though. they would be stuck in the same situation were in right now: jack and maggs for 5 more years.
When Maggette missed those consecutive shots in a span of a humming bird’s flap,
Crawford simply looked at the bench and said, "Are you serious?"
but
they are already screwed with Kidd. They pretty much HAVE to go for it now. If theres any chance in hell theyd do Howard for Maggette I would think theyd jump at this one.
haha
i can see howard for maggette alone, but taking in the huge contracts of jackson AND maggette would be tough. just cause they get maggs and jack still doesnt mean they can be a “champion-caliber” team. youve got boston, LA, cleveland, and more teams who are really really good this season. risking the trade with jack and maggs wouldnt be worth it if i were on dallas’ end. however if it did happen i would be ecstatic…
When Maggette missed those consecutive shots in a span of a humming bird’s flap,
Crawford simply looked at the bench and said, "Are you serious?"
yea I know they wouldnt exactly be favorites but if Dallas does think they can make a move to help them make a run at the championship now, I dont think they could do much better than this. If it did happen it would be almost as good as the day the DunMurphy trade went down. Maybe on par with the Baron trade.
dallas could be desperate
look at them getting jkidd. we’ll see if cuban is a dumbo or not.
I like it
Howard is a beast. His contract is just icing on the cake. The Mavs would be stupid as hell to do it tho.
we could then move either Jackson or Crawford to 6th man
Yea that’s not happening we’d just go small like always.
This’d obviously be great for us, as would a Maggette-for-Wallace trade. I think people have scapegoated Maggette far more than he deserves — Nellie, Jack and Monta have all hurt us more than Maggette, as I see it, and Crawford’s not far behind - but his is not a contract that makes sense for a young, messy team like this one. Neither is Jack’s or Crawford’s, of course, but we’re not going to trade Jack and we can’t trade Crawford for a bit. (God, our roster is 80% “young bad-but-intriguing-and-cheap team” and 20% ’05’06 Knicks. Those three contracts totally poison what would otherwise be a very fun well.)
The most important thing we can do roster-wise is to add a couple decent individual defenders. Wallace certainly qualifies as that… Howard is less consistent than Wallace, but is at times a very good defender, and certainly better than Maggette. If we could get either guy, it’d be fantastic. I don’t think we can.
by onlxn on Dec 15, 2008 12:58 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Rasheed Wallace on the block
Would some kind of swap with Maggette and Wallace be possible? I can’t remember if the Pistons are trying to gear up for Lebron or not, which would make this moot based on Maggette’s contract.
My main point is that if Maggette is traded, it HAS to be for a big. This team cannot continue to play with a rotation of wing players who don’t play defense, especially when Monte is back.
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Don't see why Dallas makes this trade.
We should dump Maggs for cap space and picks. Their were at least 10 teams with interest in Corey this past summer. Once we get closer to the trade dead line, one of those teams might be willing to pull a deal for a great 6th (maybe 7th man on a playoff team) to put them over the hump.
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by VonteegoCummings on Dec 15, 2008 9:42 AM PST reply actions
maybe this works
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Dec 15, 2008 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
hopefully cj watson sees this....
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Dec 15, 2008 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
I knew there was a reason for signing Maggette
and if I was brass I would have done it too. Maggette can put up points and he is young, so we locked him up in hopes of trading him for someone else. If we didn’t sign him, we wouldn’t even be talking about trades for Howard, Wallace, or any other high-caliber players. But I don’t understand why we gave him 5 years, was it to make him think we wanted him? I’m pretty sure he was made to play at the 4 to pad his stats, too.
MAGS IS YOUNG???
He was born Nov 12th, 1979… making him 29. Did you know that Baron was born April 13th, 1979. That makes Maggette a whooping 7 months younger than Baron. Furthermore, he’s had just as much of an injury riddled career as Baron. Mags has never played all 82 games in a season and his highest games played of 77 came in his rookie year. The guy just isn’t a fast healer like Monta. If you get him banged up he’s going to stay hurt for a while. Overall I think this just highlights the mistake of thinking you got something younger by getting Maggette let alone compounding the problem by give him a 5 year deal that takes him into his mid-30s.
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Young as he is still on the upside of his career
better than him being 30 or 31. We needed Maggette to sign with us as a trade piece – resulting in a 5-year deal. Without him, we wouldn’t even be reading all these fantasy trades. Look at Minnesota and other teams with immense cap space, who cannot even go after big players because they can’t part with anything attractive.
what about mags to dallas
howard to atlanta
marvin williams +throw ins 4 contract (acie law, speedie claxton whoever) to GSW
i think if dallas wants mags (biggest iff) trade works…. atlanta gets an improved 3 for a playofff run….. bibby, johnson, howard, smith, horford (A little thin in frontcourt) but surely better
Maggette to OKC Thunder
I just did this trade in ESPN trade machine and it works.
Oklahoma City Thunder
Incoming Players
Marcus Williams
Salary: $1,262,520 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 0.7 REB: 0.3 AST: 2.0 PER: 1.07
Corey Maggette
Salary: $8,275,862 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 19.1 REB: 5.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.68
Outgoing Players: Desmond Mason, Nick Collison
Golden State Warriors
Incoming Players
Desmond Mason
Salary: $5,300,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 7.9 REB: 3.6 AST: 0.8 PER: 6.80
Nick Collison
Salary: $6,350,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 6.8 REB: 6.1 AST: 1.0 PER: 13.15
***Draft picks possibly? Can’t put those in trade machine
Outgoing Players: Marcus Williams, Corey Maggette
Why would we do this?
Mason’s contract expires after this year and Collison’s is much much much more reasonable. We get rid of Marcus Williams who unfortunately will never get a meaningful role on the warriors and has been heard asking for playing time or a trade. I would also like a draft pick or two, which would definitely be a high one seeing as the Thunder suck.
Maybe a first next year if its top 5 or a first and a second if its higher.
Collison: $6,250,000 $6,250,000 $6,750,000
Why would OKC do this?
They currently have no real vetarans. Their roster is stacked with youth and for the most part unproven players. Maggette will bring the consistency they need at a reasonable price seeing as how they are way below the cap and will doubtfully be serious players in 2010 free agency. Maggette’s contract will expire when their youth starts to gain experience and start to need to be resigned etc.
Um... the Thunder aren't trading Mason.
They just moved to OKC. Mason is a hero for Oklahoma City from back in his OSU days. They brought him in to help get people even more fired up about the new team. Furthermore, Collision also has mid-west ties and is one of their only reliable players in the post. They also have Durant and Green that play the same positions as Maggette and they have a pg in Westbrook so throwing in Williams won’t be that enticing.
Sidenote: I hope OKC breaks the 72-73 Philadelphia 76ers record for worst record of all-time of 9-73. ESPN has posted this article Worst NBA Teams Ever , which currently projects them to finish 7-75.
RIP Supersonics.
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and why would the Thunder want Maggette? Their 3 best young players (Green, Durant, and Westbrook) all log some minutes at the 2 or 3 and with their eye on Griffin in the draft it means Durant and Green are likely going to be playing the 2 and 3 almost exclusively. So why would they want an overpaid vet who is signed long term? If you offered me the chance to swap the Warriors roster with the Thunder right now I might take it simply because they dont have any Maggette/Jackson typeoverpaid vet obligations.
Maggette to Memphis trade
I also just did this in espn trade machine and it works.
Golden State Warriors
Incoming Players
Antoine Walker
Salary: $9,052,460 Years Remaining: 3
Darrell Arthur
Salary: $977,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 0.6 PER: 11.32
Outgoing Players: Marcus Williams, Corey Maggette
Memphis Grizzlies
Incoming Players
Marcus Williams
Salary: $1,262,520 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 0.7 REB: 0.3 AST: 2.0 PER: 1.07
Corey Maggette
Salary: $8,275,862 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 19.1 REB: 5.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.68
Outgoing Players: Antoine Walker, Darrell Arthur
Why would we do this?
The only big benefit we would get is Darrell Arthur who would is a nice stronger big man. Although there could be conflicts for playing time with Arthur, Randolph, Wright, Turiaf, and Andris, it might help if we moved Randolph down to SF. What i like about this trade is that there is a team option for Antoine Walker in the summer of 2010, so we could potentially decline him and get some nice cap space. Also we get rid of Marcus williams, refer to previous post.
Why would Memphis do this?
Just like OKC they have no real veterans. Maggette could be that reliable scorer they need for when their rookies start to make a lot of dumb mistakes.
*Not sure if we could get any draft picks out of this, might be able to get one of their 3 million first rounders. Maybe their pick (via the lakers) from the Pau Gasol trade.
I just threw up in my mouth...
Walker for 3 years!
Another trade idea
We’ve already dealt with the Nets once this season, but I’d suggest the following:
Maggette – 5 yrs (50 million owed)
Belinellie – 2 yrs (3 million owed)
for
Simmons – 2 yrs (21 million owed)
S. Williams – 2 yrs (3 million owed)
Not sure if the Nets would want both Carter and Maggette anchoring down there roster, but it would give them options beyond D. Harris on offense. They’re not tied to Simmons and are actively shopping Williams.
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don't see it happening...
They want just as big of a chance in 2010 as NY… So a five year deal at 50 mil is not going to be in their game plan.
by shooter1525 on Dec 15, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think a maggette for howard trade would be awesome!! It would free up the power forward spot for somebody who actually plays power forward. We can do a maggette/williams or something like that for howard. That would free up a roster spot for monta ellis. A starting line up of:
Ellis/Watson
Howard/Morrow/Belinelli
Jack/Azubukie
Wright/Randolph
Beans/Turiaf
that would be nice!
what about maggette and williams for troy murphy?
we send maggette and williams to the kings
the kings send brad miller to the pacers
the pacers send troy murphy to us.
it works on the trade machine, but thats not really saying much.
Money Money Money
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2411279720062801497&teams=96116&te=&cash=
A trade that can actually happen
Can i get your number
here's one
• Sources say guards Larry Hughes and Thabo Sefolosha and forward Tyrus Thomas are the Bulls who are very much available. But the Bulls aren’t ready to part with second-year center Joakim Noah, one insider insists, even though Noah appears to have frustrated first-year Bulls coach Vinny Del Negro as much as Thomas has.
I like Tyrus Thomas. Let’s go trade Maggs for him.
Sources say Charlotte remains highly confident that it can follow up the Richardson deal by finding a taker for versatile swingman Gerald Wallace, despite the prospect of three seasons at $9.5 million each left on Wallace’s contract beyond this season. It’s believed that teams interested in trying to pry Raymond Felton away from the Bobcats instead of Wallace — Portland has been mentioned — have to be willing to take back mothballed center Nazr Mohammed (owed a combined $13.4 million in 2009-10 and 2010-11) thanks to Felton’s improvement since being moved to shooting guard alongside rookie point guard D.J. Augustin. One source close to the situation said new Bobcats coach Larry Brown already had been grinding on vets such as Richardson and Wallace, which has apparently exacerbated Brown’s famed penchant for wanting to make changes.
Gerald Wallace please
I also like the Idea of Josh Howard to us for Maggs, Williams, and Jack
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
its on the tip of everyone's tongue so I'll be the one to say it
Corey Maggette=the new Mike Dunleavy
Corey Maggette=the new Mike Dunleavy
No Marco has that sewn up. “promising” but flawed player that never gets good enough to be worth the effort of keeping him.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 16, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Brandon Bass?
Just because you see him on TNT or ESPN once every 3 months getting a few good dunks, does not make him a good player.
There is a reason why he doesnt get more minutes. Take for instance last night when he went 0 – 5 with 2 fouls, and a bunch of horrible defense against bigger players.
Just what the Warriors need another undersized Power Forward who cant shoot. We already have the best version of Bass in Ronny Turiaf. Atleast he is top 5 in blocks, Brandon Bass in 3 more minutes per game averages 0.4!
Again people you need to stop drinking the coolade and take this season for what it is, a youth movement!
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